[Q] Rom version for NAND flashing - HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera

Dear XDA-dev's & Users
Since a few days i have a HTC HD2
and i'm looking to flash it towards an Android Gingerbread.
i have done some flashing before on my nokia N97, and dont fear 'difficult' manuals.
As of reading some fora i'm willing to flash the NAND instead of a SD-rom (wich i think to be slower). no way i'm going back to WM6.5
however that's also where my 'ignorance' kicks in:
i'm severly suspecting that an SD-rom cant be used as a NAND-rom
is this true?
What is the difference between a ZIP-ROm and a NAND-rom/SD-rom?
The os i found most interesting doesnt list a rom, how do i know if its suited to be used as a NAND rom (i've read some using a partition on the sd card so i'm afraid its an SDrom
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1062881
and a final (probably expert obvious) question:
whats the exact benefit/ function of Clockwork/MAGLDR? (somethimes its even viewed as a mod instead of a program as stated in manuals)

Gorlimtouk said:
Dear XDA-dev's & Users
Since a few days i have a HTC HD2
and i'm looking to flash it towards an Android Gingerbread.
i have done some flashing before on my nokia N97, and dont fear 'difficult' manuals.
As of reading some fora i'm willing to flash the NAND instead of a SD-rom (wich i think to be slower). no way i'm going back to WM6.5
however that's also where my 'ignorance' kicks in:
i'm severly suspecting that an SD-rom cant be used as a NAND-rom
is this true?
What is the difference between a ZIP-ROm and a NAND-rom/SD-rom?
The os i found most interesting doesnt list a rom, how do i know if its suited to be used as a NAND rom (i've read some using a partition on the sd card so i'm afraid its an SDrom
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1062881
and a final (probably expert obvious) question:
whats the exact benefit/ function of Clockwork/MAGLDR? (somethimes its even viewed as a mod instead of a program as stated in manuals)
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Hi,
You are right in that you cannot use an sd-rom as a nand rom.
My suggestion is to start reading up on the subjects you need to start installing roms.
Please start reading here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893948
Read also in my sig,guide number 2.
Finally,here is a list of current roms to choose from:
http://android.hd2roms.com/
The more you read,the more you will learn,the fewer mistakes you will make

Thanks
Thanks dude, I was also looking for similar information.

