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Wizard as a Vista Sideshow device?

You'd think it would be built in, but does anyone know if it will be possible to use the Wizard as a Windows Sideshow device in Vista? I got a horizontal dock for this thing just so I'd be able to run a gadget or two on it, but I'm surprised they didn't have it working out of the box ... with the popularity of the Wizard at Microsoft.

A quick search on google shows that there is quite a lot of interest for this.
IMO, it is almost certain this functionality will be added to Windows Mobile devices; lets just hope they don't limit it to WM6 devices.
Jörg

Very Good idea, I got some old phones with 2.5" LCD working, it is now time to wake them!

um.. install resco photo viewer.. i remember this feature on my hp6515a and after installing resco i have it back!

jacob-mda said:
um.. install resco photo viewer.. i remember this feature on my hp6515a and after installing resco i have it back!
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I guess they meant side show not slide show

whats the difference lol

jacob-mda said:
whats the difference lol
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Sideshow is a technology included with Windows Vista that allows for an external LCD to display widgets, even with the PC powered off. This allows you to see at a glance the weather, if you have e-mail, etc. It's primary use is in tiny LCDs on notebook covers, though if you could use your mobile for this, that would be really neat too.

MS is working on an app that does work on the Wizard, I have used a beta. It was very bugy but it worked.

How about this:
http://www.innobec.com/en/products.php
It adds a virtual display driver to your Windows (XP); this display is an activesync-connected PDA.
I have tried the trial version, and it appears to work (allthough a bit unstable, but I was using a bluetooth connection at the time).
Jörg

alandashby said:
MS is working on an app that does work on the Wizard, I have used a beta. It was very bugy but it worked.
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Can you upload that beta?

V J said:
How about this:
http://www.innobec.com/en/products.php
It adds a virtual display driver to your Windows (XP); this display is an activesync-connected PDA.
I have tried the trial version, and it appears to work (allthough a bit unstable, but I was using a bluetooth connection at the time).
Jörg
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This doesn't work with Active Sync 4.5 and or WM6
looks like they might be scrapping the development of this because of the similar features in vista.

computer9cowboy said:
This doesn't work with Active Sync 4.5 and or WM6 looks like they might be scrapping the development of this because of the similar features in vista.
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Hah, I hadn't tried it with 4.5; nor does my device have WM6. But in a way it makes sense to stop this functionality. Still, I only recently came across it and thought it could have given some people some ideas.
Jörg

V J said:
Hah, I hadn't tried it with 4.5; nor does my device have WM6. But in a way it makes sense to stop this functionality. Still, I only recently came across it and thought it could have given some people some ideas.
Jörg
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I wasn't crapping on it, I think it looks cool. I wish it worked for me. I would rather have WM6 than a 320x240 extension to my desktop though. I already have a dual monitor setup.

Sidewindow can be alternative of sideshow but you have to run samurize plugins on that display to look like sideshow. Microsoft states that mobile devices can be used as sideshow with vista, i have tryed many ways and i have no success with this task

I saw one of the Microsoft Powerpoint presentations on their website presenting the sideshow feature and one of the devices among the usual picture frames and things was actually a Smartphone, it looks like in house at microsoft they have done it but jsut not yet for us. EDIT: See http://download.microsoft.com/downl...56b-d47a59388df0/pdc_2005_auxilarydisplay.ppt

Just came across this:
http://www.zoneos.com/index.htm
It works with ActiveSync 4.5 and with WM5 (even though the ppc executable only states 2003). Functionality is the same as the innobec software: it adds a virtual display driver.
Jörg

V J said:
Just came across this:
http://www.zoneos.com/index.htm
It works with ActiveSync 4.5 and with WM5 (even though the ppc executable only states 2003). Functionality is the same as the innobec software: it adds a virtual display driver.
Jörg
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Works on WiFi with Server 2003 and WM6 as the client. Very cool, not very usefull but very cool.

Could someone post the Pocket PC and Windows Vista files for ZoneScreen? Unfortunately, the author has removed all the files from his site in favor of the open source release (http://sourceforge.net/projects/zonescreen/) which only has the files for Windows XP.

