Hi All, yesterday i install xp on my GF's eee900 using nLite, it's very fast and i am so impress. Now that is done and running super fast, i wonder if i could do the same for my shift, by using vLite to create a strip down version of vista and intall it from an external DVD drive.
Tne problem i could think of is drivers, do wehave the complete list of drives for vista? if so, i think it will be very possible, you get to disable all the service and microsoft cr*p that you don't want, which will speed up Shift a lot.
Let me know what you guys think.
I think the more techno savvy of this forum are working on this amongst other things. If HTC was to provide drivers for the hardware it would help, a lot...
wu5262 said:
Hi All, yesterday i install xp on my GF's eee900 using nLite, it's very fast and i am so impress. Now that is done and running super fast, i wonder if i could do the same for my shift, by using vLite to create a strip down version of vista and intall it from an external DVD drive.
Tne problem i could think of is drivers, do wehave the complete list of drives for vista? if so, i think it will be very possible, you get to disable all the service and microsoft cr*p that you don't want, which will speed up Shift a lot.
Let me know what you guys think.
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After mounting the XVISTA.WIM inside the recovery partition, I can safely say, Vlite will not work with Shifts Vista.
However, I am currently working on a solution.
I will use a normal Vista Business to create a lite version of Vista and slipstream it into the recovery partition. I hope to shave off a few GB and get some resources free.
But it will take me a few days to get that done. Will keep you updated.
Awww cumon!!
You only have a hard working 800Mz proc!!!
Give it loads of extra file handling and say NITE NITE!!!
(Soz, alchohol moment...)
Do not expect this kit to do anything normally expected of a PC or good laptop, it is a slow UMPC as nothing better exists YET!!!!
I used to see this of people expecting to see a TyTynII act as a laptop!!
Please read the specs of the device and hope for a little more from XDA devs, but not miracles out of the box!!
dude, I play mkv files on it
of course, on win xp made using nlite, with carefull a codec and player selection. there are some of us that would try to get every mhz out of that processor, just for fun and proofs of concepts.
if it were possible i would put win98 on it, and have a boot time of 20sec . It would still offer more then a windows mobile environment.
its more about the size of the Vista installation.
Its easier for me to modify Vista then getting XP to work on this.
Besides, whats wrong with freeing up resources...doesnt cost anything and makes it more responsive.
so far, it runs really nice and quick.
Can even play some stuff on it (Ground Control)
anyway...as soon as its done, I will post the download link
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its more about the size of the Vista installation.
Its easier for me to modify Vista then getting XP to work on this.
Besides, whats wrong with freeing up resources...doesnt cost anything and makes it more responsive.
so far, it runs really nice and quick.
Can even play some stuff on it (Ground Control)
anyway...as soon as its done, I will post the download link
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EXCELLENT!
Related
This may be hard to believe but windows 2008 server Standard is FAR FASTER than running Vista SP1 on your Shift.
I have installed Server 2008 today and it runs really quickly. It also runs with approximately 490MB of RAM free and responds to starting applications much better...
There are however a few issues........
1. ShagCtrl.exe doesn't run properly it complains about WLANAPI.DLL not being present.
2. The touch screen doesn't work.
Everything else does and works much faster than using VISTA.
Anyone post for me the WLANAPI.DLL so i don't have to re-install vista just to get it please and let me know where it should be placed...
Thanks
Fascinating !!
You actually did what I didn't dare to do.. !!
I assume that there are a few people here capable of delivering what you asked.
The problem might be the touchscreen drivers, to get those working...
I'll keep a close watch on this thread.
One question, did you delete the recovery partition ?
ANother question, did you attach an external DVD an booted from it ?
In the boot menu, there's no option , maybe I should attach a USB DVD or Ethernet connection ?
EDIT : forgot to say that there's postings on this forum offering the drivers seperately. Maybe you can install them ?
Drivers and stuff
Yeah kept the recovery partition F3+FN intact.......
