I have the UK T-mobile MDA Pro and am having all sorts of problems with the connection to T-mobile. If I am sat at home I get 1 or 2 bars (50-70% according to Hudson Phone Dashboard) and this is fine unless I ask the phone to do anything, open software, menu, etc.
In which case the signal strength disappears completely and then the phone sits for 1-2mins until it finds the signal again and the process then repeats...
Has anyone else seen this or do I have a defective unit??
Cheers
Andy
Mine sometimes switches between UTMS and GRPS if I try connecting to anything, but only if I'm in a ****e coverage area (mainly at work).
BTW, I don't suppose u have call timers working right on hudson phone dash with the MDA Pro?
andykemp said:
I have the UK T-mobile MDA Pro and am having all sorts of problems with the connection to T-mobile. If I am sat at home I get 1 or 2 bars (50-70% according to Hudson Phone Dashboard) and this is fine unless I ask the phone to do anything, open software, menu, etc.
In which case the signal strength disappears completely and then the phone sits for 1-2mins until it finds the signal again and the process then repeats...
Has anyone else seen this or do I have a defective unit??
Cheers
Andy
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Andy,
I had something that looks a little bit like it. The phone kept searching for a connection when trying to work wit MSN.
I put my phone settings on : settings/phone/band and set network type to GSM, when I am in Holland. So don't keep it on "auto"
When I am here in Romania however I can switch it back to auto and do not have the problem. It switches to the battrery consuming UMTS however. If I put it back on GSM it stays on GPRS however.
Huib
I have already tried setting the phone on Manual GSM - 1800... which improves the speed at which it reconnects but doesn't seem to eliminate the problem of the disconnections...
I know the signal isn't fantastic here but I have an old nokia 6210 with a tmobile payg sim in it and that always has 1-2 bars and has never lost it's signal...
I just tried putting it back on Auto... Then open messages and right on cue it lost the signal...
What do other people think? Does this sound faulty to you?
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so here i go
i have just received my jasjar from SBE after them having it for over two month (complete morons over there dont EVER use then unless you are obliged to). got it back, worked fine for a week and now, it will ONLY log on to UMTS networks for example im sitting at home i have a U symbol and 2 bars signal strength. I go into phone settings and select GSM instead of auto and it stays searching for 10 minutes then says no signal, i can get it to join the network if i select manually my network but i can then make no calls or texts or log on to the gprs network. i am using pocket phone thingy for the today screen. and here comes the wierd part. when im out of signal in a non umts area the today screen plug in reports a signal strength ie 63% and above it it states attempting voice connection. and HERE THE REALLY WEIRD PART. i still receive my cell broadcasts when out of gsm signal. ie its searching and ill get a 'text' saying 0208, 01829 .
Please help and dont tell me i have to send it back to the idiots at SBE
Hi all. I bought the iMate JasJar as a converged device after a long time of having a phone/PPC duo with me. But since my PPC Axim X51V with an 8GB solidstate card was stolen, I went hunting for a converged device which was a true PDA. I found the JasJar and recieved it. My only problem is that it refuses to maintain a connections, GSM or UMTS, I have tried all the networks where I a m and none of them are better than the other. I am currently studying in South Africa, I am not a stranger to converged devices or the Windows Mobile world. But the JasJar just cannot function as a phone. I have upgraded the radio from 1.09.00 to 1.15.00 with no results. Is there anything I can do to get a consistent lock on the network? I tried the Manual network selection but that still wont help. The cell tower is also quite close to me since it is about a 5 minute walk from where I am. Please advise. Thank you and I apologize for my ranting.
I see you upgraded the radio, but have you tried other radio ROMs like 1.13 and 1.14? The latest isn't necessarily the greatest. Perhaps try some of the other radio ROMs next and see if any of them are better for you.
The thread for Universal radio's is below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298090
Best wishes,
There they only mention 1.15, where can i download the other radio roms?
