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Stylus pencil is Loose and comes out easily

I use the k-jam alot. and after taking the pencil out and back in again it has got so loose now that it usually drops out. any one else hade same problem and how did you resolve it?

I had same problem with my BA. I'm not sure the wizard has same retention tab, but if it does, then this works.
-Back up your data.
-Remove the cover you will find a small tab in the stylus channel intended to engage the notch cut into the stylus. Gently push the tab back into the stylus channel so that it will engage the stylus notch once again. Be careful if you push it too far it will break.
-Slide the stylus into the channel to verify that the tab again engages the stylus notch.
-Remove the stylus again.
-Apply a small dab silicone sealant (available at any hardware store) behind the stylus retention tab. This is the "V" shaped area between the tab and the case. Be sure to fill this entire area. When the silicone has cured it will become a spring with much better position memory then the original plastic tab had on its own.
-Allow 24 hours for the silicone to cure before inserting the stylus into the channel.
I believe this is more then a repair, it is an upgrade.
Good Luck,
N2O2

Thanks for the tips.
I was just thinking of what to do when i came acroos some bluetac .
I put some blutac in the hole were the stylus goes and pushed the pen in. and it was a miracle !!! The stylus stayes in with a good hold and it comes out clean with no bluetac on it.
whe the bluetac trys to come out it has no room coz the stylus filles the space so it stays in the edges and grips the stulus pen and keeps it from getting loose. .
problem solved !!

Nice Catch
I put some blutac in the hole were the stylus goes and pushed the pen in.
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Gave the Bluetac method a whirl on my K-Jam after the stylus starting dropping out. Works a treat..
Nice one.

Nice Catch
I put some blutac in the hole were the stylus goes and pushed the pen in.
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Gave the Bluetac method a whirl on my K-Jam after the stylus starting dropping out. Works a treat..
Nice one.

Yes it does.
Easy and simple way of not opening or messing about with k-jam to void warranty.

I mean. you will not viod waranty this way, but will if you open the k-jam

one time around the stylus with some tape works great to.

But what happen if the blutac starts to ware off?

But what happen if the blutac starts to ware off?
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Then I'll pop the case :shock: , extract the bluetac and do the silicone mod.
I'd be surprised if it does wear off though. It's superb stuff that's saved me a few quid in the past when in rented accomodation - bluetac and tippex to create the illusion of undamaged walls :wink:

Can you please give me a hint what "bluetac" is or means ?

I have dismantled mine, and I can see why this is breaking - see my post regarding the sylus silo.
when the stylus is getting loose, when you are pushing it in do you "feel" it going further forward than it did before?
It is because the plastic tab is not strong enough to resist the pen, and you are now pushing it further forward than you did before.
This is what causes the stress on the plastic, and then the crack. This black plastic part is molded to the entire back of the phone.
I have fixed this by wedging some folded paper behind the black plastic clip, and it is back to normal. I was lucky - I had not stressed mine enough that the plastic had cracked.
I have taken some photos of how to get the back off, I will post them when I return from my business travel.
Jon

Can you please give me a hint what "bluetac" is or means ?
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Ignoring my [email protected] spelling (should be "Blutac"), it's this stuff: http://www.paperstone.co.uk/BrowseProductDisplay.aspx?ProductId=17307&CategoryId=579-580-594

I'd be interested in seeing the photos on how to dismantle.
It is because the plastic tab is not strong enough to resist the pen, and you are now pushing it further forward than you did before.
This is what causes the stress on the plastic, and then the crack. This black plastic part is molded to the entire back of the phone.
I have fixed this by wedging some folded paper behind the black plastic clip, and it is back to normal. I was lucky - I had not stressed mine enough that the plastic had cracked.
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I have now started collapsing the stylus before inserting it into the hole so it doesn't push against the end and only goes as far as the moulded plastic bit at the top.

just wrap a piece of tape around the stylus and it fits like a glove again.

leploep
This is only a temp fix, did that and after a week or two back to the stylus dropping out. I am waiting for the pics on how to get the back off and do a more permanent solution, you would think Imate would have caught this in their product testing phase before going to production.