Booted off an external USB DVD device (which shows up on FN+F10)
I have all the drivers separately but was missing some DLLs.
Recovered to VISTA last night and copied off Program Files & WINDOWS to capture all the DLLs and infs....
Re-installing 2008 Server now...
Will let you know how i get on........ But it's sooooo much quicker.....
Microsoft really have optimised Server 2008 over Vista even though is shares some of the same kernel.........
I think a better way forward is to get it to work with Server 2008....
Regards
Blitz
wow, great job mate, but how much does server 2008 cost?
and is it worth that cost, considering vista is installed free?
Rory
I'm an MSND member (Technet PLUS) which sets you down about 400$ a year. In return, you can install any OS they ever made with a key. 4 timees per key if im correct. So m Windows 2008 is payed for already, but understand not everybody has technet plus from microsoft.
It's a darn good deal.
If you do get ShagCtrl and VitaKey work with your Windows server 2008 I think that might make me install Server 2008 as well.
Good Luck and let us know how it turns out!
sorry for my ignorance, but does Server 2008 behave in a similar way to Vista? can you install the same apps? i.e. would Skype work? what would be the main disadvantages of doing this?
I just had a really crazy idea... no doubt I'm not the first but I havnt ready about this anywhere.
Before I go on I am NOT a programmer at all. I know nothing about that sort of thing but I was researching PCs thinking about buying a new computer and came across the HP TouchSmart PC. Basically you get a PC with a large touchscreen monitor and a full suite of aps modded to make it work well with touching the screen instead of using a mouse. Much like what we do with out phones.
Now, would it not be possible AND cool to just have a simple HTC Cube like program running on a standard PC. It would be really handy if you had a touch PC for sure but playing around on here and just using a mouse that in itself would be handy too. Being able to hold down say, the right finger mouse button and drag your mouse up quickly would bring up a cube like shortcut seen on the HTC Touch phones. Customizable of course so that it has shortcuts to whatever we would want. I can't imagine that this would be hard to do. Probably alot easier then it was to make Cube aps for other touchscreen phones. Swipping the mouse across the screen left or right could get you to other cube sides. Again, like on our phones.
This may seem completly assinine and useless but I just think it would be a cool little feature to have on a PC. I'm sure if someone who has knowledge of programming could make something like that. I dont know how difficult it would be but. Hey thats just my two cents.
I do realize that this thread isnt really about phones so it may be out of place, but the idea has come from our phones so I thought I would put it out and see what sort of responce I could get. See if anyone would be in fact interested in making something like this!
Aaron
Nice idea but i guess you're wrong here with the topic. You should ask in a PC Forum wether it's possible to do that
I understood it was the wrong forum. But seeing as pretty much anyone reading this thread would understand what the HTC Cube is, thought Id test the waters. I'm not a member or any PC Forums really either. Like I said I dont really know a thing about programming but I can assume that it's sort of like riding a bike. Whether that be a basic one speed bike compared to a 12 speed. As long as you understand the main principles (ie balance) you should be able to ride most anything. So from an ignorant understanding of programming.... well programming a application for a Windows based phone or Windows based PC would sort of be like.. comparing apples with apples no? Again.. please dont flame me here for my thoughts.. Like I said.. Ignorant understanding of the computer programming world!
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Now, would it not be possible AND cool to just have a simple HTC Cube like program running on a standard PC.
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Something like this?
Sorry: new software is this.
probably not helping when saying this, but the newer Ubuntu Linux distros come preinstalled with a program called Compiz-Fusion, which gives linux its cube effects. I dont know if XP or Vista has any programs out there. They probably do if you google it.
good luck to you!
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probably not helping when saying this, but the newer Ubuntu Linux distros come preinstalled with a program called Compiz-Fusion, which gives linux its cube effects. I dont know if XP or Vista has any programs out there. They probably do if you google it.
good luck to you!
