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Does anyone know how to cook own ROM? I've got Universal and there it's not so hard, mainly if U need only 2 add or remove several files (I'm not speaking about adding AKUs ....)
THX
btw. there must be a way (see pdamobiz) but i dont speak or read thai
For the trinity there is a HEX pack which unpacks the ROM, then you change the device id and country id and you rebuild the rom again. Anyone has additional info in this method?? Maybe is works for the Orbit/Artemis?
i found on buzzdev scooter's rom kitchen i'm gonna try that.
think we are in the right direction.
Scoter rom kitchen can extract the rom on an Orbit I believe...
this looks perfect: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1156254
Hi All
I see now we are getting quite a few custom ROM's from the likes of bepe, panosha and other.
Great Work Guys.
But i would also like to be able to build or a least edit a ROM to exactly meet my requirement. Like adding or removing certain CAB files and making reg edits.
Have been reading a lot of other threads on the site put none seem to deal directly with the Polaris.
So i was hoping some of you great cooks (grovel grovel grovel) would wight a description on how to take a nbh file and extract and edit the different nb parts and then rebuild back to a nbh file ready for flashing.
Thanks
polaris kitchen
sorry......wrong answer
I'd love that too! I want to mod an existing ROM and make it specific to my needs.
Will anyone be so kind and post a short guide how to do this? And make the topic sticky!
First, you can start with Kaiser's Kitchen...and at last, use Dark Simpson tool (htc room tool) to make nbh file (config add Polaris device in tool config)
Cheers,
ouioui
Good place to start is here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser ROM Kitchen Tutorial
Yep , good one, but everything is based on Kaiser.
I don't have a Polaris Radio, neither does the HTC Rom Tool allow to cook Polaris Rom's.
Any other ideas ? Or could someone help ?
Thanks a lot in advance
The Kaiser kitchen works fine and all you need to do with the Dark Simpson ROM tool is change the Model ID from KAIS***** to POLA*****
As always read the threads before you start cooking and make sure you have Hard SPL!!
Thanks
I've been reading all night ;-)
In the HTC Rom tool there is no Polar***** , strange, although I thought I downloaded the newest ini. I've read in another thread that I could use the Kaiser one as it was basically the same device, is that so ?
Other question though:
Talking about Hard-SPL- I've Hard-SPL'd mine , but do I need to include that one in the rom as well ? Like while using the HTC Rom Tool , in the SPL section ???
Second question, where can I find the radio.....nb ?
Thanks for your help, I appreciate that.
As I said set the ROM tool to Kaiser then change the Model ID to POLA***** and use as normal to create the nbh image.
As for Hard SPL... once you´ve flashed it that´s that, no need to flash it every time you change ROMs or radio...
id love to see the guide for polaris aswell.
and oem packages as well.
i did everything as it was sowen in kaiser guide, but i got an error on building system. have no idea why..
was saying that something is missing or path is icorrect smth like that
post here exact errr.U got.
here is htcrt.ini for polaris (only Polaris Option is active) simply rewrite htcrt.ini in folder with htcrt.EXE
It's not necessary to include Radio ROM when building? Right?
nope, its up 2 U what 2 include (SPL/Radio/OS/Splash)
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post here exact errr.U got.
here is htcrt.ini for polaris (only Polaris Option is active) simply rewrite htcrt.ini in folder with htcrt.EXE
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Thanks for the guidance. The tutorial is great but fails to mention specifics if you are not cooking a Kaiser Rom. For example, does the baserom have to come from a shipped Rom? I was using the 3.02 Kaiser Rom as my baserom. Can you do that when cooking a Polaris rom? How do I get the RUU_signed.nbh out of any other Rom. I thought about using the WM6.1 19716 Rom but couldn't extract anything. (Probably stupid questions but cant find answers in the wiki). BTW, I was getting same errors about half-way through compiling process. If I try again today, I will record the errors and post. Again, thx for help.
sgreenwood99M me i have 19716 WM6.1 for cooking. U can Use some part of any ROM but U have to be sure exactly what. In general U can Use OEMpackages freely, but be aware with drivers, baseapps....(i have perfect CZECH 19199 WM6.1 but w/o working SMS)
Hi,
i've read through the Kaiser kitchen guide and it all seems to make sense however i'm not sure how much is relavent to the Polaris, for example the ingredients section talks about expanding the radio file and the rom files to folders, from the Kaiser files on rapidshare etc.