Weaker radio than other phones
I live in a rural area in New Hampshire United State with a weak T-Mobile phone signal. I have an XDA Exec device but I cannot use it as a phone because of its bad radio receiver. I still use my XDA IIi because I can use that phone and make a 20 mins calls from work to home without loosing a connection. The XDA Exec drops about three times (at the same locations) within this distance. Where I have 3 bars on the XDA IIi, I barely have 1 bar on the Exec. I can make calls from third floor with the XDA IIi, but the XDA Exec does not receive any phone signal from the same floor. I have tried radio 1.09 and 1.13 on my XDA Exec and both did not make any different. My conclusion is the Exec seem to have a very weak radio receiver. Unless you live in the city where signal strength is not a problem, Exec does not seem to be a good choice for a phone device.
I have the same problem in the UK with T-Mobile. When I go out of coverage area for a while (say 2 hours) and then return to coverage, the phone does not (I waited 3 hours) pick up the radio signal again. If I go out of coverage for say just 10 minutes then the phone does pick up the signal again. Once the phone has lost the signal but is back in coverage, I've tried turning on Flight Mode and turning it off again and the phone still won't pick up a GSM signal.
I've had this issue with WM5 (T-Mobile UK Jan07 official release), WM6 and all of the radio ROMS that I've tried (including 1.18). T-Mobile's suggestion was to configure the phone to be GSM only (apparently the 3G signal is more patchy) and use the 1800 band only. That solution helps a little if you don't go out of coverage for a significant period of time but doesn't help if you need 3G.
I don't believe that it's a Universal issue - more of a T-Mobile issue. When I had a VF-UK SIM in the phone, I didn't have any of these issues.
PeterMcClure said:
I have the same problem in the UK with T-Mobile. When I go out of coverage area for a while (say 2 hours) and then return to coverage, the phone does not (I waited 3 hours) pick up the radio signal again. If I go out of coverage for say just 10 minutes then the phone does pick up the signal again. Once the phone has lost the signal but is back in coverage, I've tried turning on Flight Mode and turning it off again and the phone still won't pick up a GSM signal.
I've had this issue with WM5 (T-Mobile UK Jan07 official release), WM6 and all of the radio ROMS that I've tried (including 1.18). T-Mobile's suggestion was to configure the phone to be GSM only (apparently the 3G signal is more patchy) and use the 1800 band only. That solution helps a little if you don't go out of coverage for a significant period of time but doesn't help if you need 3G.
I don't believe that it's a Universal issue - more of a T-Mobile issue. When I had a VF-UK SIM in the phone, I didn't have any of these issues.
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Cannot offer a solution - but I'm on Orange and using their official ROM (Radio v1.13), I havent had any issues with loosing signal. In fact roaming round Europe and into Russia - the phone picked up equal sometimes more networks than a Nokia N95.
Matt
same problem, I had full signal before, but today, suddenly dropped the exec, and after that, it have very weak signal.
going to disassemble it tonight.
disassembled, problem fixed now, i have signal 5 out of 5
How did you do it? I mean disassemble and fix? Any help appreciated and would let me use my Universal instead of selling it and I want to keep it because I love the device but hate the coverage.
gamefreakgcb said:
How did you do it? I mean disassemble and fix? Any help appreciated and would let me use my Universal instead of selling it and I want to keep it because I love the device but hate the coverage.
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Opened the Universal like the Service Manual told me (downloaded from this site), then, there is a big, white plastic in in the top of the device, that's the antenna, 3 screws holding it. Unscrewed that, and I observed, it has got two little metal feet, connecting to mainboard.
Slacked that thing, so it connects more powerful.
Maybe it deformed when I dropped the device.
Assembled, switched on, and , we have got 5 signals
remember that: remove the flashlight, and the foil above it, before taking off the antenna module, if you don't do that, you can kill your flash.
Hi All,
Done a quick search on this and can't find anything relevent, but i apologise if a thread already exists.
Really a question for those in the UK on the t-mobile network. Have any of you attempted to sign up for the orange 2g roaming service yet? I signed up, recieved the confirmation text, replied to it, and received the final confirmation. However, I'm not sure it's working. The signal seems no stronger, and i still drop in my house.
Obviously i'm posting this in the android section because i'm running android myself and am wondering whether anyone in the same boat has managed to get roaming to work. Should the fact that we're on a non-official OS running off the sd card make a difference?