sunseaker said:
I have now started collapsing the stylus before inserting it into the hole so it doesn't push against the end and only goes as far as the moulded plastic bit at the top.
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I've always done this as it does not seem to fully shink other wise... seems Ok so far.
marka2k said:
leploep
This is only a temp fix, did that and after a week or two back to the stylus dropping out. I am waiting for the pics on how to get the back off and do a more permanent solution, you would think Imate would have caught this in their product testing phase before going to production.
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Personally I think on the bottom of the phone is daft in the first place... or is this just me ?
Terran

the pics are in the upload folder, called wizardpics.zip - the ftp upload attachment does not seem to be working?
to remove the top half I used a flat knife. It is quite resistant. You can see where the tabs are in the pic.
To remove the back completely, you need to remove the void sticker, and under there is a screw. there is also one opposite.
You will also need to remove the 2 screws at the bottom, one in the stylus channel, and the other on the opposite side.
then use a plastic splitting tool if you have one, or a credit card to work round the case.
you can see in the pics where this comes off.
You then want to re-enforce behind the stylus notch. I used a piece of folded card.

chakra said:
one time around the stylus with some tape works great to.
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where exactly are you putting the tape which end

i did the blutac thing but might have put too much in cos the grey plastic end i use to pull stylus out just broke!

xda's stylus

hi,
this question might not even have anything to do development. i have been using my exec for a year now, and the problem is that the stylus has become quite loose and doesnt stay in the phone securly, have others had similar problems and if yes what's their solution?
thanks

Same problem, but no solution, im sorry
The inner plastik thingy which holds the stylus is somehow.. overused or rubbed off?
I dont think that there is a solution :/

I had the same problem with my old xda exec.
Stuck sellotape around stylus and that did the trick for me.
Simple but effective. Needed to replace sellotape once a month.

I had the same problem. First I have use scotch tape around the stylus which looks ugly therefore I start use few drops of Super glue and making little swell on the stylus

A little lump of blue tac pushed into the socket which holds the stylus in place when I put it in.

ukblokester said:
hi,
this question might not even have anything to do development. i have been using my exec for a year now, and the problem is that the stylus has become quite loose and doesnt stay in the phone securly, have others had similar problems and if yes what's their solution?
thanks
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Believe me when I say that the best alround solutution is to by a replacement stylus like this one http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/8393.htm
I lost my first stylus about six months ago because it was too loose, there is no way this one will fly out. It fits nice and snug.
Mav

mavrik64 said:
Believe me when I say that the best alround solutution is to by a replacement stylus like this one http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/8393.htm
I lost my first stylus about six months ago because it was too loose, there is no way this one will fly out. It fits nice and snug.
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I second this! These stylii fit very securely and are MUCH better than the originals that come with the device. I've had 2 because I accidentally dropped one right on the tip (dropped from my hand, it didn't slip out of the Universal) and both were snug.

bend stylus
i tried to paint my last stylus with nail enamel (color metalic gray), didn't work ...so i decided to bend it a little
it worked for me..
tricky question .. how much bend it ?
well.. i didn't clean enamel from stylus, (im lazy...) while i was trying to bend enamel crack ....that was my scale

The little clip which holds the stylus in on mine broke off completely. I opened the case up and glue the clip back in while padding it out with paper at the same time. Holds the stylus rock solid now, much better than it ever did before.

Help Stylus Stuck

I'm hoping someone might have a helpful suggestion other than "take it apart." I've been using a stylus / pen that I got off ebay. The ball point pen is hidden under a cap at the opposite end of where the stylus point is.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190199301645&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=009
It works great except that the cap came off while the stylus was inside my advantage --- and now, I can't get the stylus out. It's stuck, and there's no way to reach in and get it.
Any thoughts??
Thanks

I think you could put some glue (very little) inside the cap and then put it (the cap) into the HTC stylus hole. After a time take it out and then try to remove the glue (dissolving or smthg like that). Peter.

