Please Help with Taking Apart Wing - Wing, P4350 General

Hi Everyone,
I need to replace the screen and digitizer on my phone and I was wondering if anyone could please post a guide on how to do so that would be great. Also, I am a newbie and would like to know the difficulty level of repairing my wing? Any help is greatly appreciated! Great thanks to all in advance. Happy Holidays everyone !

I have the herald service manual... I used it to disassemble my phone so I could spray paint the case

arucard98 said:
I have the herald service manual... I used it to disassemble my phone so I could spray paint the case
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Thank You So Much. I have a quick question, what is the level of difficulty for a newbie?

rpp293 said:
Thank You So Much. I have a quick question, what is the level of difficulty for a newbie?
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It is actually very easy indeed, especially using Mike's tutorials
THe only slightly difficult bit are in getting the semicircular circuit out and back in when you take the whole thing apart but you dont really need to do this when replacing the screen. Dont be put off by the dissembly instructions which show you how to do this. When you have got the screen off, that it IT.
Lastly as others have commented, re-assembly of the keyboard to the base can be a bit tricky unless you are doing it quicly and remember exactly how it came off. I once broke an L shaped 'foot' which I insist mysteriously isnt shown on the YouTube tuturial.
You can even get the digitiser off the screen relatively easy, though there isnt much point in doing this as it isnt worthwhile getting a screen without a digitiser, nor does the digitiser often break before the screen does. (I DO have a Hermes which has a hole in the digitiser, which nevertheless does still work!)

Can this same flex cable be causing my phone to be constantly opening the phoneprogram?

licensedtoquill said:
It is actually very easy indeed, especially using Mike's tutorials
THe only slightly difficult bit are in getting the semicircular circuit out and back in when you take the whole thing apart but you dont really need to do this when replacing the screen. Dont be put off by the dissembly instructions which show you how to do this. When you have got the screen off, that it IT.
Lastly as others have commented, re-assembly of the keyboard to the base can be a bit tricky unless you are doing it quicly and remember exactly how it came off. I once broke an L shaped 'foot' which I insist mysteriously isnt shown on the YouTube tuturial.
You can even get the digitiser off the screen relatively easy, though there isnt much point in doing this as it isnt worthwhile getting a screen without a digitiser, nor does the digitiser often break before the screen does. (I DO have a Hermes which has a hole in the digitiser, which nevertheless does still work!)
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First of all, Thank You for responding. So using Mike's Tuts, and by reading the required info, I will able to easily replace the lcd screen? Also, what is the required reading for a newbie to replace the lcd? Again, Thank you for your help.

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Can anyone tell me what this is?????

Hi There,
Im in the process of changing the LCD screen on my jam, and during the removal of the housing, a little black thing fell out. I have no idea what it is and where it needs to go.
I have attached a photo of it hoping someone knows what it is and where it needs to go.
Thanks.
Does it look like something that broke off? Eg. With sharp egdes. If thats the case, chances that you won't be able to fix it back in.
Anyway, it looks too small to be an individual 'component'.
I thought it was normal to end up with more bits when you put something back together.... :$
No, Its a whole part, nothing broke while I was dismantling it. It looks like it's used with a switch or something. I'm surprised no one has mentioned it in the "Jam Housing" thread. I was really careful when opening the unit, and it fell out easily when I tipped the unit over.
Damn, looks like ill be ordering new housing too
I think it should go somewhere near the sliding volume control..
fixator
it looks like fixation of stilus inside the set in the place of stilus`s recess ,but my mda compact has it white color
Hello, that piece both covers holes that there are near the Sd card. I think that the function is that not between the dust in the machine, by the holes where the cord puts to hang. Moan my badly English, is a translation of google. Greetings
It covers these holes. Greetings
I also had the same problem when I opened my magician. From my experience, that part could be the hinge/lock that holds down the screen on one of it's side.
I could be wrong though.
Got it!!!!!!!
dokoto said:
It covers these holes. Greetings
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Dokoto, YOU GOT IT!!! Thanks heaps, now I can put it back together without worrying.
I'm surprised this isnt a common problem, it falls out so easily. Maybe once everything is back in place, something will hold it in.
Anyway, I've attached a pic to show everyone where it lives, incase someone else has the same problem.
Thanks again Dokoto!!

