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vLite with Shift? Possible?

Hi All, yesterday i install xp on my GF's eee900 using nLite, it's very fast and i am so impress. Now that is done and running super fast, i wonder if i could do the same for my shift, by using vLite to create a strip down version of vista and intall it from an external DVD drive.
Tne problem i could think of is drivers, do wehave the complete list of drives for vista? if so, i think it will be very possible, you get to disable all the service and microsoft cr*p that you don't want, which will speed up Shift a lot.
Let me know what you guys think.

I think the more techno savvy of this forum are working on this amongst other things. If HTC was to provide drivers for the hardware it would help, a lot...

wu5262 said:
Hi All, yesterday i install xp on my GF's eee900 using nLite, it's very fast and i am so impress. Now that is done and running super fast, i wonder if i could do the same for my shift, by using vLite to create a strip down version of vista and intall it from an external DVD drive.
Tne problem i could think of is drivers, do wehave the complete list of drives for vista? if so, i think it will be very possible, you get to disable all the service and microsoft cr*p that you don't want, which will speed up Shift a lot.
Let me know what you guys think.
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After mounting the XVISTA.WIM inside the recovery partition, I can safely say, Vlite will not work with Shifts Vista.
However, I am currently working on a solution.
I will use a normal Vista Business to create a lite version of Vista and slipstream it into the recovery partition. I hope to shave off a few GB and get some resources free.
But it will take me a few days to get that done. Will keep you updated.

Awww cumon!!
You only have a hard working 800Mz proc!!!
Give it loads of extra file handling and say NITE NITE!!!
(Soz, alchohol moment...)
Do not expect this kit to do anything normally expected of a PC or good laptop, it is a slow UMPC as nothing better exists YET!!!!
I used to see this of people expecting to see a TyTynII act as a laptop!!
Please read the specs of the device and hope for a little more from XDA devs, but not miracles out of the box!!

dude, I play mkv files on it
of course, on win xp made using nlite, with carefull a codec and player selection. there are some of us that would try to get every mhz out of that processor, just for fun and proofs of concepts.
if it were possible i would put win98 on it, and have a boot time of 20sec . It would still offer more then a windows mobile environment.

its more about the size of the Vista installation.
Its easier for me to modify Vista then getting XP to work on this.
Besides, whats wrong with freeing up resources...doesnt cost anything and makes it more responsive.
so far, it runs really nice and quick.
Can even play some stuff on it (Ground Control)
anyway...as soon as its done, I will post the download link

aquasesh said:
its more about the size of the Vista installation.
Its easier for me to modify Vista then getting XP to work on this.
Besides, whats wrong with freeing up resources...doesnt cost anything and makes it more responsive.
so far, it runs really nice and quick.
Can even play some stuff on it (Ground Control)
anyway...as soon as its done, I will post the download link
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EXCELLENT!

Linux-PC access on storage card possible?

Hi all,
is anybody here using Linux on his desktop like I do? I have Kubuntu 8.10 and wonder if it is possible to access the storage card of my Touch HD via USB. Unfortunately HTC did not include any adapters for MicroSD-card and with my Wizard I only used MiniSD ... Would be cool to at least have read & write access to the Touch HD storage card from my Linux PC.
Cheers,
Eriol

Eriol said:
Hi all,
is anybody here using Linux on his desktop like I do? I have Kubuntu 8.10 and wonder if it is possible to access the storage card of my Touch HD via USB. Unfortunately HTC did not include any adapters for MicroSD-card and with my Wizard I only used MiniSD ... Would be cool to at least have read & write access to the Touch HD storage card from my Linux PC.
Cheers,
Eriol
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Add: When I plug the Touch HD on a Windows XP Desktop PC, on the Touch HD a window appears where I can select Active Sync or "hard disk" mode. This window does not appear when Linux is running one the desktop. Has anyone tried WM5torage on the Touch HD? I have heard that this app has problems with WM6.1 on Touch devices from HTC???

Hi,
I use Linux Mint (is Ubuntu with some additional program/feature) and when I plug in the USB cable I can see the msg: Activesync or HDD mode. And I didn't installed any program to support the PDAs. Once I select the HDD mode I can read/write to my micro-sd card without problem (even if the max write speed is about 3,5MB/sec....not so much). BTW I have the HTC HD TIM ITA branded, with Sandisk 8GB micro-sd.
Sorry for my english

no problem
I use linux and the hd works like a external disk when I plug it in.

