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Windows Vista on Athena ! I done it !

You want to know how to run Windows Vista on Athena? Well, read on!
Firstly, is not really installing the Vista on Athena, i uses the terminal client services to remote control my desktop.
This is the application i use, it's the TCS in WM6, at least 10x better then the original WM5 one. Simply install it and run it, you will have to have knowledge of remote desktop to set this up. I will not try to cover here because there are some ways. Do a search on the net and you will find lots of into.
Below i attach the WM6 TCS and a screen shot of my Vista Ready Athena!
Haha, you got yourself a UMPC now.

That looks Amazing...
wu5262 said:
You want to know how to run Windows Vista on Athena? Well, read on!
Firstly, is not really installing the Vista on Athena, i uses the terminal client services to remote control my desktop.
This is the application i use, it's the TCS in WM6, at least 10x better then the original WM5 one. Simply install it and run it, you will have to have knowledge of remote desktop to set this up. I will not try to cover here because there are some ways. Do a search on the net and you will find lots of into.
Below i attach the WM6 TCS and a screen shot of my Vista Ready Athena!
Haha, you got yourself a UMPC now.
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Damn that looks good! Can you actually control and view evrything that happens on your vista through your Dopod? Including High Def Movies? (I know I'm pushing it now )

mackaby007 said:
Damn that looks good! Can you actually control and view evrything that happens on your vista through your Dopod? Including High Def Movies? (I know I'm pushing it now )
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yes you can control everything including setting and e-mail, office, outlook. However movie doesn't play for some reason, i am working on it now.

Thanks A Lot!
I've done it. And it works really well!
And indeed much better then the WM5 implementation of TCS.

wu5262 said:
You want to know how to run Windows Vista on Athena? Well, read on!
Firstly, is not really installing the Vista on Athena, i uses the terminal client services to remote control my desktop.
This is the application i use, it's the TCS in WM6, at least 10x better then the original WM5 one. Simply install it and run it, you will have to have knowledge of remote desktop to set this up. I will not try to cover here because there are some ways. Do a search on the net and you will find lots of into.
Below i attach the WM6 TCS and a screen shot of my Vista Ready Athena!
Haha, you got yourself a UMPC now.
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It's never gonna work for me...I'm using XP Home Edition. Home Edition does not support Remote desktop/TCS, even though the application comes with it.
Confirmed by microsoft. It will work with XP Pro though! Might just upgrade it then, but can't remember if that wipes all of my installed apps? Don't fancy re-installing them...way too many.

mackaby007 said:
Might just upgrade it then, but can't remember if that wipes all of my installed apps? Don't fancy re-installing them...way too many.
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nah, it doesn't. upgrade leaves everything as it was- even your desktop, settings, etc.
(i had to upgrade a couple of boxes from XP Home to XP Pro yesterday!)

dalelane said:
nah, it doesn't. upgrade leaves everything as it was- even your desktop, settings, etc.
(i had to upgrade a couple of boxes from XP Home to XP Pro yesterday!)
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yes that is correct
What do you guys think about the tools? know any registry hack to improve the speed?

@ Mackaby007
Try Log Me In

Slave1 said:
@ Mackaby007
Try Log Me In
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yes that is a simple solution as well !

wu5262 said:
You want to know how to run Windows Vista on Athena? Well, read on!
Firstly, is not really installing the Vista on Athena, i uses the terminal client services to remote control my desktop.
This is the application i use, it's the TCS in WM6, at least 10x better then the original WM5 one. Simply install it and run it, you will have to have knowledge of remote desktop to set this up. I will not try to cover here because there are some ways. Do a search on the net and you will find lots of into.
Below i attach the WM6 TCS and a screen shot of my Vista Ready Athena!
Haha, you got yourself a UMPC now.
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Hi Wu, I tried to use the remote terminal with Universal. It works, however I cannot type neither using the Universal keyboard nor the softkeyboard of the Universal. How do you keyed in text when you are remote accessing your PC?

xandergk2007 said:
Hi Wu, I tried to use the remote terminal with Universal. It works, however I cannot type neither using the Universal keyboard nor the softkeyboard of the Universal. How do you keyed in text when you are remote accessing your PC?
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that is strange, mine one works, you can just type with the actual keyboard. At least it works on Athena, not sure about Universal

wu5262 said:
that is strange, mine one works, you can just type with the actual keyboard. At least it works on Athena, not sure about Universal
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same here, no key (hard button as well, not work)

