Done a brief search on here and cannot find the answer to my question.
I have a standard car charger which I used with my my XDA Orbit (Artemis) - i'm presuming I can use this with the Touch HD? Just that I read that the connector is slightly different on the THD....
I'm also quite tempted to get one of these CC-C100 models with the HTC logo at the top (i'm not vein, honest ). Would these would work too?
May sound like a stupid question with an obvious answer, as I know they all have the generic mini-USB connector, but just wanted clarification.
Thanks
I was wondering the same.
I picked up somewhere that the normally unused B pin of the 5 pin mini USB needs to be connected to ground to enable 2Amp charging. Othewise it may max out at 500mA. So many of the chargers sold as HTC compatible will work but will not charge full rate.
The nice one with the HTC logo do have a ExtUSB connector and are rated for 2000mA so should work full charge. I am waiting for my eBay order to come in to validate.
Any miniusb car charger should work. I bought a satnav car charger and it works fine.
see also http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=455097&highlight=car+charger&page=2
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In my desperation to find a car mount that connects straight into the cigarette lighter so that I don't have to screw/stick one on to the dash, I have been thinking about getting one that's meant for another kind of PDA that hopefully has the same connector as the TyTN.
On Gomadic's site on this page: http://www.gomadic.com/car-auto-mounts-cat.html
they list the HTC: Blue Angel, Falcon, Harrier, Himalaya, Wallaby, Prophet, Apache, Magician, Prodigy, Wizard & Galaxy.
Is anyone sure about whether any of those have the same USB connection as the TyTN? The company makes fantastic mounts which is why I want to get another one from them to replace the one I used for my XDA II.
the power adaptor from the Wizard will work with the TyTN.
Thanks!
I checked this out using pictures from the net and saw it was the same! So I've ordered a suitable holder from Gomadic.
Standard mini-usb, but with an optional extension for their pain in the a$$ audio output/headset. But any mini-usb is fine for power.
V
vijay555 said:
Standard mini-usb, but with an optional extension for their pain in the a$$ audio output/headset. But any mini-usb is fine for power.
V
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Actually, not completely true!
While any mini-USB cable should be fine for ActiveSync/desktop charging, not all DC mini-USB chargers are alike! There is definitely a specific voltage/wiring configuration requirement required for DC charging the TyTN.
Make sure you pick a charger that is compatible with the Wizard or the Universal, and you'll be fine... Others may or may not work!
The mini-usb for charging has extra pins connected to start charging.
Simplest method is to buy a charger that has a normal USB output (anything from 300mA up will do) best to buy a travel one that has interchangable UK/Europe/US mains heads and a 12/24V cigarette lighter adapter.
Chop the cable off your TyTn mains charger close to the power head and fit a standard USB connector to the cable.
Voila! you have a mains/mobile charger that DEFINITLY works mobile...
Does anybody know what the power output specification for car charging is for the Tilt? The wall charger puts out 5v and 1mA, but I haven't figured out what car charger is necessary. Internet sites all list different outputs including the 5v and 550mA which is the same for the Razr.
I don't want to use one that will damage the phone. Will the 550mA work but just not as fast, or can it damage the phone?
I have been trying to read other posts on this subject, but none are conclusive.
I just bought a car mount but it came with the 550mA charger and they are giving me a hard time about it.
I also notice that the usb port which charges the phone only puts out a maximum of 500mA. I just don't know much about electrical stuff and I am hoping to get some insight from you all.
All I know is that I am using Moto chargers for my phone and they're working.
I use Moto chargers and they work fine, just not as fast.
Thanks guys.
Is there any way to see if the unit is being fast or slow charged? It seems that the HTC charger uses an extra pin on the charger to enable fast charging and that MAY be why some aftermarket chargers (wall and car) do not seem to keep up with the battery discharge when running even if their plugged into a charger with sufficiant current capability. The HTC Wall caheger is rated as a 1 Amp charger. I have other chargers that use an external USB cable to connect, both rated as 1.5Amp (1500mA) chargers but seem to charge very slow. Soooooo I'm looking for the difference between the HTC charger and the aftemarket ones to see if I can make the ones I have work properly.
Thanks for any help
joe
<edit> in Looking at the Mini USB spec I find 5 pins labeled 1-2-3-x-4 with 1being VCC (5v), 2 & 3 being Data + & - and 4 being Gnd. Does the Advantage use the X pin to enable fast charging? How? Does it provide a second 5v line to cause/enable the Advantage to fastcharge? I think I need to look at the wall charger mini USB pinouts.