Im on Intrepid Ibex here 8.10
I have the latest synce stuff installed and can browse the entire filesystem on my X1, install cabs and check the system information
Use synce-trayicon it's amazing!
If you choose that in Synaptic it should automatically add the dependencies but if not then I use synce-gvfs, synce-hal synce-sync-engine plus most of the synce relevant libs.
Oh yes, I've also got mymobiler running under wine, that's a bit slow but works as well!

fards said:
Im on Intrepid Ibex here 8.10
I have the latest synce stuff installed and can browse the entire filesystem on my X1, install cabs and check the system information
Use synce-trayicon it's amazing!
If you choose that in Synaptic it should automatically add the dependencies but if not then I use synce-gvfs, synce-hal synce-sync-engine plus most of the synce relevant libs.
Oh yes, I've also got mymobiler running under wine, that's a bit slow but works as well!
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Hi fards: That sounds interesting to me. I tried synce a year ago but didn't get it running with my HTC Wizard. As we are using (nearly) the same OS, do you know of a How-to? What programs have you installed for this?
Hi vivus: I tried it once yesterday; I plugged in my Touch HD and the control lamp showed that the battery was charging, but otherwise nothing happened, the Touch HD wouldn'd give me such option and Linux did not recognize Touch HD ... BTW, your English is excellent and I assume that most of us here aren't native speakers ...
Eriol

I second Synce, I run Xubuntu and it works here with Evolution installed.

Kangburra said:
I second Synce, I run Xubuntu and it works here with Evolution installed.
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Hi, what exactly have you installed? I mean, which packages? Do you need to set up synce somewhere?
Thanks!
Eriol

Eriol said:
Hi fards: That sounds interesting to me. I tried synce a year ago but didn't get it running with my HTC Wizard. As we are using (nearly) the same OS, do you know of a How-to? What programs have you installed for this?
Hi vivus: I tried it once yesterday; I plugged in my Touch HD and the control lamp showed that the battery was charging, but otherwise nothing happened, the Touch HD wouldn'd give me such option and Linux did not recognize Touch HD ... BTW, your English is excellent and I assume that most of us here aren't native speakers ...
Eriol
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As I said, try installing synce-trayicon it should automatically pick up synce-sync-engine.
I've not seen a tutorial that is upto date but the one on the synce wiki will get you up and running (although the latest builds of synce on ubuntu seem to work very well)
*edit* I've just re-read the latest wiki on hardy and it seems irrelevant, mine seems to work out of the box with the latest synce builds, I do have the ppa launchpad as a repo but only have one file from there
I'm using it over HAL rather then vdccm or odccm (synce-trayicon gives you the option to change which to use).
using synce-gvfs you can use synce:// in nautilus (or browse this device using trayicon) to view the entire filesystem in wm6

fards said:
As I said, try installing synce-trayicon it should automatically pick up synce-sync-engine.
I've not seen a tutorial that is upto date but the one on the synce wiki will get you up and running (although the latest builds of synce on ubuntu seem to work very well)
*edit* I've just re-read the latest wiki on hardy and it seems irrelevant, mine seems to work out of the box with the latest synce builds, I do have the ppa launchpad as a repo but only have one file from there
I'm using it over HAL rather then vdccm or odccm (synce-trayicon gives you the option to change which to use).
using synce-gvfs you can use synce:// in nautilus (or browse this device using trayicon) to view the entire filesystem in wm6
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Wow - I will try this! Thanks a lot!
Eriol

vivus said:
Hi,
I use Linux Mint (is Ubuntu with some additional program/feature) and when I plug in the USB cable I can see the msg: Activesync or HDD mode. And I didn't installed any program to support the PDAs. Once I select the HDD mode I can read/write to my micro-sd card without problem (even if the max write speed is about 3,5MB/sec....not so much). BTW I have the HTC HD TIM ITA branded, with Sandisk 8GB micro-sd.
Sorry for my english
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BTW, your english is quite very good, no need to be sorry...

Windows 7 on HTC HD2

Hello,
Does anyone knows how to install Windows 7 on the HTC HD2?
I've seen it on You Tube
t seems to me that like Android it is possible to have Windows 7 running on a HTC HD2.
I'm very interested to have it running on mine HD2.
Would anyone help me with it?
Many thanks

that's remote desktop.

windows 7
why would you want to?

thats not remote desktop because in remote desktop you cant use it in letterbox orientation, and doesnt have any keyboard the movie its very buggy thats a sign of uncompatible graphic mode but if thats real its good to have it like ubuntu and android

darkanubispr said:
thats not remote desktop because in remote desktop you cant use it in letterbox orientation, and doesnt have any keyboard the movie its very buggy thats a sign of uncompatible graphic mode but if thats real its good to have it like ubuntu and android
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There is landscape mode for remote desktop, you just have to flip it to landscape before you connect!
I can use the windows keyboard also.