Hi,
keyboard works perfect on my t-mobile Ameo!
Thanks for the great app. It really improves remote desktop usage on the ameo.
Johannes

Need some help please...
wu5262 said:
that is strange, mine one works, you can just type with the actual keyboard. At least it works on Athena, not sure about Universal
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Hey Wu. Can you or anyone else who has successfully got the WM6 Remote Desktop to work on the Athena please give me some guidance?
1st. Thanks for the link Slave 1.....the web based 'LogMein' works a treat!
Wu..I done a clean install of XP Pro (supports TCS and Remote Desktop) and I installed all necessary components for XP & Remote Desktop. Activated 'Allow users....to Remote Desktop' etc.. My problem is not knowing what to put in the 'Domain' section in the WM6 Remote Desktop application. Is Domain the same as IP? Forgive my ignorance on this...I'm a noob to this..
If it's IP info required for this part, which one? I think I have a static IP address, but am not sure. When I check my IP over the web it is different to what shows up for my PC??!!
I'm confused now. This I believe is my only glitch now. Help please. 'LogMeIn.com' works fine, but it's implementation leaves a lot to be desired and all of you guys seem to really like the WM6 style.
Pointers please.

mackaby007 said:
Hey Wu. Can you or anyone else who has successfully got the WM6 Remote Desktop to work on the Athena please give me some guidance?
1st. Thanks for the link Slave 1.....the web based 'LogMein' works a treat!
Wu..I done a clean install of XP Pro (supports TCS and Remote Desktop) and I installed all necessary components for XP & Remote Desktop. Activated 'Allow users....to Remote Desktop' etc.. My problem is not knowing what to put in the 'Domain' section in the WM6 Remote Desktop application. Is Domain the same as IP? Forgive my ignorance on this...I'm a noob to this..
If it's IP info required for this part, which one? I think I have a static IP address, but am not sure. When I check my IP over the web it is different to what shows up for my PC??!!
I'm confused now. This I believe is my only glitch now. Help please. 'LogMeIn.com' works fine, but it's implementation leaves a lot to be desired and all of you guys seem to really like the WM6 style.
Pointers please.
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you don't really need to type in anything in the domain, you can leave it blank, the most important part is the first one, the computer name, you have to type in the IP address of your computer, or your actual computer name if you are connecting on a local network. check your computer IP, and just put it in there, it should work.

Hi
I have a problem in that i can only get the remote working via wi-fi (same network) but when im away and i type the ip adress while on t-mobile internet, i can't connect at all. i have disabled firewall and anti virus but still can't connect. I can only connect while im on the same network
any ideas?

bashi007 said:
Hi
I have a problem in that i can only get the remote working via wi-fi (same network) but when im away and i type the ip adress while on t-mobile internet, i can't connect at all. i have disabled firewall and anti virus but still can't connect. I can only connect while im on the same network
any ideas?
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you need to forward the port, if i remember correctly, it's 3389 to your computer IP. Do a search on xda about port forwarding
thanks for Moskus for correcting me

I think the port is 3389...

great, it works!! thanksd alot guys

If someone got problem on the keyboard and button.
Try to install in the Device but not the MicroDrive.
I got it work after I reinstall it
HAPPY!!!!!!!!!!!!

Linux on Shift

Hlo from germany!
Think it's my first post here, but still visiting this site since my first HTC Universal.
My Shift didn't arrive yet
So there's a thread about XP on Shift. How do you get managed to install XP on the device?
Is booting via USB-CDRom possible or is there another way like Sharing a CD-Drive via network as MacBookAir uses or creating a bootable USB-Stick?
Anyone tried to run/install Ubuntu or smth. similar?
thx in advance!
TeCE

ubuntu 8.04 runs out of the box without much issues, you can even install it from vista itself using wubi-installer: http://wubi-installer.org/
-not working:
* resume after suspend
* touch screen (you have to use mouse)
-needs some tweaking:
* for 3g you need to install synce and use the usbtool to establish an activesync connection with snapvue through usb
* for wifi you need to manually compile the marvell 8686 drivers
- the rest works perfect (mouse, keyboard, bluetooth, screen backlight, sound, etc...)
I have also run slax from a pendrive, same issues as in ubuntu

That's great, i really want to do this. I want to try running Skype for Linux (which now does video) instead of the windows version. I'm pretty sure that the Linux version of Skype will be a little less processory hungry and work better.
How do you manually compile te drivers for wifi?
Any thoughts on enabling the touchscreen?