Best uses for Sideshow
The best usage of this will be with remote controls for Media Center PC's. You'll be able to sit outside on the porch and browse your music files or other media without needing to see the TV screen. This way you can have speakers outside and you can play whatever music you want. Added functionality will be when they finally make the app for windows mobile devices so that you won't even need a third party remote. With 3G devices such as the Hermes (8525) you won't even need to connect via wifi or bluetooth. You'll see all your album art, receive feedback of "now playing" items, etc. It will turn your pda into an expensive 2-way touchpanel such as Crestron, AMX, or ELAN offer. I say screw the laptops. Check out this link and then imagine that on your PDA.
<http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/21/ricavisions-vista-mce-sideshow-remote-does-bluetooth-at-100-met/>

All those complaining about why it doesn't work on vista:
You need ActiveSync for this application which has been replaced with Mobile Device User Center, so it doesn't work. I hope there's an update on the way to make it work, because in partnership with konfabulator widgets, it's incredible. It had it built in a case, and it displayed all the systems specs via widgets.

Looking to buy a Universal

I'm interesting in the current asking price of a Universal.
My primary interest is to use it with the RDP client to connect to windows due to its VGA screen - and thats about it.
Is it still quite an expensive bit of kit? And are there any hopes of swapping Blue Angel for one, as thats only a QVGA screen.
Cheers for any advice that can be given.

FYI, RDP client is there only in WM6(which has its share of bugs). If you use those files in WM5 for RDP client, you cannot use the built in hard keyboard or soft(onscreen) keyboard.
Note: RDP is not there in any WM5 ROM

I have a .cab that runs perfectly on my WM5 rom for the BA.
I've attached the one I use fine on BA.

Biohead said:
I have a .cab that runs perfectly on my WM5 rom for the BA.
I've attached the one I use fine on BA.
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I was talking about this file exactly

Biohead said:
I'm interesting in the current asking price of a Universal.
My primary interest is to use it with the RDP client to connect to windows due to its VGA screen - and thats about it.
Is it still quite an expensive bit of kit? And are there any hopes of swapping Blue Angel for one, as thats only a QVGA screen.
Cheers for any advice that can be given.
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Check your PM.

@Kdskamal: So would I be able to fully use RDP @ 640x480 on a Uni at all?
@bukwit: PM'd back

Biohead said:
@Kdskamal: So would I be able to fully use RDP @ 640x480 on a Uni at all?
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Yes, only if you use WM6. As I have already said, using the abovementioned cab by you wont let you enter any input via keyboard. So, if you can live with the issues of wm6(mainly, inability to connect to wpa-tsk wifi network and some video call issues), then, you'll be happy with universal

kdskamal said:
Yes, only if you use WM6. As I have already said, using the abovementioned cab by you wont let you enter any input via keyboard. So, if you can live with the issues of wm6(mainly, inability to connect to wpa-tsk wifi network and some video call issues), then, you'll be happy with universal
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Not true, if you install the above CAB on WM5, then you can use fullscreen RDP and there is no problem with the hardware keyboard at all! I just tried it yesterday on my WM5 Uni, it works great! There are a few bugs with it however:
- You must manually connect to the internet first, the RDP client will not connect for you. If you don't do this, then the RDP client will just report a strange error message.
- The "fit remote desktop to screen" option is permanently enabled. It doesn't make any difference if you tick this option box or not. This means that the remote screen will always be 640x480, which is no problem for me.
- It doesn't seem to close properly on first attempt. I have the X button of SPB Pocket Plus, and this does not close it first time - I have to ALT+TAB back to it and close it a second time before it will be properly closed.
Some or all of these bugs may only appear on WM5, but they are all very minor IMHO. Once again I can confirm that both fullscreen 640x480 VGA mode and the hardware keyboard on the Uni works perfectly in WM5, so enjoy!!! This new RDP client is incredibly fast and responsive, I use it all the time to connect to my home PC with the T-Mobile unlimited 3G data plan

Fun with Remote Desktop/Win7.

