I have been searching for answers about these two settings in network setup but have not found any explanation or benchmarks showing the positive or negative effects on throughput.. has anyone done their own tests?
Black6spdZ said:
I have been searching for answers about these two settings in network setup but have not found any explanation or benchmarks showing the positive or negative effects on throughput.. has anyone done their own tests?
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Would be interested to know to.
Theoretically this has to boost performance, since cellular bandwidth is relatively limited, so compression should be able to put more data through the pipe.
However, cellular networks also have high packet loss, and also have limited CPU power to do the compression, so I'm actually thinking if this has an adverse/negative effect in real-world performance?!
IP Header Compress
I remember a while ago, that on the AT&T settings they used to have the IP header compression box checked. I never noticed any difference having it checked or not, but then I realized that AT&T don't compress anymore.
So, I guess the feature was useful more on the EDGE network and when they started with 3G was better not to use it (just a thought). If anyone has more useful information about this will be good to know what difference does it make.
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HI,
Ok, on my way back from Blockbuster I was taxing the ole cognitive faculties and, being the cheap b*stard I am, thought of a possible way of gaining free internet access on the move. Here is my idea.
Using a Orange UK Pay as You Go sim in a GSM data card hooked up to my main PC at home with full access to High Speed internet. I set up a RAS server, add this number to my Magic Numbers and dial in for remote access and iNet connection. Of course if this is possible compression could be used before IP packets are routed to the mobile device improving, what I assume to be, a lousy bandwidth.
Further questions related to this:
What is the available bandwidth of a GSM data call?
Do Orange allow data calls on non-contract numbers, and are Orange able to detect that a line is being used for data rather than voice? And, if yes to the latter, can a data call masquerade as a voice?
Are there any good compression clients for Windows Mobile?
Being stuck with GPRS/EDGE on my VOX the data plans are diabolical, now I have a eee pc I'm kinda getting these two devices to dance together as best they can for the ultimate mobile experience, and if this theory is plausible and with performance comparable to GPRS, then I think im on to something worth while for my self and others.
Any response is appreciated
not sure if it's possible
but data gsm is only 9600
Unfortunately I don't have any concrete answers for you, but I'm thinking about picking up an EEE PC as well, and this is an absolutely FANTASTIC idea. I'm extremely interested in how this project fares for you. When it comes to phone networks, I'm still a noob, but I've been administering a satellite network for a few years, and based on the networking experience i've gotten in that short time, what you propose seems entirely possible. The biggest issue that I think you're going to run into is getting the compression to work properly. I'm worried that it will impede the processing performance of the phone. I think you may have better luck finding a packetshaper for the EEE rather than your WM device.
On a side note, what distro of Linux do those run? i've been looking around, and havn't been able to find out if it's Ubuntu, RedHat, anything. Everything I find just says 'Linux'. Also, have you been able to easily pair your phone to the EEE? I'm running Ubuntu Feisty Fawn on my desktop and I can't get anything out of the USB connection. (I know this is off-topic of your original post, and i apologize, but please PM me if you, or anyone else, have any suggestions. [i've searched forums for some suggestions, havn't worked out] Thanks.)
Good Luck!
Ok thanks all for the response, im going to post info etc. as and when I find it.
Here is general GSM info that confirms and elaberates on Rudegar's post
http://www.tml.tkk.fi/Studies/Tik-110.300/1998/Newtech/fast_gsm_2.html
in brief, using compression 'up to 36000 bps' can be acheived, which is sufficient for Image free web-surfing courtesy of Opera and telnet. Moreover, the article referenced is fairly old and I imagine DUN compression algorythms have come on leaps and bounds, especially since the broadband revolution. I think you're right in suggesting that decompression may tax my Vox, I will use the VOX as modem either over USB or BT. Next I will research compression, keep you all posted.
As for the EEE, well I am totally in love with mine. The stock Eee comes with Xandros a flavour of Linux that I found to be quite bitter. I am currently using XPTablet Edition. I have tried Ubuntu, gOS, eeexubuntu and couldn't deal with the inability to upscale the resolution so I went Windows. Now I can scale 900x600 without any glitches. I have modified my 4g with a touchscreen, 2 gigs of RAM in the post, all I need now is a way of fitting an Xscale PPC sisterboard and the HTC Shift can suck my.......
