Who was it wanted Blackberry - XPERIA X1 General

Looks like it's coming pretty soon
http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/12/17/virtual-blackberry-os-on-windows-mobile-revealed#comments

Thanks for that, however this is virtualisation and a bit over kill for what I need it for.
I would love some clever person forever if they can figure out how to get the bog-standard BBConnect to work on the Xperia... Anyone up for the challenge?

sabian said:
Thanks for that, however this is virtualisation and a bit over kill for what I need it for.
I would love some clever person forever if they can figure out how to get the bog-standard BBConnect to work on the Xperia... Anyone up for the challenge?
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Hmmm... if it is only blackberry connect that you want... why don't you just install the BBConnect for Windows Mobile on your device?

I've never used Blackberry... so can anyone tell me what the deal with Blackberry connect is? Same as Microsoft Exchange/Direct Push?

msalmank said:
Hmmm... if it is only blackberry connect that you want... why don't you just install the BBConnect for Windows Mobile on your device?
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Because it won't WORK!!!!

artesea said:
Because it won't WORK!!!!
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But why won't that work? BBConnect for Windows Mobile is not just working, but also reported to be working side-by-side with Direct Push enabled as well (though only across two different accounts)
Is it not supported on Xperia?

For whatever reason the Blackberry software disconnects as soon as you try to initiate. It means that you never get a PIN for the X1. If instead you searched or even tried you would have realised this.

artesea said:
For whatever reason the Blackberry software disconnects as soon as you try to initiate. It means that you never get a PIN for the X1. If instead you searched or even tried you would have realised this.
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Like i said, i haven't tried Black Berry connect on my Xperia yet... i know that BBConnect for WinMo is working on most windows mobile devices, so its probably some setting or something...

To get bbconnect to work on a cooked rom for my old tytnii, a registry value had to be edited..
I tried the same value when I received my Xperia to no avail.
bbconnect triggers Blackberry GPRS on the Xperia, it queries the network, connects saying "Network available" the disconnects when "Tunneling denied" (wording is from memory but is the gist). A PIN is never issued to the device, and from the little I know of WinMo, it seems if someone could just figure out the magic value to edit the registry, a PIN would get issued and I'd have Blackberry service back.
Nothing quite as horrible as waiting up to 9 hours for the phone to decide to finally check the POP account that is set up to check every 5 mins...
/rant over/
Someone please be a God and get bbconnect to work! PIN messaging was a neat idea before I found out the new BAS is a vitalisation - Now I have no desire to run BAS, I just want bbconnect back! **whine whine**

sabian said:
Nothing quite as horrible as waiting up to 9 hours for the phone to decide to finally check the POP account that is set up to check every 5 mins...
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Well, you could do it m.... nah i'll leave that, too obvious!
I set mine to check every 15min, it seems to do it when I unlock the screen or go into messaging, good enough for me.

I'm really happy with Direct Push.
On my device i'm using Direct Push to get my company mail. And surprisingly, sometimes i get the notification on my mobile of the e-mail before i get it on my laptop.

@msalmank but that requires an exchange server for your mail, whilst most of us were using BIS with pop3/imap accounts.
For the time being I've been using Seven Beta, it's not as good as the experience I've had with BBConnect, however most mail seems to be pushed pretty quick from GMail.

Related

Clubimate and DirectPush....possible?

