I have upgraded my orginal rom to offical roms such as 1.48 and the latest 1.61. I really want to try a cooked rom (which I did many a time on my Blackstone which I have sold), but other than wanting the Documents tab which I would find very useful for me.... well I just am not sure if flashing cooked roms are a good idea.
I say this because I flashed so many cooked roms on my Blackstone and even after hard resets, I had noticed a decrease in speed in overall performance. I think it was because I flashed it too many times. I wrote in the Blackstone forum if flashing too many times could do more harm than good.
I just read in the Leo Rom forums that when you flash roms of different sizes it can leave residule files behind in the rom which can make the phone unstable or sluggish.
I so want to try a new rom and every time I see an updated cooked rom in the rom thread I aways go to the last posts and still read of some problems some users have which puts me off.
I am not degrading the wonderful lengthy work these rom cookers do but I think I am happy enough with my phone with official roms. I just wish I could add in a documents tab without having to flash the entire rom.
Also why is it that the phone is super fast after a hard reset and as soon as you start installing stuff it becomes less so? Shame really. I am thinking one day to try the phone with no third party apps just to see if the speed stays the same. However, that is defeating the whole purpose of the phone about not installing apps.
Rant over
Well, I have a T-mobile-branded phone, and I have no intention of flashing a cooked ROM at least until after T-mobile releases a T-Mobile-compatible ROM upgrade. Until they do, I have no way of flashing back to a T-Mobile ROM and SPL, which means that flashing would irreversibly void my warranty; and with hardware as flaky as the HD2's clearly is, that's an unacceptable risk.
I'm not going to flash a new rom until I'm looking around for a new phone. Then I might try to dash in some new roms, but untill then I'm rolling stock all the way
Shasarak said:
Well, I have a T-mobile-branded phone, and I have no intention of flashing a cooked ROM at least until after T-mobile releases a T-Mobile-compatible ROM upgrade. Until they do, I have no way of flashing back to a T-Mobile ROM and SPL, which means that flashing would irreversibly void my warranty; and with hardware as flaky as the HD2's clearly is, that's an unacceptable risk.
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do the T-mobile ROMs that are available to download from many locations here not flash back the SPL?
I downloaded my version of the t-mobile ROM so that I could go back if I encounter any hardware problems...
josep54 said:
do the T-mobile ROMs that are available to download from many locations here not flash back the SPL?
I downloaded my version of the t-mobile ROM so that I could go back if I encounter any hardware problems...
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My phone is on vodafone but I got the phone from Phones4u does this mean it's branded to vodafone? Also if this is the case that it will void my warranty I have insurance. I f*ck the phone up then I loose it "unintentionally" . Then get a new one
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I have insurance. I f*ck the phone up then I loose it "unintentionally" . Then get a new one
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Lol thas is so illegal, if they find out you do it you get in alot of **** xD , still I do think its a good idea
I looooove flashing new custom roms, Im addicted @[email protected] although lately Ive been sticking with dutty's latest, very fast and rather stable
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Lol thas is so illegal, if they find out you do it you get in alot of **** xD , still I do think its a good idea
I looooove flashing new custom roms, Im addicted @[email protected] although lately Ive been sticking with dutty's latest, very fast and rather stable
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lol I know but think is how are they ever going to find out as long as your not posting on forums saying 'I've done this' lol they will be none the wiser. Serves them right for offering insurance to people who are on the sh*test network going lol. Wish I could have got mine on a different network but apparently as it's from phones4u I already have the 1.48 rom and can upgrade straight from HTC woohooo
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do the T-mobile ROMs that are available to download from many locations here not flash back the SPL?
I downloaded my version of the t-mobile ROM so that I could go back if I encounter any hardware problems...
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Flashing an official ROM through the PC won't overwrite the hspl, flashing an official ROM via sd card WILL overwrite the HSPL.
You should read the HSPL thread, it talks about uninstalling hspl half way down the first post.
tboy2000 said:
I say this because I flashed so many cooked roms on my Blackstone and even after hard resets, I had noticed a decrease in speed in overall performance. I think it was because I flashed it too many times. I wrote in the Blackstone forum if flashing too many times could do more harm than good.
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This decrease in speed has to do with you installing apps and the registry gets filled up and through the installing and uninstalling of things, things slow down as the rom gets fragmented just look your computer. This is why overall performance decreases and not primarily because of flashing.