Related

Going from Win Mo 6.5 to Android

Gents,
Apologies if I have missed this in another thread (I did do a search!) or if this si the wrong forum
Has anyone gone from Win Mo 6.5 to Android on their HTC HD2? Was it easy to do? What files would I need to back up etc? And is it worth doing?
Duff33 said:
Gents,
Apologies if I have missed this in another thread (I did do a search!) or if this si the wrong forum
Has anyone gone from Win Mo 6.5 to Android on their HTC HD2? Was it easy to do? What files would I need to back up etc? And is it worth doing?
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Apologies accepted since you missed alot of threads ! Most of us have Android on our HD2's .
It was very easy but you must do somethings first to guarantee a working Android on your HD2 . (Read the Guide on my Sig. )
You don't need to backup anything as the current Android doesn't touch your internal device memory (i.e. WinMo system files) It will run off your sd card.
Have fun
kawazaki said:
Apologies accepted since you missed alot of threads ! Most of us have Android on our HD2's .
It was very easy but you must do somethings first to guarantee a working Android on your HD2 . (Read the Guide on my Sig. )
You don't need to backup anything as the current Android doesn't touch your internal device memory (i.e. WinMo system files) It will run off your sd card.
Have fun
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I ran EVO android from SD without having to mod my OEM phone.
Just make sure you do follow the directions and update the kernel as some may leave the kernel out of the bucket of legs and thighs.
It did mess with my time and date everytime I booted back into the phones OS but everything else pretty much was the same.
No speed improvements, may be a wee faster if loaded on phones memory.
Evertything the EVO Android had I had on my OEM phone, just different names on some apps.
Once I got my WM6.5 setup properly Android was usless to me.
Like linux it is a sloooooooooo booter. That is the deal breaker for me.
I like 30 second boots at the most. 20 seconds for a desktop is slow!
HD2 will live!!
HD2 with its name LEO is really a king to the jungle out there with its new era of a great processor, an outstanding screen and a sexy look!!
Wm 6.5 is fine but android really excells in combining wm and ios and making a neat interface with user friendly handling!
I'm so meticulous with my device and using stock rom and radio, i tried android from one of the great builds done by MDJ (thanx a lot to him)
It doesn't do any harm coz i didn't need to upgrade rom nor ram and everything is dealt with thru sdcard
if u don't like it; just format or erase the android folders or just leave it there if u have a big memory
it's awesome by all means!! give it a try u wont loose anything!!
TMOUS stock rom 2.10 and radio 2.08
sevoflurane said:
HD2 with its name LEO is really a king to the jungle out there with its new era of a great processor, an outstanding screen and a sexy look!!
Wm 6.5 is fine but android really excells in combining wm and ios and making a neat interface with user friendly handling!
I'm so meticulous with my device and using stock rom and radio, i tried android from one of the great builds done by MDJ (thanx a lot to him)
It doesn't do any harm coz i didn't need to upgrade rom nor ram and everything is dealt with thru sdcard
if u don't like just format or erase the android folders or just leave it there if u have a big memory
it's awesome by all means!! give it try u wont loose anything!!
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Hi there
Are you saying, that you've managed to run adndroid on your leo with stock Rom and radio? Thing is, that I would also like to try android on my handset, but I'm too scared to hurt it in any way - hence not too keen on changing rom / radio - which seem to be only way according to info I've managed to find so far
Would you care to share your phone configuration, to see what you're running?
Many thanks.
krzyzag said:
I would also like to try android on my handset, but I'm too scared to hurt it in any way - hence not too keen on changing rom / radio - which seem to be only way according to info I've managed to find so far
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Your current configuration won't run Android. It needs a radio of at least 2.08.50 (MUST be a .50, NOT a .51!!!) The ROM is irrelevant - only the radio matters to Android.
There is an official ROM upgrade available that takes you up to a 3.14 ROM with a 2.15.50 radio, but I don't know if you can use that without HSPL as you have a branded handset.
It may be possible to just upgrade the radio, from the HD2 ROMs thread, and leave your Windows ROM as it is.
Duff33 said:
Gents,
Apologies if I have missed this in another thread (I did do a search!) or if this si the wrong forum
Has anyone gone from Win Mo 6.5 to Android on their HTC HD2? Was it easy to do? What files would I need to back up etc? And is it worth doing?
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They are two separate systems - WinMo in the phone's ROM and Android on the Phone's SD Card.
The only real requirement is that your RADIO must be at least 2.08.50 (any one higher than that with a .50 will do). So you need to know what software you already have:
Settings -> About phone -> Software information. Here you will see the Rom, Radio versions. If the radio is not correct, then we'll go through the procedure on how to update it.
The chefs in the Android ROM section give details on what you download and how to set it up.
As for backing up, there should be no need to (as they are independent systems), but better safe than sorry; install SPB Backup. Even if you weren't thinking of running Android, having a backup is always advisable.
mismatch
I have a bootscreen on WM that shows 3.14 as the ROM but in Settings/phone/ software information it still shows 1.48 and a date of 09/29/10.
Is this normal? does this mean my upgrade failed?
Radio release is same on both - 2.15.50.14
modified2 said:
I have a bootscreen on WM that shows 3.14 as the ROM but in Settings/phone/ software information it still shows 1.48 and a date of 09/29/10.
Is this normal? does this mean my upgrade failed?
Radio release is same on both - 2.15.50.14
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Don't worry about what is says when Windows is running. The value shown then is from the registry, so it can be changed. Have you done a restore from a backup application by any chance?