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Linux is the closest you will get. The XP software doesn't run nearly as well as linux because XP never really figured in workspaces where as it's completely integrated with managers like Gnome for linux. So the compiz fusion is the closest to a true cube you will get. Also, ubuntu is not the only linux distro with compiz. Any distro that can run gnome or KDE can run compiz; it's just a matter of with how much work.
To me the closest thing to a cube on the XDA phones is the cube animation in ultimate launch. But then again I love that program so I am biased
I did see that Linux based cube before but what that does is rotate to different desktops. I was thinking of a cube that is basically the same thing the HTC cube is... shortcuts. So pretty much similar to the start menu except it would be way more snazy looking and have 9 or however many shortcuts you wanted in it. 3 on each side.. you get the idea.
gotvitamink said:
probably not helping when saying this, but the newer Ubuntu Linux distros come preinstalled with a program called Compiz-Fusion, which gives linux its cube effects. I dont know if XP or Vista has any programs out there. They probably do if you google it.
good luck to you!
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I came in here to post this...just got an Ubuntu install cd the other day, can't wait to try it out on another partition.
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I came in here to post this...just got an Ubuntu install cd the other day, can't wait to try it out on another partition.
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im thinking about switcing back to ubuntu as well, now that i know how to cook roms on it. ive also been looking at mandriva 2008.1 as well, and its easy support for wm6. ive also heard that it has the most stable compizfusion ever, which is a plus because compiz always crashes on my comp after a few days of usage.
anyway, i do believe that linuxis your best bet, althoug compiz-fusion is not very stable yet, so if you do make the switch to ubuntu, i would just make sure that you use the pre-installed effects to satisfy your needs, and not download a package caled compizconfig-settings or something like that.
as far as a shortct menu goes, im not aware of any, but i agree that it would be very convenient/cool for laptops with touchscreens...
Thanks...I'm fairly new to Linux so I'm sure there will be a slight learning curve.
u can use uBuntu (Linux)...I think it's the way, if u want to have the cube for ur dekstop...Or u can search only the transformations pack xp to ubuntu or vista to ubuntu...U can search by google...
The idea was to have a shortcut cube.... like the HTC Cube.... not a cube that rotates between different "desktops" like the linux one everyone here is discussing
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Thanks...I'm fairly new to Linux so I'm sure there will be a slight learning curve.
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I'll admit Ubuntu Linux took me a while to grasp. and with an older computer, I had to do a lot of research to get my wifi working, and the cube working as well. But now i use it almost all the time, only going back to XP on my dual-boot laptop to flash a new ROM or backup my contacts.
I've been wondering if i should check out Mandriva 2008 also. The downside of linux is that Windows Mobile is not heavily supported.
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I'll admit Ubuntu Linux took me a while to grasp. and with an older computer, I had to do a lot of research to get my wifi working, and the cube working as well. But now i use it almost all the time, only going back to XP on my dual-boot laptop to flash a new ROM or backup my contacts.
I've been wondering if i should check out Mandriva 2008 also. The downside of linux is that Windows Mobile is not heavily supported.
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eehh.. I'm no linux expert but I'm on ubuntu, coming from mandriva 2008.1. I have to see it's not very stable
Hello,
Does anyone knows how to install Windows 7 on the HTC HD2?
I've seen it on You Tube
t seems to me that like Android it is possible to have Windows 7 running on a HTC HD2.
I'm very interested to have it running on mine HD2.
Would anyone help me with it?
Many thanks
that's remote desktop.
windows 7
why would you want to?
thats not remote desktop because in remote desktop you cant use it in letterbox orientation, and doesnt have any keyboard the movie its very buggy thats a sign of uncompatible graphic mode but if thats real its good to have it like ubuntu and android
darkanubispr said:
thats not remote desktop because in remote desktop you cant use it in letterbox orientation, and doesnt have any keyboard the movie its very buggy thats a sign of uncompatible graphic mode but if thats real its good to have it like ubuntu and android
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There is landscape mode for remote desktop, you just have to flip it to landscape before you connect!