Another reason that the device can all of a sudden perform worse is also due to the different builds out there. They all have difference strengths and weakness. Some are more fast and some of them are more stable. The device itself does not mutate however I'm sure over 1000 flashes, there is a natural wear and tear. Most of us are no where near that.
Wait for your providers to provide stock upgrades so that reverting to stock is possible. I know quite a few members don't have any stock roms to fail back on. That would be the only reason not to flash a cooked rom.
Happy flashing people...!!
ok i have had many htc phones and flashed them all BUT the hd2 seems like there is a greater chance of bricking the phone so i finid it better to ask before i make a mistake so....i want to flash to this rom and want to know if the radio i have is ok and if everything else is right before i do i have read the noob starter guide but still confussedhere is the stuff i have
os 5.221889
rom 2.10.531.1
radio 2.08.50.08.2
ram size 576
flash size 1024
speed 1024 mhzmodel no t-mobile_ leo
the phone has been unlocked to use a different carrier and i dont want to lose that and when i go to the roms there is just alot of different options i have always liked the energy roms so can someone point me in the right direction
thanks
joe
joey1117 said:
ram size 576
flash size 1024
speed 1024 mhzmodel no t-mobile_ leo
joe
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Sounds to me that you do in fact have a TMOUS T8585, if not, why are you posting in the TMOUS forum??
the phone has been unlocked to use a different carrier and i dont want to lose that and when i go to the roms there is just alot of different options i have always liked the energy roms so can someone point me in the right direction
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if the phone is SIM unlocked, thats permanent. for someone who has done many rom flashes, thats pretty much common knowledge.
go here, do some (make that lots) of reading:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614
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ok i have had many htc phones and flashed them all BUT the hd2 seems like there is a greater chance of bricking the phone so i finid it better to ask before i make a mistake so....i want to flash to this rom and want to know if the radio i have is ok and if everything else is right before i do i have read the noob starter guide but still confussedhere is the stuff i have
os 5.221889
rom 2.10.531.1
radio 2.08.50.08.2
ram size 576
flash size 1024
speed 1024 mhzmodel no t-mobile_ leo
the phone has been unlocked to use a different carrier and i dont want to lose that and when i go to the roms there is just alot of different options i have always liked the energy roms so can someone point me in the right direction
thanks
joe
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I received my SIMUNLOCK code from TMO like 2 days after I got the phone. I have personally flashed just about every rom in this section and mine is still SIM UNLOCKED. Hope this helps..
sorry for the confussion let me clear this up a bit
first to 2002wrex that said"if the phone is SIM unlocked, thats permanent. for someone who has done many rom flashes, thats pretty much common knowledge.
yes maybe common knowledge but ever heard of a little phone called the iphone? if you upgrade to the newest software it is locked to AT&T and the DEV team does not think they can unlock it ...ever so thats why i ask the question with the cell company's getting smarter i wanted to know if i would lose that code...you never know right?
and as far as the
"for someone who has done many rom flashes" i guess i should have cleared that up as well ....i started with the wizard then the tilt then the diamond i have flashed all of them many times from this site BUT in the link you gave me
"http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614" that i have read many times it says "IMPORTANT: DO NOT flash any Rom unless it states in the 1st post that its compatable with the 1024LEO or the chef confirms its safe to flash on a 1024LEO. If you flash a Rom with a Base version before 2.08 then you will most likely brick your phone. PLEASE BE CAREFUL!!" and not all roms say what radio is in it thats why i ask hope this clears things up a bit i was asking what would be a good first rom to flash on the hd2
thanks
joe
No sim unlock just install HSPL for TMO 1024 and choose any of the available roms. HSPL is needed to flash ROMS. There are other methods but HSPL is the best way. Also read about task29.
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sorry for the confussion let me clear this up a bit
first to 2002wrex that said"if the phone is SIM unlocked, thats permanent. for someone who has done many rom flashes, thats pretty much common knowledge.
yes maybe common knowledge but ever heard of a little phone called the iphone? if you upgrade to the newest software it is locked to AT&T and the DEV team does not think they can unlock it ...ever so thats why i ask the question with the cell company's getting smarter i wanted to know if i would lose that code...you never know right?
and as far as the
"for someone who has done many rom flashes" i guess i should have cleared that up as well ....i started with the wizard then the tilt then the diamond i have flashed all of them many times from this site BUT in the link you gave me
"http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614" that i have read many times it says "IMPORTANT: DO NOT flash any Rom unless it states in the 1st post that its compatable with the 1024LEO or the chef confirms its safe to flash on a 1024LEO. If you flash a Rom with a Base version before 2.08 then you will most likely brick your phone. PLEASE BE CAREFUL!!" and not all roms say what radio is in it thats why i ask hope this clears things up a bit i was asking what would be a good first rom to flash on the hd2
thanks
joe
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All the roms in this section Are T-mobile based roms so no worries here about the radio version as they will all be right, As long as you stay in this section then you are good.