Thanks, I'll try that!

pkchainsaw said:
Thanks, I'll try that!
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Just be careful not to touch the sides while sliding the pen in, or it will get very messy in there and harsh when the glue dries and come time to put a new stylus in. Thanks for the heads up because I was going to purchase a pack of 3 in 1 pens. I won't now due to the fact that it can come apart.

tootallk2000 said:
Just be careful not to touch the sides while sliding the pen in, or it will get very messy in there and harsh when the glue dries and come time to put a new stylus in. Thanks for the heads up because I was going to purchase a pack of 3 in 1 pens. I won't now due to the fact that it can come apart.
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WOW!! IT WORKED!!!! THANKS!
Of course, do what you think is best, but I'm going to keep using it. I think the fault was mine, not the pen's.
THANKS AGAIN!

Does that stylus actually fit completley into your advantage? I have the exact same 3 pack sitting at home, ordered off ebay, and its just not capable of fitting into the slide on the advantage. Not to mention how shoddy the quality appeared to be with regards to how the 3 pieces stick together. I mean its obvious when you mix metal with plastic threads...things are gonna work loose very quickly. Anyway, I just ordered a 3 pack of 3in1 stylus from expansys that they are advertising as an exact fit, made specifically for the advantage, as well as a 3 pack of oem stylus just to make sure heh.

lanyard hole

hi,
is there a hole for fixing a lanyard?

hi, could a person who already has the Blackstone
just have a look if it is possible to insert a lanyard
on the bottom of the phone!
i couldn't see any on pictures!
thanks folks

http://vimeo.com/1938435?pg=embed&sec=1938435&hd=1
43 seconds in - looks like a lanyard loop to me on the right hand side of the shot (bottom left hand corner of phone)

JTHM said:
http://vimeo.com/1938435?pg=embed&sec=1938435&hd=1
43 seconds in - looks like a lanyard loop to me on the right hand side of the shot (bottom left hand corner of phone)
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Strange, on the video the hd indeed has a lanyard loop. My HD definitely doesn't have that loop.
Maybe because the video shows a pre release version of the phone?

fdevogel said:
Strange, on the video the hd indeed has a lanyard loop. My HD definitely doesn't have that loop.
Maybe because the video shows a pre release version of the phone?
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I had the same question about the absence or presence of a lanyard hole in the Touch HD.
In the link posted above, one can see clearly that, at 46 sec., there is a hole left of the USB port.
But fdevogel, who has the English version of the HD already in is hands and lives, just as I do, in The Netherlands states there isn't such a hole in his HD.
In the English user manual I downloaded this morning also no lanyard hole was mentioned/drawn (in contrast to the Diamond where a lanyard hole was mentioned and drawn).
I really hope it does however: I use an electric wheelchair and it is almost impossible for me to use a phone without such a hole. At the moment I own a Diamond (with lanyard) and that works perfectly!
So, people: if it's correct that there isn't a lanyard hole present in the HD, I have a question for you.
Is it still somehow possible to attach a lanyard to the Touch HD (preferably at the bottom)? It's imperative for me I can do so, as explained above...
I hope my fellow forummembers can come up with a positive answer or solution!
Thanks in advance.

I have the WWE version and it definatly doesn't have a lanyard hole.
I'm receiving a NL version on monday/thuesday and will see if that one has it, but I doubt that other then the firmware there will be any difference between the 2 devices.

Hi
The early prototypes often seen on Youtube videos do indeed show a lanyard hole at the bottom left of the device.
The actual shipping version definitely does not have a lanyard.
I think it is incredible that the silly designers decided to remove this, I guess because they felt it ruined the smooth look!!!
When a device is hand held and costs a small fortune, and requires balancing in your hand and being jabbed and stroked, the chances of it being dropped are extremely high, and so the option of a wrist strap should be present. Anyone that has some form of disability and finds it hard to grip something will also need a lanyard option to save themselves dropping it.
I can't trust myself not to drop this at some point, so always use a wrist strap, so will not buying this.
In another stupid design decision the notification LED is on the top, so you can't see it when you have it flat on your desk in front of you.
Regards
Phil

Nope
No lanyard loop on this device.