I can use the windows keyboard also.
Until WM7 is figured out it will be more locked down than WM6.5 meaning the opportunities to mod your phone to your liking with be less.
OK,
Thanks for your reply's
I wanted to use Windows 7 because I'll find it very easy to work with and I'm used to it
I tried a WAD-skin from Rajivshahi but the skin doesn't function very well on my device.
Perhaps I'm doing something wrong.
Maybe somebody knows something like Windows XP or Vista wich will work on the HTC HD2?
Are you serious?!?
Look at the specs needed to run Windows 7:
1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor.
1 gigabyte (GB) RAM (32-bit) or 2 GB RAM (64-bit).
16 GB available hard disk space (32-bit) or 20 GB (64-bit).
DirectX 9 graphics device with WDDM 1.0 or higher driver.
Sure, we do have a 1HGz CPU, it's even 32bit! But it's NOT x86 or x64, it's a RISC processor using the ARMv7 instruction set.
Unless someone gets a hold of the sourcecode for Windows 7 and recompiles it for the ARMv7 instruction set, it won't be possible!
Even IF someone got the sourcecode, there are many things that should be adapted before porting Windows 7 to a mobile device like the HD2.
Oh, and then there's the RAM issue..
Sure, the HD2 has A LOT OF RAM compared to other Windows Mobile devices.. ..but it's still far away from 1 GB.
Which brings us to the next item on the list; "storage space"
In order to have 16GB, we need to use the Memory Card.
Sadly, the transfer speeds to and from the memory card is not as good as the ROM.
I don't have the speed figures right here, so I guess I can't argue that memory card speed isn't possible.
But I am 100% sure you'd need at least Class 6. (Those 16GB Class 6 cards are cheap, right?)
And at the end of the list; DirectX 9 graphics.
Thanks to one or more XDA members, we are slowly but steadily getting better #D hardware drivers.
Though we are not WDDM 1.0 compliant yet.
Probably never will be, as the hardware just isn't good enough.
You'll be happy to know, though, that we are able to emulate enough Intel CPU power to run Windows 95 on our devices!
YouTube
BenBok said:
I've seen it on You Tube
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If you look closely at that video in 720p, you'll notice the contents of "Computer"
I find it HIGHLY unlikely that his HD2 has THAT much storage space on either C: or D:
Where he's gotten that third local disk drive from, I have no idea..
Or how he got two DVD-ROMs conneted to it.
In the words of the youtube trolls; "Fake!"
Hmmm, just curious as to why you'd want something like that in your pocket. Buy an HTC Shift or a TabletPC. It'd much easier for you & probably cheaper to put Windows 7 on if you consider all the Advil, Aleve, Tylenol & whatever other headache medicine you'll save on.
OK,
You've got me convinced.
Dumb idea.
Is there any working skin to do the job on a HD2.
I've seen many skin's/ rom's, but till now nothing looks like something I want.
Maybe there is a site/tutorial how to make such a skin/ROM?
@topic
oh guys....
please....
search..........
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=677921
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=688317
Bonzo said:
If you look closely at that video in 720p, you'll notice the contents of "Computer"
I find it HIGHLY unlikely that his HD2 has THAT much storage space on either C: or D:
Where he's gotten that third local disk drive from, I have no idea..
Or how he got two DVD-ROMs conneted to it.
In the words of the youtube trolls; "Fake!"
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It's not fake, it's remote desktop.
OK,
Since I'm curious how it's done, maybe one of you wants to tell me how to connect to my PC (windows 7) with Remote Desktop Mobile.
I'm not familiar with it, please tell me in plain English. Thanks
HD2 with capacitive screen is freaking useless on remote desktop!
if you want to remote desktop, get a windows phone with resistive screen!
notice on the video, he never used the on-screen keyboard (remote pc keyboard) cus it freaking impossible to use on capacitive screen!