How to disasseble your Trinity

Dear friends,
My offer to the forum, a step by step guide on how to safely disassemble your precious Trinity. You might ask of course, why should I do that on a very expensive electronics device? Well I personally had to do it in order to remount the phone in a white casing because my black had peeled off after two months of ownership and I did not want to send the phone to HTC. Also because it was really fun.
My best regards to you all.
http://rapidshare.com/files/90486167/DimantosGuide2DisassembleTrinity.zip
What a great tutorial !!!
Thx a lot, it is the best one.
GREAT!
Thank you very much for this very helpfull guide!
Good !
Hi !
Thanks for this great guide !
Very good work !
Concerning the tutorial that I have written any questions are welcome !
Regards !
Great
Thanks for the tutorial
Great tutorial! Thanks! I actually just had my Infrared window pop into the phone on me today (half way at least). I want to try to get it back to normal again w/o sending my phone to HTC. Apparently they have a swap program, so who knows what kind of condition the phone you receive will be in.
Where did you get the original white housing? I might be interested in switching that also since it will be half-way apart already.
Dimanto,
what a super guide. The photos and layout are really good.
Now available in [pdf]
Dear friends,
I have converted the "How to disassemble Trinity" guide in [pdf] and is now posted in xda-developers. I think that this format is more proper because the file size has reduced a lot. You can find the rapidshare link or the attachment in the first message of this post.
Regards
HTC P3600 Trinity - Inside - OUT!
Grate post really thanks!!!
You may take a look to these photos about disassembling htc…
thanks.. thats a very detailed guide
Where to cut...
Hi
Anyone can tell me the exact location of the gps reciver and the gsm antenna inb the fotos, to try cut my aluminium case to have more radio signal and unblock the GPS reciver.
Thanks in advance
Jorge
Thanks a loooot !
dimanto said:
Dear friends,
My offer to the forum, a step by step guide on how to safely disassemble your precious Trinity. [...]
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You're the best : I just broke my screen and found your "life saving" guide !
Thanks again !
Make it sticky!
Great "how to", thank you very much
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I think this post should be stycky
Hello, great guide, only one question, when detaching the cable from the motherboard for the LCD screen you commented it was a little more difficult and to pull up the black lever. Can you elaborate on this part and also advise how easy it is to replace and close once the cable is reinstalled. I have a crack in my LCD screen, so probably wont have to go as far as you. Have accidently broken this type of clip prior and want to be careful. Thanks
LCD Panel and Digitiser
Hello dimanto, any thoughts on how the LCD panel and the digitiser fit together prior to me starting on this project. Thanks.
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Hello, great guide, only one question, when detaching the cable from the motherboard for the LCD screen you commented it was a little more difficult and to pull up the black lever. Can you elaborate on this part and also advise how easy it is to replace and close once the cable is reinstalled. I have a crack in my LCD screen, so probably wont have to go as far as you. Have accidently broken this type of clip prior and want to be careful. Thanks
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Hello my friend. Actually it is not so difficult to pull up the black lever so you can then easily take out the screen cable. This is rather easy, also to clip it back on. What you have to be careful of is when you unclip the LCD screen cable from the the M/B, then when you pulll out the LCD screen from its postition, do it very carefully because it is very easy to accidentally cut the LCD screen (ribbon). So don't worry about the clip.
Regards!
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Hello dimanto, any thoughts on how the LCD panel and the digitiser fit together prior to me starting on this project. Thanks.
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Well I do but if you are buying a new LCD screen don't bother about it because the digitizer is already on the new screen. If my reply is not helpfull just tell me what part you are changing exactly. Basically the digitizer is a small glass attached on the LCD screen connected to her via a small ribbon cable. If you need something more just ask.
Regards!
thanks dimanto
but can you please choose tools which you used from this page
http://cnn.cn/shop/tools-c-71.html
because there are different sizes and types of tools
pcdoc1 said:
Hello, great guide, only one question, when detaching the cable from the motherboard for the LCD screen you commented it was a little more difficult and to pull up the black lever. Can you elaborate on this part and also advise how easy it is to replace and close once the cable is reinstalled. I have a crack in my LCD screen, so probably wont have to go as far as you. Have accidently broken this type of clip prior and want to be careful. Thanks
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This is exactly what happened to me. I broke this little black clip and now my phone is useless. Where did you get another one? I just cannot fix the flat LCD cable anymore to get a proper picture on LCD (now it's either inverted or screwed up or totally missing).
PLEASE HELP! I can't live without my Trinity