hello everyone!
I just flashed my device with the latest jasjar rom available. Small changes, but nonetheless exciting ;-)
I desparately find great advantage in using direct push...and was wondering how i could get it working. I have a couple questions, and would really appreciate it if someone could help me through
1. Is it possible to use the account which is free from clubimate.com?
2. How do i configure direct push to work?
3. Is it really instantaneous, if so, would my device constantly keep pinging or something to report being live and ready?
4. How is it when compared to blackberry? Afaik, i think bberry integrates with the cell phone provider, and an sms-like alert wakes the device for recieving the mail through gprs mode of data transfer. I might be halucinating here with my own theories ;-)
What would be great, is an idiots guide to getting it up and running!!!
Thanks for your time!
S
come on!!!!!! someone must have tried it :-(
S
i dont think imate have done the exchange sp yet, 4smartphone.net is now what im using with my normal pop account.
4$ a month on the lowest setup, easy to setup, and works great.
@dreamtheater, suggest you look at the Clumimate site and ask i-Mate the same questions you posted here.
Use of the Exchange server is free for a year if you have bought an i-Mate device and about $69 if you have one second-hand (pre-used) device and would like to use the Exchange service.
edit: also look at this thread on AK2U which covers battery impact of Push email http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=41659&highlight=review+ak2u
Thanks Carnivor & Jah!
I have another Imate device (a hima)...so i have an exchange account created at clubimate...
I tried getting it to work, and these are the problems that i face currently...
1. There is a constant problem with authentication. It syncs successfully, give it a couple minutes, and on the next sync it asks for the password. When i enter the correct pass, it says its wrong and keeps asking...and theres nothing that i could do. I have to manually log in to my web access through my laptop, hit on "log off", and then retry on my ppc for it to work. This is frustrating
2. I havent found a way to configure it to use my exisiting mail account. Is it possible to do it with other providers (4smartphone.net for instance?). I would typically like to provide my pop3 and smtp details to transact with!
Thanks again, i'll be looking into 4smartphone.net and seeing if it fits my needs, thanks again so very much!
Cheers,
San
im using 4smartphone, to push mail my regular pop account, so much less hassle that having yet another email address to deal with
Carnivor said:
im using 4smartphone, to push mail my regular pop account, so much less hassle that having yet another email address to deal with
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I just got a trial account up and running with 4...
It works good, and i'm just checking around to see if its a practical solution from MS...
I'm not too concerned about higher data transfers (i dont think it does anyway...its just a heartbeat packet sent out once in a while), but i'm definitely worried about my battery life. I'll see how it goes, and write back! Otherwise, it looks like a good solution for me....so thanks for the suggestion m8!
I'm however contemplating which solution to go for, the $4 or the $6!
S

Yahoo Messenger

How come Helio Ocean has Yahoo messenger but there doesnt seem to be a released version for any Windows Mobile device or any other device for that matter?
Took me about ten seconds on google:
http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb
http://mobile.yahoo.com/go/
That is for the Yahoo! Go download link above is if you want to do everything online hope that helps
its not out for most pocket pc's yet
It is now
hiimcliff said:
its not out for most pocket pc's yet
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Just checked. Dowloading it now.
Got it. Don't like it.
It's slow. And no Messenger. It's pretty and does email and those other Yahoo things, but not YIM.
Back to square one.
any update on this yet...?
Sort of, possibly.
nexess said:
How come Helio Ocean has Yahoo messenger but there doesnt seem to be a released version for any Windows Mobile device or any other device for that matter?
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I only browse these forums once in a while, but an update to this that might work out for you guys.
My wife recently got a (Cingular, oops I mean AT&T) Samsung Blackjack and it came with a link to install an instant messaging software package from OZ. I 'tested' the cab file out on my 8125 and it works in portrait mode, but you lose the text entry screen in landscape. It also does not accept touch screen input, as it was designed for a smartphone. The one caviat is that you have to keep and maintain a strong signal to use it effectively.
So if you know someone who has a blackjack, or maybe even another smartphone from cingular...err AT&T you might be able to access the cab from their phone and test it out on yours.
Daniel,
FYI: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=302939&highlight=cingular+messenger

Blackberry Freeware

hey guys.
any1 know of any freeware worth having for window mobile based phone that will take advantage of blackberry connect ie.. blackberry messenger???
Try emoze, its freeware
i must of worded my last thread badly.
I shud of said..
I have blackberry connect on my phone, and is there any way i can have blackberry messenger working on my windows mobile???
Same question - blackberry messenger in WM6 ?
same question, but more indepth
i have a tmo wing, and i have the total internet, is there a way i can dl a bb messenger program where i can send messages to a bb using the bb messenger?
nope you have to have a black berry....
1gb said:
nope you have to have a black berry....
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I heard that BBmessenger has to have a PIN. PINs are "given" when you install BBConnect. Is it a matter of no one creating a program to take advantage of the BBConnect software or what? I also heard that we can receive BBMessenger messages but cannot reply....any truth in that?
If that is the case, there MUST be a workaround for it.....
Any thoughts?