After talking to Pocket PC Techs and looking around online, it looks like the x-pin (next to pin 4(gnd)) is shorted to pin 4 to provide the advantage with a sense line to tell it to fast charge. The also shuts off the data lines in the unit AFAICT. Still don't know what the current capability of "Fast Charge" is or how to ask the unit to query the port for status. USB ports are generaly limited to 500ma and the stock charger is 1000ma (1A) so it seems that to ensure the MAX charge, the cable connected needs to have the x pin and pin 4 shorted. This is usefull if you are NOT wanting to do a data transfer (car GPS, stand alone charging, etc).
Here is a link to the connector http://pinouts.ru/PDA/pda_miniusb_pinout.shtml
Anyone can add to this?
Joe
I just received the Lil Sync DUO Mini-5 Adapter from PPC tech and it works perfectly. I'm now getting a fast charge from my PC (no sync) and I'm able to charge my S705 bluetooth headset.
Interesting news on the pinouts. I've never heard of any utility that shows fast vs. slow charge.
I wonder if anyone has a utility that can sense a gnd on the x pin (next to gnd) of the input connector. Does anyone have a schematic of the advantage side of the input power/data connector. It would me that there might be a pullup on that line sothe unit see's it as a high untill pulled low by a ground applied tothe x pin.
here you have "hot to do it"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396053
ppa25 said:
I just received the Lil Sync DUO Mini-5 Adapter from PPC tech and it works perfectly. I'm now getting a fast charge from my PC (no sync) and I'm able to charge my S705 bluetooth headset.
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Please tell me i need "PPC Techs HTC Advantage Lil Sync Extended Cable + mini 5 DUO" ( http://www.expansys.com.gr/p.aspx?i=145972) or ONLY "PPC Techs HTC Advantage Lil Sync DUO Mini-5 USB Adapter" (http://www.expansys.com.gr/p.aspx?i=145975) ?
I'm going to look stupid here, but ...
Received HD today in USA and wanted to charge it. But I do not know HOW ???!!!!
I plugged USB cord into HD itself, and other end - into AC Adapter.
Now AC Adapter looks strange to me ... the pins are INSIDE of adapter, so I cannot plug it into the wall electric outlet !
I do not have any plug to put it into AC Adapter! It suppose to come with one ?
What do I do now ?
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I'm going to look stupid here, but ...
Received HD today in USA and wanted to charge it. But I do not know HOW ???!!!!
I plugged USB cord into HD itself, and other end - into AC Adapter.
Now AC Adapter looks strange to me ... the pins are INSIDE of adapter, so I cannot plug it into the wall electric outlet !
I do not have any plug to put it into AC Adapter! It suppose to come with one ?
What do I do now ?
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Did you plug the power-pin adapter into the AC adapter? You have to put the wall-adapter onto the AC charger itself, then connect the usb cord to the ac adapter, then plug in the phone...
Petrov.
I just received mine today too. The piece that goes into the wall plugs into to piece that you plug the USB cable into. Now the plug that comes with the HD is for the UK or maybe Europe in general I am not sure. Mine came with an adapter that plugs into the two round pins that come standard with the HD. I hope that is clear. In other words if you did not get an adapter that looks like a regular two bladed electrical plug then you will have to get one or you will have to plug it into your computer for now.
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Did you plug the power-pin adapter into the AC adapter? You have to put the wall-adapter onto the AC charger itself, then connect the usb cord to the ac adapter, then plug in the phone...
Petrov.
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That power-pin adapter which I suppose to plug into the wall AND into AC adapter ... it suppose to come with the package ?
Where can I buy USA plug that I can insert into wall outlet (one end) and other end goes to HTC HD AC Adapter ?
bogdatov said:
That power-pin adapter which I suppose to plug into the wall AND into AC adapter ... it suppose to come with the package ?
Where can I buy USA plug that I can insert into wall outlet (one end) and other end goes to HTC HD AC Adapter ?
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go to bestbuy or circuit city or radio shack and purchase a wall charger for the motorola razr. that will work, too.
Just use the USB to charge off a PC
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Just use the USB to charge off a PC
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early on, some owners noted that the HD wouldn't charge that way, even though the display said it was charging.
Don't recall if we ever got to the bottom of if it was via direct USB socket on the PC, or via a USB hub - but basically the phone wasn't getting the full (5.5v?) voltage from the PC.
To charge the HD from the mains, you need 3 pieces of kit, which should all have come in the box.