BenBok said:
OK,
Since I'm curious how it's done, maybe one of you wants to tell me how to connect to my PC (windows 7) with Remote Desktop Mobile.
I'm not familiar with it, please tell me in plain English. Thanks
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If you have Win7 Home Premium, Home or Basic, you can't.
If you have Win7 Professional or Ultimate, then:
- Connect your HD2 to your Wifi network, then find the IP of the Win7 computer
- To find the IP on the Win7 computer;
click on Start
type ' command ' into the "Search Programs and Files" box
click on "Command Prompt"
type ' ipconfig ' into the black box that appears
press Return or Enter on your keyboard
in the list that comes up, look for "IP address" under the wireless adaptor, usually starts with 192.168
- Open Remote Desktop on your HD2
- Enter the IP address of your computer and try to connect.
- If it doesn't connect, try checking your firewall on your Win7 computer to make sure Remote Desktop is allowed.
netnerd said:
HD2 with capacitive screen is freaking useless on remote desktop!
if you want to remote desktop, get a windows phone with resistive screen!
notice on the video, he never used the on-screen keyboard (remote pc keyboard) cus it freaking impossible to use on capacitive screen!
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Yeah, I agree.
Though I wonder if a bluetooth keyboard would work. probably?
Touch-screen works and that's input. And we can get output from the host computer. Maybe I'll try that one day.
Hi guys, i tried to install windows 7 on my HD2,
seems ok.
but Android is the way forward for apps
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Hi guys, i tried to install windows 7 on my HD2,
seems ok.
but Android is the way forward for apps
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Wow, you got Windows 7 on your HD2? Now that would be a development...
(Guess it´s Windows Phone 7, no?).
Concerning apps, I don´t understand what people want...
Is it the number of apps which stands for the quality of what you get? According to my personal experience and opinion, 95% of all apps in Apple´s app store are just crap, and Android? Well, quite a bit chaotic, and quite a lot of crap, too.
But then again, thanks to a huge devs community like you find it here at xda, Android has a massive number of small apps which are really following user requests. And not just farts and other useless joke apps.
Hi, I am about to get an HTC Shift here soon.
I was wondering which OS to put on the device.
I need to know which OS will run the smoothest. (Videos, gaming, not freezing up, etc.).
I know that there are some people here that know the answer. I'd really appreciate it if any of you can help me out here. Thanks guys!
Also, which would be the fastest version? Home, Tablet, Professional, etc.?
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Hi, I am about to get an HTC Shift here soon.
I was wondering which OS to put on the device.
I need to know which OS will run the smoothest. (Videos, gaming, not freezing up, etc.).
I know that there are some people here that know the answer. I'd really appreciate it if any of you can help me out here. Thanks guys!
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Choose windows 7, Windows xp just doesn't bring what you want due to the lack of good touch input, windows vista is slow. Windows 7 and XP performance are almost the same..
Messing around a bit 7 is best. 8 is beta and weird, XP is old and out of date for touch and such, Vista is a lost cause.
I got a 2gb RAM module for $95 off ebay by trading in my 1gb module. Shop around, you can find great deals.
Soon I am going to load Ubuntu 12.04 on it, I think in the long run of things it might work best, I'll post my findings.
Thanks for your response man. I think I found the correct drivers for Windows 7.
It was a pack I found here on XDA. It's too bad... 99% of the links for the HTC Shift Drivers are all bad.
Actually. I have a question. Would you happen to know if I install Windows 7, will the Windows Mobile part still be there? And also, do you think you could link me to the correct thread where you can use the HTC Shift as a phone?
That would be extremely helpful.
This is where I got the Drivers for Windows 7. - http://tb.gtxhosting.ru/pub/htc_shift.zip
I hope that is right.