BlackBerry vs Xperia

Hi All,
I'm looking at upgrading my phone. Last night someone stole my BlackBerry 8120... I loved that phone! I was able to do all my work emails, surf facebook and browse the internet fairly easily.
I have read a lot of mixed reviews regarding the X1, however I do seem to like the look of them... A LOT.
Now, am I able to receive all my emails fairly easily and manage them the same as I would with a BlackBerry? Does it have Facebook applications and MSN messenger...
Any "beginners advice" would be great
Thanks,
Amnesia
^^windows live messenger is already preinstalled. u can get the facebook panel and windows live panel in norti's sticky thread.
Amnesia180 said:
Hi All,
I'm looking at upgrading my phone. Last night someone stole my BlackBerry 8120... I loved that phone! I was able to do all my work emails, surf facebook and browse the internet fairly easily.
I have read a lot of mixed reviews regarding the X1, however I do seem to like the look of them... A LOT.
Now, am I able to receive all my emails fairly easily and manage them the same as I would with a BlackBerry? Does it have Facebook applications and MSN messenger...
Any "beginners advice" would be great
Thanks,
Amnesia
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i'm WM beginner from symbian, just owning x1 for third only what I can say is WM need your patience to getting started, lot's of tweaks and softwares to try and to learn. the uses requirement that you asked above can easily done on xperia. anyway, I feel good with my xperia now and it's games much better than symbian one,hehe... plus I reply this message using x1 now^^ so, join us, xda has cookies ))
p.s. what I watched on youtube was the blackberry storm bootup in few seconds! looks miracle....
unfortunately Windows Mobile is much slower than BlackBerry's interface.........
but at least it's the most versatile mobile platform in the world hehe.
ive never owned a blackberry, and the x1a is my first winmo phone too. i like the x1a, only downside is the screen is a little to small for me. i mean the screen resolution is awesome but i sure wish the screen could have been bigger. i mean 3.2" at least. it may not seem like a big difference in numbers between 3 and 3.2 but it is.
if your happy with blackberry's email, i would stick with it and maybe get the storm.
if u dont want touchscreen..then BB Bold is one of the best smartphones out there...very fast interface.
my dad has it.
BlackBerry_for_Pocket_PC
http://www.sems.org/entry.asp?ENTRY_ID=276
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=443125&page=2
http://rapidshare.com/files/195305020/bbconnect_wm6_professional_bb_al_4.0.0.103.cab
http://rapidshare.com/files/195304715/BlackBerry_for_Pocket_PC_Version_2_0_User_Guide.pdf
http://sems.org/content/download/bbc4/bbconnect_wm6_professional_bb.4.0.0.104.cab
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BlackBerry_for_Pocket_PC
http://www.sems.org/entry.asp?ENTRY_ID=276
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=443125&page=2
http://rapidshare.com/files/195305020/bbconnect_wm6_professional_bb_al_4.0.0.103.cab
http://rapidshare.com/files/195304715/BlackBerry_for_Pocket_PC_Version_2_0_User_Guide.pdf
http://sems.org/content/download/bbc4/bbconnect_wm6_professional_bb.4.0.0.104.cab
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Thanks for that link.
So, this will convert my Winmo to BlackBerry Operating System?
I've read through the topic and I didn't see a mention of it working with o2 UK.. Are these things usually easy to install? Would I need to pay o2 for a BlackBerry tariff... or will unlimited internet tariff still be sufficient?
The problem is, I liked my 8120... but I don't want to ugrade to another 8120, that would be silly! I also like the Storm (but not available on o2). However, the Bold is slightly too big for what I'm looking for... (and has a smaller screen than X1).
However, if you're all saying you like X1's, i think I might give it a shot.
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BlackBerry_for_Pocket_PC
http://www.sems.org/entry.asp?ENTRY_ID=276
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=443125&page=2
http://rapidshare.com/files/195305020/bbconnect_wm6_professional_bb_al_4.0.0.103.cab
http://rapidshare.com/files/195304715/BlackBerry_for_Pocket_PC_Version_2_0_User_Guide.pdf
