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Loading WinMobile 5 Without Built-in Apps

I have searched before posting this.
What I want to do is to reload Winmobile 5 onto my TyTN WITHOUT the built-in apps like calendar, word, etc also being loaded in. I would like to load up the phone app but not anything else.
Can this be done please? If so how?
Thanks
WB

I'm not an expert...but think you could try to cook your own ROM; modify the existing WM5 ROM you have and remove all the things you dont want to be there....
I don't know if the existing tools posted in the forum could also be used to modify a WM5 ROM...but could give it a try if you want.
Regards;
Mablan

Mablan,
I was hoping it was a rather more simple process, such as using a special sequence of the bootloader to do this, rather than have to cook ROMS. Appreciate the thought though.
Anyone else able to throw some light on this question?
Thanks
WB

mablan said:
I'm not an expert...but think you could try to cook your own ROM; modify the existing WM5 ROM you have and remove all the things you dont want to be there....
I don't know if the existing tools posted in the forum could also be used to modify a WM5 ROM...but could give it a try if you want.
Regards;
Mablan
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I am afraid most of the programmes are part of the operating system and you will not find a rom here customised to your specs, the last poster was right if you want a stripped out rom to your specs you had better get cooking that is the only way. Look on the Wiki under Hermes for the info you need if you are into D.I.Y.

Guys,
Thanks for the info. Ah well, looks like I'm either off to find a cooked ROM or I live with what I have got.
Cheers
WB

Is there any clean WM 6.1 ROM

I'm looking for clean WM 6.1 ROM - i.e. no 3-rd party applications included - just as it is being shipped.
I want to customize it myself.

Hi osavioro,
I am working in a clean rom WM6.1, however it is half difficult to obtain aid this way…. it would be made use to cooperate?
I am constructing one based in the ROM of the SDK of the MS…

I'd love a clean install as well. I appreciate all the work the cookers do, but every 6.1 ROM has something I'd like to remove but can't. Unfortunately I don't have the skills to cook a vanilla ROM for myself.
I just use my Trinity for calender, contacts, phone and GPS navigation.

yeah me too

pdaviet.net

cecrops said:
pdaviet.net
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i wish i can read vietnamese

me too
LastMile said:
I'd love a clean install as well. I appreciate all the work the cookers do, but every 6.1 ROM has something I'd like to remove but can't. Unfortunately I don't have the skills to cook a vanilla ROM for myself.
I just use my Trinity for calender, contacts, phone and GPS navigation.
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me too You can count me in guys. I would like to help to produce a clean 6.1. I already have some attempts on 19206 and 19701 builds.

This is my current rom and I like it a lot is pretty clean and stable,I don't lose my email, wifi settings.....give it a shot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364972

I would help ... but unfortunately I do not understand a bit about cooking ROMs.
Even more unforunately is that I don't have any spare time for learning, although it is quite interesting.

I am working to only create a clean ROM - WM6.1 with drivers for the P3600. Already I tried to get aid through the forum however I was not answered. I am using my PDA for the tests. As soon as possible I will be publishing a ROM Beta for tests. If possible, still it would like aid in this process.
To generate the ROM I tried to disassemble some ROMs of the forum to understand, however its creators had placed some protections, thing that I find that he goes against the principles of the cooperation.
I placed some topics questioning on what I would have to make and was not taken care of. For the S200 I found a ROM clean (Korand 3,1 - thanks!!! ) how I could work and transform into what I wanted, already for the P3600 is difficult, the people they do not want to help nobody, they only want that I make a donation!
I understand "hard work" that it is to generate a ROM, but I find that the knowledge the respect could be shared.
Thanks for all!

