Hi There,
Im in the process of changing the LCD screen on my jam, and during the removal of the housing, a little black thing fell out. I have no idea what it is and where it needs to go.
I have attached a photo of it hoping someone knows what it is and where it needs to go.
Thanks.
Does it look like something that broke off? Eg. With sharp egdes. If thats the case, chances that you won't be able to fix it back in.
Anyway, it looks too small to be an individual 'component'.
I thought it was normal to end up with more bits when you put something back together.... :$
No, Its a whole part, nothing broke while I was dismantling it. It looks like it's used with a switch or something. I'm surprised no one has mentioned it in the "Jam Housing" thread. I was really careful when opening the unit, and it fell out easily when I tipped the unit over.
Damn, looks like ill be ordering new housing too
I think it should go somewhere near the sliding volume control..
fixator
it looks like fixation of stilus inside the set in the place of stilus`s recess ,but my mda compact has it white color
Hello, that piece both covers holes that there are near the Sd card. I think that the function is that not between the dust in the machine, by the holes where the cord puts to hang. Moan my badly English, is a translation of google. Greetings
It covers these holes. Greetings
I also had the same problem when I opened my magician. From my experience, that part could be the hinge/lock that holds down the screen on one of it's side.
I could be wrong though.
Got it!!!!!!!
dokoto said:
It covers these holes. Greetings
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Dokoto, YOU GOT IT!!! Thanks heaps, now I can put it back together without worrying.
I'm surprised this isnt a common problem, it falls out so easily. Maybe once everything is back in place, something will hold it in.
Anyway, I've attached a pic to show everyone where it lives, incase someone else has the same problem.
Thanks again Dokoto!!
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Hi,
As my wizard dropped in the water it got completely soaked.
I disassembled it to let it dry, see photos attached, put it together again and presto, almost everything works!!!
Just four keys of the keyboard do not work anymore, and as it all happened a week ago now I do not think this will be fixed.
Does anyone know if they do not work because of the water or because of the impact (the Wizard smashed on the street first)?
Has anybody ever fixed a faulty keypad?
Can anybody tell me where I can get a replacement keypad?
Let me know if you need instructions how to disassemble your wizard.
many thanks!
manhattan.
I have no answer to your question, but it is nice to see the inside of the wizard one time.
A couple of other people were asking about disassembly in other posts - so the instructions would probably be handy.
Hi,
I would love some complete instructions on dissasembly as I am about to take mine apart for painting and a hardware mod.
As far as the keyboard goes, you would be surpised how long they retain water, i doubt its a hardware problem, keyboard are pretty much solid state with only a tiny membrane for contacts. However it is this membrane that is most likely to be your problem, the contacts are very close together and covered in a film that can be verry attractive to water as it has rubber over it. So in essence I am saying I bet it is still wet in there, just a few droplets of condensation would do it.
Options, take it a apart and check and leave in a very warm dry place for a day, or II place whole wizard on a warm heater (not hot) for a while and see if that gets it.
T
Hi,
I also want to know the details of disassembly the wizard.
I think you had better post the instructions o disassembly here as I'm sure there are quite a few people who wuld like to know, me included.
Just a thought by looking at the picture (brave btw!)
Would it be possible to replace the 2,5mm headphone jack by an 3,5mm one and drill out a new hole for the larger connector?
Would be neat if you weren't so dependable on those stupid converters. Not a pretty sight anyway.
Thanks for sharing the photos.
I took mine apart some time ago to fix the stylist problem and when I put it back together some of the keys wouldnt work. The back light wouldnt work either. I found the problem was the little snap that secures the flat cable form the keyboard to the main board. There is a really small clasp that clicks down on the flat cable after you insert it into the connector. Once I took it back apart and snapped it, everything was normal again.
I plan on taking mine apart to change the keyboard form the English/arabic to just English, (anyone know where I can buy the keyboard/keys?) so any instructions you have will be appreciated.
Thanks
The stylii in the picture look like BA stylii.
Do I get 10 points?
will post instructions
OK guys I will put together the instructions and upload them here. I just have absolutely no time now so I hope you can wait a day or two....
Thanks for the comments. I am aware of the little lock that secures the mini flatcable that connects the keypad to the motherboard. I assume that is not the problem as I snapped it securely back in place.
I will try the heater suggestion, I suppose you mean to put the wizard in an oven set at let's say 50 degrees celsius?
The styluses in the photo are from my Qtek 2020. As the Wizard smashed I lost its stylus.... :-(
Sorry the photos do not show the display half of the wizard disassembled... I realised too late that others would benefit from pictures...