Do us Polaris users do these points too? or are there specific Polaris Radio and ROM files we use?
I have my base ROM file called RUU_signed.nbh and i've also managed to use pdocread to get the RAW files too, but just not sure where to go now?
All i want to do is remove a few cabs and add a few cabs and EXEs to my rom.
can anyone post comments on exactly which parts of the Kaiser kitchen guide need to be changed to use on a Polaris?
thanks.
dont need raw's. simply put *.NBH(polaris) to BaseRom folder. Run begin.cmd(or bat?) Choose option 1.
click......... then start cook.cmd(or bat)
Do we replace the KaiserCustomRUU and the BuildOS files with ones specific to Polaris? Thanks.
yes, take udK CustomRUU & replace kaiser one, u dont need to replace anything else(except htcrt.ini ||KAIS**** replace with POLA***). And of course Polaris' *nbh
Whenever I put a Polaris nbh in the BaseRom folder, the process gives me an error that it cannot find RUU_signed.nbh.
Hello all of you,
Almost my first post.
I am reading many topic's on this website for a long time, yesterday the day comes that i needed to register me.
I have read things about flashing my rom to customised versions.
I like those things much but i would like to edit them on my own so i can customise them for my use, maybe post them on-line.
I have some questions about how to modified some roms...
I now have installed this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=428323
The programs i have installed are:
Polaris Kitchen
Hard spl on my device
Nb extract
imgfs tools
Whit this you can extract the rom i have downloaded and i got 2 maps oem and sys.
Maybe those are stupid questions i don't hope so.
How can i edit the rom now for example:
Add program's from an cab file.
For example only use the tuch flow your htc today how to edit it or use the one from the diamond version?
How to make registery tweaks?
Add maps to your program map.
How to make a rom for another language?
Where to edit settings in the files?
Is it possible to integrate an flash screen into the oem of sys map so you can flash it in one time?
Add a radio rom to the rom file? etc...
Save some settings etc...?
I hope you can help me whit those questions.
What i already have found:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425612
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427499
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427772
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=379559&page=2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311078&highlight=translation
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=381600&highlight=rom+loader
Erik
hy all. i have a problem (wish): i want to install a clean rom ( i have it allready) and i want to customize it with the programs that i want to, and then, to save this rom (i supose that i have to dump it and reconstruct it) exactly with my settings/applications/etc. can i do that? if I can, how? thx alll.
When you customize your polaris on the device itself, it doesn't change the ROM on it. So dumping it will not give you a new ROM. You'll have to change the ROM on the desktop, and upload it afterwards. There are a lot of topics about ROM building.
ok. thx. i will go then to that topics. thx.
Yes but the problem is that all those posts are about porting a 6.1 rom from another device to polaris.
Now that we have a 6.1 rom how exactly do we cook it and flash it back?
Here's my problem: I have the PTG 6.1 rom, but I want to replace the CF2 with CF3.5 and replace TTN6 with TTN7, and flash it back.
I already have Kitchen 1.3, extracted the 'RUU_signed.nbh' and a dump of 03_OS.nb.payload.
Now, where do I go from here?. I want a rom that's exactly the same as the official one but with the changes I mentioned above.
I'm a complete noob at this cooking rom issue. I've read lots of threads but I've only gotten more confused about all the XIPs, SYSs, OEMs and stuff, and I think the same happens with other users.
I know that some of the actual cookers were once in the same place I'm now, so can someone point me out the rigth way and if possible post a detailed tutorial on how to extract, cook and flash back a rom on POLARIS, me and lots of users would apreciate it a LOT.