http://sems.org/content/download/bbc4/bbconnect_wm6_professional_bb.4.0.0.104.cab
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Which unfortunately for some unknown reason refuses to work on the X1.
There are other "push" solutions out there including the built in ActiveSync (which works with Hotmail), but if your work server has BES then you might be stuck.
artesea said:
Which unfortunately for some unknown reason refuses to work on the X1.
There are other "push" solutions out there including the built in ActiveSync (which works with Hotmail), but if your work server has BES then you might be stuck.
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No, our work server does not have BES. I just set it up as a normal email account and every 15 minutes it pushes my work emails through.
Surely if the X1 has Winmo I can just set up my email address as normal through the email client, and set it to send/receive every 10 minutes or something?
Just my two pennies worth having had Blackberrys, quite a few Symbians, the iPhone and now my fourth WinMo...
going to WinMo is about getting the flexibility to have almost anything you want, BUT also having the frustrations about bugs, some incompatibilities, flashing new firmwares all the time, etc.
So, if you're patient, willing to use the search button and share you experiences with others, in my view Windows Mobile is the best thing out there today.
Otherwise, get a blackberry or iphone. They rarely crash or go wrong, but are a bit limited.
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No, our work server does not have BES. I just set it up as a normal email account and every 15 minutes it pushes my work emails through.
Surely if the X1 has Winmo I can just set up my email address as normal through the email client, and set it to send/receive every 10 minutes or something?
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You can do that, and if you have an Exchange server its possible to have true push with ActiveSync.
BadTasteUK; thanks for your input. I have had an o2 XDA before... and that was Winmo. I thought it worked pretty well.
To be honest, I'm not a huge techie, and probably won't be tweaking anything major on the phone. However, I do like the flexibility and option of being able to do so... Hopefully the phone won't have a memory leak my BB 8120 did... my text messages would often delete at least once day due to running out of memory on the phone.
i got a bb bold and a xperia, both are excellent devices i find the bb more stable and faster, the xperia is more configurable and there is loads of software for it ie youtube.
at the moment the bb suits my needs so im using that. it all comes down to what you wanna do with the device.
I suppose all I want to do is use the phone mainly for calls, texts, facebook and searching the internet if I need a phone number, or google maps if I'm slightly lost etc.
Other things that I will be doing from time-to-time. Checking email and occasionally replying to them.
Things that would be nice; Youtube.
Overall, I'm sure I will be more than happy with either the BlackBerry Bold OR the X1... However, the X1 is smaller and has a bigger screen... that will be better for me.
PLUS - It's something "different" to the BlackBerry I have been using over the past 12 months... will give me something to play with for endless hours.
Looks like you've made up your mind Amnesia...
... the pun wasn't intended, honest!
Amnesia180 said:
I suppose all I want to do is use the phone mainly for calls, texts, facebook and searching the internet if I need a phone number, or google maps if I'm slightly lost etc.
Other things that I will be doing from time-to-time. Checking email and occasionally replying to them.
Things that would be nice; Youtube.
Overall, I'm sure I will be more than happy with either the BlackBerry Bold OR the X1... However, the X1 is smaller and has a bigger screen... that will be better for me.
PLUS - It's something "different" to the BlackBerry I have been using over the past 12 months... will give me something to play with for endless hours.
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bb internet browser is poor xperia beats it hands down... sounds like xperia is the answer mate

Business phone... MY ASS!!!