Until WM7 is figured out it will be more locked down than WM6.5 meaning the opportunities to mod your phone to your liking with be less.

OK,
Thanks for your reply's
I wanted to use Windows 7 because I'll find it very easy to work with and I'm used to it
I tried a WAD-skin from Rajivshahi but the skin doesn't function very well on my device.
Perhaps I'm doing something wrong.
Maybe somebody knows something like Windows XP or Vista wich will work on the HTC HD2?

Are you serious?!?
Look at the specs needed to run Windows 7:
1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor.
1 gigabyte (GB) RAM (32-bit) or 2 GB RAM (64-bit).
16 GB available hard disk space (32-bit) or 20 GB (64-bit).
DirectX 9 graphics device with WDDM 1.0 or higher driver.
Sure, we do have a 1HGz CPU, it's even 32bit! But it's NOT x86 or x64, it's a RISC processor using the ARMv7 instruction set.
Unless someone gets a hold of the sourcecode for Windows 7 and recompiles it for the ARMv7 instruction set, it won't be possible!
Even IF someone got the sourcecode, there are many things that should be adapted before porting Windows 7 to a mobile device like the HD2.
Oh, and then there's the RAM issue..
Sure, the HD2 has A LOT OF RAM compared to other Windows Mobile devices.. ..but it's still far away from 1 GB.
Which brings us to the next item on the list; "storage space"
In order to have 16GB, we need to use the Memory Card.
Sadly, the transfer speeds to and from the memory card is not as good as the ROM.
I don't have the speed figures right here, so I guess I can't argue that memory card speed isn't possible.
But I am 100% sure you'd need at least Class 6. (Those 16GB Class 6 cards are cheap, right?)
And at the end of the list; DirectX 9 graphics.
Thanks to one or more XDA members, we are slowly but steadily getting better #D hardware drivers.
Though we are not WDDM 1.0 compliant yet.
Probably never will be, as the hardware just isn't good enough.
You'll be happy to know, though, that we are able to emulate enough Intel CPU power to run Windows 95 on our devices!

YouTube
BenBok said:
I've seen it on You Tube
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If you look closely at that video in 720p, you'll notice the contents of "Computer"
I find it HIGHLY unlikely that his HD2 has THAT much storage space on either C: or D:
Where he's gotten that third local disk drive from, I have no idea..
Or how he got two DVD-ROMs conneted to it.
In the words of the youtube trolls; "Fake!"

Hmmm, just curious as to why you'd want something like that in your pocket. Buy an HTC Shift or a TabletPC. It'd much easier for you & probably cheaper to put Windows 7 on if you consider all the Advil, Aleve, Tylenol & whatever other headache medicine you'll save on.

OK,
You've got me convinced.
Dumb idea.
Is there any working skin to do the job on a HD2.
I've seen many skin's/ rom's, but till now nothing looks like something I want.
Maybe there is a site/tutorial how to make such a skin/ROM?

@topic
oh guys....
please....
search..........
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=677921
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=688317

Bonzo said:
If you look closely at that video in 720p, you'll notice the contents of "Computer"
I find it HIGHLY unlikely that his HD2 has THAT much storage space on either C: or D:
Where he's gotten that third local disk drive from, I have no idea..
Or how he got two DVD-ROMs conneted to it.
In the words of the youtube trolls; "Fake!"
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It's not fake, it's remote desktop.

OK,
Since I'm curious how it's done, maybe one of you wants to tell me how to connect to my PC (windows 7) with Remote Desktop Mobile.
I'm not familiar with it, please tell me in plain English. Thanks

HD2 with capacitive screen is freaking useless on remote desktop!
if you want to remote desktop, get a windows phone with resistive screen!
notice on the video, he never used the on-screen keyboard (remote pc keyboard) cus it freaking impossible to use on capacitive screen!

BenBok said:
OK,
Since I'm curious how it's done, maybe one of you wants to tell me how to connect to my PC (windows 7) with Remote Desktop Mobile.
I'm not familiar with it, please tell me in plain English. Thanks
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If you have Win7 Home Premium, Home or Basic, you can't.
If you have Win7 Professional or Ultimate, then:
- Connect your HD2 to your Wifi network, then find the IP of the Win7 computer
- To find the IP on the Win7 computer;
click on Start
type ' command ' into the "Search Programs and Files" box
click on "Command Prompt"
type ' ipconfig ' into the black box that appears
press Return or Enter on your keyboard
in the list that comes up, look for "IP address" under the wireless adaptor, usually starts with 192.168
- Open Remote Desktop on your HD2
- Enter the IP address of your computer and try to connect.
- If it doesn't connect, try checking your firewall on your Win7 computer to make sure Remote Desktop is allowed.

netnerd said:
HD2 with capacitive screen is freaking useless on remote desktop!
if you want to remote desktop, get a windows phone with resistive screen!
notice on the video, he never used the on-screen keyboard (remote pc keyboard) cus it freaking impossible to use on capacitive screen!
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Yeah, I agree.
Though I wonder if a bluetooth keyboard would work. probably?
Touch-screen works and that's input. And we can get output from the host computer. Maybe I'll try that one day.

