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where should I do!

I see slot of people flashing their phones but I dont see why.what are the perks of flashing and would it void my warranty with t mobile

The purpose of flashing is so you can get new roms that are created by developers which mostly run better than the stock roms. Yes you do void your warranty if you have a HSPL (Hard SPL) but you can return it to stock SPL if you need to use the warranty. It will act like it has never been there.
Its up to you what you want to do.

hnmmm i see. is there something that other roms offer that others don't?

Yes, the operate without all the fail that that stock rom is. Quicker, Smoother, and just more awesome. Try kumars rom out. its good stuff!!!

hmmm ok i meant app and widget/feature wise

sherlockpwnz said:
hmmm ok i meant app and widget/feature wise
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Yes, tons. Just imagine everything you've added onto your phone with cabs would already be placed on the phone from the start. Having them already "cooked" in keeps the phone from lagging and makes it mush smoother. I had a lot of lag and freezing problems with the stock t mobile rom but since switching to Energy roms I haven't had any issues. For a list of apps and programs already cooked in just check out the official rom thread of the rom your eying.

i don't thinkid be able to cuz I couldn't really understand any of the tutorials on how too doo it sad day for me

does anyone wanna help me out here or is it just too much to explain. I'm just worried about bricking my phone

What's to explain.
Go and get the HSPL for your phone-put phone into active sync with computer-run HSPL.
Download a rom for the phone-load the file LEOIMG onto the main directory of the memory card-put phone into bootloader-ROM loads-done.
That's it.

but what if i need to hard reset or something and who can give me a list of roms that are compatible i don't understand how to find them

There is a thread stickied on the top if this section listing T-Mobile compatible roms. If it says T-Mobile,T-Mous, T-Mo etc, or 1024 leo it is compatible. The thing is T-Mobile hd2's hsve 1024 mb of flash memory while the Euro hd2 has 512 mb. If you flash a 512 rom you will have a brick. There are some really good threads stickied about flashing roms, tweaks and such. Read them a few times to get an idea of terms and procedures.
BTW... YOU and ONLY YOU are responsible if you brick your phone.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653114
List of compatible roms.

yes i agree man which is why i wanna get all the details about my phone cuz i chose to flash it. i shall look over it. thanks much guys. would anyone be willing totteach me various things or point me to such places where i can learn to make a theme for myself or possibly make one for me?

Uhmm compatible roms..........Maybe in the T-Mobile section I linked to the one that says "T-Mobile USA HD2 ROM Development"? Granted there are other ROMs in the Standard Leo section as well as other site out on the net but you have to sift through to be sure they are compatible.

anyway what if i need to hard reset will it install my stock tmo rom or will it install custom rom again.

It would reinstall the ROM that you have loaded.

ok a few more questions and I'm done. will tmobile still notify me of updates and where can i find the stock roms in case i need to warranty my phone

Have you even opened the ROM development section? If you did you would have seen the first sticky is all the different stock ROM's that are around. As for updates from T-Mobile yes you will still receive messages from T-Mobile if they put out an update. If you want to load an update you can. If you ever have issues and need warranty work yes you can flash back to a stock ROM and stock HSPL.

haven't cuz it takes forever to load cuz i only have internet on my phone. sorry

you do realize that you need an actual computer to flash your phone right? You will have an amazing adventure cracking your phone with no internet access on an actual computer. Its not impossible but good luck..
This thread seems to have :facepalms: and written all over it.
Read up and read more. Then when you think you have an idea what to do, read again!

whats the whole point?

whats the whole point of FLASH. i want to do that to my phone but what will it do to the phone. can someone explain to me about FLASH.

Are you talking about flashing a ROM? If so the point is to get the newest or most stable build of WinMo.
Go to the ROM section and start reading the stickies. If you have a T-Mob HD2 you will want to pay particular attention to what ROM you do flash. There are two versions of the HD2, the European version on the T-Mobile version. The T-Mob version has a full gig of internal memory and a 1 gig processor while the European version only has 512 of memory and a smaller processor. If you make the mistake of flashing the wrong ROM onto the wrong phone you have an expensive paper weight.

yeah im talking about flashing rom. does this help the phone on working fast?

yes it does.