I have been waiting for this phone for months now and about 6 days ago i got it.
I wanted to get my contact from my outlook..NOPP
I wanted to connect my laptop to the phone and get a internet connection... NOPP
This is basic business needs. Now i have to remove my sim card and put it in my old SE X1. Whats the point in that?
If anyone at Sony Ericsson reads this... FIXA DETTA NU FÖR HELVETE!!! (Fix this now #%¤#%¤/)
I need a APP so i can share my internet to my PC with USB or with WIFI and i need a APP so i can sync my outlook. Simple as that!!!
As it is now and after looking in Android store the Sony Ericsson X10i is a game phone for kids with rich parents!!!
BIG SYNTAXXX ERROR
Badankan78 said:
I have been waiting for this phone for months now and about 6 days ago i got it.
I wanted to get my contact from my outlook..NOPP
I wanted to connect my laptop to the phone and get a internet connection... NOPP
This is basic business needs. Now i have to remove my sim card and put it in my old SE X1. Whats the point in that?
If anyone at Sony Ericsson reads this... FIXA DETTA NU FÖR HELVETE!!! (Fix this now #%¤#%¤/)
I need a APP so i can share my internet to my PC with USB or with WIFI and i need a APP so i can sync my outlook. Simple as that!!!
As it is now and after looking in Android store the Sony Ericsson X10i is a game phone for kids with rich parents!!!
BIG SYNTAXXX ERROR
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Ok, its a phone running Android.
For a start you can tether your internet connection via USB and you can sync with Outlook
Badankan78 said:
I have been waiting for this phone for months now and about 6 days ago i got it.
I wanted to get my contact from my outlook..NOPP
I wanted to connect my laptop to the phone and get a internet connection... NOPP
This is basic business needs. Now i have to remove my sim card and put it in my old SE X1. Whats the point in that?
If anyone at Sony Ericsson reads this... FIXA DETTA NU FÖR HELVETE!!! (Fix this now #%¤#%¤/)
I need a APP so i can share my internet to my PC with USB or with WIFI and i need a APP so i can sync my outlook. Simple as that!!!
As it is now and after looking in Android store the Sony Ericsson X10i is a game phone for kids with rich parents!!!
BIG SYNTAXXX ERROR
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Where did it say it was a business phone?? If anything it's marketed as a multimedia phone!
Most businesses use Exchange and Moxier(included on phone) does a fine job of syncing both contacts, tasks & e-mail. So i'm happy.
As far as sharing an internet connection that will be possible when the phone is rooted and you can convert it to an WiFi hotspot.
Perhaps there are people using outlook that can help you in that department as that's definitely possible.
Trekster said:
Where did it say it was a business phone?? If anything it's marketed as a multimedia phone!
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Does this URL help?
http://www.sonyericsson.com/business/offering/organisation?cc=se&lc=sv
Trekster said:
As far as sharing an internet connection that will be possible when the phone is rooted and you can convert it to an WiFi hotspot.
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Well, thats what i am talking about. Functions and apps that does not exist as it is now. The phone needs to be rooted and i have to void my warrenty for a need function.
Evostance said:
Ok, its a phone running Android.
For a start you can tether your internet connection via USB and you can sync with Outlook
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I havent found one working guide.
Evostance said:
Ok, its a phone running Android.
For a start you can tether your internet connection via USB and you can sync with Outlook
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How can I tether the internet connection via USB?
un1 said:
How can I tether the internet connection via USB?
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Use the built in PDA NET-app and download the desktop client and you're ready to go!
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Badankan78 said:
Does this URL help?
http://www.sonyericsson.com/business/offering/organisation?cc=se&lc=sv
Well, thats what i am talking about. Functions and apps that does not exist as it is now. The phone needs to be rooted and i have to void my warrenty for a need function.
I havent found one working guide.
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I hadn't seen that page before, it certainly isn't marketed as that in Denmark. Also these are the promises they make on the page:
"Jobbmejl. Personliga mejl. Telefonbok. Musik. Kalender. Business Organisation ger dig allt du behöver i fickan så att du kan
visa bilagor i telefonen
konfigurera push-e-post som Microsoft® Exchange ActiveSync™
lägga in ett lö"