Hi guys, i tried to install windows 7 on my HD2,
seems ok.
but Android is the way forward for apps

mannhoe said:
Hi guys, i tried to install windows 7 on my HD2,
seems ok.
but Android is the way forward for apps
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Wow, you got Windows 7 on your HD2? Now that would be a development...
(Guess it´s Windows Phone 7, no?).
Concerning apps, I don´t understand what people want...
Is it the number of apps which stands for the quality of what you get? According to my personal experience and opinion, 95% of all apps in Apple´s app store are just crap, and Android? Well, quite a bit chaotic, and quite a lot of crap, too.
But then again, thanks to a huge devs community like you find it here at xda, Android has a massive number of small apps which are really following user requests. And not just farts and other useless joke apps.

Install Windows XP on HTC Shift - your update please

Hi everybody, I'm new to this HTC Shift forum. I've bought a short while ago one HTC Shift s/h, it works all right, but I am very unsatisfied with Vista, even after the F3 recovery it is so slooooowwww!
Therefore I would like to speed it up by installing Windows XP (for which I have the necessary license).
I did my good reading on this forum, but almost all the threads are 1 or 2 years old, some of the links are already dead, so I did not come to a firm conclusion on whether Win XP works completely OK on the HTC Shift. I've been reading about problems reported in connection with certain drivers, touch screen, wireless, Shift Control Center, SD and SDHC cards, switching resolution, WMP, etc which I don't know if have been sorted out or not.
So it would be great if somebody could confirm me if installing Win XP leads firmly to a positive result. Pointing to some updated links for the appropriate downloads would be the other great thing that I would appreciate.
Looking forward to your soonest answers!
Thank you so much!

I have installed Xp only on my Shift long time ago,everything is working faster and better.
Keep in mind you will not have Shift Control Center anymore but a directory with shortcuts to switch BT,WiFi,Reset Snapvue,Etc.
Also Gsensor is great with Screen Rotation.
Follow this link to install WinXp - contact me if you encounter some problems.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=517824

unapproachable2kx said:
I have installed Xp only on my Shift long time ago,everything is working faster and better.
Keep in mind you will not have Shift Control Center anymore but a directory with shortcuts to switch BT,WiFi,Reset Snapvue,Etc.
Also Gsensor is great with Screen Rotation.
Follow this link to install WinXp - contact me if you encounter some problems.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=517824
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Thanks unapproachable2kx for your encouragement, I sent you a PM.

unapproachable2kx said:
I have installed Xp only on my Shift long time ago,everything is working faster and better.
Keep in mind you will not have Shift Control Center anymore but a directory with shortcuts to switch BT,WiFi,Reset Snapvue,Etc.
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As Wireless Connection Managers for wifi and BT I know 3 tools that are doing the job in XP for specific brand notebooks: HP Wireless Assistant, Dell QuickSet and Asus Console Utility. I wonder if any would work on the XP Shift. I will let you know once XP installed and running, probably next week or so. About managing the 3G modem, I guess this will stay on "manual". I have no idea about how to bring up the Snap View hard-reset button.
On the other hand there were some links on this forum, all broken now, for DL an XP adapted Shift Control Center. Did that piece of sofware really exist and work fine or was it just a bluff?

Hi again everybody!
Just one question before I stat the xp install: performing the HDD Format operation during xp install would distroy the Vista recovery partition or not?
A quick answer would be appreciated and would help me a lot!
Thank you!