How to remove ROM included Files

How i can delete Programms or any kind of Files, that are included in a ROM that i dont need. For example the Polaris Project is awesome, fast and stable ROM, but many Programms total Rubbish for an normal User and waste of Memory.
There must be a way to delete Rom included Files. i mean Unistall Programms

oh my dear
there is no way to remove software from your ppc which flash in a rom.
but you can cook a rom in your liking style.

how to cook a Rom, any Guide here...
i want the same Rom as i mentioned from Polaris Project, how i can edit this Rom or cook

hmm.. not for the faint hearted cooking roms.. be interested to see how you go.
First things first - BACKUP EVERYTHING!

i am sorry for that .
to edit a rom needs some software .
i read the way to edit rom in a china form ,the softwares are in chinese.
i don;t know where to find the english verson

dump a rom and reconstruct it

hy all. i have a problem (wish): i want to install a clean rom ( i have it allready) and i want to customize it with the programs that i want to, and then, to save this rom (i supose that i have to dump it and reconstruct it) exactly with my settings/applications/etc. can i do that? if I can, how? thx alll.

When you customize your polaris on the device itself, it doesn't change the ROM on it. So dumping it will not give you a new ROM. You'll have to change the ROM on the desktop, and upload it afterwards. There are a lot of topics about ROM building.

ok. thx. i will go then to that topics. thx.

Yes but the problem is that all those posts are about porting a 6.1 rom from another device to polaris.
Now that we have a 6.1 rom how exactly do we cook it and flash it back?
Here's my problem: I have the PTG 6.1 rom, but I want to replace the CF2 with CF3.5 and replace TTN6 with TTN7, and flash it back.
I already have Kitchen 1.3, extracted the 'RUU_signed.nbh' and a dump of 03_OS.nb.payload.
Now, where do I go from here?. I want a rom that's exactly the same as the official one but with the changes I mentioned above.
I'm a complete noob at this cooking rom issue. I've read lots of threads but I've only gotten more confused about all the XIPs, SYSs, OEMs and stuff, and I think the same happens with other users.
I know that some of the actual cookers were once in the same place I'm now, so can someone point me out the rigth way and if possible post a detailed tutorial on how to extract, cook and flash back a rom on POLARIS, me and lots of users would apreciate it a LOT.

Second That Thought.
What would be nice to see (if possible) the following,
as an example:
1. Download Polaris ROM Kitchen v1.3
2. Extract to c:\Kitchen
3. Copy your ROM image (*.nbh) to X:\
4. Run command
...20. Install Package (M2D.cab) by doing the following ...
21. Recombine the ROM by doing the follow commands ...
22. Flash your ROM to your Polaris
23. Hard Reset and verify that the package you installed is in your ROM
Congrats
A step by step like that, which walks a user though the process of a demo ROM and a demo *.cab for learning would be FANTASTIC!!!
Thanks in advance to whoever can help us out!
Juxtyce

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Any help from the professionals out there?

Look here:
1. .Net2.0 => .net3.5
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2685138&postcount=22
2. replace the ttn.cab file in the folder "\kitchen.work\Build\OEM\OEMAPPS" with the TomTom7 cab. If it don't have the same name, rename the new cab or edit the file 'config_AP.txt' in the same folder
hope it will help you I managed it this way.
P.S. I didn't change the XIP as mentioned in the given thread. See following posts

I will dump the wm6.1 rom for you guys, and provide you with a kitchen with some packages you can use.
I will do so for all available languages that is available with official wm6.1
But,that is gonna be quite time consuming, and I hope that you understand that I ask this in return:
Any small donation for the time I use on that will be of help.
I dont say that its required, not at all. I am not doing this for money.
But the number of hours I spend on this is getting pretty high.
I will do this project either you donate or not.
cheers

thank you a lot itje. can you make in romanian also?

dunno if it's the good topic to post but let's try.
I see many fantastic people cooking excellent roms (i wish i could do the same...), and, in those roms, a lot of softwares.
Isn't it possible to just have a rom with the bare minimum?
and seperate cabs to install what you want?
for example, manilla 2d is cool, but many people like spb mobile shell better, so it's wasted memory.
May be i'm just wrong, don't understanding how it all works, so plz explain to me !

ady_uaic said:
thank you a lot itje. can you make in romanian also?
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if the language is available; yes

taniwha913 said:
Isn't it possible to just have a rom with the bare minimum?
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There is a large choice of ROM's, some loaded with extra's, some very minimally equiped. There are so many that your favorite must be out there already. Just search for it.