Wil Badger said:
Are you talking about flashing a ROM? If so the point is to get the newest or most stable build of WinMo.
Go to the ROM section and start reading the stickies. If you have a T-Mob HD2 you will want to pay particular attention to what ROM you do flash. There are two versions of the HD2, the European version on the T-Mobile version. The T-Mob version has a full gig of internal memory and a 1 gig processor while the European version only has 512 of memory and a smaller processor. If you make the mistake of flashing the wrong ROM onto the wrong phone you have an expensive paper weight.
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Sorry to correct you, but the Tmous has also 576MB RAM instead of 1024MB RAM, the European version does have 448MB RAM default, but after flashing a Tmous radio the ram can be unlocked so i has also 576MB RAM. I think you are meaning ROM instead of RAM
For me it's the RAM / Random Access Memory that counts since it's the memory you need to use in operation in contrary to ROM / Read Only Memory which is only needed to store your OS/Bootloader etc.
And cpu wise they got the same Qualcomm Snapdragon 8250B chipset/cpu running @ 1Ghz.
Ow and TS, if you are asking yourself what a FLASH is ? please don't try it if you got zero knowledge/understanding/informing yourself about flashing (be it pc,psp,hd2 etc.) that won't be such a good idea

Take a look at these threads:
Flashing a ROM (International HD2)
Flashing a ROM (TMOUS HD2)
Flashing a new Radio ROM
Complete HD2 guide for flashing (Video's included)
It's a lot to go over, but if you are going to flash your device I highly recommend you know what you are doing. A mistake can mean a very expensive paperweight.

To answer you question on the "whole point" thing..
There are several reasons one might want to flash their device.
I flashed hspl2 at first because I didn't like T-Mobil's lame pink pre-bootscreen. Then more recently I flashed a new Radio ROM.
Many (perhaps most) people flash "cooked" ROMs built by other members of xda (or themselves) which include their favorite apps, tweaks, themes, lockscreens, etc. already built into the ROM. Custom ROM's can also include updates to the Winmo OS.
Another reason is to change the Radio. The Radio ROM (not the FM radio) is the software that controls how your device handles data and phone connections.
Many people, including myself, flash a different Radio. Personally, I have found that my battery life, signal, and data connections have dramatically improved after doing this. You might also need to flash a new radio if you are going to try out the new(ish) android port.

Ya sorry for the mistakes. Thought for some reason the Euro version had a smaller proc as well. As for the RAM-ROM thing ya just wasn't thinking as I typed.

thanks for the information guys. i have alot of reading to do. so u guys recommand for me to flash after i read the information???

elpirruris said:
thanks for the information guys. i have alot of reading to do. so u guys recommand for me to flash after i read the information???
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Well what ROM you want to flash solely depends on what your wants/needs are. I personally prefer a clean 6.5.5 build (finger friendly/start buttons on bottom) and my current ROM is Cloudy 1.5
You will first need to flash HSPL3 before attempting to flash anything else. This will protect you from bricking your phone from a bad flash and also enables you to flash your phone from SD Card instead of USB cable and PC etc.
Once you have chosen your rom just stick the nbh file (rename to LEOIMG.nbh) onto root of SD and boot into loader.
Read all the needed info before attempting anything.

Going from Win Mo 6.5 to Android

Gents,
Apologies if I have missed this in another thread (I did do a search!) or if this si the wrong forum
Has anyone gone from Win Mo 6.5 to Android on their HTC HD2? Was it easy to do? What files would I need to back up etc? And is it worth doing?

Duff33 said:
Gents,
Apologies if I have missed this in another thread (I did do a search!) or if this si the wrong forum
Has anyone gone from Win Mo 6.5 to Android on their HTC HD2? Was it easy to do? What files would I need to back up etc? And is it worth doing?
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Apologies accepted since you missed alot of threads ! Most of us have Android on our HD2's .
It was very easy but you must do somethings first to guarantee a working Android on your HD2 . (Read the Guide on my Sig. )
You don't need to backup anything as the current Android doesn't touch your internal device memory (i.e. WinMo system files) It will run off your sd card.
Have fun