My only advice is DON'T GET a eee pc 2G, as you will only regret it.... I did!
Oh... I think you'd have to recompile your kernel to get some kind of activesync replacment. I've seen the answer somewhere on my travels--probably www.Eeeuser.com or www.ubuntu.com--If i find it again ill let you know.
Whilst browsing for a cheap GSM modem I came across the Three Pay 3G modem reduced to £69 from Ebuyer. Of course I bought one on the spot--perhaps I'm not such a cheap b*stard after all. For this reason this little project is now less of a necessity. I will be using a VPN of some kind but I doubt that it will be of much relevance to this post. If I do stumble on anything of interest I will post. As the modem has 2G capabilities I will test a few dialin setups.
hi,
i have a freaking slow wireless speed with my blackstone on my home router (only device i can test with).
with dslreports.com/mspeed test i get just 100 kb/s max. that might not be too convincing cause i'm located in germany.
but also the perceived rate is much lower than even 3G, not to talk about H...
what can i do to discover where the problem is?
i have a dlink di-524 with wpa2 aes enabled, wireless mode is G only.
i use a laptop with it get best rates.
thx for your support!
ps: i read the thread(s) about the reg key to fasten up wireless, but that did not change anything
try this works great
let me know what you get after test
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=472652
read my ps, already tried, no difference
oh man...this is so stupid!
just hangled my way through setup and set energy level to speed
never thought of this...
ps: but its really stupid on high speed setting i get ~1800 kb/s, on mid and low there is no difference at all!
All recent MSM devices have this issue... They're set to "Best Battery" by default. Setting it to medium makes almost no difference and setting it to "Best Performance" suddenly stuff starts working awesomely.
It's a power saving issue, but according to my tests it doesn't actually save much power either. Perhaps 5% or so, totally not worth it for the crappy performance you get when it isn't set to "Best Performance".
Hi Guys,
I've been having some problems with a very short battery life over the past few weeks. I've disabled HSDPA/HSUPA and am experiencing slightly better performance. While fiddling around with the settings, I noticed the above options, CSD Line type etc...and was wondering what they were all about and if the optimum settings are already set up on the HD2? I'm on an unlimited data plan with T-Mobile UK and I'm assuming that the phone has been set up a specific way by the network and wouldn't want to change anything that might negatively effect what is, so far, an excellent phone but I'm just curious.
It's nothing vital and I won't be fiddling with anything but I have done some research out of and it all seems to be related to data communication/speed. Could any of you guys shed some more light on this as a lot of the stuff I'm reading is a little over my head!! I would be interested to know if there was anything in those settings that I might be unaware of that could make my phone supersonic, hahaha.... Any info on these settings would be appreciated.
Thanks
Shameless bump.
Looking at the currently very good coverage (in Prague, EU) of a private wifi internet, one has to wonder whether small internet users (like me), could create a (global?) community for securely sharing slow free wifi internet, that would be just enough to be used for messaging and voip. i.e. people could share their home connection with others in their vicinity with speed and security restrictions.
@ Why? @
* sending messages and calling from anywhere for free (not mentioning the price for your internet you share)
* encouraging free community and freedom of speech nature of internet
@ Technology of sharing should... @
* be restricted to slow speeds ( so that small providers would have no troble with their home private int. usages )
* protect personal information of small providers (so that no-one could do some harm to their personal data and so on.)
* be based on current hardware ( be easy to install on current networks )
@@@ What do you think people? @@@
@@@ Is such thing possible? @@@
*firmware updates* for the *most often types of routes* ?
here is one suggestion
- it seems to me that current routers are kind of too stupid for such complex service and people wont like to change things that work. But maybe it could be possible to make some open source *firmware updates* for the *most often types of routes*. It should be then easy to install since all settings could be embedded inside the routes.
mrWax said:
Looking at the currently very good coverage (in Prague, EU) of a private wifi internet, one has to wonder whether small internet users (like me), could create a (global?) community for securely sharing slow free wifi internet, that would be just enough to be used for messaging and voip.
