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vLite with Shift? Possible?

Hi All, yesterday i install xp on my GF's eee900 using nLite, it's very fast and i am so impress. Now that is done and running super fast, i wonder if i could do the same for my shift, by using vLite to create a strip down version of vista and intall it from an external DVD drive.
Tne problem i could think of is drivers, do wehave the complete list of drives for vista? if so, i think it will be very possible, you get to disable all the service and microsoft cr*p that you don't want, which will speed up Shift a lot.
Let me know what you guys think.

I think the more techno savvy of this forum are working on this amongst other things. If HTC was to provide drivers for the hardware it would help, a lot...

wu5262 said:
Hi All, yesterday i install xp on my GF's eee900 using nLite, it's very fast and i am so impress. Now that is done and running super fast, i wonder if i could do the same for my shift, by using vLite to create a strip down version of vista and intall it from an external DVD drive.
Tne problem i could think of is drivers, do wehave the complete list of drives for vista? if so, i think it will be very possible, you get to disable all the service and microsoft cr*p that you don't want, which will speed up Shift a lot.
Let me know what you guys think.
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After mounting the XVISTA.WIM inside the recovery partition, I can safely say, Vlite will not work with Shifts Vista.
However, I am currently working on a solution.
I will use a normal Vista Business to create a lite version of Vista and slipstream it into the recovery partition. I hope to shave off a few GB and get some resources free.
But it will take me a few days to get that done. Will keep you updated.

Awww cumon!!
You only have a hard working 800Mz proc!!!
Give it loads of extra file handling and say NITE NITE!!!
(Soz, alchohol moment...)
Do not expect this kit to do anything normally expected of a PC or good laptop, it is a slow UMPC as nothing better exists YET!!!!
I used to see this of people expecting to see a TyTynII act as a laptop!!
Please read the specs of the device and hope for a little more from XDA devs, but not miracles out of the box!!

dude, I play mkv files on it
of course, on win xp made using nlite, with carefull a codec and player selection. there are some of us that would try to get every mhz out of that processor, just for fun and proofs of concepts.
if it were possible i would put win98 on it, and have a boot time of 20sec . It would still offer more then a windows mobile environment.

its more about the size of the Vista installation.
Its easier for me to modify Vista then getting XP to work on this.
Besides, whats wrong with freeing up resources...doesnt cost anything and makes it more responsive.
so far, it runs really nice and quick.
Can even play some stuff on it (Ground Control)
anyway...as soon as its done, I will post the download link

aquasesh said:
its more about the size of the Vista installation.
Its easier for me to modify Vista then getting XP to work on this.
Besides, whats wrong with freeing up resources...doesnt cost anything and makes it more responsive.
so far, it runs really nice and quick.
Can even play some stuff on it (Ground Control)
anyway...as soon as its done, I will post the download link
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EXCELLENT!

FPSEce now working at all on HD2 ! NOOB in need of HELP!

Typo: Meant Not in the title not "now".
Hello fellow smart phone users,
I am new to the deal, would be safe to assume I know nothing. This should be fun for some of you ^.^"
I've got the HD2/Leo from T-Mobile UK and currently on the 1.43.110.2 rom
I have the 3.5 .NET Framework thing installed as per the intructions on the tips thread here. God knows if that has to do with anything.
But the problem is, when I start the FPSEce 0.10, the loader thing starts alright, then when I click on on fpsece010.exe as instructed on Pdf, all I get is a black screen for 1 sec, then back to where ever I was, the app simply doesn't exists in the task manager. Tried uninstalling FPSEce and installing it into the device memory instead duno if that helps, but still no good.
Am I missing something here ? Was there something I should;ve done in the installation process ? Didn't find a video on youtube which is really a N00b guide, all of them assume it works first.
Anyone with the same problem ??
Your help will be greatly appreciated !!!
PEACE^^

The Post is sinking into te abyss with no replies ... Help !!!!!

my advice is to wait for newer versions of fpse as the current 0.10 is still unplayable in my opinion. the control functions have not yet been configured for proper use with the HD2 screen.
im not sure if .net 3.5 is required for fpse but have you configured your device (device policies) to use .net 3.5 in the .net configurator
before some one starts flaming! yes i have tried it and got games to work but the current controls its just to cumbersome to play in my opinion!

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itoYo said:
my advice is to wait for newer versions of fpse as the current 0.10 is still unplayable in my opinion. the control functions have not yet been configured for proper use with the HD2 screen.
im not sure if .net 3.5 is required for fpse but have you configured your device (device policies) to use .net 3.5 in the .net configurator
before some one starts flaming! yes i have tried it and got games to work but the current controls its just to cumbersome to play in my opinion!
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cheers for the reply,
But I have made the registry change so it uses 3.5 but no good ?
It simply won't start, any chance that it conflict with a specific app ?