Second That Thought.
What would be nice to see (if possible) the following,
as an example:
1. Download Polaris ROM Kitchen v1.3
2. Extract to c:\Kitchen
3. Copy your ROM image (*.nbh) to X:\
4. Run command
...20. Install Package (M2D.cab) by doing the following ...
21. Recombine the ROM by doing the follow commands ...
22. Flash your ROM to your Polaris
23. Hard Reset and verify that the package you installed is in your ROM
Congrats
A step by step like that, which walks a user though the process of a demo ROM and a demo *.cab for learning would be FANTASTIC!!!
Thanks in advance to whoever can help us out!
Juxtyce
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Any help from the professionals out there?
Look here:
1. .Net2.0 => .net3.5
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2685138&postcount=22
2. replace the ttn.cab file in the folder "\kitchen.work\Build\OEM\OEMAPPS" with the TomTom7 cab. If it don't have the same name, rename the new cab or edit the file 'config_AP.txt' in the same folder
hope it will help you I managed it this way.
P.S. I didn't change the XIP as mentioned in the given thread. See following posts
I will dump the wm6.1 rom for you guys, and provide you with a kitchen with some packages you can use.
I will do so for all available languages that is available with official wm6.1
But,that is gonna be quite time consuming, and I hope that you understand that I ask this in return:
Any small donation for the time I use on that will be of help.
I dont say that its required, not at all. I am not doing this for money.
But the number of hours I spend on this is getting pretty high.
I will do this project either you donate or not.
cheers
thank you a lot itje. can you make in romanian also?
dunno if it's the good topic to post but let's try.
I see many fantastic people cooking excellent roms (i wish i could do the same...), and, in those roms, a lot of softwares.
Isn't it possible to just have a rom with the bare minimum?
and seperate cabs to install what you want?
for example, manilla 2d is cool, but many people like spb mobile shell better, so it's wasted memory.
May be i'm just wrong, don't understanding how it all works, so plz explain to me !
ady_uaic said:
thank you a lot itje. can you make in romanian also?
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if the language is available; yes
taniwha913 said:
Isn't it possible to just have a rom with the bare minimum?
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There is a large choice of ROM's, some loaded with extra's, some very minimally equiped. There are so many that your favorite must be out there already. Just search for it.
Requesting all those great Rom cookers out here to create a Rom with Manila2d in it. No, not on ExtROM but inside the ROM itself. That would be faster better and faster I think.
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Requesting all those great Rom cookers out here to create a Rom with Manila2d in it. No, not on ExtROM but inside the ROM itself. That would be faster better and faster I think.
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Integrated Manila 2D into cooked ROM is surely a better solution, however most people prefer a clean ROM. Beside due to limitation of the flash size (32MB i think), it would requires to remove lots of even basic application come with the ROM.
not possible due to limited 32 mb storage. even the mms is not included in any ba wm6 rom so can u think for Manila.
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Requesting all those great Rom cookers out here to create a Rom with Manila2d in it. No, not on ExtROM but inside the ROM itself. That would be faster better and faster I think.
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krishan2207 said:
not possible due to limited 32 mb storage. even the mms is not included in any ba wm6 rom so can u think for Manila.
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exactly...
M2D cooked in
I'v tryed to fit "M2D" in a cooked ROM you can get the main files in there' But not enough of the image files, I also did some test builds "without" the calc, media player,dialer,and commManager skins, And Flashed them from "ExtROM" as Themes It Seamed to Work fine But you would still Be adding A large number of files Via ExtROM so not much to be gained (can't say It was any different speed wise)
My origonal Idear was Adding skins to your device like this may, make rom's more fun and the user could change Skins From *.cab files (Themes)
So If you fancy a try and some people are intrested in making some Skins then I'll cook My New V3 and working version of M2D into a "ROM" With all Skins Removed and Post it with One Full Set of Skins in CAB files and folders of files for you to edit and i'll even pack some of your Themes into CABs and we'll see what Comes of it
I would like at least 5 people to be intrested in assisting with skins as I don't Have enough time to do it all
So If you would like to have a GO then you need to say SO or i'll not bother that's my offer regards
swampy395
I think it is a great idea, manila2 in a cab with no skin, and the default skin in a separate .cab so we can replace and tinker with it at leisure
I am in to give a hand!