Was a little bored and thought I'd Remote my Win7 Netbook with the Xperia.
Had a laugh at the expense of some of my fellow Engineers/Computer Scientists.
Some figured it instantly, some had no clue, believes it really was running Win7, some thought it was themes etc of course, and came up with smart arse ideas of what it _must_ be
Bit I found the funniest is that the damn Xperia actually has a higher resolution that the netbook I was remoting with it.
Yes, that's really how big the damned Windows Live messenger is on my laptop(netbooks) 10" screen.
Yes, I photoshop on it, although I use a mouse that's worth more than the netbook itself (touchpads too cramped)
Yes, it's running Win7 and WinXP perfectly. (Infact it's also running Mac OSX 10.5.6 and Fedora 10 also, but those two partitions aren't shown in Win7.

nice ... but things will be tiny and even using the stylus will be tricky...
I tried several RDP progs... there is also a nice one with zoom ability found here in the forums called gamma.. but it requires a server/client files and not the windows RDP.
Good to know its working on win 7

mystkai said:
nice ... but things will be tiny and even using the stylus will be tricky...
I tried several RDP progs... there is also a nice one with zoom ability found here in the forums called gamma.. but it requires a server/client files and not the windows RDP.
Good to know its working on win 7
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i use remote desktop too on my xperia with windows 7 and it renders beautifully, the icons and fonts dont look tiny @ all nd i havn't had any poblem using the stylus..its kinda surprising the depth of the color u get on the x1 in full screen and 16bit color(beautiful sight)..

Lol
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i use remote desktop too on my xperia with windows 7 and it renders beautifully, the icons and fonts dont look tiny @ all nd i havn't had any poblem using the stylus..its kinda surprising the depth of the color u get on the x1 in full screen and 16bit color(beautiful sight)..
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The damn thing looks better on my Xperia than it does on the laptop itself. I just wish I could get WOL-over the internet working on my desktop at home so I could remote to it from work, but I just can't get the system to wake on the magic packets. Then I could do what i need to and then put it back to sleep.

which remote desktop software do u use?

Same question here, so far I found crappy RDP programs that don't allow me to type anything or have numlock always on.

Lol
Xcuseme said:
Same question here, so far I found crappy RDP programs that don't allow me to type anything or have numlock always on.
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Yep, standard RDP program, it works fine for me and I can type etc. What's the problem?

I have no idea!
I use the software with the original name 'Remote Desktop' (the flatscreen-with-satellite-dish-icon) right now. It does not allow me to type anything as soon as the connection is made. The soft keyboard as well as the fixed keyboard don't work.
The version I had before this (same software differrent version?) did allow me to type but always had the numlock on, without the option to turn it off.
There must me a right version out there

Xcuseme said:
I have no idea!
I use the software with the original name 'Remote Desktop' (the flatscreen-with-satellite-dish-icon) right now. It does not allow me to type anything as soon as the connection is made. The soft keyboard as well as the fixed keyboard don't work.
The version I had before this (same software differrent version?) did allow me to type but always had the numlock on, without the option to turn it off.
There must me a right version out there
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whats, the problem? im typing this post via remote desktop on my xperia, its typing, obviouskly, and numlock isnt on cause all the uiojklm:' keys work.
test:
123456789
[email protected]/&()12;
you prob just have the blue button double pressed (shift lock)

alias_neo said:
you prob just have the blue button double pressed (shift lock)
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Ah yes! Those are the answers I'm looking for. Come on...
Does anybody have a link where you got the software you're using? I have the feeling there are several different versions out there...

Relax
Xcuseme said:
Ah yes! Those are the answers I'm looking for. Come on...
Does anybody have a link where you got the software you're using?
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I hope that wasn't sarcasm. Because although I keep an archive of all cabs I install, I can sometimes get forgetful about where I keep them.....

ofcourse forgot the smiley. sorry...
I'm really not sure what kind of software it is since it used to come with WM5. There are no commercial solutions that work with Microsoft RDP are there?

Good.
Xcuseme said:
ofcourse forgot the smiley. sorry...
I'm really not shure what kind of software it is since it used to come with WM5. There are no commercial solutions that work with Microsoft RDP are there?
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Well the one I'm using is connecting straight to Windows 7, I didnt install any sort of server, so yes, it connects to Microsoft Remote Desktop.
Apology accepted, my memory is suddenly becoming more clear
Here you go, enjoy.

i use a different program, but im guessing its all the same program with different names and sizes, if anyone has a problem with any of the other cabs and wants to give the one im using a try, just gimme a shout(i dnt wanna post anything on here b4 i get the boot..lol, i believe the program is free though)
i basically work from my phone nowadays by the way...