Converting from an NAND rom to SD Rom

Hi All,
Can we use the System.img released with NAND roms as an SD build?
I see many nice builds released right now for NAND, and a decrease in SD builds. I prefer to use SD based builds -> any solution?
--summoner
summoner said:
Hi All,
Can we use the System.img released with NAND roms as an SD build?
I see many nice builds released right now for NAND, and a decrease in SD builds. I prefer to use SD based builds -> any solution?
--summoner
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There is a decrease because the NAND versions are so darn perfect and solid. I am assuming you want to continue with SD versions to keep WM 6.5 as a dual boot option? If not, then just do a NAND flash and use your SD card for what it was intended for, mass storage! NAND is the way to go, SD card is so last year! Lol!
I've actually been searching for the last couple of days for the complete opposite, converting a sd version to a nand. Already found the wonderful world of nand converting to cwm.
i would like to stick with sd version as i still havent found a fully satisfied version...i am wondering does nand will work way better and stable than sd version? because im keep changing different build to test which one is the best one out of them.
Its a matter of opinion, you have to at least have a base of what your looking for, for example, I like sense builds, not many are out there, but I try them, they all have their pros and cons, its what you can live with and what you cant. Or as many have said, make your own. I got into doing that with WinMo when I didnt like much of the builds out there. Now I may just read up on seeing about making my own build for myself.
But in short, have a base of what your looking for and go from there.
i tried to extract the system.img and put the files into a generated system.ext2, the process was successful, but the system.ext2 wont boot, it kept rebooting.
maybe there's another way to do this
Thanks for all the replies!
1. I like having both Winmo and Android although I do currently use Android more
2. I Am sure NAND builds are super-best-good-times, but I like flashing to have the latest and greatest and find it a big benefit to have WinMo at the backseat
3. Any success with this? are the kernels released for NAND compatible with SD?
It seems that most builds and work is on NAND builds I hope SD and RAM builds (which I think are the best of all worlds) won't be abandoned.
--summoner
I am also interested in this
I am also interested in doing this. I need to still have my WinMo 6.5 so I can sync my work schedule (ANDROID is NOT supported or allowed) and I have notice a significant Lag in the GPS apps I have tried (IGO, and Aura) on a NAND ROM. If any chef has the time to walk me through it I would greatly appreciate it.
I'm using WP7 and duel boot with Android on SD, I will be returning to Android Nand as my main OS, but I will still test Android SD builds booting from Magldr. The SD forum has slowed down, so I would like to convert nand to sd also. Hopefully someone will find a solution soon. Why not have the best of both. When Magdlr 1.13 comes out, there will proberbly be more interest in this area.
i would also like to do this. because there is some nand roms i would like to convert for my personal use. please someone point us in the right direction.
ok im new and a friend of mind had a sd android on my hd2 now i want the realthing in nand how do i do this, sorry but my friend who did this for me in the begining past away so now im trying (rip gary)
phonegod said:
ok im new and a friend of mind had a sd android on my hd2 now i want the realthing in nand how do i do this, sorry but my friend who did this for me in the begining past away so now im trying (rip gary)
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893948
this helped me
I, too, am interested in such a conversion (NAND ROM to SD ROM).
If there is not already an app, there will be. After all, this is XDA.
Actually guys.. you should have used the search box!
Here's a way to do that

Which OS to use?

Hey. I have some questions..
Im new in all of this an so pls forgive me if i ask something stupid
// I have an HD2 with 512MB Flash Memory / 576MB RAM
Im looking for an Android OS which runs stable, with good performance and if possible enough apps .. the battery life is not interesting for me.
So i hope, theres something out that fits my wishes
it would be nice if you could also link me the thread (or a video) where is exactly explained how to install the new os ( and of course a link where i can download the rom, if its not in the thread where it is explained how )
thank you
Here's a guide to installing Android on your HD2...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893948
Other than that, just take your time and have a look through the NAND ROM section. Just open some that sound interesting to you from the titles and read the 1st post to see if it's what you want (Froyo or Gingerbread? Sense or no Sense?).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=928
I've not seen a ROM thread yet where the dev doesn't list what's working and what's not working, so you should be able to weigh it up yourself.
I only suggest you do this because there's no way I can tell you a good ROM. It's all subjective, and you're better knowing what options you have anyway, rather than me just giving you a link to the one I use and saying it's the best there is!
Good luck mate. If you get stuck on anything, read, read, read. If you really can't find help then you've found a very rare situation, so go ahead and ask.
Have fun
Thank you, that will help me for sure, but i have an other question.
What means "Sense or no Sense" ?
Do you know the HTC interface, HTC Sense? It's on the HD2 running WM by default, but also on Android HTC devices such as the Desire, Desire HD and Desire Z (to name but a few).
If you've never seen it it's worth a look. I personally don't use it as I prefer something more configurable, but a lot of people really rate it.
Here's a link to the Desire running Sense...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfSxWNOG8DQ
Hello,
I use a clean Android 2.3.2 and it works like a charm. 720p recording does not work, but it should be fixed in future. You can contact me via MSN or ICQ.. In german
Or you go to www.mobiletopia.de and you can read my Tutorial for flashing Android (http://mobiletopia.de/viewtopic.php?f=371&t=8275) if it is easier in german.
Im not exactly sure what it is, but i think that i like it.. so thank you very much .. I will give a try to the threads you posted above.
You're welcome mate. Good luck
You may also want to try one of the NAND builds, they replace Windows Mobile on your phone. I set up NexusHD2-Froyo V1.9b NAND for my girlfriend and she's reported no problems. It's been a few weeks now.
It runs very fast and stable.
Before you can install a NAND ROM, you will first need to install the MAGLDR. But it's all quite easy.
Helgon2000 said:
Im not exactly sure what it is, but i think that i like it.. so thank you very much .. I will give a try to the threads you posted above.
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It's Android for the NAND of you HD2. That means that it will be installed in you phone memory.
An other option ist to install Android on your SD card and Windows Mobile is still on your device and you have to start Android from within Windows Mobile.
I think NAND is the better option, after you startet Android the first time you will never change back
P.S. i used a clean Android from the NAND-section fro Leo and it just works.