Oh and for completeness, i'm running shubcraft 1.5 rmnet.
Cheers fellas!
I'm quite happily flip flopping between Orange while at work and T-Mobile for everything else...
works like a charm for me though you do have to stick the phone into Airplane mode after selecting the different provider for the data to work ...
Jezwick said:
I'm quite happily flip flopping between Orange while at work and T-Mobile for everything else...
works like a charm for me though you do have to stick the phone into Airplane mode after selecting the different provider for the data to work ...
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Many thanks for the reply Jezwick. So, just for clarity, you're manually selecting each provider as and when required? Because i can do that, i think. When i select orange though, whilst it registers with the network fine, i get a little "R" above the signal bar (any ideas what that means?) And the speed appears to be limited to Edge. Orange have a very strong signal round here, so i figure i should be getting GPRS really.
It's the auto-switching i'm not totally sure is working really. Is there any explicit indicator that it's flipping on it's own? Or do you just observe a generally better 2g signal, rather than say, a very weak 3g one? Round the house, my phone is still trying to make do with 1 or zero bars of 3g. I would have hoped it would flip over to orange more or less all the time under those circumstances. Nothing to stop me manually selecting it i guess though...
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Many thanks for the reply Jezwick. So, just for clarity, you're manually selecting each provider as and when required? Because i can do that, i think. When i select orange though, whilst it registers with the network fine, i get a little "R" above the signal bar (any ideas what that means?) And the speed appears to be limited to Edge. Orange have a very strong signal round here, so i figure i should be getting GPRS really.
It's the auto-switching i'm not totally sure is working really. Is there any explicit indicator that it's flipping on it's own? Or do you just observe a generally better 2g signal, rather than say, a very weak 3g one? Round the house, my phone is still trying to make do with 1 or zero bars of 3g. I would have hoped it would flip over to orange more or less all the time under those circumstances. Nothing to stop me manually selecting it i guess though...
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The R is indeed for roaming that's the way it works if your not on your 'own' network.. The 'flipped' service will currently only work at GRPS speeds at the moment but should be 3G by the new year
I have noticed mine flipping automatically but only once or twice in the last few weeks but only when I get NO signal from the current service.
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The R is indeed for roaming that's the way it works if your not on your 'own' network.. The 'flipped' service will currently only work at GRPS speeds at the moment but should be 3G by the new year
I have noticed mine flipping automatically but only once or twice in the last few weeks but only when I get NO signal from the current service.
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Understood - thanks for the info Just done some reading and apparently EDGE is faster than basic GPRS. For some reason, i'd always assumed the reverse. Looks like the best option is just to have it always on orange whilst at home and use wifi for data (which i do anyway to compensate for the poor signal). Cheers!
Have had this phone a coupla months, happy with it except the stupid GPS problem and some other connection problem.
When using wifi connection at home, if i stop browsing and close the screen for a few minutes and go back to surf internet, the wifi will stop working, turning wifi off and on again will make it work. Not too difficult but sometimes this feels sucks.
second problem is, occationally i will lose the "3G" or "H" sign on the top and cannot connect to internet using 3G data connection. i have no idea why this is happening. sometimes when i am out on street, try to check some information online, 3g is my only option and it really bothers me when it stops working. i'm using orange. all setting are as original.
Anyone knows how to solve these 2 problems?
the phone either works on
850/1900/2100
or
900/1900/2100
so depending on the model that you purchased
and where you live
also the cell phone provider that you are using
you might not get the full band usage of your phone
for example using the above models on a phone service that only uses
1700/1900/2100
then you are cripled
some telcos only use 1 band or 2 bands at most
1700 or 2100 for example
ehe12 said:
Have had this phone a coupla months, happy with it except the stupid GPS problem and some other connection problem.
When using wifi connection at home, if i stop browsing and close the screen for a few minutes and go back to surf internet, the wifi will stop working, turning wifi off and on again will make it work. Not too difficult but sometimes this feels sucks.
second problem is, occationally i will lose the "3G" or "H" sign on the top and cannot connect to internet using 3G data connection. i have no idea why this is happening. sometimes when i am out on street, try to check some information online, 3g is my only option and it really bothers me when it stops working. i'm using orange. all setting are as original.