The version from alias_neo is working much better! I am able to use correct keyboard functions. Thanks for that, I'm glad you have such flexible memory
Lakeside00, what kind of rdp tool are you using?

alias_neo said:
I just wish I could get WOL-over the internet working on my desktop at home so I could remote to it from work, but I just can't get the system to wake on the magic packets. Then I could do what i need to and then put it back to sleep.
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r u on a router? on newer routers, u have to remote log on to router, then issue the WOL command inside the router.

Xcuseme said:
The version from alias_neo is working much better! I am able to use correct keyboard functions. Thanks for that, I'm glad you have such flexible memory
Lakeside00, what kind of rdp tool are you using?
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its called wm6 Finster-rdp..ihave so many cabs saved for my phone that its so difficult finding what i need nowadays..

Yep
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r u on a router? on newer routers, u have to remote log on to router, then issue the WOL command inside the router.
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Yep, I'm on a router, but I had the relevent port forwarded through it. I have no way to send the WOL packets from my routers remote administration page.... as far as I know.

Xcuseme said:
The version from alias_neo is working much better! I am able to use correct keyboard functions. Thanks for that, I'm glad you have such flexible memory
Lakeside00, what kind of rdp tool are you using?
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No Problem, glad I could help.

Remote desktop mobile - h e l p please

Hi People
I'm searching for a great remote desktop mobile for my new HD2 and have problems to find something good.
I'd love to install LogMeIn, but i suppose is impossible at this moment,
This Night i found this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFiDZ_wBAtM&NR=1&feature=fvwp
I suppose is from RDM plus, i install a demo version 3.7.6 and it is very different compared to the Remote desktop mobile from youtube Video.
Where can i find the remote desktop mobile from youtube video?
Need your help, please
Thanks

That's the remote desktop client that comes with Windows mobile 6.5. It's in your start menu, in the tools folder

boss the remote desk top shown in you tube vedio is same as in hd2 .........
its not different ........

Logmein - Ignition works just fine.
or as the others just said - just use the one that came with your HD2.

just wondering whether anyone could help us to set it up step by step...
also just wondering do you have to have a router or it can also work on wireless USB broadband (thats what i have)

I used the theme in our forum for this, but I didnt succeeded with it, because Im using PPPoE internet and when I set everything, their appears conflict and the internet drops...

I found the app already, but what I'm looking for is how I can setup the use of a remote desktop gatewayserver?
The server I address is an IP-address, but in the Windows 7 setting, I need to specify this gatewayserver.
I'm no admin, so I can't install something @ server side.
Thanks for your help!
Koen
PS I was even trying to run only Remote App, instead of Remote Desktop...

johncmolyneux said:
That's the remote desktop client that comes with Windows mobile 6.5. It's in your start menu, in the tools folder
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Hi My Friend
First, Thanks for your help
Where can I find a document explain how configure windows Vista with the WM6.5 Remote Control Mobile?
Best Regards

mrmomoman said:
Logmein - Ignition works just fine.
or as the others just said - just use the one that came with your HD2.
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Hi
I create an account inside LogMeIn, but i can't found a cab or something to associate HTC HD2.
I search inside google LogMeIn PDA and can't see results, they only have to iphone.
Inside LogMeIn a add my computer, but i can't see to add PDA.
I will send an e-mail to LogMeIn, if can send me a PDA.cab
I dont like this company, there site is very complex
Best Regards people

Hi
Finally can connect my htc hd2 to windows vista with Remote Desktop Mobile.
The Youtube video man can zoom image, but I can't
Did i need to activate something?????
Need some help
Thanks

Anastomosys said:
Hi
Finally can connect my htc hd2 to windows vista with Remote Desktop Mobile.
The Youtube video man can zoom image, but I can't
Did i need to activate something?????
Need some help
Thanks
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First off - well done on getting it working
Secondly, install BsB Tweaks (if you haven't already) as that will let you fix both zooming and auto-rotating in it.
In BsB you can say you want to add an app for either zooming or rotating (you do them seperately, but it's the same process). You'll have to shake the device to let BsB know which app to make changes for. Just make sure you do it on a connected session (in remote desktop), NOT the login screen. They're 2 different things.