Same problems and no answers

here same problem too

1. Do you have a PSX BIOS file in the BIOS folder?
2. Are you starting it from the FPSE icon in the start menu?
3. Do you have a PSX ISO ( game ) to load?
There is no reason to be clicking on fpsece010.exe since the Startmenu icon is handling this. With the correct BIOS installed you should see a request to select your ISO game file at startup.

itoYo said:
my advice is to wait for newer versions of fpse as the current 0.10 is still unplayable in my opinion. the control functions have not yet been configured for proper use with the HD2 screen.
im not sure if .net 3.5 is required for fpse but have you configured your device (device policies) to use .net 3.5 in the .net configurator
before some one starts flaming! yes i have tried it and got games to work but the current controls its just to cumbersome to play in my opinion!
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The donation version works great with the HD2. Well worth the investment.

same here
i got supporter fpsece 0.10 version n still got same problem

if anyone needs bios files check the link below. I've been meaning to test this out so i got in touch with some of my old friends in the emulation scene and i have managed to obtain a quantity of of bios files of many different versions.
I knew all that time i spent playing mario, sonic and co on the pc as a teenager wouldn't be wasted.

I downloaded it and played around before doing the last T-Mo US update, but I could not get multi touch working at all. Until that works in the free version I will save my money. Otherwise it worked very well and I was pleased with the quality, but trying to race with only one button pressed at a time was not so fun

semo2010 said:
But the problem is, when I start the FPSEce 0.10, the loader thing starts alright, then when I click on on fpsece010.exe as instructed on Pdf, all I get is a black screen for 1 sec, then back to where ever I was, the app simply doesn't exists in the task manager. Tried uninstalling FPSEce and installing it into the device memory instead duno if that helps, but still no good.
Am I missing something here ? Was there something I should;ve done in the installation process ? Didn't find a video on youtube which is really a N00b guide, all of them assume it works first.
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you need to use a bios rom (i am using SCPH1001). copy this file to /Programs/FpseCE/BIOS, then launch fpsece. when the loader shows up, tap "cancel", the program should start and you should see the playstation animation and hear the sound. if this worked, exit fpsece by long-pressing the [X].
then start fpsece again, choose your playstation image in the loader.
if you own the supporter version, you should use the hd2 optimized pack.

10332007 said:
I downloaded it and played around before doing the last T-Mo US update, but I could not get multi touch working at all. Until that works in the free version I will save my money. Otherwise it worked very well and I was pleased with the quality, but trying to race with only one button pressed at a time was not so fun
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You need the supporter version for multitouch. I would highly recommend spending the few dollars it costs to get that if you have the hd2.... its well worth it. This is one of the best programs out there for gamers.... you have the entire playstation library in the palm of your hands. You can even get a psx iso with a nes emulator and every nes game and it plays pretty well with fpsece. The multi-touch controls make a huge difference. Also with the supporter version you get realtime saving and g-sensor support. Well worth the measly 5euros it costs.

strange one here but isnt against forum rules to upload the bios here seen as you're not supposed to be able to get hold of one even though a quick google and you can find it

Windows 7 on HTC HD2

Hello,
Does anyone knows how to install Windows 7 on the HTC HD2?
I've seen it on You Tube
t seems to me that like Android it is possible to have Windows 7 running on a HTC HD2.
I'm very interested to have it running on mine HD2.
Would anyone help me with it?
Many thanks

that's remote desktop.

windows 7
why would you want to?

thats not remote desktop because in remote desktop you cant use it in letterbox orientation, and doesnt have any keyboard the movie its very buggy thats a sign of uncompatible graphic mode but if thats real its good to have it like ubuntu and android

darkanubispr said:
thats not remote desktop because in remote desktop you cant use it in letterbox orientation, and doesnt have any keyboard the movie its very buggy thats a sign of uncompatible graphic mode but if thats real its good to have it like ubuntu and android
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There is landscape mode for remote desktop, you just have to flip it to landscape before you connect!
I can use the windows keyboard also.

Until WM7 is figured out it will be more locked down than WM6.5 meaning the opportunities to mod your phone to your liking with be less.

OK,
Thanks for your reply's
I wanted to use Windows 7 because I'll find it very easy to work with and I'm used to it
I tried a WAD-skin from Rajivshahi but the skin doesn't function very well on my device.
Perhaps I'm doing something wrong.
Maybe somebody knows something like Windows XP or Vista wich will work on the HTC HD2?