I also somehow found a Pack for Windows XP Drivers. Do you think this is right? Here's the link. - http://archive02.filefactory.com/dl...29dc3cea11302048b02728/n/drivers_shift_XP.rar
Let me know, I'd really appreciate it. I'm glad to see that there are still some people who post about this device. =D
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Thanks for your response man. I think I found the correct drivers for Windows 7.
It was a pack I found here on XDA. It's too bad... 99% of the links for the HTC Shift Drivers are all bad.
Actually. I have a question. Would you happen to know if I install Windows 7, will the Windows Mobile part still be there? And also, do you think you could link me to the correct thread where you can use the HTC Shift as a phone?
That would be extremely helpful.
This is where I got the Drivers for Windows 7. - http://tb.gtxhosting.ru/pub/htc_shift.zip
I hope that is right.
I also somehow found a Pack for Windows XP Drivers. Do you think this is right? Here's the link. - http://archive02.filefactory.com/dl...29dc3cea11302048b02728/n/drivers_shift_XP.rar
Let me know, I'd really appreciate it. I'm glad to see that there are still some people who post about this device. =D
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same stuff I found and check out my thread here
The WM side stays, its a hardware VM. I dont have time to jack with mine but I will post up a good updated write up with all my findings next week on windows 7 and WM 6.
Spazer77710 said:
Thanks for your response man. I think I found the correct drivers for Windows 7.
It was a pack I found here on XDA. It's too bad... 99% of the links for the HTC Shift Drivers are all bad.
Actually. I have a question. Would you happen to know if I install Windows 7, will the Windows Mobile part still be there? And also, do you think you could link me to the correct thread where you can use the HTC Shift as a phone?
That would be extremely helpful.
This is where I got the Drivers for Windows 7. - http://tb.gtxhosting.ru/pub/htc_shift.zip
I hope that is right.
I also somehow found a Pack for Windows XP Drivers. Do you think this is right? Here's the link. - http://archive02.filefactory.com/dl...29dc3cea11302048b02728/n/drivers_shift_XP.rar
Let me know, I'd really appreciate it. I'm glad to see that there are still some people who post about this device. =D
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Don't download, Just download the official "Vista" drivers from the HTC Site, and then search for the instructions "how to install windows 7 HTC Shift" you'll get a topic with all the steps you should take. But you do have to download a new wlan driver.
Thanks for your response Armazia. I'll try to look around for the Vista Drivers and the instruction for Windows 7. I tried to look earlier, but I couldn't find it for some reason. I'll give it a shot now.
I couldn't find anything on HTC's site. I found this though. Will this work? - http://driver-pro.com/related/english/hardware-drivers/?a=12226&hit=1
I will post up all the drivers I use once its done, Might be a while yet, working away from home starting tomorrow, wont be back till tues or weds.
I'll host it at Morninglion.com, my own website, so it will stay there.
Thanks so much! Your Great!
I should receive the HTC Shift I ordered by about that time too.
seems HTC shift comes back alive since there is sales recently
my htc will arrive today ... ready for rock on roll
btw, anybody can tell me whether responsive noticeable increase
with 2GB RAM instead of 1GB stock RAM if running windows 7 ??
dony71 said:
seems HTC shift comes back alive since there is sales recently
my htc will arrive today ... ready for rock on roll
btw, anybody can tell me whether responsive noticeable increase
with 2GB RAM instead of 1GB stock RAM if running windows 7 ??
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I think its not worth it, since it only has a 800 mhz processor.. You won't really benefit of 2 gb.
I find windows 8 very good, and very snappy. Try it! Its very nice on the huge touch screen.
Best regards
I like the speed and quickness on windows 8. If you disable windows defender and file indexing (search), it runs very quickly. I use the stardock windows 8 menu as well. Has anyone gotten the WM side to be recognized on Windows 8. I was able to get it working on Vista and Windows 7 but having trouble with 8. Anyone have any good incite?