[Q] NOR vs NAND

Hi , I have HD2 and I want to install android OS on it. I found a lot of solutions on this website like booting from SD Card and NAND solutions, but I have one question. Is there any NOR version installation and in general which is better NOR or NAND ? Sorry for this maybe general question but I need help and I would also wanted to consult with you . Thanks , every help is appreciated.
Hi there mate.!
Never heard anything about the NOR version that you are talking sorry
There are 2 ways to install Android OS in your device and they are posted in sub-forums in here and i think you have already saw them
The SD version is if you don't want to leave wm6.5 but wanna give Android a try!
(thats the easiest way to install it)
And the NAND version if you have decided that you want Android OS in your mobile and ofc Android will have much better performance in NAND than SD
PS: my opinion is if you don't want mw6.5 anymore go read some posts and install the NAND version cause you will have much much more performance
I hope i helped
there are no nor versions, you on about running a version in ram ?
Hi and thanks for a quick reply and more than helpful answers. I need to ask you several more things. Since I want to install NAND version, because of the performance, I need the latest version . I saw several instructions for 2.2 and 2.3 android. Can you give me the link to the 2.3 newest installation link. Also is there any known issue after installation (like no wireless network, or some applications doesn't work...)
best off looking in the dev section, depends on whether you want a sense rom or not
Richy99 said:
best off looking in the dev section, depends on whether you want a sense rom or not
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As Richy said there are sooo many roms for you to try
The 2.3.5 rom for me is the most stable if you want your phone to work 100% 24/7 with no battery consume!
Now its up to you if you want Sense 2.2 or 3 if you want MIUI or Gingerbeard or or or or or
For me it goes like this :
1:Go to NAND sub-forum
2: Find a good and updated Rom for your mobile (at the front of each title its the release day) enter it and read the full description the dev gives you and to all the steps!!!!
3: for correct use of your wifi,gps,etc.....find a good kernel (Most devs gives you a kernel of their choise with their ROM)
Thats all you need to know...all you have to do is read the hole post carefully
And just an opoinion..if you want a fast and stable (not a fancy one) ROM go for a MIUI and a good one is this Mwakious
and this is Kefir's Kernel
Good luck and if you need anythink PM me
PS: if you think i helped you hit the THANKS button
Hi I saw some HD2 Tmobile instructions. Can I use them even if I am not on T mobile or not ??
htcfanclub said:
Hi I saw some HD2 Tmobile instructions. Can I use them even if I am not on T mobile or not ??
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When the T-Mobile version is mentioned, it is purely indicating that it is a TMOUS HD2 with 1024 MB ROM and the T-Mobile logo on the top. The carrier doesn't matter
Nigeldg said:
When the T-Mobile version is mentioned, it is purely indicating that it is a TMOUS HD2 with 1024 MB ROM and the T-Mobile logo on the top. The carrier doesn't matter
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Are you sure that carrier doesn't matter , US has different frequencies , and this is T-mobile US (TMOUS). If the carrier doesn't matter ,can I then install in switzerland on orange HD2 according to the procedure for T-Mobile new gignerbread ?
If not can someone give me some links for my HD2 please. I searched NAND 2.3 android but some of the topics are from 2010 and some of them after installation have various types of problems.
Thanks !
Hi there, I was exactly where you were 3 weeks ago. I picked up a second HD2 as my WM HD2 phone is heavily loaded with apps and files etc. and I did not want to risk stuffing it. I played with a couple of versions with HTC Sense but then tried TyphooN CyanogenMod 7 and found it smaller, faster and more stable + much slicker than WM.
After just 3 days and a few new apps like Swype and Wi-Fi tethering, I cut over to droid forever. Next I will do my original HD2 to make it a mirror backup.
htcfanclub said:
Are you sure that carrier doesn't matter , US has different frequencies , and this is T-mobile US (TMOUS). If the carrier doesn't matter ,can I then install in switzerland on orange HD2 according to the procedure for T-Mobile new gignerbread ?
If not can someone give me some links for my HD2 please. I searched NAND 2.3 android but some of the topics are from 2010 and some of them after installation have various types of problems.
Thanks !
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As long as you have a TMOUS phone, you can install the T-Mobile US version. As for the Android ROM, have you even looked in the NAND Development forums? There are tonnes of ROMs, none of them even remotely old, which work perfectly. Take Typhoon CM7 or Hyperdroid, for example.