Are you serious?!?
Look at the specs needed to run Windows 7:
1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor.
1 gigabyte (GB) RAM (32-bit) or 2 GB RAM (64-bit).
16 GB available hard disk space (32-bit) or 20 GB (64-bit).
DirectX 9 graphics device with WDDM 1.0 or higher driver.
Sure, we do have a 1HGz CPU, it's even 32bit! But it's NOT x86 or x64, it's a RISC processor using the ARMv7 instruction set.
Unless someone gets a hold of the sourcecode for Windows 7 and recompiles it for the ARMv7 instruction set, it won't be possible!
Even IF someone got the sourcecode, there are many things that should be adapted before porting Windows 7 to a mobile device like the HD2.
Oh, and then there's the RAM issue..
Sure, the HD2 has A LOT OF RAM compared to other Windows Mobile devices.. ..but it's still far away from 1 GB.
Which brings us to the next item on the list; "storage space"
In order to have 16GB, we need to use the Memory Card.
Sadly, the transfer speeds to and from the memory card is not as good as the ROM.
I don't have the speed figures right here, so I guess I can't argue that memory card speed isn't possible.
But I am 100% sure you'd need at least Class 6. (Those 16GB Class 6 cards are cheap, right?)
And at the end of the list; DirectX 9 graphics.
Thanks to one or more XDA members, we are slowly but steadily getting better #D hardware drivers.
Though we are not WDDM 1.0 compliant yet.
Probably never will be, as the hardware just isn't good enough.
You'll be happy to know, though, that we are able to emulate enough Intel CPU power to run Windows 95 on our devices!

YouTube
BenBok said:
I've seen it on You Tube
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If you look closely at that video in 720p, you'll notice the contents of "Computer"
I find it HIGHLY unlikely that his HD2 has THAT much storage space on either C: or D:
Where he's gotten that third local disk drive from, I have no idea..
Or how he got two DVD-ROMs conneted to it.
In the words of the youtube trolls; "Fake!"

Hmmm, just curious as to why you'd want something like that in your pocket. Buy an HTC Shift or a TabletPC. It'd much easier for you & probably cheaper to put Windows 7 on if you consider all the Advil, Aleve, Tylenol & whatever other headache medicine you'll save on.

OK,
You've got me convinced.
Dumb idea.
Is there any working skin to do the job on a HD2.
I've seen many skin's/ rom's, but till now nothing looks like something I want.
Maybe there is a site/tutorial how to make such a skin/ROM?

@topic
oh guys....
please....
search..........
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=677921
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=688317

Bonzo said:
If you look closely at that video in 720p, you'll notice the contents of "Computer"
I find it HIGHLY unlikely that his HD2 has THAT much storage space on either C: or D:
Where he's gotten that third local disk drive from, I have no idea..
Or how he got two DVD-ROMs conneted to it.
In the words of the youtube trolls; "Fake!"
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It's not fake, it's remote desktop.

OK,
Since I'm curious how it's done, maybe one of you wants to tell me how to connect to my PC (windows 7) with Remote Desktop Mobile.
I'm not familiar with it, please tell me in plain English. Thanks

HD2 with capacitive screen is freaking useless on remote desktop!
if you want to remote desktop, get a windows phone with resistive screen!
notice on the video, he never used the on-screen keyboard (remote pc keyboard) cus it freaking impossible to use on capacitive screen!

BenBok said:
OK,
Since I'm curious how it's done, maybe one of you wants to tell me how to connect to my PC (windows 7) with Remote Desktop Mobile.
I'm not familiar with it, please tell me in plain English. Thanks
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If you have Win7 Home Premium, Home or Basic, you can't.
If you have Win7 Professional or Ultimate, then:
- Connect your HD2 to your Wifi network, then find the IP of the Win7 computer
- To find the IP on the Win7 computer;
click on Start
type ' command ' into the "Search Programs and Files" box
click on "Command Prompt"
type ' ipconfig ' into the black box that appears
press Return or Enter on your keyboard
in the list that comes up, look for "IP address" under the wireless adaptor, usually starts with 192.168
- Open Remote Desktop on your HD2
- Enter the IP address of your computer and try to connect.
- If it doesn't connect, try checking your firewall on your Win7 computer to make sure Remote Desktop is allowed.

netnerd said:
HD2 with capacitive screen is freaking useless on remote desktop!
if you want to remote desktop, get a windows phone with resistive screen!
notice on the video, he never used the on-screen keyboard (remote pc keyboard) cus it freaking impossible to use on capacitive screen!
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Yeah, I agree.
Though I wonder if a bluetooth keyboard would work. probably?
Touch-screen works and that's input. And we can get output from the host computer. Maybe I'll try that one day.

