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Strength gsm signal

Hi,
I noticed that with PPC2002 v 1.2 SE my gsm signal was about 3 or 4 bars. When I upgraded to PPC2003 v 4.00.05 my signal was about 2 or 3 bars.
Does anyone know how this is possible?
Jeffrey

I think they discovered that the signal indicator was lying (saying 'full signal' way too soon), and they made it more honest so that it would actually be useful.

Almost...
From what I can see here in my cradle, which is in the same place for a year now:
When the indicator says: "no signal", it means "reasonable signal".
When it says 1, 2 or 3, it means "Perfect Signal". Confusing.

Thnx for yours reply. Thought so, because I had good phone quality with lower signal.
@Bigrick
How do you like 4.00.10. Have you removed the T-mobile stuff? (how?)

Actually I was a bit disappointed at first too, thinking that the signal was weaker, but I noticed I get better signal now, both for voice and GPRS. I noticed because I can call and connect to the web in areas that I could not before, even if the signal indicator says no signal.

Signal Strength?

I have the UK T-mobile MDA Pro and am having all sorts of problems with the connection to T-mobile. If I am sat at home I get 1 or 2 bars (50-70% according to Hudson Phone Dashboard) and this is fine unless I ask the phone to do anything, open software, menu, etc.
In which case the signal strength disappears completely and then the phone sits for 1-2mins until it finds the signal again and the process then repeats...
Has anyone else seen this or do I have a defective unit??
Cheers
Andy

Mine sometimes switches between UTMS and GRPS if I try connecting to anything, but only if I'm in a ****e coverage area (mainly at work).
BTW, I don't suppose u have call timers working right on hudson phone dash with the MDA Pro?

andykemp said:
I have the UK T-mobile MDA Pro and am having all sorts of problems with the connection to T-mobile. If I am sat at home I get 1 or 2 bars (50-70% according to Hudson Phone Dashboard) and this is fine unless I ask the phone to do anything, open software, menu, etc.
In which case the signal strength disappears completely and then the phone sits for 1-2mins until it finds the signal again and the process then repeats...
Has anyone else seen this or do I have a defective unit??
Cheers
Andy
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Andy,
I had something that looks a little bit like it. The phone kept searching for a connection when trying to work wit MSN.
I put my phone settings on : settings/phone/band and set network type to GSM, when I am in Holland. So don't keep it on "auto"
When I am here in Romania however I can switch it back to auto and do not have the problem. It switches to the battrery consuming UMTS however. If I put it back on GSM it stays on GPRS however.
Huib

I have already tried setting the phone on Manual GSM - 1800... which improves the speed at which it reconnects but doesn't seem to eliminate the problem of the disconnections...
I know the signal isn't fantastic here but I have an old nokia 6210 with a tmobile payg sim in it and that always has 1-2 bars and has never lost it's signal...
I just tried putting it back on Auto... Then open messages and right on cue it lost the signal...

What do other people think? Does this sound faulty to you?

3g Voice Call Signal Strength

Hi All,
Im on Orange with my M5000, however I have noticed that when my 'G' (GPRS) symbol is showing I have good signal strength (exactly as I used to with my M2000) however whenever the phone switches to '3G' symbol my signal strength drops by 1 to 2 bars, which thens means in a lot of cases its not enough to hold a voice signal.
What can be done about this as Orange seems to have great 3G coverage (i nearly always have a 3G data connection which works fine, I just wish I could use it as a phone too.
Cheers
Shaun

Shaunfarris said:
Hi All,
Im on Orange with my M5000, however I have noticed that when my 'G' (GPRS) symbol is showing I have good signal strength (exactly as I used to with my M2000) however whenever the phone switches to '3G' symbol my signal strength drops by 1 to 2 bars, which thens means in a lot of cases its not enough to hold a voice signal.
What can be done about this as Orange seems to have great 3G coverage (i nearly always have a 3G data connection which works fine, I just wish I could use it as a phone too.
Cheers
Shaun
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Thats odd mines the reverse!!
On my M2000 and M5000 the G signal is about 2 bars, when the 5000 has U coverage my bars are full.
Matt

Signal Problem

I have a standard HTC Trinity P3600, that was not shipped on any particular network.
It is running the following ROM:
ROM version: 1.15.405.5
ROM date: 10/23/06
Radio version: 1.20.00.11
Protocol version: 32.52.7020.00W
ExtROM version: 1.15.405.101
I am using my Vodafone UK Sim Card in it, and have a problem with the signal.
If I soft or hard reset the device, I get a "G" symbol showing that GPRS is available, and an almost full signal indicated on the signal strength icon.
After a couple of seconds, the "G" changes to "3G" and the signal strength goes lower, to 1 or 2 lines, and a second or so later the "3G" icon goes and it shows the two arrows and a cross symbol indicating that the "Connection is not active" and the signal strength shows that there is "No phone service". If I then reset the phone, it goes back to getting a signal and then loses it again.
Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I can try to do in order to resolve this problem please ?
Many thanks in advance.
Paul.

