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upper part is shaky when keyboard is opened. Normal?

The part where the display is becomes shaky a bit when you slide open the keyboard
Is that something that I should be concerned about or is it normal?

I think it's normal. I've examined four X1a's and they all had a small amount of play in the top part of the slider when open.

Mine has also a slight play to it (back and forth). Noticed this on the Raphael as well.
Keep in mind though, that the slider is only supported by two metal hooks situated (when keyboard out) at one end of the screen. So guess it's normal.
The play will also increase as the phone gets older (wear and tear). As long as the screen doesn't fall off I guess it's ok.
To prolong the life though, I try to be gentle when opening and support the screen when it's open (to reduce the wear and tear).

Mine's shaky when closed. Went to the service centre thrice and everytime they said it was normal.

Mine is a bit shaky as well. even when closed, but afer giving it some thought, i guess it impossible to make it totaly solid, at least with this form. i annoyes me, though. pressing the keys and you feel how it bends a little. when opened, I am afraid to press the little x or soething else on top of the screen, at least without supporting the lower side with my other hand.

Jabe said:
Mine is a bit shaky as well. even when closed, but afer giving it some thought, i guess it impossible to make it totaly solid, at least with this form. i annoyes me, though. pressing the keys and you feel how it bends a little. when opened, I am afraid to press the little x or soething else on top of the screen, at least without supporting the lower side with my other hand.
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I support it when open, cause it's impossible to make it solid (@least not in this form factor). It's easy enough for me though.. cause the phone fits in my palm so easy (and way easier than other phones I've had - But I do miss the tilting screen from Kaiser though..then again, that needed major support when tilted)

I am new to this board, hello everybody!
I have my X1 for a week now. On mine the top part is shaky when closed, it moves ~1mm up/down opposite of the slider hinges. Anyone else?
It annoys me, but I hope it is okay and won't get worse.
Greets and have Fun with Your X1s!

i think it's normal. I noticed that as soon as I took it out of the box and was very worried. it's my first slider phone and i didn't know what was normal and what was not. reading threads like this was very reassuring for me. I just hope it won't get loose, if it stays like that, then i'm happy.

It seems really solid to me. No movement at all unless I push on it. I’m guessing it will loosen up over time.

same here, closed and opened. When I press gently in opposite corners when closed, it waggles slightly. I got annoyed/worried about this after purchasing the phone few months ago and went to the store to ask about it. I got to test three different X1s and they were all similar, so it's not a problem (or at least it's by the design
A bit annoying still though, especially when using touchscreen with your fingers. Mostly when pressing on the right side of the screen (down-right being the worst), it waggles slightly under your fingers.

Same here too. About 1mm up and down when closed, and when open, same.
And yes Jent, it does waggle a bit. Try using the phone when you're lying in bed, and hold the phone upside down... every press will move the screen about 1mm and it gets annoying very quickly.

i also have the problem with the upper corner^^

Xperia windage in upper sides. Is this normal after 1 month?

HI,
I have problem with the moving part of the X1 rattles, mostly in upper - right side /near Volume button/.
Is this normal?
When phone is closed and I press lightly upped and bottom side of my Xperia - I see that phone clatter. This is mostly in right corner, but nearly the same is also in other left upped corner.
I use my Xperia from one month.
I don't have software problems but i don't know is this normal or I must go to repair?
Thanks

Is this normal or I must go to repair?
Thanks again

What exactly do you mean by "windage"?

SquidgyB said:
What exactly do you mean by "windage"?
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I'm also curious about this, because the only applicable definition of "windage" here would be air friction preventing him from pushing the button down easily, but I highly doubt that this is happening. Maybe he means erosion? I could imagine a way for one to come to a "windage" type of word for describing a similar effect to how wind can erode things.

I think he might be German -there is the word "Verwindung" which means somewhat like deflection in case of twisting. In my opinion he has the problem that when he presses onto to upper right corner the case the lower left corner travels up a little bit which is normal due to the mounting of the slider mechanism.

He means that the moving part of the X1 rattles. I guess that it is a little loose between the screen and the keyboard and when pressing it with its fingers he feels that the screen is moving downwards.
Unfortunately that's the case with mine, it has a very tiny rattle when I press the screen (tiny but I can feel it very easily) which is annoying.
I guess I will have to live with it.
Any other experiences about it?