Ubuntu will bring out a version for umpc's:
Link: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/mobile

salmon said:
That's great, i really want to do this. I want to try running Skype for Linux (which now does video) instead of the windows version. I'm pretty sure that the Linux version of Skype will be a little less processory hungry and work better.
How do you manually compile te drivers for wifi?
Any thoughts on enabling the touchscreen?
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let me laugh .. ubuntu less processory hungy ? .. linux is not good with this ..

pof said:
- the rest works perfect (mouse, keyboard, bluetooth, screen backlight, sound, etc...)
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pof, can you post the dmesg output ? Is it known which hardware is used inside the device ?

thanks !!!
pof said:
ubuntu 8.04 runs out of the box without much issues, you can even install it from vista itself using wubi-installer: http://wubi-installer.org/
-not working:
* resume after suspend
* touch screen (you have to use mouse)
-needs some tweaking:
* for 3g you need to install synce and use the usbtool to establish an activesync connection with snapvue through usb
* for wifi you need to manually compile the marvell 8686 drivers
- the rest works perfect (mouse, keyboard, bluetooth, screen backlight, sound, etc...)
I have also run slax from a pendrive, same issues as in ubuntu
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Thank you so much; this is really great news! Reading about Google Android project I was dreaming about running linux on this machine but i didn`t hope it could be done so quickly...now i am working on kubuntu and i think it is going pretty well...I think Vista would make sense if one could have more powerful CPU and more RAM but of course with SP1 especially if you disable some power-hungry visual effects it is usable, nevertheless it is good to have an alternative OS...

pof said:
ubuntu 8.04 runs out of the box without much issues, you can even install it from vista itself using wubi-installer: http://wubi-installer.org/
-not working:
* resume after suspend
* touch screen (you have to use mouse)
-needs some tweaking:
* for 3g you need to install synce and use the usbtool to establish an activesync connection with snapvue through usb
* for wifi you need to manually compile the marvell 8686 drivers
- the rest works perfect (mouse, keyboard, bluetooth, screen backlight, sound, etc...)
I have also run slax from a pendrive, same issues as in ubuntu
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Hi How are yo finding Ubuntu on the shift so far in terms of:
-Battery life compared to similar tasks in vista with the shift?
-Boot up time vs vista?
-Speed of response versus vista?
I'm not really bothered about use of linux on this device unless it has some real advantages or some must have application that xp of vista don't. I certainly see the advantage of windows mobile as there are some real advantages in battery power extra functionality for example with ubook reader for windows mobile the shift could be an excellent ebook readr.
I can't wait until I can put some money aside for one.

cr2 said:
pof, can you post the dmesg output ? Is it known which hardware is used inside the device ?
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hi cr2 find attached dmesg, lspci & lsusb output. There are inside photos from the FCC, but it is much like a normal PC connected to a MSM7200 trough internal usb port, sharing screen and keyboard in a single box
lovespuds said:
Hi How are yo finding Ubuntu on the shift so far in terms of:
-Battery life compared to similar tasks in vista with the shift?
-Boot up time vs vista?
-Speed of response versus vista?
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- battery life in linux is similar to vista, probably a bit less.
-boot up is faster in linux compared to windows boot up, but slower if you just suspend vista. You can't suspend the shift under linux yet.
-linux as always is more responsive than vista, you can even enable all the eye-candy stuff (3d effects and such) and it is still faster than vista in that way.

pof said:
hi cr2 find attached dmesg, lspci & lsusb output.
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Ok There is something wrong with the SDHCI driver, but i think it's easy to fix.
Dumping the amibios should be easy too.

the shift project is also working on proper drivers to fix the problems within linux using our friends who have then already. the proper work will begin soon when cmonex and ltxda get their devices.

Pawel062 said:
the shift project is also working on proper drivers to fix the problems within linux using our friends who have then already. the proper work will begin soon when cmonex and ltxda get their devices.
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i wasn't aware getting linux to work better was a plan for shift project.

cmonex said:
i wasn't aware getting linux to work better was a plan for shift project.
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ltxda wants to work on it when he gets his in. remember hes working on the os side meaning xp etc..