Does anybody know if it is still possible to download the Developer Preview of Windows 8? Microsoft only has links to the Consumer Preview. (Will this still work via the installation guide found here?)
I just ordered a Shift from the 1saleaday/Ben's Outlet for $199. Eagerly awaiting my new gadget!
Success, With a little work you can get the WM part to be visible in Windows 8 and can transfer files.
Once you use the usbtool, on the windows side you might need to repair the network connection (leave wifi off) and it works.
You can also use the SIM card to surf with windows 8 as well.
need liberation files
friends,my shift is windows 7 and need liberation files .when downloaded it is being saved as text file and cant liberate .pls mail me to [email protected] all the files for liberation.And also my snapVUE not working in windows7,
Hello i collect old phones like htc advantage and other winmo and nokia devices.
But the shift is still kinda expensive.
I have an oppurtunity to buy one for 100 euro.
Point is i like to play with those devices alot.
At the moment i am trying to get truevga and mods on the advantage.
But is the Shift still capable?
I mean 800mHz is quite underpowered. Will it play youtube at lets say 720p fullscreen?
I understand it isnt capable of full hd streamin.
And what about games.
i like to play older games anything from need for speed (up till underground so 1-6)
And emulators? especially n64 because its the heaviest one i am planning to use.
Its quite alot of money for such old device and on ebay i didnt find anything to compare the price with
so valuewise is it worth it? 100euro is like 115 dollar with todays course.
the device itself is practically unused but comes formatted so i have to install windows.
I do this alot on laptops and pcs. and i am also no stranger in flashing winmo and android so i dont expect to run into any problems if there is still support and i can find drivers and stufff
I hope some of my questions can be answered.
wow its really a low activity device
no one got any tips?
100 Euro is quite a good price. On eBay it's usually much more expensive.
One thing you have to keep in mind is the RAM size- you'll have to get a
214 pin 2GB to make Shift run nearly satisfying.
Like this one:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/2GB-DDR2-214...y-HTC-SHIFT-/190400263728?hash=item2c54bd7630
Unfortunately i have never found a 4GB RAM version.
Thx for reply
thats quite expensive for 2gb ram...
So can it run youtube...
i havent decided yet if i am gonna do it or not
it includes a dmg 01 gameboy.. so it makes it kinda tempting
i already have a broad collection of phones en pre tablet tablets
i will reply when i get it.
sooo i bought it.
Really nice device
didnt came with windows though
so i installed windows 7.
got the drivers working even with 5 year old threads here with dead links
Touchscreen is working
but wifi isnt. So i think the wifi was switched off in vista...
thats not my big issue it wasnt my plaaning to use the wifi because of the performance of this device.
So i will check that some other time.
What i do want to have solved is a bigger problem. I m trying to install some light games en emulators on there.
First up N64. Runs windowed. not great but playable but when i try to go fullscreen i get BSOD. 2times in a row and then windows wouldnt start so i had to run the startup repair. Now its working again. Just not in fullscreen...
Other problem is with retro city rampage this game isnt even 3d.
it seems to start but the moment it switches to fullscreen i get the BSOD instantly...
Is this a driver problem? i recall i have read somewhere that u shoudlnt update the intel gma driver but i could not find this post. and i dont know if i have done this or not i would need version numbers...
Maybe im 2years late ;P but i hope someone will know the answer.
in the meantime i have a GB DMG01 to play with and mod.
Is it such a legacy device that no one uses it anymore?
I have a Shift and I found Vista to be unusable compared to Ubuntu Hardy (8.04). I've heard better things about Win7 and even Win10, but at the end of the day, the machine has its hardware limits and at least for me, that precluded even Vista.
Hardy , through pof's magic, allows everything to run, even the 3G (if you have the SIM), and it's quite zippy. I don't game, but perhaps ubuntu (circa 2008) has enough games available. Of course, you could run Wine, but that can be a can of worms for certain MS software.