Nowhere does it state "internet sharing" - and only recently Android got native(w. 2.1) ActiveSync compatibility...and Android is still a very long way away from being a true Business oriented OS - not quite up to W6.5 levels yet and WP7 seems to depart the business oriented as well.
Flamso said:
Use the built in PDA NET-app and download the desktop client and you're ready to go!
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Did SE actually include PDANet with the X10? Good job if they did.
If not, you can grab it from here: http://www.junefabrics.com/
saltorio said:
Did SE actually include PDANet with the X10? Good job if they did.
If not, you can grab it from here: http://www.junefabrics.com/
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At least it did with my Swedish phone!
While I understand google wants to lock users into their services not syncing with outlook, both desktop and exchange, both over the air and direct sync, without using "their" cloud, weakens the OS. Love it or hate it Outlook is pretty much a standard and near ubiquitous. They ability to sync with it should be too IMO.
Badankan78 said:
I have been waiting for this phone for months now and about 6 days ago i got it.
I wanted to get my contact from my outlook..NOPP
I wanted to connect my laptop to the phone and get a internet connection... NOPP
This is basic business needs. Now i have to remove my sim card and put it in my old SE X1. Whats the point in that?
If anyone at Sony Ericsson reads this... FIXA DETTA NU FÖR HELVETE!!! (Fix this now #%¤#%¤/)
I need a APP so i can share my internet to my PC with USB or with WIFI and i need a APP so i can sync my outlook. Simple as that!!!
As it is now and after looking in Android store the Sony Ericsson X10i is a game phone for kids with rich parents!!!
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Another clueless idiot starts screaming instead of reading...
...why don't you shut up and ask first?
Sync your miserable outlook to Google then your phone will sync it. If you want to sync to some crappy Exchange Server then use the Moxi client on your phone.
For tethering install either PdaNet or EasyTether Lite or some other app from the market.
God, I hate loudmouthed [email protected]
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szlevi said:
Another clueless idiot starts screaming instead of reading...
...why don't you shut up and ask first?
Sync your miserable outlook to Google then your phone will sync it. If you want to sync to some crappy Exchange Server then use the Moxi client on your phone.
For tethering install either PdaNet or EasyTether Lite or some other app from the market.
God, I hate loudmouthed [email protected]
BIG IDIOT ERROR
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Are you kissing your mother with that mouth? Well, question is, whos the real loudmouth here??? This is a forum, it is for helping others. If its to hard for you then dont visit this forum or stop reading if you dont like what you read.
Well, Easytether did acctually work and was easy to use. Thx for that.
But the suggestion about sync my outlook with a google account is not what i wanted. Call exchange crappy as much as you want its still used by many companys world wide. I am just asking for solutions for my needs and what i am used to and allowed to. I dont care what you use or how you do it. My thread was about my needs, not yours. I want to sync my outlook with my phone by bluetooth or USB cable. If you ever worked on a big company you would know that the IT/IS deparment only allows you to use validated applications on a company computer.
I hope you realize what i just said about this beeing a forum and this forum is for helping other people not calling other people idiots and [email protected]
Calm down people,its Friday!
Yeah, this is one of the issues that everyone was beating up the iphone for (weak in the business market without remote wipe, snycing issues, etc.) since its introduction and in my mind the same applies here. Android should be able to sync with outlook directly, both exchange and desktop, its a fundemental need for many as far as business use goes. That the program is or isnt good doesnt matter because its not about what we want anyways. If it was about what I wanted a naked supermodel would drop by every so often and sync my phone for me.
You can export your contacts from Outlook into a CSV file. You can then import this CSV file into your GMail account (create one if you don't have one). Then add this GMail account to the X10 and it will copy over your contacts as well.
I don't think think there is a solution for any Android device to sync with Microsoft Outlook...sorry buddy. To be honest, if Outlook syncing was a priority:
a) should've done the investigative work before purchasing