Linux on HTC Shift
I have published some instructions to get Linux working on the Shift here:
http://pof.eslack.org/blog/2008/04/14/linux-on-htc-shift/
Enjoy

pof said:
I have published some instructions to get Linux working on the Shift here:
http://pof.eslack.org/blog/2008/04/14/linux-on-htc-shift/
Enjoy
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hi pof, i've learned from your blog that there is a library to support the fingerprint scanner.
BTW, can you run 'strings' on the touchscreen driver ?

cr2 said:
can you run 'strings' on the touchscreen driver ?
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I attach the touchscreen driver here, it seems to be a wacom device, however linux doesn't recognize it. I've tried to cat all the /dev/input/event* and /dev/ttyS* with no luck.

Finally suspend working like a charm
http://pof.eslack.org/blog/2008/04/21/suspend-resume-in-htc-shift/

pof,
i think you'd dump amibios, decompile the DSDT, and look for the plug and pray config.
If the wacom driver is on a serial port, then it should be configured/activated there.

Opening the File in Plaintext Editor Shows some Debug-Information and API-References. Seems to do it "real serial" .. ?

tece said:
Opening the File in Plaintext Editor Shows some Debug-Information and API-References. Seems to do it "real serial" .. ?
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Yesterday night we where looking at it with cr2, we're not sure yet if is serial or connected via the i2c bus. The Vista driver does not give much clues, and linux can't see the device directly.
As you can use the touchscreen in windows mobile (msm7200) at the same time than in the intel side, i think the i2c bus has more possibilities.
I mailed HTC during the weekend asking for a datasheet or some extra information, but haven't received an answer yet.

HTC Storage Card 2.0

Hi!
Can somebody get one cab?
(HTC Storage Settings 2.0)

((((((((((((((((((((((((

What would that cab exactly be/do?

tnyynt said:
What would that cab exactly be/do?
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HTC Storage Settings 2.0

LazaPasi said:
HTC Storage Settings 2.0
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I can read!
What does it do my friend?

tnyynt said:
I can read!
What does it do my friend?
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SDHC driver,and USB MASS Storage application!

Nonsense.... for SDHC it can't be a generic application, it should be device-specific, and for a mass storage just get an old and good WM5torage. Easy.

LazaPasi said:
SDHC driver,and USB MASS Storage application!
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Here is the driver.
As for Mass Storage application, I've never heard HTC having this app (besides the built in app from Diamond, which allows to choose sync mode or mass storage device for the internal memory - by the way, cannot be ported to any other device yet). I can recommend you WM5torage, as utak3r said, which you can grab here.
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Nonsense.... for SDHC it can't be a generic application, it should be device-specific...
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You are wrong. The SDHC driver is a generic driver (which is by now probably built in every cooked ROM and official WM6.x ROM) and resides in \Windows folder, being called sdhc_sc2410.dll
As fof the one I attached, it enables the use of this driver. Benchmark results after applying this patch are more than 500%-1.000% speed gain!

I use Card export II. Works great and its a good investment and there tech support line is awesome. By the way wm 6.1 compatible.
http://www.softick.com/pocket-pc/cardexport2/

I have tried many SDHC drivers for Himalaya Devices..but all it does is create more problems by Removing the Storage Card Driver...

http://pdaplus.hu/images/mrmarkus/ss2.jpg
where are cab?

Can someone please help me??
I installed wm5 storage on my Kaiser and now I can't access the Storage card anymore, I can't seem to do anything to sort this problem...
Please help!!

Invisible Sense said:
Can someone please help me??
I installed wm5 storage on my Kaiser and now I can't access the Storage card anymore, I can't seem to do anything to sort this problem...
Please help!!
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WM5torage locks your SD Card while using it. Deactivate WM5torage and you'll be fine.