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First off - well done on getting it working
Secondly, install BsB Tweaks (if you haven't already) as that will let you fix both zooming and auto-rotating in it.
In BsB you can say you want to add an app for either zooming or rotating (you do them seperately, but it's the same process). You'll have to shake the device to let BsB know which app to make changes for. Just make sure you do it on a connected session (in remote desktop), NOT the login screen. They're 2 different things.
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Hi
My Friend, it's done...works with perfection.
Thanks a lot
Best Regards and Excellent 2010

Remote Desktop and VNC Issues

Ok, i know this one has probably been done to death, and yes i have searched the internet and this board for an answer and i couldn't find it. So what is my question you may ask?
My question is this. Where do i find a working remote desktop application for windows mobile 6.5 (OS version 5.2.21869) rom version 1.66.405.2 (FYI my provider is O2-UK, the device is fresh out of the factory and not O2 branded). I have an app installed at the monent that is supposed to work but all i get is a "connecting" message and nothing more and that's using wifi to a windows 2003 SBS server or my windows 7 pro desktop. I have tried IP address's and hostnames and still nothing. I did notice that if i connected to the server from my desktop while my phone was trying to do the same i did get a "connection failed" message on the phone. I'm also having issues getting vnc to work (it's acutally pretty much the same problem as i get with RDP).
I do know my wifi works becuase i use it all the time in the house and the GSM radio is definitely able to talk to my home network on the external side because exchange direct push is working perfectly in secure mode.
So ideas or links will be welcome.
Thanks guys and it's good to be back.
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I just had a thought. Would the activex control for IE that RWWP work?

The problem is your setup on your PC. Remote desktop on the phone works out of the box (as long as it can connect then it will.)
There have been discussions on this forum about Windows 7 and remote desktop, so it's there to find (I know you said you searched, but it is there!)
I use Windows XP and had my home PC setup for RDP connections already as I connect from other PCs, so when I got my HD2 it worked straight away.

I should say at this point i am an IT Engineer. I have tested this to death. I have tried it with firewalls on and firewalls off. Exceptions allowed and not.
Please also note i was trying to connect to my windows 2003 SBS server which does work from my desktop (and if i really wanted to i can connect from the server to the desktop using RDP or VNC) and my preivous HTC touch diamond and the HTC artemis i had before that. Although since my last RDP install on a phone (and considering my last phone ran WM6.1) i've lost the cab file i had.
John, thanks for the fast response. I really do appreciated it but i think you missed the mark a little. If you wanna have another stab feel free.

M3PH said:
I should say at this point i am an IT Engineer. I have tested this to death. I have tried it with firewalls on and firewalls off. Exceptions allowed and not.
Please also note i was trying to connect to my windows 2003 SBS server which does work from my desktop (and if i really wanted to i can connect from the server to the desktop using RDP or VNC) and my preivous HTC touch diamond and the HTC artemis i had before that. Although since my last RDP install on a phone (and considering my last phone ran WM6.1) i've lost the cab file i had.
John, thanks for the fast response. I really do appreciated it but i think you missed the mark a little. If you wanna have another stab feel free.
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I'm not a Windows 7 user, so I can't vouch for any of the conversations that I've seen on here, but there have been many regarding this exact issue. It usually turns out that they don't have a version of Windows 7 that will allow them to host RDP sessions, or that there was a setup issue that could be resolved.
Have a look at this thread and see if anything there helps...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=533664
I got this from searching and was a little confused as to why, until I got past the first 2 posts
Hope you find something useful mate.

Nope that's of no use. It's only discussing very basic and standard things i have already done but i must emphasize that i am not really that concerned with connecting to my desktop from the phone (i'm just using it in my testing to prove that RDP is actually open and working on both computers). The server is the most important thing right now and as i have said it has worked in the past. I have not changed any settings on either of my machines and i can not get it to function with this new phone.
I'm pretty sure it's something wrong with the rdp client i had to install on the phone because it didn't come with one. I have read that there is one that works and one that doesn't but there was no further clarification of which was which. Right now i would settle for a verified known working client for the phone but i just can't seem to find a link. Hell if someone out there knows of a VNC client that works i'd settle for that.