WM 6.5 ROM vanilla

I want to flash my Elfin with any WM 6.5 ROM. But the problem is, there are a *lot* of them in the wild, and I'm confused.
In http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=541886, you can see a bar at the bottom which is absent in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426540. Also, in the first one, the start menu is shifted to the bottom.
I'm looking for a simple WM 6.5 ROM with the *least* modifications done to it.
Any recommendations?
Also, is WM6.5 good to use *without* M2D?

First, windows mobile 6.5 is now a very 'loose' build, which means Microsoft just works on the builds and release them as and when they like it and along the way, they work on new BETA features. Or features which do not work well.
Some of the builds have start buttons at the bottom because Microsoft changed some of the features of it (Again, its Microsoft issue).
Do be reminded that Windows Mobile Official 6.5 is not out yet.

Hmmm, thanks for the reply. I have another question.
When I hard reset my phone, M2D, and other M2D components like Audio Manager, HTC Album, Phone Canvas etc. is retained.
When I dump my rom following this guide http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Elf_HowtoDumpRom, will all that stuff be there in the backup? I.e., if I want to flash this backup, will the M2D etc be flashed with it?
If not, is there a way to backup the whole thing? I'm not talking about the apps I install. I'm talking about M2D etc. which are in my ROM since I bought it. Since they are retained even after a hard reset, I guess there must be a way to back them up along with the ROM.

cyanide911 said:
Hmmm, thanks for the reply. I have another question.
When I hard reset my phone, M2D, and other M2D components like Audio Manager, HTC Album, Phone Canvas etc. is retained.
When I dump my rom following this guide http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Elf_HowtoDumpRom, will all that stuff be there in the backup? I.e., if I want to flash this backup, will the M2D etc be flashed with it?
If not, is there a way to backup the whole thing? I'm not talking about the apps I install. I'm talking about M2D etc. which are in my ROM since I bought it. Since they are retained even after a hard reset, I guess there must be a way to back them up along with the ROM.
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evn manila is available as standalone package dude
n wm 6.5 roms
i.e. a touch of 6.5 n onyx rom r working great
stable too
dnt bother n upgrade to any higher rom
just remember to hardspl with 3.10/3.14 n enjoy amy rom here6.1/6.5

wm 6.5 wth manila
hiee
just forgot to mention
manila 2d works on wm 6.5 too
bt u wll lv it without manila

I understand M2D works standalone, but I was just thinking that would the M2D etc which is cooked into my rom be dumped when I dump my rom?
Also, can someone direct me to a guide for HSPL? I found one on this website but it's confusing.

Okay guys, I need some replies fast .
Question:
If I dump my ROM using this method (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Elf_HowtoDumpRom), then *will* the M2D, Audio Manager etc be backed up with it? I think they should, because they were 'cooked' into the ROM, i.e. if I hard reset, they are retained.

...No one?

Well, rom dumping is quite hard.

What? This (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Elf_HowtoDumpRom) process was pretty simple. But do you know the answer to my question?
If I dump my ROM using this method (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index...f_HowtoDumpRom), then *will* the M2D, Audio Manager etc be backed up with it? I think they should, because they were 'cooked' into the ROM, i.e. if I hard reset, they are retained.
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cyanide911 said:
I want to flash my Elfin with any WM 6.5 ROM. But the problem is, there are a *lot* of them in the wild, and I'm confused.
In http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=541886, you can see a bar at the bottom which is absent in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426540. Also, in the first one, the start menu is shifted to the bottom.
I'm looking for a simple WM 6.5 ROM with the *least* modifications done to it.
Any recommendations?
Also, is WM6.5 good to use *without* M2D?
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If you want to do the right thing do it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426540
I've installed in my ELF and works very well!!!!