LazaPasi said:
Hi!
Can somebody get one cab?
(HTC Storage Settings 2.0)
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i don't know about 2.0 but this will def work or at least it works on athena.
1st. you need mort script if you want you device to stay alive while transferring large files or you need to keep taping the screen every few minutes. also the program is installed to \windows its called USBtoPC.exe but the icons and the scripts are installed to \My Documents
you can use this with out mort script just create a shortcut "\Windows\USBtoPC.exe" and it will work but you will have to keep it alive. also you will see a microdrive and microsd thats because i have an athena and it has two drives so if you click on one of the scripts and plug it in if it does not work unplug wait about a minute or two and click on the other script then plug it in.

tnyynt said:
Here is the driver.
As for Mass Storage application, I've never heard HTC having this app (besides the built in app from Diamond, which allows to choose sync mode or mass storage device for the internal memory - by the way, cannot be ported to any other device yet). I can recommend you WM5torage, as utak3r said, which you can grab here.
You are wrong. The SDHC driver is a generic driver (which is by now probably built in every cooked ROM and official WM6.x ROM) and resides in \Windows folder, being called sdhc_sc2410.dll
As fof the one I attached, it enables the use of this driver. Benchmark results after applying this patch are more than 500%-1.000% speed gain!
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anyone tried this sdhc driver on older device? like the htc wizard (qtek 9100)? is it working?

VOODOOS!L said:
anyone tried this sdhc driver on older device? like the htc wizard (qtek 9100)? is it working?
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it wan't work because of the hardware not beeing compatable

i activate it after that soft reset and now when i start that program it isalways activete not deactivate!
when i press activate my phone die

venkov said:
i activate it after that soft reset and now when i start that program it isalways activete not deactivate!
when i press activate my phone die
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Press activate ur phone will be flash memory
press deactivate ur phone comes back

The_hesham said:
Press activate ur phone will be flash memory
press deactivate ur phone comes back
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when i press active my phone DIES

i made hard reset

USB stick feature

Hy everybody,
I'm new to this forum so please be a bit patient.
I have an HTC Touch Cruise phone and a Ubuntu Machine. What I want to do is copy files on to my Cruise from the Ubuntu Machine. I've heard of WMStorage (even tried it and it didn't work). I've seen though that the Diamond has a nice feature that asks to chose between active sync and mass storage device when connecting to a PC. Is there an alternative to that for the Cruise?

try Softick CardExport , works only for the tf card tho ...

We had exactly that question before...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=415361
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...oops. I missed the ubuntu-part. The threat I mentioned is for Windows only.
Sorry!

I got Card Export and it works like a dream. Too bad I'll have to buy it, but as long as there's no alternative that's it.

so what raphael is apear what possible to port some program for USB stick feature

Sync with Mac OSX

Hello friends. I am waiting to buy the HD Blackstone here in Greece. I am a Mac user Mac OSX 10.5.5 (Leopard) and as i have read in the net no one has a working 100% way of synchronizing. Does anyone used a way to sync the HD successfully yet? Thank's a lot

http://www.markspace.com/
This is working fine with my HD as it has done with all my Windows Mobiles..

I can confirm it works great with missing sync under OS X
You can aswell install cab files from it.

You mean with Missing Sync for Windows Mobile? But in the supported devices there is only HTC touch. Did you try sync mate?

polakis said:
You mean with Missing Sync for Windows Mobile? But in the supported devices there is only HTC touch. Did you try sync mate?
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it works with all the windows mobile 6. it is just a standard program that run on your mac.
It will require to install a cab file on your phone.
I've tried it with HTC touch Diamond, Treo 750 & Kaiser.
Haven't tried with the touch HD as I don't have it.
Very tempted to buy it but still love my iphone 3G.

cab file? Thank you!

polakis said:
cab file? Thank you!
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yup, once you connect to the software, it will push a cab file to be installed.
It is straight forward.

Thank you again mate!

sync htc with mac os x
can anybody suggest a free sync for htc mobiles with mac os x?
Thanks inadvance

Use SyncMate (Freeware) or
SyncMate Expert.
Much better than missing sync !!!
Your pocketpc connects on internet via usb or wifi as simple as activesync connection...

I agree, SyncMate is probably the best way to go.
I have only tried the free version and it takes like 3 hours to sync a couple GB worth of music so it might be worth it to pay the $10 USD for it.
Missing Sync has a couple nice features but costs $40 USD. I tried out missing sync and it messed up all of my system settings such as ringtones and notification settings, etc. It is nice though because there is an option to convert any .m4a files to a type that is readable by your phone where SyncMate doesn't have that option.
I have also tried DoubleTwist which is supposed to be nice and it is free. It completely messed up my phone though and I ended up having to format both my phone and SD card to correct it.

try syncmate