Just and update:
In the phone settings, if I set the Band to be the network type of GSM instead of Auto, then the "G" is displayed and the signal strength is 3 lines and doesn't drop out.
Thanks again for any advice.
Cheers,
Paul.

Most 3g phones first connect to the network thru GSM and then 3g could it be that you have a low 3g coverage in your area.

Thanks for the reply Sammis.
I would have thought that if it had a normal GSM signal, then switched to 3G but had no signal, that it should switch back down to normal GSM ?
I switched it back to Auto again this morning, and it looks to be working fine. Maybe Vodafone were having problems in my area with 3G ?
Cheers,
Paul.

bbps said:
Just and update:
In the phone settings, if I set the Band to be the network type of GSM instead of Auto, then the "G" is displayed and the signal strength is 3 lines and doesn't drop out.
Thanks again for any advice.
Cheers,
Paul.
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I have noticed the same issue with my phone. I don't have the answer as to why this occurs, but I have done the same thing, switched the network type to GSM and my signal doesn't drop. It seems if I leave it on Auto, it is not stable... Could anyone shed some more light on this issue?
Thank you in advance for any assistance.
James

My Atom Life Says "3G" not "H" . . . Is That Normal?

My friend has the exact same subscription to the exact same moibile operator as me (MTC-Vodafone in Kuwait). We both have the same access point and proxy settings.
His Nokia E90 says "3.5G" right under the signal strength bars when he starts a data connection. But my O2 Atom Life just says "3G" in the white square box at the top of the screen and also in the smaller white box above the signal strength bars when I start a data connection.
Does anyone know why that is? I thought that 3.5G is the same as HSDPA. Is that true? And if so, isn't my O2 HSDPA-capable? And shouldn't it say "H" in the white box?
I'm running WM5 if that makes any difference . . .
Please help. I want my 3.5G!

WinCE displays the signal it can achieve. Maybe it's not getting an HSDPA signal where you're at.

omarabdallah said:
My friend has the exact same subscription to the exact same moibile operator as me (MTC-Vodafone in Kuwait). We both have the same access point and proxy settings.
His Nokia E90 says "3.5G" right under the signal strength bars when he starts a data connection. But my O2 Atom Life just says "3G" in the white square box at the top of the screen and also in the smaller white box above the signal strength bars when I start a data connection.
Does anyone know why that is? I thought that 3.5G is the same as HSDPA. Is that true? And if so, isn't my O2 HSDPA-capable? And shouldn't it say "H" in the white box?
I'm running WM5 if that makes any difference . . .
Please help. I want my 3.5G!
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What I can say is that you can only see "H" when you have HSDPA signal and also when your using your O2 to surf the web or checking email or doing some data transfer via 3G.
Other than that, you will only see "3G"
That is what's happening for my Dopod 838 pro.
I'm getting my Atom Life later in the afternoon

omarabdallah said:
My friend has the exact same subscription to the exact same moibile operator as me (MTC-Vodafone in Kuwait). We both have the same access point and proxy settings.
His Nokia E90 says "3.5G" right under the signal strength bars when he starts a data connection. But my O2 Atom Life just says "3G" in the white square box at the top of the screen and also in the smaller white box above the signal strength bars when I start a data connection.
Does anyone know why that is? I thought that 3.5G is the same as HSDPA. Is that true? And if so, isn't my O2 HSDPA-capable? And shouldn't it say "H" in the white box?
I'm running WM5 if that makes any difference . . .
Please help. I want my 3.5G!
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I have exactly same problem, my Hermes works perfectly well but the Atom Life never shows the H, I spoke to my operator and they showed me an Atome life (Chinese version) and that showed the H, no problem whatsoever but mine (English version) no way it will show, so the people at the operator said I should get it repaired as it should show an H when in HSDPA coverage.
O2 have now had it in for repair twice and last time even said that it does not support HSDPA, I just hope your service center in Kuwait is better than the one in Hong Kong coz they have absolutely no idea about mobile phones.
It should not matter whether WM5 or WM6 according to the operator.
3.5G is the same as HSDPA so there you are correct.

I'm not getting the H sign after I upgraded to WM6. When I was using WM5, the H sign appear when there is 3.5G service.

I contacted O2 support and they ask me to connect to internet when I am in the 3.5G area. I did and the indicator changed to H. So, I replied back to them stating that this is not what it supposed to be (in WM5, you do not need to connect) and they replied that it will be in the list of improvement... sigh...

normally without data passing thru it will fall back to 3G connection, when there is data going thru it will use 3.5G (HSDPA) if available. however i think the today screen or signal update is bugged it never show the current status when changed.
u can try downloading a big file and turn off the screen (hit the power button once) then turn it back on again. it will update the current connection speed.
btw I am using Atom Life WM6 CHT