Ok people think about it just for a minute, Manila 2D has a size of 12 mb, with a rom of 32 mb even if it is compressed we have to cut a lot of things from main rom to make this possible, and the the stupid questions will come, why this or that not work. Thats why i am working on a proper kitchen so the people can choose whatever packages they want in rom and make it themself. So if the rom does not boot or has audio video formats problems or software compatiblity problems this will be the builder configuration fault not mine or any other rom cooker.
Also you can use my last kitchen but you need to add options.xml in OEM and SYS folder to choose the packages
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My original Idea was Adding skins to your device like this may, make rom's more fun and the user could change Skins From *.cab files (Themes)
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Well this is good as idea(i mean the complete customization from cabs and saving space from the skins in the rom area) but you have to make manila not to load on startup because without skin it will just crash and you will have to reset, and there will be infinite loop ...
xplode said:
Also you can use my last kitchen but you need to add options.xml in OEM and SYS folder to choose the packages
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I would love to give this a try, but I don't know enough about the interdependencies of the root packages to build a reliable options.XML file. Could you post a list of the diff packages that are part of the ROM with a notation of which are required, which are nice to have and which can be left out? If you do, then I will try to build an Options.xml file and post it for testing with your kitchen.
I have modded manila2d so the default skin is no more and instead one more of my liking. The resulting cab is 100KB smaller...
It boots fine
Will be posting today
gloomyboy said:
I have modded manila2d so the default skin is no more and instead one more of my liking. The resulting cab is 100KB smaller...
It boots fine
Will be posting today
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you cooked it in rom or what ?
No, I haven´t gone yet for cooking, I just tinkered with the .cab files in the ExtROM folder.
See my separate thread for details
Themes
Hi guys
NO fighting
As my previous post I did some tests and I could get enought of the M2D files in the ROM for IT to boot! and from "rom boot" to "ExtROM Finnish" it doe's not try to load M2D, first load of M2D is after the reset that Terminates ExtROM loading BUT I had to remove 'Calculator,Dialer,WM_Player skins,ring tones and some shortcut, The rom I tested for about 4 days and was as stable as any rom!, And here's a BIG "BUT" Keeping track of all the bits that are needed is a some TASK! in short it will work but it's hard work
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Hi guys
NO fighting
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Fighting???? We are all friends in here.
swampy395 said:
As my previous post I did some tests and I could get enought of the M2D files in the ROM for IT to boot! and from "rom boot" to "ExtROM Finnish" it doe's not try to load M2D, first load of M2D is after the reset that Terminates ExtROM loading BUT I had to remove 'Calculator,Dialer,WM_Player skins,ring tones and some shortcut, The rom I tested for about 4 days and was as stable as any rom!, And here's a BIG "BUT" Keeping track of all the bits that are needed is a some TASK! in short it will work but it's hard work
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I can live without all of the things that you removed as I use alternates for all of them which are loaded into storage anyway and just waste the ROM space.
BUT, as you say, I don't have enough knowledge to know which parts can and can't be dumped from the core ROM. That's why I asked Xplode to make a list. If you can make some kind of list, I'm willing to try and build a suitable options file to be used with his kitchen.
Another thing. I may be slow, but I can't figure out what parts of M2D are in the ROM and what parts are being installed via CAB. I opened the M2D cab and I see that the executables are still in there. If they are in the CAB, what are you loading in the ROM?
motisu said:
Fighting???? We are all friends in here.
I can live without all of the things that you removed as I use alternates for all of them which are loaded into storage anyway and just waste the ROM space.
BUT, as you say, I don't have enough knowledge to know which parts can and can't be dumped from the core ROM. That's why I asked Xplode to make a list. If you can make some kind of list, I'm willing to try and build a suitable options file to be used with his kitchen.