dennis333 said:
I had the same question about the absence or presence of a lanyard hole in the Touch HD.
So, people: if it's correct that there isn't a lanyard hole present in the HD, I have a question for you.
Is it still somehow possible to attach a lanyard to the Touch HD (preferably at the bottom)? It's imperative for me I can do so, as explained above...
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Well, firsts of all, my UK version (WWE) I received (also in the Netherlands) does not have a lanyard hole. I don't need it, so won't miss it. But hey, you got me curious if there is room for one. I removed the back cover, but don't see too many places for a firm and safe approach. Easiest bet could be to make a small cut in the backplate and feed the lanyard under the lower one of the penposts - the brackets holding the styles inside. It might make taking the stylus in and out a little harder if not impossible, but shat could work.
My guess is though at the bottom would be the safest bet. The bottom part is so firmly attached, it'd need to be removed first and then holes etc drilled into it. As I have no intention on doing so, my advice stops here I'm affraid.
It is a wonderful machine, this HD, I like it a loooot better than my previes x500+.

Work Around
I really missed the strap hole on the HD too.
So I bought a CrystalSlip cover from Boxwave and with a hot paper clip, melted two holes on the bottom left corner.
I wouldn't swing it around by it but the plastic seems to be pretty good and should hold. Anyway it's better than nothing.

notice it had the htc logo next to 'htc' on the front cover but our ones don't have that anymore.

I looked for a lanyard hole before as I want a way of securing my phone to my snowboarding jacket when I'm on the slopes. I have SnowRanger software which is a mobile GPS tracker which runs with Garmin. I don't want to drop and lose my phone when looking at it on the ski lift or something!!!
I did ask in the accessories forum about getting a case with a loop or cord, but no one came up with anything
Looks like I'll just have to be extra careful!!

I'm tempted to do this,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3082409&postcount=4

p3eps said:
I looked for a lanyard hole before as I want a way of securing my phone to my snowboarding jacket when I'm on the slopes. I have SnowRanger software which is a mobile GPS tracker which runs with Garmin. I don't want to drop and lose my phone when looking at it on the ski lift or something!!!
I did ask in the accessories forum about getting a case with a loop or cord, but no one came up with anything
Looks like I'll just have to be extra careful!!
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Your brave to take it snowboarding. I use my TouchPro for taking pics / vids when I am snowboarding. I am thinking about taking my HD next time out though.

gadgetuk437 said:
I'm tempted to do this,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3082409&postcount=4
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I'd quite like to see a pic of that!
Don't think I'm really up for drilling holes in my phone though!!

AllTheWay said:
Your brave to take it snowboarding. I use my TouchPro for taking pics / vids when I am snowboarding. I am thinking about taking my HD next time out though.
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I took my iPhone last year and no harm came to it! The phone pocket in my jacket is up beside my chest, so its unlikely to get hit if I fall. The main concern is dropping it!

i think it is the right time to ask our talented developers to start working at a lanyard hole cab preferably compatible with the netcf 2 and the missing video drivers. it could be included in one of the new cooked ROMs...who knows? i also suggest to wiki this problem of the HD.
anyway, nothing beats at safety a roomy jacket pocket closed with a solid zip or velcro.

KukurikU said:
anyway, nothing beats at safety a roomy jacket pocket closed with a solid zip or velcro.
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I have the nice zipped jacket pocket - but I'm scared of dropping it when I take it out to change playlist etc! A bungee cord attached to my jacket would be ideal - but theres nowhere on the HD to attach it!

2 minute lanyard tape hack - drop protection

Something I always liked about my Kaiser was having a lanyard attached to it. I did this after dropping it a couple of times due to it slipping out of my hand.
As the HD2 is even more slippery in my fingers and probably more likely to shatter or break on dropping, I was disappointed that there was no lanyard hole.
I contemplated drilling a hole in battery cover but didn't have a drill. So I've duct taped a lanyard onto the back, a la the attached pic.
First I lay the lanyard ring on the back and threaded duct tape through it, locking the lanyard ring to the phone. Then I layered a bit more duct tape on top to give it some strength.
It may look a bit messy and I could have done it neater. At the end of the day it will (hopefully) stop me dropping and breaking a £500 phone which I'm happy about. It's also surprisingly strong and will give an indication before it eventually gives way. Takes about 2 minutes.
Edit: Ugly duct tape method replaced by neater black tape version.
Edit2: Video howto added: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL3owsWT3E4
Disclaimer: If you try this and end up dropping your HD2 anyway, I accept no responsibility!