Just to show how dedicated and willing i am to get this sorted i did follow the instructions for creating a vpn (well tbh i had already created one ) that connected no worries. Then I fired up the rdp client and tapped in the internal ip address for the server, username, password and local domain. It's come back and said it's "connecting..." but i can see no activity on my internet connection coming to or from my phone. Yet if click the shortcut on my Desktop that has the same details it connects faster than i can blink.
Also please take into account that windows 2003 SBS only has a firewall on the external interface. So the internal network is unprotected. The VPN connection bypasses the firewall for authenticated external devices and users. That is why it was suggested in the link you posted because the same situation is created when you use it on windows Vista or Windows 7.
p.s while i was proof reading this i tested it on the wifi (so on the internal side of the network) and nothing. I'm pretty sure from monitoring the wifi link activity that the RDP client isn't sending out any data at all which sort of comfirms that there is a working and non working client. Seems i have the wrong one. Has anyone got any links to windows mobile 6.5 RDP or VNC clients that i can test?
Thank you everybody.

I didn't realise that there was a non-working version of remote desktop out there. That sort of explains it then doesn't it!
I know it's overkill, but if you can't find a working version of the app then you could always flash a ROM that has it, but like I said, the version that was on my phone when I got it (1.43 ROM WWE) worked from day 1.
You may not have an answer yet, but at least you've ruled a lot of stuff out.
Hope you get it sorted mate.

Now isn't a good time to reflash the rom because i'm a bit busy with other things but it is something i was considering solely because the HTC text messaging application is awful and i'm pretty sure it has a memory leak in it.
So what's the recommendations for roms taking into account that according to HTC i have the latest version for my provider.
Also i'm still open to suggestions on the VNC front?

RDP works flawlessly here too, but then again I had it in my ROM. You say you saw 2 versions of the RDP client, I'd recommend trying the other one, and if it still doesn't work... happy flashing The ROM in my signature works fine, but it's just one of many.

Well i read it in a post on another forum as a response to someone having a problem like mine BUT with windows 7 home prem which isn't ever going to work. Unfortunately there was no links provided.
I think i better go and get the kettle and move it into my office and start some hardcore searching. Man, I hate hardcore searching.

VNC Viewer
Attached is a FREEWARE VNC viewer I have been using on various HTC devices I have owned over the years, and it works perfectly well for me. I know you guys are discussing RD Protocols and Services, but if you have UltraVNC server available on your "host" PC, then this little beauty will work like a charm!
I use it all the time to dial into my home PCs and switch torrents on and off of downloading etc. and it is faultless. I also use it on my work phone to connect to our customers PCs in order to remote fault find / rectify etc..
N.B. This viewer IS NOT written by me, nor have I anything to do with it, all I know is that it is based on FREEWARE public domain code, and issued as freeware, and on an "as is" basis to the WM community.

interesting to see you have the exact same version of the phone as me. I have tried that VNC viewer already with no luck at all but i'll give it another go and see what happens.
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just tried it out and with good results. Hooked up to the server on the wifi just fine but i really wouldn't wanna have to click n drag something. so that will buy me sometime while i work on the RDP thing.
Thanks namwollem

Ok spent almost an hour search and got a couple of hits. Thanks to a thread on social.microsoft.com i found the cab file should be called wm6rdp.cab. Ran a search for it in google and found 2 different versions. One cooked by a guy called finster and another one (looks more offical) the finster version installed and seemed older than the version i had as it didn't support remote storage. That failed to do anything new. I next tried the more official looking cab and this removed the finster version, soft rebooted the phone and looked promising but alas it didn;t do anything different. Interestingly i now have 2 RDP icons on my start menu. both run the same app so i'm a bit confused as to how that happened.
I'm really quite stuck now and, as i mention before, i want to avoid flashing the phone for now so i'm still open to ideas.

I hate it when things get wierd. I removed all the rdp clients i had installed in an effort to tidy up a little bit. There was one that would not remove. It was marked "bengalih productions windows mobile..." so i figured i would give the phone a reboot and try see if it worked and hey presto it does. This is the original client that i installed and the first that didn't work and i haven;t changed the config at all so i'm completely baffled. I have noticed in further testing that if i select any options (like fit to screen, or colour depth) it will not connect but if you give it the user and machine details it seems to work. It also is not not RDP version 7 compatible (so you can't use it to connect to windows 7 pro or ultimate machines) but who cares when you have VNC and RDP working?
So i am happy. Thanks for all your help guys.