Another thing. I may be slow, but I can't figure out what parts of M2D are in the ROM and what parts are being installed via CAB. I opened the M2D cab and I see that the executables are still in there. If they are in the CAB, what are you loading in the ROM?
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Hello again
I didn't publish that ROM, It was a test 'only' My M2D roms have most of the today plugins removed from rom as you don't need them, you can only have M2D plugin running!! If you remove WMP you loose so many formats 3gp etc. There are many things you can install from cab But cannot leave out thay have to go back in, The end finnished rom plus cabs is just the same size so y bother
P.S. If your useing a swampy rom then you can flash new skins from a cab
Swampy, if you cook my modded M2D you will have some 100Kb more to play with in the first place...
Now, if you zip up your ´Removed´ folder after cooking a barebones rom with M2D in rom we can help you build .cabs that would go in ExtROM an hence we would have a much more modular design
Taskmanager is a good candidate to go on a .cab, some people like one some like another. It pains me to see two installed
Swampy, but there is an alternative to Windows media player,
Mplayer, a 4megs cab. Supports many formats, it is lean and a standard in Linux (available for Windows Mobile)
Download MPlayer for Windows Mobile
You could remove everything to do with windows media player and put them on a .cab, then give users a choice; windows media.cab or mplayer.cab
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Hello again
I didn't publish that ROM, It was a test 'only' My M2D roms have most of the today plugins removed from rom as you don't need them, you can only have M2D plugin running!! If you remove WMP you loose so many formats 3gp etc. There are many things you can install from cab But cannot leave out thay have to go back in, The end finnished rom plus cabs is just the same size so y bother
P.S. If your useing a swampy rom then you can flash new skins from a cab
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Sorry, but I'm still not following you. In the first post of your 20275 thread and in your sig, you have a M2D version. If this isn't the M2d in ROM version, then what is it? If all that you did was leave out the today plugins, what did you use the extra ROM space for? Also, I never use WMP as almost any other player is far better IMHO (Coreplayer, S2P, Tcpmp,Mortplayer, Etc.) If I don't use it, will I still need its support for diff file types?
Swampy´s M2D roms don´t contain M2D in the rom itself but will install it in rom from the storage card whenever you do a hard reset.
So it is basically loading the extra stuff from a custom ExtROM folder in the storage card
Of course I agree it would be better to have M2D in rom proper and say windows media player in a .cab in the ExtROM folder so it can be easily removed if you don´t want it (I certainly don´t want it)
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Now, if you zip up your ´Removed´ folder after cooking a barebones rom with M2D in rom we can help you build .cabs that would go in ExtROM an hence we would have a much more modular design
Taskmanager is a good candidate to go on a .cab, some people like one some like another. It pains me to see two installed
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I agree with gloomyboy. Since there are SO MANY differnt app/utilities that more or less do the same thing, it stands to reason that everybody will have their own preferences. If someone could build a kitchen that really allows you to pick and choose what goes into the ROM, everybody could custom tailor their ROM for what they really use. Unfortunately, AFAIK, all of the kitchens available today only allow periferal change and not major systems changes. I don't know why, maybe it is just my lack of understanding of the core requirements of a ROM and it can't be done any other way. But I can allways wish....
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Swampy´s M2D roms don´t contain M2D in the rom itself but will install it in rom from the storage card whenever you do a hard reset.
So it is basically loading the extra stuff from a custom ExtROM folder in the storage card
Of course I agree it would be better to have M2D in rom proper and say windows media player in a .cab in the ExtROM folder so it can be easily removed if you don´t want it (I certainly don´t want it)
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OK, now I get it. I do that myself with my own home grown EXTROM based more or less on Xplode's new release of M2D with all sorts of shortcuts and config files being copied from my SD card into memory. I am constantly changing my cfg.txt file to include newer versions and getting rid of apps and utilities that I find that I don't use. I think that the ROM should contain all the permanent stuff that will fit and I can't function without.