1) the USB lead
2) a small box sized unit, about 5cm by 3cm by 3cm. It has a USB socket on one end, and the other end has 2 prongs inside a cut out section.
3) the plug bit. This should look like a regular plug, but on the back (the other side to the prongs), you have just a small box, with 2 holes in it. These holes align with the 2 prongs on item 2 above.
Slide 3 into 2, and 1 into 2 too
Depending on where the HD was sourced from, them item 3 may have 3 prongs (if its UK spec) - which obviously won't fit into a US socket.
The writing on item 2 seems to indicate that it will take an inout voltage of 100 - 240V - 0.2A 50-60Hz.
No idea if this means it will work with US mains voltage, sorry.
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early on, some owners noted that the HD wouldn't charge that way, even though the display said it was charging.
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Mine does, I've never charged it off the mains
Having said that, a lot of motherboards don't allow charging off them, for whatever reason. Maybe they shut down power if there's no data connection after a while, or don't provide enough current etc etc.
could be
Mine seems to charge ok off the (powered) USB hub - but some owners have reported that theirs didn't
I'm just paranoid about batteries (probably overly so!), and like to make sure that the very first charge is a blinking good one
Thats not an issue with lithium ion or lithium polymer batteries, they dont have a memory effect, the first change is not important.
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early on, some owners noted that the HD wouldn't charge that way, even though the display said it was charging.
Don't recall if we ever got to the bottom of if it was via direct USB socket on the PC, or via a USB hub - but basically the phone wasn't getting the full (5.5v?) voltage from the PC.
To charge the HD from the mains, you need 3 pieces of kit, which should all have come in the box.
1) the USB lead
2) a small box sized unit, about 5cm by 3cm by 3cm. It has a USB socket on one end, and the other end has 2 prongs inside a cut out section.
3) the plug bit. This should look like a regular plug, but on the back (the other side to the prongs), you have just a small box, with 2 holes in it. These holes align with the 2 prongs on item 2 above.
Slide 3 into 2, and 1 into 2 too
Depending on where the HD was sourced from, them item 3 may have 3 prongs (if its UK spec) - which obviously won't fit into a US socket.
The writing on item 2 seems to indicate that it will take an inout voltage of 100 - 240V - 0.2A 50-60Hz.
No idea if this means it will work with US mains voltage, sorry.
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It seems that I'm missing piece# 3 - the plug. Is this some specific plug for HTC HD, or generic ?
If it is special for HTC HD - where can I find it ?
I recommend purchasing the TC P300 International Travel Charger Kit. It's available on Expansys or HTC's accessory store. It's the highest quality kit available and the TC P300 is the actual charge provided with the Touch HD. You only get the EU or UK plug. I could not find a kit of just plugs. A cheaper alternative is the HTC TC P200 International Travel Charger. Also, available from HTC accessory store or Expansys.
This is driving me nuts. Go to an electronics store Best Buy, Future Shop, Circuit City, and take your charger with you, they will hook you up. You might even be able to get a universal charger, I think the ones for Iphones have a USB attachment on them.
I have plenty of USB chargers, so I don't mind UK plug. You may buy a new 1000mAh USB charger here: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.25 just for $5.25 or just adapter for $3.46 http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.17840
I have previously made up very short charging leads to use with earlier PDAs and my Arkon car mount. Having just got the Touch HD I was dismayed to see the "non-standard" USB connector. I cannot find a supplier of plugs to fit these anywhere. There are plenty of cheap car chargers around claiming to fit Touch HD, but I wonder if they do? Do they expect me to use the cable that came with the HD? I don't want to hack that one around. So any ideas? Can I buy a cheap sync cable and modify that? Can I get the plugs I need?
I thought the same thing but it turns out the normal usb plugs fit the HD.
You can just use a normal mini-usb male connector, it fits the same way as in a normal female usb-connector, at least for charging and mounting the phone as harddisk on a pc it works. i think even acticesync should work, 'cause its a normal usb-connection it uses.
greetings
Seth
Well, even activsync will work, at least it work on my HD, you can even flash your HD trough normal USB cable. Check - http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlackstoneFAQ.
Jakkuz
Wonderful! Many thanks everyone. I already have a car and mains charger with normal mini-usb connectors. Problem solved
I wonder why they made the connector like that?
pastyman said:
Wonderful! Many thanks everyone. I already have a car and mains charger with normal mini-usb connectors. Problem solved
I wonder why they made the connector like that?
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I suspect they were considering some proprietary nonsense at some point