Yes, I mean the moving part of the X1 rattles. Two parts: bottom part with keyboard and part with display - knocking, when I press them lightly.
I'm sorry for my bad English.
Thanks XavierGr!
When I press some of buttons I feel this move....
Maybe after few months this will be horrible.

Same with my X1. Have it for more than 2 month now and treated it like a raw egg...just wait and see...

anmeldung said:
Maybe after few months this will be horrible.
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If the rattle gets worse we are doomed. This thing will eventually break apart if it continues to rattle more and more.
I hope it stays as it is, it's a bit annoying but I can live with it. Time will tell...

Few questions about X2

As a fresh owner I have a few questions:
1 - The lower right corner of the front panel wobbles (?), moves slightly on touch, I can press it for about 1mm (see the attached screen). It is especially annoying when pressing OK or dial off (or whatever the button is called). Is it normal?
2 - The screen has a slight green tone (hue), can anything be done with it?
3 - LCD has noticeable light leaking near the bottom side, again, is it normal? (Well, the screen does not work now anyway, gotta flash the phone.)
Thanks

Biges said:
As a fresh owner I have a few questions (too lazy to search):
1 - The upper right corner of the front panel is flimsy (?), moves slightly on touch. It is normal?
2 - The screen has a slight green tone (hue), can anything be done with it?
3 - LCD has noticable ligh leaking near the bottom side, again, is it normal? (Well, the screen does not work now anyway, gotta flash the phone.)
Thanks
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(1) I have no issues with this, seams fine on mine
(2) I cannot notice any hue, maybe you have a faulty unit given the blue colour and the movement of the panel.
(3) Yes LCD light is noticible, I also get leaks through the optical pad when I have the notification LED's on

1. I got some small loose on the front pannel upper area, it's especially felt when You hold the phone in one hand and work with Your thumb pressing the screen or just put the phone to You ear. You feel then the pannel moves a bit down. Maybe thats normal or just the build quality is not so good at all.

sounds like you have a faulty one. mine is solid as a rock. the loose screen and the green hue could be related. there shouldnt be any discolouration at all and i can only see it getting worse to be honest. where did you get it? if its somewhere reputable then id take it back and ask for a decent one while its still in warranty.
i do have tiny bit of light leakage near the buttons, that does seem common.

Mine is well made too, no hardware problems.

I have a silver one, solid as a rock, light leaks are present though...

Bottom right corner loose?

Can any others confirm if this occurs on your device. With the keyboard out if I press the bottom right corner to the keyboard portion I hear a distinct sound like its loose or something..

Mine creaks when I push that area, I'm not to worried about it any slider phone I've had has done something like that when the keyboard is out.

Yes that's exactly the sound I was referring too. Creaks... Any others confirm? As long as others are experiencing this I won't worry too much...

like rsacipher said, just about every slider I've seen creaks a little bit. if that's all it is i wouldn't worry about it. however if the sliding screen feels loose or if there's a gap between it and the main body then i'd definitely have it replaced.

Questionable build quality or is it just me?

I dont know if its just my phone but try this. Close the phone, now from the bottom it seems that the left side has no gap and doesn't move when u press it down. However on the right side there is a slight gap and i press it down the phone will move. Also when i slide the phone out and use the windows keys the upper half touches the bottom half of the phone and make this faint clicking sound which is really annoying. Does your phones do that or is it just mine?

i've had three DVPs and each of them were built just fine. the slider worked flawlessly and there weren't any uneven gaps.

no gaps here and i haven't seen any for the ones we got at work - about 10.. but i wasn't really looking for it.

Fasty12 said:
I dont know if its just my phone but try this. Close the phone, now from the bottom it seems that the left side has no gap and doesn't move when u press it down. However on the right side there is a slight gap and i press it down the phone will move. Also when i slide the phone out and use the windows keys the upper half touches the bottom half of the phone and make this faint clicking sound which is really annoying. Does your phones do that or is it just mine?
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Mine has a slight gap on the right side too.

I question the build Quality of the venue pro as well.
I've gone through 6 of them and they all had horrible build quality.
I assume most people have crappy DVP as well, they just don't know it until they've seen what horrible quality is.
Get it?
For example, most people dont know they have bad vision until it is corrected by wearing glasses.