[Q] Which Android port is the most stable for HTC HD2?

Hi Friends!
I have had experience in the past with iPhone's and iOS, but now I am putting some hands at Android phones.
Actually, I have a HTC HD2 with a poor operating system, which is Windows... I want to port Android there, and my question is, which one of the Android OS is the most stable in this phone. I know there are various versions of Android available for the HD2, but I am looking for the Android that will perform flawlessly and is the easiest to port (straightforward, using tool, not coding), I don't want to put my head in danger on the first attempt.
Which of the Androids works best on HTC HD2, and what tools do I use to make the port for that particular OS version.
Thanks in advance,
Best Regards
PS: provide me with direct links please!
IMPORTANT: by default this phone was factory locked to T-Mobile US, now I am using it outside the us in another country, but I did not perform anything on it to change the radio settings, the person that gave me the phone has unlocked it...If I port Android to this phone will it risk the radio settings (I would not like the lose the possibility of using it with other carriers), or porting Android does not mess with the radio at all...
For future reference, what type of Driver/Tool is required to have installed so the phone can interact with computer?
siemprepeligroso said:
Hi Friends!
I have had experience in the past with iPhone's and iOS, but now I am putting some hands at Android phones.
Actually, I have a HTC HD2 with a poor operating system, which is Windows... I want to port Android there, and my question is, which one of the Android OS is the most stable in this phone. I know there are various versions of Android available for the HD2, but I am looking for the Android that will perform flawlessly and is the easiest to port (straightforward, using tool, not coding), I don't want to put my head in danger on the first attempt.
Which of the Androids works best on HTC HD2, and what tools do I use to make the port for that particular OS version.
Thanks in advance,
Best Regards
PS: provide me with direct links please!
IMPORTANT: by default this phone was factory locked to T-Mobile US, now I am using it outside the us in another country, but I did not perform anything on it to change the radio settings, the person that gave me the phone has unlocked it...If I port Android to this phone will it risk the radio settings (I would not like the lose the possibility of using it with other carriers), or porting Android does not mess with the radio at all...
For future reference, what type of Driver/Tool is required to have installed so the phone can interact with computer?
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If you used the search tool or Google you could have easily found 100+ threads about the best ROM.
I would say use a CM7 or MIUI ROM. There are tonnes, don't be lazy, I CBA to post links (yes, that is very hypocritical of me).
As far as I know Android won't mess with your carrier stuff
To install just download the HD2 NAND Toolkit, install HSPL, MAGLDR, CWM then ROM (see this guide).
Nigeldg said:
If you used the search tool or Google you could have easily found 100+ threads about the best ROM.
I would say use a CM7 or MIUI ROM. There are tonnes, don't be lazy, I CBA to post links (yes, that is very hypocritical of me).
As far as I know Android won't mess with your carrier stuff
To install just download the HD2 NAND Toolkit, install HSPL, MAGLDR, CWM then ROM (see this guide).
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I tend to understand that he wants to PORT and not INSTALL an Android ROM. Isn't that correct?
If that is what you are asking then Gingerbread non-sense is currently the easiest to port. you can use the kitchen found within the development forum.
Marvlesz said:
I tend to understand that he wants to PORT and not INSTALL an Android ROM. Isn't that correct?
If that is what you are asking then Gingerbread non-sense is currently the easiest to port. you can use the kitchen found within the development forum.
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I wasn't too sure, but I assumed that the use of the word 'port' was simply a misunderstanding, in the same way that many people say that they have 'flashed' an SD Android build.
@OP, If I was wrong then I take back what I said about not searching and stuff cos this is clearly not something heavily discussed and there isn't as much information available about it.
In my experiance hyperdroid cm7 has good speed stability, and battry life. This is a minimal rom with not a lot of fluff. If you like iphone fluff i would suggest ndt miui stable, miui has iphone simple fluff with andorid power, while cm7 has extended power user features like cpu controll built in.
to learn how to do this look for a newbie thread. They walk you form stock with being locked down to android and unlocked for flashing new roms.
I would go for hyperdroid it's fast and stable.

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