As far as the jailbreak for the Icrap goes the sim unlock is a work around not a true unlock. If you get the code from ATT and enter it then it never has to entered again.
ok thanks guy i just wanted to be sure thanks for the info really helped
joe
joey1117 said:
sorry for the confussion let me clear this up a bit
first to 2002wrex that said"if the phone is SIM unlocked, thats permanent. for someone who has done many rom flashes, thats pretty much common knowledge.
yes maybe common knowledge but ever heard of a little phone called the iphone? if you upgrade to the newest software it is locked to AT&T and the DEV team does not think they can unlock it ...ever so thats why i ask the question with the cell company's getting smarter i wanted to know if i would lose that code...you never know right?
and as far as the
"for someone who has done many rom flashes" i guess i should have cleared that up as well ....i started with the wizard then the tilt then the diamond i have flashed all of them many times from this site BUT in the link you gave me
"http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614" that i have read many times it says "IMPORTANT: DO NOT flash any Rom unless it states in the 1st post that its compatable with the 1024LEO or the chef confirms its safe to flash on a 1024LEO. If you flash a Rom with a Base version before 2.08 then you will most likely brick your phone. PLEASE BE CAREFUL!!" and not all roms say what radio is in it thats why i ask hope this clears things up a bit i was asking what would be a good first rom to flash on the hd2
thanks
joe
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Entering a code into the phone which was generated for that specific phone is a little different that tweaking iPhone's Software to allow a SIM card other than AT&T to be used with the phone. HTC given the codes out so there is no reason to try to tweak the HD2 to unlock it with software.
hi. i just bought a tmobile hd2. some of my phones informations is:
spl-2.10.0000 8g xe
fcc id:nm8pb81120
os version 5.2.21892 (21892.5.0.89)
manila ver 2.5.20121412.2
rom 2.13.531.1 (90963) wwe
redio ver 2.10.50.26
protocol 15.39.50.07u
cpu 8250b
speed 1024mhz
ram 576 mb
flash size 1024mb
i've read lots of articles on this site. i suppose i'll need to instal another rom on my phone. i read a lot but i get little confused. i think first i have to instal HardSPL (forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614) second i have to flash a radio and i can instal a rom. and on this page (forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591784) it says i don't need to flash a radio. which means that i just install hardspl and instal this rom... am i right?
can you guys help me what am i suppose to do... and which version of hardspl, radio and rom works well for me?
sory to ask lots of questions but i don't know enough about wm phones ( thanks for guides...
Hi, basic steps are
1. Backup your important data like contacts etc..
2. Its very IMPORTANT that you Flash HardSPL first before flashing any ROM (No worries,it only needs to be done once for you to enjoy subsequent custom ROMs). Version 2.08.HSPL is ok.
3. Browse the threads for a suitable "TMobile HD2 compatible ROM" or visit this link for comfirmed ROMs.
4. Perform a Hard reset after successfully flashing any of the ROMs
5. Enjoy!
i suggest u clear your schedule, get coffee, tea, drink(s) and visit This Link . It contains info and links to all the guides you can possibly need to push you and your device to a higher level. i wouldn't recommend trying android till you are very comfortable with flashing ROMs.
you dont need to worry about the radio just yet, because since you have a tmous phone, it already has a radio that will work with all tmous compatible roms anyway.
Well I'm gonna just say right now I'm not an expert or anything since I'm relatively new too. I'm just trying to help, I would however advise wait for a more experienced person to answer.
First, if you want to flash a ROM follow this guide for the TMOUS HD2's. It goes over how to do it, which ROMs are compatible and all that.
Yes, you do have to get HSPL (except I think there are methods when you don't, though that might just be for the international phones...). But to get HSPL you should probably use this. I don't know if it is the only thing that does it but it, from what I understand, is the most well known. It also keeps you from "bricking" your phone.
From what I understand the only time you have to flash a radio is if the ROM needs it, and the chefs will say if it needs a certain one or list ones that it works with on their ROM page. I think most of them support the radio that comes stock, though don't take my word for it. I would wait for someone else to confirm or re-explain this paragraph because I'm not completely for sure.