Cheers
Manhattan
I dont think I would put it in an oven. I would think that just inside a vehicle sitting in direct sunlight for a few hours would probably do, unless you are in a really cold climate. You may also try some electrical contact cleaner then get some additional heat to it after it evaportates. There is probably something that has trapped some moisture somewhere. Just for info, I dropped my Jamin the other night about 4 feet directly onto a tile floor. It bounced a couple times, ejected the SD card, and reset. But it is working fine. However, I had a bud that dropped his 2 day old Sony Ericsson P900 into water and dried it off immediatly and let it air dry. It worked, but he had problems ever since. It would drop calls and restart all the time. So there may not be a complete fix for it.
Good luck
Hey guys, someone posted the HTC Service manual for the Wizard!
In this manual you see pictures how to disassemble the phone!
It's realy the best manual to use for opening your mobile friend....
Good Luck
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=43836
I've successfully fixed my girlfriends crappy creative keyboard once after water damage using a pencil. Depending how the keyboard is made, most of the time there will be really thin conductive tracks literally printed on the substrate. The water isn't particularly nice to these tracks and I found that in some parts there was noticale oxidation/corrosion. By very lightly scratching of the affeted paint and then going over it with a graphite pencil this did the trick.
Just an idea, personally I probably wouldn't do it to my vario but then again I'm still in the honeymoon phase with it.
Good luck
I fix phones for a living for many stores and have many phones that have water damage
what you dont do is charge it.. it will burn out the board
what you do is let it dry out, use the service manual and let it dry out in parts
then get white spirit and a toothbrush... dip it in and clean the contacts for yourk eys
once done, again let it try and then see how it goes. thats what i do, although we have a machine that sends out sonic pulses but the above method works too especially when im lazy
HTC Wizard Disassembly
hi guys. a lot of confusion over this simple matter. I don't know where the PDF file everyone's talking about is, most links didnt work, but here's some pics. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK! hahahahaha!
http://www.pdagold.com/articles/detail.asp?a=274
Hi,
I have a O2 xda model
IPL 1.01
SPL 2.21
GSM 01.12.10
OS 1.5.4.2
there is problem in formating the phone.
Even after a hard reset the Os wont boot,
it says that "formating is failed".
there is a prolem in the flash memory of the phone.
please help me with the assembly and disassembly process so that i can fix it.
Any one?
Hi,
just another question by a lam3 user
After some day using my tytn, i noticed that the keyboard is very loose, just after locking it under the lcd.
to explain better: video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj56htWOHEk
as you see, the keyboard is very loose just after locking it.
My device id is 640, so it is affected by some keyboard sliding problems(is a v1605)...but my question is: There is something i can do to fix this?
i tried to tighten the screws i signed here
but without significative improvement.
this is a minor issue,i think, but if i can fix it my tytn will go better in my huge hands
however, no problem if the fixing procedure involves to remove the warranty sticker up the screw, the tytn is on italy and i do not think that vodafone uk will change it
many many thanks
gtazok
The screws you've tightened are just for the housing. To make the keyboard tighter, you need to take the device apart
These 2 links explain everything you need:
http://michael-channon.spaces.live....BlogPart&_c02_owner=1&partqs=cat=Hermes+Fixes
http://www.howardforums.com/showpost.php?p=9119842&postcount=1
Good luck!
underneath your main board is 4 screws tighten those and you should be set. If not you may need to by a new housing. I hope the tighten helps though.
omg, this will really need to open all the device!
damn, there is no other way?
I couldn't really tell from your video if it is the standard loose keyboard problem you've got, but my keyboard was loose in the way that when closed it could 'fall' open pretty easily.
I used the guides above, and while it does invalidate your warranty (unless you're able to remove the warranty sticker without breaking it), it is very easy to do and put back together.
my problem is, as shown on video:
when i try to press the power button, i apply some force to my forefinger to tighten the grabbing around the phone.
when i apply this force, the upper part of the phone(the part where is the buttons of mail and iexplore) slide off the housing, and go for about 2 mm (as shown in the video).
i will like to tightnen this, to do that the phone will never slide the keyb without apply *Decent* pressure.
the keyboard,however, stay solid when fully opened, and *decent* pressure is needed to restore it from the full opening to housing closed.
was i *almost* clear? i'm very sorry but i understand that my english is a mess and really confusing, but if someone could guide me, i can do photo, pictures and so on.
thanks
gtazok
Yep, that sounds exactly the same as my problem!