kawazaki said:
Apologies accepted since you missed alot of threads ! Most of us have Android on our HD2's .
It was very easy but you must do somethings first to guarantee a working Android on your HD2 . (Read the Guide on my Sig. )
You don't need to backup anything as the current Android doesn't touch your internal device memory (i.e. WinMo system files) It will run off your sd card.
Have fun
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I ran EVO android from SD without having to mod my OEM phone.
Just make sure you do follow the directions and update the kernel as some may leave the kernel out of the bucket of legs and thighs.
It did mess with my time and date everytime I booted back into the phones OS but everything else pretty much was the same.
No speed improvements, may be a wee faster if loaded on phones memory.
Evertything the EVO Android had I had on my OEM phone, just different names on some apps.
Once I got my WM6.5 setup properly Android was usless to me.
Like linux it is a sloooooooooo booter. That is the deal breaker for me.
I like 30 second boots at the most. 20 seconds for a desktop is slow!

HD2 will live!!
HD2 with its name LEO is really a king to the jungle out there with its new era of a great processor, an outstanding screen and a sexy look!!
Wm 6.5 is fine but android really excells in combining wm and ios and making a neat interface with user friendly handling!
I'm so meticulous with my device and using stock rom and radio, i tried android from one of the great builds done by MDJ (thanx a lot to him)
It doesn't do any harm coz i didn't need to upgrade rom nor ram and everything is dealt with thru sdcard
if u don't like it; just format or erase the android folders or just leave it there if u have a big memory
it's awesome by all means!! give it a try u wont loose anything!!
TMOUS stock rom 2.10 and radio 2.08

sevoflurane said:
HD2 with its name LEO is really a king to the jungle out there with its new era of a great processor, an outstanding screen and a sexy look!!
Wm 6.5 is fine but android really excells in combining wm and ios and making a neat interface with user friendly handling!
I'm so meticulous with my device and using stock rom and radio, i tried android from one of the great builds done by MDJ (thanx a lot to him)
It doesn't do any harm coz i didn't need to upgrade rom nor ram and everything is dealt with thru sdcard
if u don't like just format or erase the android folders or just leave it there if u have a big memory
it's awesome by all means!! give it try u wont loose anything!!
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Hi there
Are you saying, that you've managed to run adndroid on your leo with stock Rom and radio? Thing is, that I would also like to try android on my handset, but I'm too scared to hurt it in any way - hence not too keen on changing rom / radio - which seem to be only way according to info I've managed to find so far
Would you care to share your phone configuration, to see what you're running?
Many thanks.

krzyzag said:
I would also like to try android on my handset, but I'm too scared to hurt it in any way - hence not too keen on changing rom / radio - which seem to be only way according to info I've managed to find so far
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Your current configuration won't run Android. It needs a radio of at least 2.08.50 (MUST be a .50, NOT a .51!!!) The ROM is irrelevant - only the radio matters to Android.
There is an official ROM upgrade available that takes you up to a 3.14 ROM with a 2.15.50 radio, but I don't know if you can use that without HSPL as you have a branded handset.
It may be possible to just upgrade the radio, from the HD2 ROMs thread, and leave your Windows ROM as it is.

Duff33 said:
Gents,
Apologies if I have missed this in another thread (I did do a search!) or if this si the wrong forum
Has anyone gone from Win Mo 6.5 to Android on their HTC HD2? Was it easy to do? What files would I need to back up etc? And is it worth doing?
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They are two separate systems - WinMo in the phone's ROM and Android on the Phone's SD Card.
The only real requirement is that your RADIO must be at least 2.08.50 (any one higher than that with a .50 will do). So you need to know what software you already have:
Settings -> About phone -> Software information. Here you will see the Rom, Radio versions. If the radio is not correct, then we'll go through the procedure on how to update it.
The chefs in the Android ROM section give details on what you download and how to set it up.
As for backing up, there should be no need to (as they are independent systems), but better safe than sorry; install SPB Backup. Even if you weren't thinking of running Android, having a backup is always advisable.

mismatch
I have a bootscreen on WM that shows 3.14 as the ROM but in Settings/phone/ software information it still shows 1.48 and a date of 09/29/10.
Is this normal? does this mean my upgrade failed?
Radio release is same on both - 2.15.50.14

modified2 said:
I have a bootscreen on WM that shows 3.14 as the ROM but in Settings/phone/ software information it still shows 1.48 and a date of 09/29/10.
Is this normal? does this mean my upgrade failed?
Radio release is same on both - 2.15.50.14
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Don't worry about what is says when Windows is running. The value shown then is from the registry, so it can be changed. Have you done a restore from a backup application by any chance?