As for which ROM is right for you...well only you can answer that. They all are different and different ones have advantages over the others. You just gotta explore a little and see what looks nice. This is the list of ROMs that support the T-Mobile HD2 so stick to it. I don't know how up-to-date it is (meaning I don't know if there are any new ones or not) but stick to those, you can "brick" your phone otherwise.
I would however advise if you're new to WM phones to try out themes first. They are a lot safer and I don't think there is any chance of ruining your phone (the only reason I flashed mine is because I've done it with a different phone before and felt comfortable doing it). Don't do anything you are uncomfortable doing and understand all the risks that go into anything you do to your phone before you do them.
Sorry for the long post, just hope this helps a little.
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I just got double ninja'd
thaks everybody for all informations. i'm still reading to find out how to install a rom and which one is good. i liked enegy rom gtx themed. i'll take a try. just before doing something to my phone i'm just tring to learn more but i'll do it anyway with a goodway or hardway... i hope everythig goes well...
thanks again...
Muzun28 said:
thaks everybody for all informations. i'm still reading to find out how to install a rom and which one is good. i liked enegy rom gtx themed. i'll take a try. just before doing something to my phone i'm just tring to learn more but i'll do it anyway with a goodway or hardway... i hope everythig goes well...
thanks again...
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That's d spirit...You'll be amazed @ what the search function on XDA coughs up...Everything'll go well once u stick to d guides and TMobile compatibie ROMs & Radios.
i picked up this rom (forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=652649) but there is two options. 1) com5(c5) 2)com2(c2). i don't know what it means... and if want to install one of these roms do i have to flash a radio after installing hspl?
and what is the stock rom?
thanks again...
It looks like COM5 and COM2 are just different versions. COM5 offers more options it looks like though, but I'm not sure. Someone else can probably answer that a lot better than me. I am also unable to answer the radio question. Sorry.
As for stock ROM though, that is the ROM that came already on your HD2 when you got it.
Muzun28 said:
i picked up this rom (forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=652649) but there is two options. 1) com5(c5) 2)com2(c2). i don't know what it means... and if want to install one of these roms do i have to flash a radio after installing hspl?
and what is the stock rom?
thanks again...
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I see u picked out Kumar's ROM...Click Here for a thread on the definitions and differences between COMs...And No, you won't need to flash a radio after installing HSPL or a custom ROM (Unless you are having problems connecting to your network in which case, u need 2 be careful 2 flash a radio known to work with Tmobile HD2).
Stock ROM is the original/default ROM which TMobile shipped with your device. Follow this guide and you can grab the stock ROM from here. The Stock ROM has to be re-flashed to your device if u ever have to return it to Tmobile as flashing a custom ROM voids your warranty. Grab useful links and watch video tutorials here.
Hope dis helps ya.
thaks voncrane i learned a lot today...
Muzun28 said:
thaks voncrane i learned a lot today...
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You are welcome, we r all noobs on different levels..
Hi, I recently bought a T-mobile HD2, the unit isn't unlocked yet but I plan to unlock it and use it with AT&T, anyways I'm interested in running Android on the device. Would updating the HD2 from the HTC website which I believe is the official update website prohibit me in anyway from locking out Android or do anything negative in terms of customization of the HD2 unit?
I am running the updated rom 2.13 I am on t-mobile though and I am able to use android all day but once I restart it reverts back to WM. So I am not sure if this helps you...I was able to get everything running but the calls sounded robotic. I read I needed to flash to a new rom.
Poopmonkey said:
Hi, I recently bought a T-mobile HD2, the unit isn't unlocked yet but I plan to unlock it and use it with AT&T, anyways I'm interested in running Android on the device. Would updating the HD2 from the HTC website which I believe is the official update website prohibit me in anyway from locking out Android or do anything negative in terms of customization of the HD2 unit?
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Well first, if you have the T-Mobile version of the phone, you do NOT want to use an update from the HTC site, that's for the euro version of the phone. The upgraded stock rom that you can use is available on T-Mobile's support page for the HD2.
Now, flashing to the correct updated ROM will not prevent you from doing anything...you'll still be able to unlock it later, you can still run Android, and you can still do any customizations you want. It's just a newer version of the stock ROM that originally came on the phone.
Hey, thanks so much guys, I'll search for the T-mobile page. I'm glad you guys caught it before I bricked me phone.