The 2 links above should help, as long as you're happy to take the phone apart. If you are willing, it is pretty easy to do, but will invalidate your warranty if you still have one.
A couple of taps on the indents on the sliders with a screwdriver will make the sliders much tighter, and you can test the tightness before putting it back together.
I went a bit overboard with mine and overtightened it, but now I prefer it that way -there's no way the keyboard will slide out without some effort
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Yep, that sounds exactly the same as my problem!
The 2 links above should help, as long as you're happy to take the phone apart. If you are willing, it is pretty easy to do, but will invalidate your warranty if you still have one.
A couple of taps on the indents on the sliders with a screwdriver will make the sliders much tighter, and you can test the tightness before putting it back together.
I went a bit overboard with mine and overtightened it, but now I prefer it that way -there's no way the keyboard will slide out without some effort
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great, that was exactly was i searched so!
but..a couple of taps...i have noticed that the indents are "stamped", there is the possibility i will break it with too much force?
and, for opening the tytn, where i can find all the needed in one pack? i live in italy, but i have no idea of what screwdriver and things must(and where)buy.
maybe there is some omnicomprensive pack that could be shipped to italy without problem.
many thanks, i appreciate much
Gtazok
The metal is quite soft in the sliders so it is possible to hit it too hard, but I don't think you're likely to do that if you start softly and keep testing the slider tightness until it's right.
The only 'special' screws are the ones holding the case in, but they can be opened pretty easily with a small flat screwdriver. From what I can remember, the screws inside the phone are just small normal screws.
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omg, this will really need to open all the device!
damn, there is no other way?
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Okay If you do tighten those screws it will help that. I've seen them to be soo bad that if you tilt the device it slides open. Soo basically if you still under warranty send it to your provider other wise follow this guide.
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Hermes/Hermes_Manual_Hyins/Hermes_Service_Manual.pdf
This will guide you through the entire process of taking apart your Hermes. Good luck if you have any questions.
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HI!!
just managed to re-close my hermes (first time i closed it without inserting the last cable LOL...i forgot it, but before powering off he comed to my mind..omg what i have risked not plugging last cable before closing??)
however, i did manage do disassembly only with a standard little screwdriver, not without problems
i just arrived to disassemble the keyb, and get rid on the rails.
I must admit that i NEVER have seen so much dust in a phone(i think mine was re-assembled from another).
i have extracted the rails, the 2, and tried to gentle tapping the indents.No way to go, i tapped *gently*(sometimes a little hard) but i really noticed no improvement
so,i thinked:
"if i change the rails, i will have a perfectly mirrored situation, with the keyboard closed it will be ok, with keyb opened it will be a little loose"
(remember, the keyb was loose when try to open it, not when to close)
So i changed the rails, switching them...
and now it's really better, the phone rarely go off his housing, closed, and go down a little more easily(but is acceptable, because i never do any "forcing" when it's open..)
maybe, with time, the opening will become a problem, with the keyb sliding to close when it's open.
However, maybe this not occour.So for now i'm happy
last thing. I noticed that on the page where the man tried to adjust the rails, he suggested
1)to tap the indents( tried, work very very little)
2)to insert pieces of ribbon
i not tried the second suggestion, because i have not understand WHERE to insert those pieces.Maybe he was suggesting to insert them at the end of the rails? where the carts block? if it is, why? i tried to pull up the small piece of "sheet"(i don't know if it's the correct term, sorry for my bad english ) on the border of the cart where it don't block, but whitout results..so inserting ribbon what improvement would have done?
thanks for the patience to read all my messed up english and many thanks
gtaz
the sliders are becoming loose as the beginning.
someone knows where to buy the sliders as a spare parts?
anyone know?
ok no way?
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anyone know?
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Take a look in this thread & mikechannon's link; if not there, then just pm / ask mikechannon...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298784
galaxys said:
Take a look in this thread & mikechannon's link; if not there, then just pm / ask mikechannon...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298784
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gtazok said:
the sliders are becoming loose as the beginning.
someone knows where to buy the sliders as a spare parts?
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I think you just need to increase those indents a bit more than you did. It is more successful to tap the indents using a small flat blade screwdriver and a small hammer. (Go easy of course and keep testing as you tap. You want a very firm click into place. You should hear the click and it should be really quite hard to move the slider over the indents using your finger tips)
The tapping technique is probably better than just pressing a screwdriver blade onto the indent. Pressing rather than tapping is likely to simply bend the entire metal strip and curve it slightly. This might improve the grip for a while but as the curve gradually straightens out again the slider will just become loose again. Using the tapping method I did mine well over a year ago and I have never had to redo it and it takes a very firm push an audibl clicks to open the device.