@ Why? @
* sending messages and calling from anywhere for free (not mentioning the price for your internet you share)
* encouraging free community and freedom of speech nature of internet
@ Technology of sharing should... @
* be restricted to slow speeds ( so that small providers would have no troble with their home private int. usages )
* protect personal information of small providers (so that no-one could do some harm to their personal data and so on.)
* be based on current hardware ( be easy to install on current networks )
@@@ What do you think people? @@@
@@@ Is such thing possible? @@@
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Not practically:
1. Very high latency
2. The only way to deliver a connection to those who have none would be thousands, even millions of repeaters. Once you hit the ocean/sea, that's a bit of a problem. So if powering and programming all of them.
3. Your provider will most likely notice one way or another.
There are tons of things that make this highly expensive and near-impossible. For example, even if you were to buy millions of wifi-repeaters and install them in every inch of the globe, if one went out, anything "before" that one would also go out.
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Product F(RED) said:
Not practically:
1. Very high latency
2. The only way to deliver a connection to those who have none would be thousands, even millions of repeaters. Once you hit the ocean/sea, that's a bit of a problem. So if powering and programming all of them.
3. Your provider will most likely notice one way or another.
There are tons of things that make this highly expensive and near-impossible. For example, even if you were to buy millions of wifi-repeaters and install them in every inch of the globe, if one went out, anything "before" that one would also go out.
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I believe you misunderstud me. I ment that people could share their home connection with others in their vicinity. with noted security and speed restrictions. I will rethink the post if it is counter-intuitive.
mrWax said:
I believe you misunderstud me. I ment that people could share their home connection with others in their vicinity. with noted security and speed restrictions. I will rethink the post if it is counter-intuitive.
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Ive thought about it too. Since governments are restricting the internet it would be nice to have a low power wireless network that would be open secure and free. Perhaps an app that could repurpose old cellphones/routers into an overlapping wifi net.Anyway to use unused radio frequencies to strengthen/ repeat the signal? Mainly used for communication during emergencies.
Hello. First, great forum- I can feel the love, as well as the collective genius at work here. It's refreshing to find a forum where people actually know their sh*t on a real, technologically advanced level. It's relieving as well, considering the headache that my new G2 is causing... as follows:
This is a Sprint device and I am still within the time frame to return if a resolution is not found.
Issue:
1.) While wi-fi remains connected (doesn't drop), it is terribly slow, averaging .8 - 3 mbps. Whereas, other Samsung android devices are averaging 15-20 mbps. Internet is cable, and I have reset the modem without experiencing any performance increase. (technicolor TC8305C, bgn)
2.) 4g is no better, averaging a mind boggling .5 mbps. (Don't even get me started on 3g- .1-.3 mbps)
3.) If 4g is even able to connect, which is rare... it disappears and and is nowhere to be found, or be (re) enabled.
Attempted (unsuccessful resolutions):
1.) Performed Sprint recommended troubleshooting techniques:
a.) updated profile
b.) soft reset(s)
c.) hard resets- multiple
2.) contacted customer care: received "refreshers," and was walked through numerous settings and performed various resets.
Recommended CC resolution: return device for exchange.
3.) Sprint store attempted to identify problem, and in the process found that their demo, along with employee handsets (G2) as well as new unboxed versions had the same problem. They offered to switch to an S4 or Nexus5 for free, or wait a couple days to see if the LG rep could offer a fix.
(further) Resolution: pending
Here's the deal- I think we can all agree that this phone is kick ass. Therefore, I would rather not switch, as I enjoy the experience it provides, as well as the satisfaction of getting to really bond with a device when troubleshooting them. Though, this phone seems to be pretty 'buggy,' and while I don't mind tinkering with computing devices (been seeing the blue screen since win '95), I'm not sure I want to be dealing with the potential hassle with a device we all rely on day in and day out to be our life blood... plus, just because I don't see/haven't experienced the other issues others have, doesn't mean they won't potentially manifest down the road. :/ Maybe the Nexus 5 is the better choice... but it seems like cost cutting has taken place in a couple areas- battery (2300), and the camera. Almost like the G2 is the flagship and the other is mildly scaled down in certain aspects even though the end result is compelling for both.