BTW, I read that you the T-Mobile Version of the HD2 doesnt use radios. What exactly are radios? I know they mean like firmware versions but what is the term. Also, do you guys recommend flashing a different WM rom or just keep the stock one? I tried to read about Android on the HD2 but I need some user advice. Is Android now stable enough for everyday use on the HD2? Also, could you use applications on the HD2 Android Rom? Will they work as they should? Lastly, why didn't the developers develop a Android rom that you could flash so you didn't have to reboot into it after every Hard Reset?
Poopmonkey said:
BTW, I read that you the T-Mobile Version of the HD2 doesnt use radios. What exactly are radios? I know they mean like firmware versions but what is the term.
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The US HD2 certainly does use radios, it just uses different ones than the euro version...in fact, that's most of the reason the wrong ROM could brick your phone, because of radio incompatibility. As you said, the radios you see referred to here are the firmware packages used to control the hardware radios in the phone (voice, 3G/EDGE, GPS, WiFi, BT). When you flash a different radio, you're applying a different set of settings to the way all that functions.
Also, do you guys recommend flashing a different WM rom or just keep the stock one?
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That's generally completely a matter of personal opinion, some people will tell you that using a custom ROM is so critical that if you don't your grandchildren will walk funny, etc....whereas I am doing just fine running the stock ROM and just manually tweaking and hacking it to my liking, part by part. However, if you're going to be running Android on it, there's evidence that having a custom ROM vs the stock will help with some of the known problems with the Android ports that are available.
I tried to read about Android on the HD2 but I need some user advice. Is Android now stable enough for everyday use on the HD2? Also, could you use applications on the HD2 Android Rom? Will they work as they should?
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There's several builds available, and all of the current ones are remarkably stable compared to the first attempts. But, I believe that that there's still not any that are absolutely 100% fully-functional...each has some minor drawback or caveat, like BT or 3G or the camera not working right, but usually that's the only issue(s). Also, it's been a couple of days since I checked on those, so they may have come even farther since then. One common drawback to all of them though is the heaaavvvy battery drain...but this is also being addressed as quickly as possible. And yes, in every build the apps and marketplace seem to be working just as they would on any factory android install.
Lastly, why didn't the developers develop a Android rom that you could flash so you didn't have to reboot into it after every Hard Reset?
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That seems to have become the final frontier for Android on the HD2...the release of a fully stand-alone ROM. Trust me, they are working on that, there's tons of members here drooling and waiting for that exact thing. It requires a completely different method of loading Android into memory, so there's a lot more kinks to work out
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The US HD2 certainly does use radios, it just uses different ones than the euro version...in fact, that's most of the reason the wrong ROM could brick your phone, because of radio incompatibility. As you said, the radios you see referred to here are the firmware packages used to control the hardware radios in the phone (voice, 3G/EDGE, GPS, WiFi, BT). When you flash a different radio, you're applying a different set of settings to the way all that functions.
That's generally completely a matter of personal opinion, some people will tell you that using a custom ROM is so critical that if you don't your grandchildren will walk funny, etc....whereas I am doing just fine running the stock ROM and just manually tweaking and hacking it to my liking, part by part. However, if you're going to be running Android on it, there's evidence that having a custom ROM vs the stock will help with some of the known problems with the Android ports that are available.
There's several builds available, and all of the current ones are remarkably stable compared to the first attempts. But, I believe that that there's still not any that are absolutely 100% fully-functional...each has some minor drawback or caveat, like BT or 3G or the camera not working right, but usually that's the only issue(s). Also, it's been a couple of days since I checked on those, so they may have come even farther since then. One common drawback to all of them though is the heaaavvvy battery drain...but this is also being addressed as quickly as possible. And yes, in every build the apps and marketplace seem to be working just as they would on any factory android install.
That seems to have become the final frontier for Android on the HD2...the release of a fully stand-alone ROM. Trust me, they are working on that, there's tons of members here drooling and waiting for that exact thing. It requires a completely different method of loading Android into memory, so there's a lot more kinks to work out
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Wow, thank you so much sirphunkee, you sir are a scholar with your detailed response. Anyways, I apologize but I am intrigued by your response and more questions evolve. Once my HD2 comes I assume it will have a older ROM version and a official T-Mobile Update will be available for me. Now, I'm just wondering would I need to worry about what radios I need or will that be taken care of for me.