(Buying new sliders will not solve your problem. The vast majority, it seems to me were made withy too shallow indents. It may be worth buying new ones if the micro welds have sprung apart however)
Mike
hi
i dismantled my hermes one more time. This time i put out an hammer(a big hammer,indeed)so i "gently" hammered with a flat screwdriver the indents.
result? the keyb is now "really locked" when i open it..but the opening problem remain.
when i try to open it when it is closed, with my finger, i notice that the slipping of the upper left part(seeing the phone from the front) is EVER too loose, i reopened 2 times and tapped "not so gently" the incriminated indent, but i noticed no result. i also tried to exchange the sliders (the lower with the higher) but no improvement was done.
i think that is a defective implementation, because the "centre of pressure" is located in the upper part of the phone, so the phone is like to open more easily when it is closed. Did anyone noticed that?
however, the overall is increased, i think, about 30-40% more tighten as before, and that is no bad.
shame it has no solved my problem, but life it so bad that i can will be live happy with a little loose tytn
thanks
Gtazok
I agree that my the upper left keyboard slider has always been looser than the bottom...
good, that confirm my idea.
let us know if any other noticed the same thing.
thanks
gtazok
Hi! So my Wizard (well, the T-Mobile MDA) had an issue where its USB port became completely detached, so I found the service manual and opened it up to fix it. When I got the back housing off to expose the relevant circuit board, a small metal part flew out, and I can't for the life of me figure out where it belongs. The pictures in the manual aren't high enough resolution for me to be able to tell where this tiny sliver of metal fits in. I've since done the soldering I needed to do and fixed the USB jack, and the phone seems to work fine... I've attached two pictures of the part in question, with the phone for scale on the first one.
Any ideas? If I'm not noticing any functional differences, is it reasonable to just not worry about it? Thanks!
That is the spring clip that holds the stylus in place. I mounts inside the cover over where the stylus goes.
Fantastic. Thanks!
Thanks a million from me too....had the exact same problem yesterday!
Stylist retaining spring
Thanks for the info - I too found this after disassembling my to check and clean the buttons. Although, now it isn't working - rats! I had hoped that finding where this belonged would solve that.
rmcknight said:
That is the spring clip that holds the stylus in place. I mounts inside the cover over where the stylus goes.
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You are in wrong, that part, it is beer bottle opener
Hi Everyone,
I need to replace the screen and digitizer on my phone and I was wondering if anyone could please post a guide on how to do so that would be great. Also, I am a newbie and would like to know the difficulty level of repairing my wing? Any help is greatly appreciated! Great thanks to all in advance. Happy Holidays everyone !
I have the herald service manual... I used it to disassemble my phone so I could spray paint the case
arucard98 said:
I have the herald service manual... I used it to disassemble my phone so I could spray paint the case
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Thank You So Much. I have a quick question, what is the level of difficulty for a newbie?
rpp293 said:
Thank You So Much. I have a quick question, what is the level of difficulty for a newbie?
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It is actually very easy indeed, especially using Mike's tutorials
THe only slightly difficult bit are in getting the semicircular circuit out and back in when you take the whole thing apart but you dont really need to do this when replacing the screen. Dont be put off by the dissembly instructions which show you how to do this. When you have got the screen off, that it IT.
Lastly as others have commented, re-assembly of the keyboard to the base can be a bit tricky unless you are doing it quicly and remember exactly how it came off. I once broke an L shaped 'foot' which I insist mysteriously isnt shown on the YouTube tuturial.
You can even get the digitiser off the screen relatively easy, though there isnt much point in doing this as it isnt worthwhile getting a screen without a digitiser, nor does the digitiser often break before the screen does. (I DO have a Hermes which has a hole in the digitiser, which nevertheless does still work!)
Can this same flex cable be causing my phone to be constantly opening the phoneprogram?
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It is actually very easy indeed, especially using Mike's tutorials
THe only slightly difficult bit are in getting the semicircular circuit out and back in when you take the whole thing apart but you dont really need to do this when replacing the screen. Dont be put off by the dissembly instructions which show you how to do this. When you have got the screen off, that it IT.