Hi guys, i tried to install windows 7 on my HD2,
seems ok.
but Android is the way forward for apps

mannhoe said:
Hi guys, i tried to install windows 7 on my HD2,
seems ok.
but Android is the way forward for apps
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Wow, you got Windows 7 on your HD2? Now that would be a development...
(Guess it´s Windows Phone 7, no?).
Concerning apps, I don´t understand what people want...
Is it the number of apps which stands for the quality of what you get? According to my personal experience and opinion, 95% of all apps in Apple´s app store are just crap, and Android? Well, quite a bit chaotic, and quite a lot of crap, too.
But then again, thanks to a huge devs community like you find it here at xda, Android has a massive number of small apps which are really following user requests. And not just farts and other useless joke apps.

XP Tips and Tricks

After years of running the wondrous pof's Hardy 8.04.1 Shift setup, I've gone back to XP. Mainly because Links2 (the fastest browser for this ancient hardware) no longer works with all sites due to its lack of security updates.
cygwin's Links2 2.14 for Windows has enough updated security, so one can visit any site. slimjet chrome browser for XP still syncs with google, but site-rendering is pretty glacial.
As usual, the sd card reader in XP is buggy, mostly due to its old 2002 driver that seems un-updatable. First, I've only gotten a 2GB-or-below card to be recognized. Secondly, the card has to be reinserted upon booting into XP and can also disappear upon resume-after-suspend. But the second issue is solved if one uses devcon.exe and a batch script disabling/reenabling the card driver:
Code:
@echo off
"C:\devcon.exe" disable =SDHost
timeout /t 2
"C:\devcon.exe" enable =SDHost
If anybody else is still using XP, it'd be interesting to hear any of your own workarounds.
I keep dragging my Shift out of mothballs and it's still one of the great niche devices.
Jake

I've only used Vista, Windows 7 and 10 on my HTC Shift, but now it is too slow with any of them so in the next few days, I'm planning on repurposing my Shift to become an offline retro-machine. Therefor I'm intending to install XP on it for the first time. I'll share my experiences on this forum. I'm intending to mostly use it for games and c64 emulation.

Did anyone manage to find Win XP drivers for the Shift?
Thanx

TRoN_1 said:
Did anyone manage to find Win XP drivers for the Shift?
Thanx
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'fraid not.
XP runs well, and the sound works, but I couldn't get optimal screen resolution, and many programs and games (such as Halo, FSX and even basic C64 emulators) refuse to run due to missing drivers.
Since XP has not had security support for a long time, I don't connect XP to the internet, nor do I download any of the general XP driver bundles that are available.
So XP HTC Shift is kind-of useful but not as much as I had hoped. I'm thinking of going back to an offline Windows 7.
I uploaded a couple of HTC Shift Windows XP videos today on YouTube. Here are the links:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7LbdGV1Rjg&t=9s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTU6Kvua7oI&t=458s

Resurrection of the HTC Shift

I resurrected my HTC Shift to something noble in this pandemic: platform of old strategy games.
Running beautiful.
https://youtu.be/V9AadusOpMk

Very nice. Are you going to make any more videos?
When I get Windows 7 back on my Shift it's also going to be a dedicated retro games machine.
I have Windows 7 and Windows 10 on bootable USB sticks. In the past these have worked with my HTC Shift, but ever since I installed XP they boot and start but then reboot again. I suspect the HDD partitions are incompatible. I don't have an external DVD drive. Anyone know a solution to this sticky situation so that I can get Windows 7 back on my HTC Shift?

Recreate as partitions for Linux (a Live CD) and try to reinstall with USB.
I install on HTC via USB with Windows 7. I preferred the performance of it with the 7 over the 8 or 10.
About videos, yes, I'll post other videos of retro games. The idea is to use it as a platform for RPG and strategy games from the 90s. I'm solving some classic Starcraft problems, but other games are running very well. It together with the GOG is guaranteed success.
We only need to test Vampire the Masquerade now, but I believe it will have performance problems. I wanted to get a 2Gb memory for him, but in Brazil we can't find 214-pin memories.

I have finished re-purposing my HTC Shift as a dedicated offline retro games machine by installing Windows 7 on it.
I posted a few videos on youtube demonstrating it's capabilities.
Search youtube for "htc shift grand prix legends" or "htc shift halo" to see them.

which working windows 7 build are you using? Everytime I install Intel VGA driver(7[1].14.10.1461) over the newer version that's already installed I get a BSOD. Thanks in advance and nice video!

Hmm. I think I have seen that crash from time to time while doing a reinstallation of Windows. I don't think it is down to the specific Windows build. From vague memory, I think it can be avoided by disabling aero before installing the driver that is crashing. This can be done by going to windows themes and choosing a basic theme that doesn't have the graphicial effects. Either that, or find a particular sequence of driver installations that works. There definitely will be one. Once installed, aero can be reactivated with no problem. Another thought - I think screen resolution might also be a factor. Try running the HTC Shift control centre to change resolution, or run the ResolutionSwitchLauncher.exe directly, which installs as part of the HTC Shift Control Centre.