Also, I'm still a little confused on the whole radio aspect. For example, in this picture located here:
hxxp://support.t-mobile.com/doc/images/tm54430/tm54430_06.gif
The image version is different one is 2.10.531.1 and the other 2.13.531.1. Are these the radio versions or is this like the ROM version. If so how do I find out what my Hd2s radio is? I mean before I flash a rom how do I find out the radio it contains? For example on your HD2, sirphunkee, in your signature, you have:
ROM: 2.10.531.1 (82076) WWE/5.2.21889 (Stock 6.5)
Sense: 2.5.2012
Radio: 2.08.50.08_2
So I assume that you don't have the latest stock ROM right? Also, what does the WWE mean in your ROM version. Would you recommend me updating my HD2 to the latest stock ROM or not?
Also, I read before you flash a phone you need to install HSPL3 on the phone. This is what I'm told is a bootloader. But then Im also told that usually this bootloader is paired with official or leaked roms so that each SPL matches the ROM, so if I need to flash a HSPL3 on my HD2 before I flash a custom ROM do I need to redo it everytime? I mean the HSPL3 is supposedly hard bootloader that survives a hard reset so it won't be wiped from the device until I overwrite it so does that mean I need reflash it everytime I get a new rom so it matches the ROM?
Anyways, sirphunkee, you mention tweaking the stock ROM, would you recommend BSB tweaks or something else because I read about it and users have discovered that they lose some functions after tweaking their phones. Also would I need to install this if I just plan to tweak the original/stock rom?
Furthermore, is Android on the HD2 currently run over/on top of the WM OS so could that be the cause of the heavy battery drain? Also, is the Android OS on the HD2 booted through an exploit in the firmware of the HD2? If so could this be patched? Just a personal opinion of everyone here do you believe that Android on the HD2 that is flashed onto the HD2's NAND itself will be possible/could this final frontier be achieved?
Again I would like to sincerely thank you for everyone's patience with me, especially sirphunkee. Thank you.
No problem!
Poopmonkey said:
Once my HD2 comes I assume it will have a older ROM version and a official T-Mobile Update will be available for me. Now, I'm just wondering would I need to worry about what radios I need or will that be taken care of for me.
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Most of the HD2's built or shipped in the past 2 months have the newer ROM on them, but even if yours doesn't then yes you can just go to the T-Mobile site and get the newer one.
Both of the stock ROM's have the radio(s) included, so you don't have to worry about it if you just stay with one of those ROM's. If you flash a custom ROM it (usually) won't have a radio included, it'll just use whatever radio was already on your phone (i.e. whatever one came with the stock ROM originally). You can flash to different radio versions....ONLY ones that are clearly labeled as being compatible with the US HD2...doesn't matter if you're running a stock or custom ROM, but it does require HSPL first before a radio can be flashed.
Also, I'm still a little confused on the whole radio aspect. For example, in this picture located here:
hxxp://support.t-mobile.com/doc/images/tm54430/tm54430_06.gif
The image version is different one is 2.10.531.1 and the other 2.13.531.1. Are these the radio versions or is this like the ROM version. If so how do I find out what my Hd2s radio is? I mean before I flash a rom how do I find out the radio it contains? For example on your HD2, sirphunkee, in your signature, you have:
ROM: 2.10.531.1 (82076) WWE/5.2.21889 (Stock 6.5)
Sense: 2.5.2012
Radio: 2.08.50.08_2
So I assume that you don't have the latest stock ROM right? Also, what does the WWE mean in your ROM version. Would you recommend me updating my HD2 to the latest stock ROM or not?
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The original stock T-Mobile US ROM (yes, the one I'm running currently) is 2.10.531.1 ("2.10" for short), and the newer one that's been released is 2.13...so that pic you linked there just shows the stock upgrade utility about to upgrade a ROM to the new version (with an included radio).
You can tell what ROM/Radio is on your phone by reading the little text that appears on the bottom of the screen during bootup, and you can also access that info through a settings option once the phone is running.
"WWE" = "WorldWide English"....just means that I have an english-based ROM. Other languages are available by applying ROM's specifically built for that language, but I honestly don't even know if any exist for the T-Mobile HD2, I think they're only available for the euro model.
Since it's very easy to flash the upgraded stock ROM, if your phone comes with the older one I would just suggest running that for a few days and see if it gives you any headaches....if so, then just go ahead and flash to the newer one. There's a number of threads in this section that discuss the differences in the stock ROM's, and the advantages/disadvantages of each. Regardless of which stock ROM you have, the process to flash to a custom ROM is the same either way (HSPL, etc).