Though I run MS Word 97, HanDBase, and a couple of other MS apps without problem in Hardy.
Prolly best to stay away from heavy graphics. Maybe Leisure Suit Larry
Jake
I fixed the BSOD problem by reinstalling windows 7 and NOT installed the gpu driver update.
It runs like a breeze
GTA3 and vice city i can play on low settings but no lagg at al!
And the n64 emulator i get 60fps in fullscreen.
I would recommmend 7 to anyone with this device.
Only the wifi is not working because it was turned off in vista and i read its a hell of alot of work to turn it on without vista.
problem is i bought it without windows so i couldnt turn it on.
But its better for me saves alot off battery
This is pof's htc shift panel for Windows that controls wifi/bt/etc. I don't know if it works in Win7, but you can research to see if it's what you want before actually trying it out.
http://pof.eslack.org/2008/05/31/hsect-htc-shift-embedded-controller-toolkit/
Jake
Hey man thx for the tip
will try this when i get home from work.
ill report later
Ok wow
i need some program called cygwin
if i try to open it i get cygwin1.dll is missing
so im working on it
i found the program wil install it tonite and report back
Excellent. I'll be glad to hear that it works.
Jake
Hmm cygwin installed without any problems.
But now it asks for cygioperm-0.dll when i try to launch it.
i need to install ioperm says the readme but it seems i cant find it...
This is some kind of addon right?
Huh, dunno what those files are. Here are the Vista drivers, etc:
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0BzqfCViUrpr6UkVkY2lTLUIxSGs&usp=sharing
For Vista, the shagctrl program does wifi/bt/etc. you could try installing that and see if that gives you the missing .dlls/etc. It may run on its own, I just don't know. I have Vista on a partition, the shagctrl works, but I never use Vista/Windows.
Jake
shagctrl doesnt work in windows 7
only for resolution siwtch.
i got the hsect from this google drive page u gave me.
its same same download i found.
but this is in the readme.
HTC Shift Embedded Controller Toolkit
(c) 2008 Pau Oliva Fora - pof @ <eslack.org>
============================================
To build from source:
LINUX with GTK libraries:
# make gtk
LINUX without GTK libraries:
# make nogtk
WINDOWS with GTK libraries:
# make win32gtk
WINDOWS without GTK libraries:
# make win32
WINDOWS NOTES:
The windows version needs CYGWIN (http://cygwin.com) with "ioperm" support.
Open a cygwin shell and run "ioperm -i" to install the ioperm.sys driver.
when i type ioperm-i it doesnt recognize it as a legal command...
i am gonna try it tonite if i connect it to the internet with cable.
But otherwise i think i skipped a step somewhere.... will let u know.
I just run windows for the games.
its a pretty capable device for its specs.
GTA3 without problems.
Carmageddon tdr 2000
n64
all runs perfect
If you can't rebuild it, I suppose you could get a Hardy 8.04.1 (no higher) livecd, repartition and dual boot with Hardy (with pof's shagctrl) and Windows.
I don't believe you can install pof's shag with a livecd only (pof calls for a reboot), though MAYBE, you could install shag and only switch on wifi/bt without a reboot, I dunno.
Hardy is certainly snappier than Windows, but your needs don't seem to match what Hardy can do. Though dual booting is always cool.
Jake
Haha XD that is an option indeed.
But if i switch wifi on once i wouldnt be able to turn it off in windows right?
I want to preserve battery power whenever is necessary.
When i installed cygwin i noticed i could choose any packages and addons tobe installed
maybe i reinstall cygwin first and i can find this ioperm addon
Once wifi was turned on, I think you could disable its driver in Windows in the systray.
Ok i wil look into that.
First i keep trying to find ioperm for cygwin and how to add it
now when i open hsect it says cygwinioperm1.dll missing not exactly but close.
I dont get the option when i reintall cygwin. Also there isnt really a uninstall button... not in control panel not in the root folder.