That could be the worst monstrosity to a HD2 Ive ever seen.

Haha, you may be right. But I don't have a mobile phone to look pretty, I have it to use it and rely on it to be working when I need it, not broken into 100 pieces on the floor.

Here's a neater black tape version. Not sure it will be as strong as the first though.

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Here's a neater black tape version. Not sure it will be as strong as the first though.
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looks sooo fragile , also u should try take it to a gravire-er if u dont have a drill and make a hole suitable

Job done no messing!
I can't understand why HC didnt add a lanyard bar and at the end of the day your solution will work and probably save your phone one day.
Nice graduated background on your photo and good image quality, what camera did you use?

It's the Panasonic FT1. A little waterproof compact.
Combining duct tape as the first layer and then black tape over for neatness is the best solution so far.
I've also considered super gluing the lanyard into the 3.5mm jack, but know I'd regret doing it straight after!

well, you guys aint the first to do this.
i invented a similar design a few weeks ago, mine used a 1" belt, meaning it can be strapped to your waist any time you like, safe as houses and pretty cool aesthetically

Final version
After a bit of testing, this is the final method I will use.
Some folded black tape under the battery cover. The battery cover adds extra strength to the tape and it looks so much neater than the Duct tape.

to be honest, that is just ugly. sorry.

I also missed such a whole for it, as I also did that with my Kaiser.
Now I sticked to a Silicon/Plastic Combi Case

why dont you get a jelly case or something like that and you can make hole in it. tape will hold fora few days only

I'm going to get a case as well I think. But the tape solution outlined which is partly under the battery case will last a lot longer than a few days.
The tape should only be under any pressure if you're about to drop your HD2, which won't be that often and then the weight isn't that great.

I think it's a great idea, and the 'under battery cover' mod (V 1.3? ) looks fine. I'm going to try copying it so I can clip it to my handbag, but with fishing line for the loop.

Mariad said:
I think it's a great idea, and the 'under battery cover' mod (V 1.3? ) looks fine. I'm going to try copying it so I can clip it to my handbag, but with fishing line for the loop.
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Yeah, I agree. The third version looks nice and clean! The only question is: What did you attach the tape to? To the cover itself? Because I wonder how much strength it requires to pull off the cover and if that wouldn't happen if the device falls...
EDIT: I love how you labeled this a "hack"!

I attached the tape to the plastic under the cover, where the sim card is. I'll put a quick video together to illustrate.
I left it hanging by the lanyard last night, for about 7 hours, 7 feet in the air, no probs. It's not intended to be pulled as hard as a regular lanyard loop may be, but for a precaution if the phone slips from your hands. And then it will be fine.

And here's the not very good howto video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL3owsWT3E4

I dont mean to jinx you or anything, but the piece of string from the lanyard could easily split the single layer of duct tape where it's folded.. that's going to be where the weak point is....especially considering the weight of the HD2. It's not going to matter how many pieces of tape you've got under the batter cover.
Now if you were to have your HD2 on a desk or in your pocket, the temptation of grabbing it by the lanyard will be there... or if someone else decided to yank the lanyard.....
I'd suggest trying that method of attachment on something of a similar weight and shaking it around for a bit to see how the duct tape handles.
Remember... the HD2 screen is thin glass... One drop on a hard surface or if it lands at the wrong angle, it'll be time to order a new one!

I've tested it by pulling far more strongly on the lanyard than it ever would be subjected to in real use. I was able to pull it hard about 20 times before the tape started to give way. By then it was visibly starting to tear away, so you should have a good warning before it breaks. It will perfectly suit my needs anyway and I might try doubling the tape up for more strength next. Also, I think this could be improved by using even stronger tape.

Very good on the last release.
Great idea, man.
I'm going to try, but I've only two left hands....
Pink strap should be nice too ;-)