Keyboard is getting too loose!

Hi,
just another question by a lam3 user
After some day using my tytn, i noticed that the keyboard is very loose, just after locking it under the lcd.
to explain better: video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj56htWOHEk
as you see, the keyboard is very loose just after locking it.
My device id is 640, so it is affected by some keyboard sliding problems(is a v1605)...but my question is: There is something i can do to fix this?
i tried to tighten the screws i signed here
but without significative improvement.
this is a minor issue,i think, but if i can fix it my tytn will go better in my huge hands
however, no problem if the fixing procedure involves to remove the warranty sticker up the screw, the tytn is on italy and i do not think that vodafone uk will change it
many many thanks
gtazok
The screws you've tightened are just for the housing. To make the keyboard tighter, you need to take the device apart
These 2 links explain everything you need:
http://michael-channon.spaces.live....BlogPart&_c02_owner=1&partqs=cat=Hermes+Fixes
http://www.howardforums.com/showpost.php?p=9119842&postcount=1
Good luck!
underneath your main board is 4 screws tighten those and you should be set. If not you may need to by a new housing. I hope the tighten helps though.
omg, this will really need to open all the device!
damn, there is no other way?
I couldn't really tell from your video if it is the standard loose keyboard problem you've got, but my keyboard was loose in the way that when closed it could 'fall' open pretty easily.
I used the guides above, and while it does invalidate your warranty (unless you're able to remove the warranty sticker without breaking it), it is very easy to do and put back together.
my problem is, as shown on video:
when i try to press the power button, i apply some force to my forefinger to tighten the grabbing around the phone.
when i apply this force, the upper part of the phone(the part where is the buttons of mail and iexplore) slide off the housing, and go for about 2 mm (as shown in the video).
i will like to tightnen this, to do that the phone will never slide the keyb without apply *Decent* pressure.
the keyboard,however, stay solid when fully opened, and *decent* pressure is needed to restore it from the full opening to housing closed.
was i *almost* clear? i'm very sorry but i understand that my english is a mess and really confusing, but if someone could guide me, i can do photo, pictures and so on.
thanks
gtazok
Yep, that sounds exactly the same as my problem!
The 2 links above should help, as long as you're happy to take the phone apart. If you are willing, it is pretty easy to do, but will invalidate your warranty if you still have one.
A couple of taps on the indents on the sliders with a screwdriver will make the sliders much tighter, and you can test the tightness before putting it back together.
I went a bit overboard with mine and overtightened it, but now I prefer it that way -there's no way the keyboard will slide out without some effort
StarMonkee said:
Yep, that sounds exactly the same as my problem!
The 2 links above should help, as long as you're happy to take the phone apart. If you are willing, it is pretty easy to do, but will invalidate your warranty if you still have one.
A couple of taps on the indents on the sliders with a screwdriver will make the sliders much tighter, and you can test the tightness before putting it back together.
I went a bit overboard with mine and overtightened it, but now I prefer it that way -there's no way the keyboard will slide out without some effort
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great, that was exactly was i searched so!
but..a couple of taps...i have noticed that the indents are "stamped", there is the possibility i will break it with too much force?
and, for opening the tytn, where i can find all the needed in one pack? i live in italy, but i have no idea of what screwdriver and things must(and where)buy.
maybe there is some omnicomprensive pack that could be shipped to italy without problem.
many thanks, i appreciate much
Gtazok
The metal is quite soft in the sliders so it is possible to hit it too hard, but I don't think you're likely to do that if you start softly and keep testing the slider tightness until it's right.
The only 'special' screws are the ones holding the case in, but they can be opened pretty easily with a small flat screwdriver. From what I can remember, the screws inside the phone are just small normal screws.
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omg, this will really need to open all the device!
damn, there is no other way?
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Okay If you do tighten those screws it will help that. I've seen them to be soo bad that if you tilt the device it slides open. Soo basically if you still under warranty send it to your provider other wise follow this guide.
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Hermes/Hermes_Manual_Hyins/Hermes_Service_Manual.pdf
This will guide you through the entire process of taking apart your Hermes. Good luck if you have any questions.