From what I remember Hdd format would not destroy Recovery partition as it is hidden and read only. You would need to unhide and make readable to change it.
Than about Shift Control Center for XP you will have the ability to:
Wifi Control
BT Control
SnapVue Reset
Snapvue EnterBootloader
Sound control
This is my improved version.
I was planning to make a Control Center GUI with C++ but always delayed who knows maybe one day I will find some free time will surely post.

unapproachable2kx said:
From what I remember Hdd format would not destroy Recovery partition as it is hidden and read only. You would need to unhide and make readable to change it.
Than about Shift Control Center for XP you will have the ability to:
Wifi Control
BT Control
SnapVue Reset
Snapvue EnterBootloader
Sound control
This is my improved version.
I was planning to make a Control Center GUI with C++ but always delayed who knows maybe one day I will find some free time will surely post.
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Thank you unapproachable2kx!
About the Shift Control Center for XP, when you wrote "This is my improved version" did you mean that you actually have it and you can load it somewhere for public use or that you just listed the features of what you planned to be?
Anyway, if you still have the "traditional version" of the Shift Control Center for XP mentioned several times on this forum, I would much appreciate if you could attach it to your next post or sent it to me via PM.
Thank you and have a nice week-end!

help ShagCtrl.exe
same Dilemma where does one download?
Shift Control Center : ShagCtrl.exe
Can it be recovered from the original vista install?

shagctrl.exe
Found something on htc site
Shagctrl_1[1].2.6.122-control center
HTC control center
dl4.htc.com/Driver//HTC%20Shift/shagctrl_1[/url][1].2.6.122-control%20center.zip
general-search.net/fileinfo/gs3918b18h82i0

waragi said:
Found something on htc site
Shagctrl_1[1].2.6.122-control center
HTC control center
dl4.htc.com/Driver//HTC%20Shift/shagctrl_1[/url][1].2.6.122-control%20center.zip
general-search.net/fileinfo/gs3918b18h82i0
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Thanks waragi, I imagine those are the original HTC files for Vista, which are not working with XP.

impossible to install the wifi or to have the wifi
unapproachable2kx said:
I have installed Xp only on my Shift long time ago,everything is working faster and better.
Keep in mind you will not have Shift Control Center anymore but a directory with shortcuts to switch BT,WiFi,Reset Snapvue,Etc.
Also Gsensor is great with Screen Rotation.
Follow this link to install WinXp - contact me if you encounter some problems.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=517824
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hi friend
i have a problem to install the wifi
i dont understand the step 14 on installing xp
many times i made the installation
all is good but wifi is the problem i ve made many installation of this but it won t work maybe in dont translate good this step
im french
14.- run cygwin\setup.exe, and select install from folder. select ioperm from the devel subfolder.
Unselect icons on desktop and start menu and finish.
Run cygwin.bat from c:\cygwin
type “ioperm –i” + enter and “exit” + enter
move hsect-2.1\hsect2.exe and move it to c:\cygwin\bin
can explain me step by step this step
thanks a lot

xp htc shift x9500
help me please, I need the driver for all the xp

XP Tips and Tricks

After years of running the wondrous pof's Hardy 8.04.1 Shift setup, I've gone back to XP. Mainly because Links2 (the fastest browser for this ancient hardware) no longer works with all sites due to its lack of security updates.
cygwin's Links2 2.14 for Windows has enough updated security, so one can visit any site. slimjet chrome browser for XP still syncs with google, but site-rendering is pretty glacial.
As usual, the sd card reader in XP is buggy, mostly due to its old 2002 driver that seems un-updatable. First, I've only gotten a 2GB-or-below card to be recognized. Secondly, the card has to be reinserted upon booting into XP and can also disappear upon resume-after-suspend. But the second issue is solved if one uses devcon.exe and a batch script disabling/reenabling the card driver:
Code:
@echo off
"C:\devcon.exe" disable =SDHost
timeout /t 2
"C:\devcon.exe" enable =SDHost
If anybody else is still using XP, it'd be interesting to hear any of your own workarounds.
I keep dragging my Shift out of mothballs and it's still one of the great niche devices.
Jake

I've only used Vista, Windows 7 and 10 on my HTC Shift, but now it is too slow with any of them so in the next few days, I'm planning on repurposing my Shift to become an offline retro-machine. Therefor I'm intending to install XP on it for the first time. I'll share my experiences on this forum. I'm intending to mostly use it for games and c64 emulation.

Did anyone manage to find Win XP drivers for the Shift?
Thanx

TRoN_1 said:
Did anyone manage to find Win XP drivers for the Shift?
Thanx
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'fraid not.
XP runs well, and the sound works, but I couldn't get optimal screen resolution, and many programs and games (such as Halo, FSX and even basic C64 emulators) refuse to run due to missing drivers.
Since XP has not had security support for a long time, I don't connect XP to the internet, nor do I download any of the general XP driver bundles that are available.
So XP HTC Shift is kind-of useful but not as much as I had hoped. I'm thinking of going back to an offline Windows 7.
I uploaded a couple of HTC Shift Windows XP videos today on YouTube. Here are the links:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7LbdGV1Rjg&t=9s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTU6Kvua7oI&t=458s