Please know that I am scouring middle earth low and wide for resolutions, and have not composed this post without first looking and becoming familiar with other peoples similiar experiences. I will continue to fact find, and I apologize for not reading all related threads before posting, but time is of the nigh, as I am still within a time frame to return in case the problem is inherent to this specific device (a lemon). Plus, I don't quite understand everything you're talking about, as I've never had/chosen to dig that deep into the obscure settings and techniques I've seen listed (and also because I JUST got it) Hence, the user name- g2 n00b.
So thank you in advance for your time in helping with this. It is both greatly appreciated, and not without gratitude on my part. Also, I hope I displayed proper educate by formating this post in a manner which is easy to sort through. K. let the trouble shooting begin.
also, to the mods- sorry if this is thread/issue has already been covered elsewhere. I also posted this issue on another board and nobody had heard of this problem, so I am fairly confident that i may be justified in having poted this. However, feel free to delete/lock/merge/ if I just didn't see it.. but please provide the link so I can further fact find, because I'm stumped. Thanks.
I just did a speedtest on mine (Also on Sprint) using Wifi.
Same speeds I get on my PC.
It's an oddball suggestion but did you disable the Sprint connection optimizer?
Optimizer enabled. Though, I have tried disabling it and running diagnostics to no effect- doesn't matter what I do, it still won't exceed 3mbps, unless I am lucky enough to receive 4g in certain areas.. then it's a 'blazing' 3.5mbps, but usually .8. I have msl code and have adjusted band priorities and still no difference there, including ##72786 to reset default connections to make sure nothing was adversely affected after investigating the issue.
I'm really bummed. I love this phone. I feel like everything I felt I was missing in the S3/S4 are present here. Love the interface, form factor and all of the settings. Maybe I should take Sprint up on there offer to get an S4 a Nexus 5, but I REALLY don't want to go back to caveman battery hog status on the S4 and have to purchase a backup. I imagine the N5 is more efficient in this area, but it still has a 2300 battery vs 3000 in the G2. Needless to say, I'm frustrated and confused.. but often times, such is life.
Any thoughts on the N5, or suggestions to further trouble shoot are greatly appreciated and welcome?
I have disable the connection optimizer and have done this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47423537&postcount=1
The only other idea I have is hit up a coffee shop and due a speed test on their wifi.
The sprint stores by me have crappy wifi speed hence the coffee shop.
I seem to have mostly resolved the issue. I switched channels and encryption protocol. Apparently, my g2 didn't appreciate AES very much. Has anyone else seen performance differences with their device when comparing AES to TKIP? If so, are they drastic? I would think AES would be fine with the g2, considering how advanced it is. I consider it to be somewhat unfortunate if I am forced to select TKIP just so I can get a decent connection. That is, unless of course there are settings I can alter in the ##data# screen that can make better use of this encryption. Is there anything I can do now that I have narrowed down the culprit?
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I seem to have mostly resolved the issue. I switched channels and encryption protocol. Apparently, my g2 didn't appreciate AES very much. Has anyone else seen performance differences with their device when comparing AES to TKIP? If so, are they drastic? I would think AES would be fine with the g2, considering how advanced it is. I consider it to be somewhat unfortunate if I am forced to select TKIP just so I can get a decent connection. That is, unless of course there are settings I can alter in the ##data# screen that can make better use of this encryption. Is there anything I can do now that I have narrowed down the culprit?
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What wireless router are you using? I use a D-Link at home and my G2 kept connecting and disconnecting repeatedly. I was able to fix the problem by updating the router's firmware to the latest version. We've never had any problems with other wifi devices on our router, so it seems the G2 has some unique peculiarities WRT wifi.
I'm running AES with no issues, but noticed following.
LG (Sprint) connects first with a slow 72mbps and switches after a while to a faster speed of 433mbps
I have an Asus Router RT-AC66R, if I play around on the router with Frequencies or the wireless mode, LG would go down to a slow speed.
Don't have Optimizer enabled.
I suspect your problem is a router problem and not the phone.