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HI!!
just managed to re-close my hermes (first time i closed it without inserting the last cable LOL...i forgot it, but before powering off he comed to my mind..omg what i have risked not plugging last cable before closing??)
however, i did manage do disassembly only with a standard little screwdriver, not without problems
i just arrived to disassemble the keyb, and get rid on the rails.
I must admit that i NEVER have seen so much dust in a phone(i think mine was re-assembled from another).
i have extracted the rails, the 2, and tried to gentle tapping the indents.No way to go, i tapped *gently*(sometimes a little hard) but i really noticed no improvement
so,i thinked:
"if i change the rails, i will have a perfectly mirrored situation, with the keyboard closed it will be ok, with keyb opened it will be a little loose"
(remember, the keyb was loose when try to open it, not when to close)
So i changed the rails, switching them...
and now it's really better, the phone rarely go off his housing, closed, and go down a little more easily(but is acceptable, because i never do any "forcing" when it's open..)
maybe, with time, the opening will become a problem, with the keyb sliding to close when it's open.
However, maybe this not occour.So for now i'm happy
last thing. I noticed that on the page where the man tried to adjust the rails, he suggested
1)to tap the indents( tried, work very very little)
2)to insert pieces of ribbon
i not tried the second suggestion, because i have not understand WHERE to insert those pieces.Maybe he was suggesting to insert them at the end of the rails? where the carts block? if it is, why? i tried to pull up the small piece of "sheet"(i don't know if it's the correct term, sorry for my bad english ) on the border of the cart where it don't block, but whitout results..so inserting ribbon what improvement would have done?
thanks for the patience to read all my messed up english and many thanks
gtaz
the sliders are becoming loose as the beginning.
someone knows where to buy the sliders as a spare parts?
anyone know?
ok no way?
gtazok said:
anyone know?
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Take a look in this thread & mikechannon's link; if not there, then just pm / ask mikechannon...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298784
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Take a look in this thread & mikechannon's link; if not there, then just pm / ask mikechannon...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298784
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thanks
gtazok said:
the sliders are becoming loose as the beginning.
someone knows where to buy the sliders as a spare parts?
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I think you just need to increase those indents a bit more than you did. It is more successful to tap the indents using a small flat blade screwdriver and a small hammer. (Go easy of course and keep testing as you tap. You want a very firm click into place. You should hear the click and it should be really quite hard to move the slider over the indents using your finger tips)
The tapping technique is probably better than just pressing a screwdriver blade onto the indent. Pressing rather than tapping is likely to simply bend the entire metal strip and curve it slightly. This might improve the grip for a while but as the curve gradually straightens out again the slider will just become loose again. Using the tapping method I did mine well over a year ago and I have never had to redo it and it takes a very firm push an audibl clicks to open the device.
(Buying new sliders will not solve your problem. The vast majority, it seems to me were made withy too shallow indents. It may be worth buying new ones if the micro welds have sprung apart however)
Mike
hi
i dismantled my hermes one more time. This time i put out an hammer(a big hammer,indeed)so i "gently" hammered with a flat screwdriver the indents.
result? the keyb is now "really locked" when i open it..but the opening problem remain.
when i try to open it when it is closed, with my finger, i notice that the slipping of the upper left part(seeing the phone from the front) is EVER too loose, i reopened 2 times and tapped "not so gently" the incriminated indent, but i noticed no result. i also tried to exchange the sliders (the lower with the higher) but no improvement was done.
i think that is a defective implementation, because the "centre of pressure" is located in the upper part of the phone, so the phone is like to open more easily when it is closed. Did anyone noticed that?
however, the overall is increased, i think, about 30-40% more tighten as before, and that is no bad.
shame it has no solved my problem, but life it so bad that i can will be live happy with a little loose tytn
thanks
Gtazok
I agree that my the upper left keyboard slider has always been looser than the bottom...
good, that confirm my idea.
let us know if any other noticed the same thing.
thanks
gtazok