Lastly as others have commented, re-assembly of the keyboard to the base can be a bit tricky unless you are doing it quicly and remember exactly how it came off. I once broke an L shaped 'foot' which I insist mysteriously isnt shown on the YouTube tuturial.
You can even get the digitiser off the screen relatively easy, though there isnt much point in doing this as it isnt worthwhile getting a screen without a digitiser, nor does the digitiser often break before the screen does. (I DO have a Hermes which has a hole in the digitiser, which nevertheless does still work!)
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First of all, Thank You for responding. So using Mike's Tuts, and by reading the required info, I will able to easily replace the lcd screen? Also, what is the required reading for a newbie to replace the lcd? Again, Thank you for your help.
Hi there!
With this post I`am starting a new thred about creating something like this:
out from HTC HD2.
IMPOSSIBRU?
NO!
Right now I have:
two broken HTC HD2 (EU and USA models). Both with broken digitizers. EU model is also disassembled
;
this case
(sorry I've already remade it and dont have original photo);
Ideas! many of em. Too many I think.
Why?
I think it would be great to have pda/phone based on your arm. At least it is always in your hand. Or very close to it .
This thread will contain:
photos. I hope I will not forget taking photos of the process;
maybe sketches. I am very bad in painting, but sometimes it is easier to show your idea rather than to describe it;
many text mistakes. I am using half my studied english half google translate >_<
I am looking forward for some support and of course ideas from those, who are interested in this.
So here we go!
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Right now I remade case. I got it without protection screen (it was removed with scissors). Screen from HD2 fits it perfectly!
Of course, I could leave the phone simple in there... NO! It is not the way I want it to! It would be as thin and comfortable as possible!
I've removed the belt with velcro (am I using the right word for it? ) becouse it was designed for forearm and is too long for wrist, Right now I'am resew the velcro becouse I want it to contact arm with soft part, not the hard one.
Wow, I've just bent needle. The case rubber is realy tough
As far as my needle is broken and I want to sleep (it is 01:24 lol), I will describe the basic idea now.
I want to separate screen, motherboard, camera and battery. Place them at different part of the hand to make the whole system smaller.
The screen will be on the upper side of the hand. Screen and only screen.
The case will be fasten with velcro. It will be remade also
This case had a small pocket for keys and/or other things
. And it size is just like motherboard
. So I want to put a motherboard in this pocket and place it on the belt on the back (bottom) side of the hand
. Becouse of it small size I beleve that it wouldn't be broken on the hand.
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Reserved
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Maybe I will use it
your first pic reminds me of the nuclear device in the Predator movies
It might be a bit tricky receiving a call with the phone on your forearm, bt headset?
Look forward to updates on your progress though.
Best of luck
Robbie P said:
your first pic reminds me of the nuclear device in the Predator movies
It might be a bit tricky receiving a call with the phone on your forearm, bt headset?
Look forward to updates on your progress though.
Best of luck
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I found it. Lol, rly look alike (don't have 10 posts to put img here)
The first pic (and basic idea) is taken from the Operation Black Mesa game (HL2 mod)
I think of bt headset or wired headset puted from arm to ear (under clothes it is not so tricky I think). I want to put earphone jack to upper side. I will make some sketches tomorrow.
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I found it. Lol, rly look alike (don't have 10 posts to put img here)
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I found it too
Good looking ...
Great Work ... Deserves a Try ... Thanks Man ...
25.06.2014
So here we go again
Right now a friend of mine is making some sketches about a basic concept (I told that I'm bad in painting)
Here goes the basic concept:
I am thinking about how to make screen wiring longer. I want to make my own wiring for it. Here is example:
The problem is: is has 45 (!!!) connectors. Very tricky, but I think it is possible. I believe. I hope...
Right now I'm thinking how my own wiring can be connected to screen wiring. I'm thinking about disassembling screen connector from motherboard and to install it on my wiring. So screen could be replaced in case.
So right now need ideas: where to place the battery, where to place camera, how to connect all this.
So here goes madness
I've disassemblied screen, where wiring is going, and found this:
I'm goung to cut off the connector from wiring, and solder it to my wiring. Then I will use it to connect wiring to motherboard. On the other side I will silder a connector from motherboard.(I will buy it) so I will make en extantion for standart screen connector
Still alive
Well, I'm not dead yet
Just taking my vacation in Italy.
ASAP I will get back to work.
Stay in touch!
Wow, i love the idea, i would be pleased to do this with my old hd2.
If you complete the project, please write a instruction, i even would pay for something, what looks like
a badass Pipboy from Fallout
Any update on this?