Also, I read before you flash a phone you need to install HSPL3 on the phone. This is what I'm told is a bootloader. But then Im also told that usually this bootloader is paired with official or leaked roms so that each SPL matches the ROM, so if I need to flash a HSPL3 on my HD2 before I flash a custom ROM do I need to redo it everytime? I mean the HSPL3 is supposedly hard bootloader that survives a hard reset so it won't be wiped from the device until I overwrite it so does that mean I need reflash it everytime I get a new rom so it matches the ROM?
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HSPL is "permanent", in the sense that it remains on your phone until you manually flash a different HSPL (like flashing back to stock SPL should you need to return the phone for warranty reasons). Once you have HSPL (yes, a hard bootloader) on your phone (HSPL3 being the latest/best to use), you can flash all the different custom ROMs or radios that you want, without having to apply HSPL again.
Anyways, sirphunkee, you mention tweaking the stock ROM, would you recommend BSB tweaks or something else because I read about it and users have discovered that they lose some functions after tweaking their phones. Also would I need to install this if I just plan to tweak the original/stock rom?
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There a bunch of different things you can to to tweak a stock ROM, or to futher tweak a custom one, and BsB is just a nice tight convenient collection of some of the more common ones. I use BsB and don't have any issues related to it, but I also skip a few of the settings in it ("tap time" for example) that have caused issues for other users. Besides BsB, I also use HD2Tweak, JWMD Icon Changer, CHT/CHTE, as well as a whole list of other stand-alone tweaks that come in the form of cab files, or manual registry hacks...some are related to performance or function, while some are strictly visual or style tweaks.
Furthermore, is Android on the HD2 currently run over/on top of the WM OS so could that be the cause of the heavy battery drain? Also, is the Android OS on the HD2 booted through an exploit in the firmware of the HD2? If so could this be patched? Just a personal opinion of everyone here do you believe that Android on the HD2 that is flashed onto the HD2's NAND itself will be possible/could this final frontier be achieved?
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I originially thought the same (that Android ran in parallel with WM and that was causing the batt drain), but from what I read it actually shuts down WM when it runs, so I guess that isn't the cause of the drain...but honestly I haven't been able to keep up with all the finer details of the Android porting that's going on. And yes, a version of Androd that will load straight to NAND at bootup is the final hurdle I was talking about, and that's exactly what a number of dev's are trying very hard to make happen....I suspect that a breakthrough in that is right around the corner, but I'm no dev so take that with a grain of salt!
Hope that helps! It will be a lot easier once you have the unit in-hand and can play with it yourself. Also be sure to look over this thread (if you haven't already): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=663845
Thank you again sirphunkee! Anyways I just got my hd2 and for the most part I like it. Though, I have a question, how can I backup my contacts so that after a new rom install I dont need to relink their facebook accounts again? Basically, I don't have the same names for my contacts, I only have first names so I have to redo it manually one by one and I want to use activesync to do it but it's telling me I need Outlook. Why do I need Outlook? Isn't that a stupid outdated email application? Also, how do you remove all the bloatware like blockbuster from the HD2? Is flashing a custom rom the only option?
Also, I noticed a problem that windows marketplace apps seem to not install. I try to install Skyfire and I see the progress bar and it goes to like 3/4 of the way and never goes past that.
An unrelated question I want to install HSPL3 I have a SPL 2.10.000 on my Stock 2.13 T-Mobile I'm wondering since in the instructions it tells me, that:
*YOU CAN NOW CHOOSE WHICH VERSION OF SPL OR HARDSPL YOU WANT TO FLASH TO YOUR PHONE*
*You can only select between SPL2.08.0000 or 2.08.HSPL. This is to avoid people with 1024LEO's installing an incompatable version and bricking their device*
What exactly am I suppose to pick? A SPL or HSPL? I mean I want to run Android but will this HSPL interfere with my stock ROM? Also, can someone give me like specific instructions on what I need to pick in the installer?
anyone have a idea? I'd like to experiment with android but i wanna make sure i have the right settings to i dontt have a brick in my hands after I'm done.
Poopmonkey said:
Also, I noticed a problem that windows marketplace apps seem to not install. I try to install Skyfire and I see the progress bar and it goes to like 3/4 of the way and never goes past that.