Searching for someone who have dismantled his niki

Hi I have recently let my niki fall while the sliding sreen was opened. Since then I have noticed that the screen part of the phone move a little when the phone is closed. It's really unpleasant when you hold it closed in your hand because it's always moving and doesn't give you the initial sensation of rigidity...
I think I have bend the rail that the screen part usually follow and I wonder if there is an easy way to dismantle the two parts of the phone to rebend the rail properly.
We can see two cross-shaped screw behind the screen when the phone is opened I don't know what it holds so I'm asking for a handyman who have already dismantle his phone or had this kind of trouble and can tell me if the sliding rail is easily reachable and not too difficult to put the two part together again
(I have a bad experience in dismantleling electronic device and I know that it's often easy to dismantle but when you put it together again It's worth than before...)
Thank you for your help
why not send it to HTC assistance? the device is probably in its warranty and you don't need to worry about it
I have bought it on ebay, and althought it was said to be warranted, the warranty seal was tapped...
That's why I'm asking for your help :S
ow :s that's a problem :| sorry, I have no idea on how to help you
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It's very easy to disassemble the NIKI the Display Part and the Other.
I will try to make a Video for u to do that, in the next Days.
thanks a lot do you think my sliding problem is solvable because if you think it's not I'm not going to dissasemble it for pleasure
super danke valvarian !!
would be great if you can make a video of how to dismantle a nike. just ordered new housing from cnn.cn.
thanks in advance !
Valvarin said:
It's very easy to disassemble the NIKI the Display Part and the Other.
I will try to make a Video for u to do that, in the next Days.
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watch http://cnn.cn/shop/p5500touch-dual-full-housing-black-p-2329.html for new housing including sliding meachanism.
mouh_stach007 said:
thanks a lot do you think my sliding problem is solvable because if you think it's not I'm not going to dissasemble it for pleasure
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thanks for the link it will be very useful if I don't succeed in rebending the screen rail
but before opening my Niki I'm still waiting for the dissasembling video

weird graphic issue

hey guys!
i really like you´re forum, it was helping me several times...
now i need you´re help again.
I think you will easily recognize that i have a bad problem with
my hermes - if you look at the attached pics.
The touchscreen is working, the device is booting too and is working nice...
but, uhm, well - i don´t know how to fix the problem shown in the pic.
I´d be really grateful if you can solve my problem.
I don´t know what to do, i just disambled it and cleand everything, i tried an hardreset... the problem´s still there. =(
Regards
We'll see what others think, but looking at picture 3, I'd say your LCD is cracked and the the liquid crystal seeping out a little under te digitizer layer. If I'm correct there is only one practical solution and that is a digitizer LCD combo replacement.
If you replace it be very careful to replace it with the correct one - Hermes had at least three different types and it is essential to get like-for-like.
There is a thread here about the different types.
Mike
One way to check if it's a crack is to place some pressure with your finger along that diagonal line - if you see odd colors moving around in a "liquid" way then it is pretty certainly cracked.
Ouch, i also think that, that is a crack.. Did you drop your device or something.? I think you really need to replace your display..
first of all: thx for the fast responses
i tried what you suggested to check if it´s cracked... unfortunately you´re right
i think a replacement would be too much efford and it also would be too expensive and risky... so i think i gonna buy a new pda... htc of course ;-)
thx to you all
softonic

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