Anyone knows how to solve these 2 problems?
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3g nodes and 2g bts wont give you the same area coverage, yes you will lose the H and drop down to 3g if your -db rating (signal is low) is at the highest limit for the cell and it deems you either need handing off to another site or you were one of the last ones to be allocated a slot and get kicked.
its how the cookie crumbles, no where will give you 100% coverage and if u are close to a small site thats overloaded with traffic you will always get crappy uplink and downlink...
b
I dont know where you are or what provider you use, but I have the same problem with my I900M on bell. it is apparently a widely known issue with Bell, and they associated my phone with the ongoing ticket incase it gets resolved they'll contact me.
Also, when I lose the 3g, ts a good chance my phone is going to lock up and need a battery pull to boot back up.
So Basically if I leave the house or wifi spot, I try not to show people my internet on my phone so it doesnt look like I'm carrying a brick in my pocket everywhere.
anarchyuk said:
3g nodes and 2g bts wont give you the same area coverage, yes you will lose the H and drop down to 3g if your -db rating (signal is low) is at the highest limit for the cell and it deems you either need handing off to another site or you were one of the last ones to be allocated a slot and get kicked.
its how the cookie crumbles, no where will give you 100% coverage and if u are close to a small site thats overloaded with traffic you will always get crappy uplink and downlink...
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so that's something to do with the carrier? Thanks for the explanation!
I'm on the Three network, have an unlocked HTC desire HD with 17 m2 radio.
Normally I get terrible signal in the flat that i live in, its a granite building in Aberdeen. Occasional the signal is around 1 bar, sometimes grey, and most of the time its X.. (no service), but i still manage to get 3G or H. When looking at the APN settings and specifically at available networks when doing a manual search, next to 3 is a green star which I assume means it's connected to 3 mobile network. But sometimes i get amazing signal, full bars, which puzzled me! so I looked at the available networks and next to 3, there was no star, so i tried calling a number and it rang and came through. I also tried using mobile internet when in this "good coverage" state, and google would not load (G is displayed in the notifications bar). After a while, the bars would drop to 1 or grey, and i would then get H or 3G, and google loads again. What's going on? and how can i take advantage of this when i have no signal.
try and find the app called open signal maps
that can be used to see where the signal-towers are
and how good the signal is
or use this site and search your adress
http://opensignalmaps.com/
sincere regards,
blokhoofd
The antenna is really wierd.
Normally I only get 2G connection.
But if I completly take my hand off the lower cover and lift the phone up a bit for a better signal, I get a 3Mbps connection, though as soon as I lower my phone back to normal the 3G signal is completly gone or gets really bad (zero bars and lower than EDGE speed)!
The antenna in this phone sucks really bad, my old Nokia phone atleast had a stable connection.
This is very bad news... I was considering DHD, but if there are isseus with gsm signal than I am really worried... Is it also happening on the stock ROM?
As long as network coverege is good you should be okay.
I swaped my SIM card with a friends and with better coverege, 3.5G worked good (solid 2Mbps), only slight drop if SIM cover is completly covered, which doesn't happen in normal use.
I just can't understand how I can get such high speeds with my SIM while on a badly covered area. haven't tested how well other devices pick up the 3G signal (my old phone wasn't 3G yet)
I'm still using stock ROM btw.
Have you tried a different radio?
People are reporting different results with them, so might be an idea to play around and see if anyone of them works better for you
I've tried the new Orange radio and I'm getting better signal, although threes coverage isn't great I would expect the device to seamlessly change between 3.5g and gprs but it doesn't it'll get stuck on hsdpa network until the x appears and sometimes it'll go to gprs and go back to three bars. Before it would be on x all the time and that's probably why the battery was quite ****. 3g doesnt penetrate buildings very well and I live in a granite building so would explain why I get better gprs signal. I just wish the antenna was smart and changed seamlessly.
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So annoying dhd still not selecting the next best connection just no service but if I select to detect network automatically it connects eventually
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