An unrelated question I want to install HSPL3 I have a SPL 2.10.000 on my Stock 2.13 T-Mobile I'm wondering since in the instructions it tells me, that:
*YOU CAN NOW CHOOSE WHICH VERSION OF SPL OR HARDSPL YOU WANT TO FLASH TO YOUR PHONE*
*You can only select between SPL2.08.0000 or 2.08.HSPL. This is to avoid people with 1024LEO's installing an incompatable version and bricking their device*
What exactly am I suppose to pick? A SPL or HSPL? I mean I want to run Android but will this HSPL interfere with my stock ROM? Also, can someone give me like specific instructions on what I need to pick in the installer?
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If you're just going to put android on the phone, you don't need to mess with H/SPL at all...you only need that if you're going to flash to a custom winmo ROM before putting Android on there.
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If you're just going to put android on the phone, you don't need to mess with H/SPL at all...you only need that if you're going to flash to a custom winmo ROM before putting Android on there.
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Thanks for your reply once again sirphunkee, but it says in this thread that I need HSPL3 to get android to run stably.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732380
Also, don't you need HSPL3 to flash a custom ROM in the first place as described here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614
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Thanks for your reply once again sirphunkee, but it says in this thread that I need HSPL3 to get android to run stably.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732380
Also, don't you need HSPL3 to flash a custom ROM in the first place as described here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614
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I think what that thread is saying is that having a custom ROM is what helps with the stability of Android, not just putting HSPL3 on there (unless that's buried in that thread somewhere that I missed...). But yes, putting a custom ROM on the phone would have the prerequisite of HSPL anyway.
I don't have a custom ROM or even HSPL on my HD2, and I'm currently using the Desire v5 build of Android on here. It seems to run very stable, but I haven't yet gotten a few things working on it (i.e. 3G)...I can't say if a custom ROM would make those things work, but I can say it doesn't ever crash or hang or seem to slow down at all.
I just wanted you to know that HSPL wasn't mandatory for you to be able to try out Android on your phone.
Ok thank you so much sirphunkee again. Anyways, I'm wondering if you know why my weather will not update now when I ask it to on a Wifi connection. I try to update it and just says that its a connection error. And also my windows marketplace app installs seem to stall on the 3/4 complete and they never finish. Could you perhaps help me with that?
Lastly, I was wondering would you be able to tell me if I wanted to put a custom ROM on my HD2 what setting do I need to put on my HD2 for a successful flash?
FIND THE "ANDROID ON HD2" THREAD everything is explained.
This past week I installed Android 2.2 on my 1024 HTC HD2 (T-Mobile US) using the Video Tutorial by Tech Burrow and FAQs. I used the Android NAND ROM linked under the video. Everything is working ok and I've been reading the forum and debugging for the past few days...
*this is the first time I've done any type of software modification for phones
Today I clicked on the "NAND Bible" post and the "CleanDROID v2.55" is looking like a better option since I don't use Facebook and all that other stuff that comes preinstalled. I'd be happy to dump all the bells and whistles for something cleaner and faster, with more disk space. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10675863
On the Wiki page for HD2 it says "Try not to flash Custom ROMs unless they say that they're definitely compatible with the 1024LEO, or You'll be sorry!"
My Questions:
1) Is this ROM safe for my phone?
2) If so, is it worth it to perform this upgrade? I'm not familiar with all the technical specs, and don't want to "fix something that ain't broke."
3) If so, for install can I just follow #3 of the Guide [For Newbs]?
Many thanks!
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If you don't want to void your warranty, you're visiting the wrong site.
I don't know if it is safe as I can't understand the coding to linux. but if you can, his source should be stated and you can check it to see if it is safe.
worth the upgrade isn't something we can tell you for we know not of your current status. E.g what works and what doesn't work for you.
I don't know what is step 3 of the guide. But if you know how to install, then install.
Note your questions really don't even need a thread for, these could be done by searching the forums through the search button or even manually. So next time, do a little thinking for yourself first, it helps your brain from rotting. No harsh feelings.
Hmm I've already installed a ROM so not really worried about voiding my warranty at this point.. more worried about bricking my phone..
Well if you had done even more reading, you'd know HSPL is a software prevention of bricking your device. So the only way to brick your device now is through hardware.
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Hmm I've already installed a ROM so not really worried about voiding my warranty at this point.. more worried about bricking my phone..
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Hey mate the best rom for you if you like sense is the core droid rom look in nand builds. if your looking for gingerbread without sense i would say ultimate droid. but please read before flashing through dft or flashing through clock work mod. and only way your bricking the phone is if you flash wrong radio or rom to it. both of the roms i stated are fine for tmous hd2's have fun modding your hd2 and welcome to xda
Thanks Rotary, will check those out.