b) just get an awesome windows mobile device as it will have a more complete ActiveSync feature set, get an HTC HD2
emuneee said:
You can export your contacts from Outlook into a CSV file. You can then import this CSV file into your GMail account (create one if you don't have one). Then add this GMail account to the X10 and it will copy over your contacts as well.
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this is exactly what i did. took less than five minutes to get everything sorted. copying to/from sim is annoying and it screws up if ur contacts have several phone numbers
Some of us did our homework and in fact are still doing it right now, I dont have a android handset yet. Lets consider my options. I hate where MS is going with winmo7, if I wanted an iphone I could have bought one a long time ago. Cant stand the restrictions. Not really against 6.X though. Had a bunch of em already though and long for a change. About the only one I would consider is the HD2 except the form factor is a wee bit large for me. Not a deal breaker there but the lack of 3G is pretty much a killer. So winmo is out, iphone is out. I would probably pick up an N900 but there again you have a lack of 3G which in a modern smartphone can be painful. Thats out. I like palm but neither form factor works for me, same issue with crackberry. This pretty much leaves android which only has one major gripe for me, the lack of proper outlooks support which I have already stated is IMO a basic need for many business users and something which should be out of the box on any smartphone. Now I am not saying you or anyone should agree with these things but this is my view. I find it amusing that pretty much everyone hacked on the iphone over its lack of proper business support and the notoriously obstinate Jobs has been kicked and dragged into increasing the those capabilities with each release to where with the upcoming release that support will be fairly rounded. Seems to me somebody an awful lot of people must want it to get that prick to relent. For my purposes I dont need to sync anything but contacts so I can work around this weakness in the platform and will probably pick up the N1 when my feet hit the beach in a few days. That doesnt mean I am going to pretend everything is all rosy and if they dont fix this and I find it too annoying to to work around I will move on. My mission in life isnt to fill googles pockets. So there it is, perhaps we can converse without the presumption of stupidity. BTW, some of us wont be using gmail at all, shocking, isnt it?
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Yeah, this is one of the issues that everyone was beating up the iphone for (weak in the business market without remote wipe, snycing issues, etc.) since its introduction and in my mind the same applies here. Android should be able to sync with outlook directly, both exchange and desktop, its a fundemental need for many as far as business use goes. That the program is or isnt good doesnt matter because its not about what we want anyways. If it was about what I wanted a naked supermodel would drop by every so often and sync my phone for me.
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That pretty much my issue here. The supermodel comes over but she cant sync my phone directly with my outlook over USB anymore.
Another clueless idiot starts screaming instead of reading...
...why don't you shut up and ask first?
Sync your miserable outlook to Google then
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Are you kissing your mother with that mouth? Well, question is, whos the real loudmouth here??? This is a forum, it is for helping others. If its to hard for you then dont visit this forum or stop reading if you dont like what you read.
Well, Easytether did acctually work and was easy to use. Thx for that.
But the suggestion about sync my outlook with a google account is not what i wanted. Call exchange crappy as much as you want its still used by many companys world wide. I am just asking for solutions for my needs and what i am used to and allowed to. I dont care what you use or how you do it. My thread was about my needs, not yours. I want to sync my outlook with my phone by bluetooth or USB cable. If you ever worked on a big company you would know that the IT/IS deparment only allows you to use validated applications on a company computer.
I hope you realize what i just said about this beeing a forum and this forum is for helping other people not calling other people idiots and [email protected]
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Oh boy... I DO work for a company. as the head of the IT - hence my comment.
FYI I *know* it works as I said and it's nothing new, for ***** sake... and of course, you know next to nothing bout policies and solutions, it seems

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