[Q] WinMo6.5 for an old device

Hello!
One of my friends brought me an old Yakumo delta 300 GPS 2L PDA from Germany, to install a new WinMo on it.
Does anybody know how to do it? I really know nothing about doing such things, and all I could find about updating such a device was a german forum, with outdated links.
It would be very important for me! Thanks!

to build a 6.5rom for those devices u should make many files
one of the most importantes is NK.EXE that u can easily put that in ur rom with new Ervius kitchen

Problem is that I don't know how to do so. I have no experience in Windows Mobile, that's why I am asking for your help.

fonix232 said:
Problem is that I don't know how to do so. I have no experience in Windows Mobile, that's why I am asking for your help.
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Its not so simple since you aren't exprenced with Windows Mobile devices. Its highly possible to brick the device easily if something goes wrong.
First the device should be CID unlocked so that you can flash custom ROMs.
Second you will need to find custom ROMs for it or else if you want to cook, you either need to get a stock ROM of it so that you can dump it, replace its files (i.e SYS and XIP), recook it using suitable kitchens, finally flash it but its not over. There are many thing to do. And I say again its possible to brick the device if something goes wrong.
I would better suggest to stay with what ever it has.
Since HTC is very popular, we research lot and minimize risks before doing anything but your device seems very old and not known much so its risky job.
As Mr.zeus said, NK.EXE is just a part or file of/in the kernel aka XIP. You will need many things to cook a ROM. Stock ROM of your device would be good for start.
Thanks...
Best Regards

Well, thank you very much.
Then looks like, I am shot here :S
Can you please give me any navigation system what should work on this device, and has maps for Hungary, Germany, Austria?

i can tell u one thing...my htc wizard is running wm6.5.3...so it is quite possible to hav new os on old fone.....

[Q] Rom version for NAND flashing

Dear XDA-dev's & Users
Since a few days i have a HTC HD2
and i'm looking to flash it towards an Android Gingerbread.
i have done some flashing before on my nokia N97, and dont fear 'difficult' manuals.
As of reading some fora i'm willing to flash the NAND instead of a SD-rom (wich i think to be slower). no way i'm going back to WM6.5
however that's also where my 'ignorance' kicks in:
i'm severly suspecting that an SD-rom cant be used as a NAND-rom
is this true?
What is the difference between a ZIP-ROm and a NAND-rom/SD-rom?
The os i found most interesting doesnt list a rom, how do i know if its suited to be used as a NAND rom (i've read some using a partition on the sd card so i'm afraid its an SDrom
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1062881
and a final (probably expert obvious) question:
whats the exact benefit/ function of Clockwork/MAGLDR? (somethimes its even viewed as a mod instead of a program as stated in manuals)

Gorlimtouk said:
Dear XDA-dev's & Users
Since a few days i have a HTC HD2
and i'm looking to flash it towards an Android Gingerbread.
i have done some flashing before on my nokia N97, and dont fear 'difficult' manuals.
As of reading some fora i'm willing to flash the NAND instead of a SD-rom (wich i think to be slower). no way i'm going back to WM6.5
however that's also where my 'ignorance' kicks in:
i'm severly suspecting that an SD-rom cant be used as a NAND-rom
is this true?
What is the difference between a ZIP-ROm and a NAND-rom/SD-rom?
The os i found most interesting doesnt list a rom, how do i know if its suited to be used as a NAND rom (i've read some using a partition on the sd card so i'm afraid its an SDrom
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1062881
and a final (probably expert obvious) question:
whats the exact benefit/ function of Clockwork/MAGLDR? (somethimes its even viewed as a mod instead of a program as stated in manuals)
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Hi,
You are right in that you cannot use an sd-rom as a nand rom.
My suggestion is to start reading up on the subjects you need to start installing roms.
Please start reading here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893948
Read also in my sig,guide number 2.
Finally,here is a list of current roms to choose from:
http://android.hd2roms.com/
The more you read,the more you will learn,the fewer mistakes you will make

Thanks
Thanks dude, I was also looking for similar information.