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Strange phenomenons with Cruise

Just bought the Cruise. Generally very happy with it. But, there are a few wierd things. Let me describe some of them:
1. When I'm in the Home tab and want to go to the Weather tab to check the situation it automatically wants download even if I've just done one a minute before. I can go into it six times in one minute and it will start to download each time. Normal?
2. When my Cruise has not been in use for some time, five minutes to half an hour and I want to use the phone I switch it on and find myself in a programme. It could be contacts or a third party programme that I have installed. To use the phone I have to exit the open programmes first. Normal?
3. I sometimes go into the Comm Manager and find that the Data Connection is on (for no reason). I'm getting a bit paranoid imagining that my phone bill is going to be high because of these situations. Normal?
Or is it just me?
Thanks
Brian

I have never noticed such the behavior, haven't read that anyone there in xda-dev board has noticed things like this. If you still have an original rom I would recommend you to do hard reset and to try to use your device without to install anything for some days to check how it will behave.

i would really recommend a hard reset. if u call them thats exactly what they gonna tell u

If this would be a pc I would think about some sort of trojan has got control over it.

Spamkit: There are NO trojans for Win Mobile. HTC Weather has a timeout of 2 Hours. Maybe O2 did something to the plugin to make it download more often and generate bills

BrianGM said:
Just bought the Cruise. Generally very happy with it. But, there are a few wierd things. Let me describe some of them:
1. When I'm in the Home tab and want to go to the Weather tab to check the situation it automatically wants download even if I've just done one a minute before. I can go into it six times in one minute and it will start to download each time. Normal?
Brian, what you need just to click on your prefferable city on Weather Tab, then go to Menu-Weather Options-remove tick on "Download weather data automatically"
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Try to disable "Download weather data automatically". It can be the cause of data connection activate so you can solve 2 problems at same time.
To do it, tap on your city in HTCHome; in next windows you should have a menu (Bottom right). In Menu Option and remove (by tapping it) flag near the voice Download Data Automatically.
So, you can decide when download data manually tapping the apposite function in HTCHome -weather main page.

No trojans?
TheOnly1 said:
Spamkit: There are NO trojans for Win Mobile.
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Is this a trojan
http://www.avertlabs.com/research/blog/index.php/2008/02/26/windows-mobile-trojan-sends-unauthorized-information-and-leaves-device-vulnerable/

BrianGM said:
Weather tab ... it automatically wants download ... six times in one minute and it will start to download
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As described, turn off auto-update. If turned on and you went over 2h with the last update, the Cruise tries to update every time you switch to the tab, unless you let it update. Then it'll try next in 2h.
I switch it on and find myself in a programme
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Do you lock the phone or just turn it off? Sounds like you inadvertedly start programs in your pocket when the Phone wakes up for some reason. I'd recommend to lock the screen before you turn off your phone. If you are unhappy with the built in lock, install S2U2 which is superior to the WinMo built in lock and will keep your phone locked unless you willingly unlock it. It's available here in the forums.
Comm Manager ... Data Connection is on (for no reason)
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This is in fact disturbing, I agree. Reason is probably the Weather Tab which tries to update in the background or do you use Push-Email or set Outlook to automatically check after a given amount of time? If all that doesnt matter to you and you just want the connection to be dead unless you want it to connect: try MoDaCo NoData. A handy tool which allows you to selectively disable and enable GPRS/3G-Connections. I attached it to this post.
sahoopes said:
Is this a trojan
http://www.avertlabs.com/research/b...zed-information-and-leaves-device-vulnerable/
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This reads like it is a trojan. But it's all bull: there is no silent or unattended installation possible on Windows Mobile. You'll always see the progressbar, and most probably you'd have to select where to install it to. What it does is turn the "Are you really...?"-screen off. So if you catch/caught it: it's your own fault...

schaggo said:
Do you lock the phone or just turn it off? Sounds like you inadvertedly start programs in your pocket when the Phone wakes up for some reason. I'd recommend to lock the screen before you turn off your phone. If you are unhappy with the built in lock, install S2U2 which is superior to the WinMo built in lock and will keep your phone locked unless you willingly unlock it. It's available here in the forums.
This is in fact disturbing, I agree. Reason is probably the Weather Tab which tries to update in the background or do you use Push-Email or set Outlook to automatically check after a given amount of time? If all that doesnt matter to you and you just want the connection to be dead unless you want it to connect: try MoDaCo NoData. A handy tool which allows you to selectively disable and enable GPRS/3G-Connections. I attached it to this post.
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Schaggo and all of you- Thanks for your amazing input. I have returned from being out there and I'll update what I've done.
1. Switched off the auto weather.
2. Set up the Mo Da Co programme and toggled off all possible access via my Service Provider. (I'll have to toggle off the service after I've used it, right?)
3. I do use Push-eMail, but I generally go into the Comm manager and switch off the Push-eMail service manually.
4. The only thing I'm not usre about is the setting of Outlook to automatically check for emails. Where does one switch it on to "manual"?
The business with locking: Is it a good thing? Since I have not tried it, how does it work? Once you have locked the phone and someone calls: Do you have to unlock before answering?
By the way, the stuff about the "Trojan" is BS, I think. So I'll stop there.
Thanks a lot for the help. I'll check it and get back to you with feedback.
Brian

Go into your mail and choose tools/options, choose the account in question and select send/recieve schedule. There you can set to manual.

BrianGM said:
3. I do use Push-eMail, but I generally go into the Comm manager and switch off the Push-eMail service manually.
4. The only thing I'm not usre about is the setting of Outlook to automatically check for emails. Where does one switch it on to "manual"?
The business with locking: Is it a good thing? Since I have not tried it, how does it work? Once you have locked the phone and someone calls: Do you have to unlock before answering?
By the way, the stuff about the "Trojan" is BS, I think. So I'll stop there.
Thanks a lot for the help. I'll check it and get back to you with feedback.
Brian
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Push-eMail means "as item arrives" setting in ActiveSync/Menu/Schedule. You can also specify Every .... minutes or Manually. Last one is connecting only when you start Send/Receive in Pocket Outlook.
S2U2 is great. Try it. It has Slide to Unlock feature and allows to answer calls same way. It's fully configurable to your needs and easy to uninstall if you don't like it. Had same problems and S2U2 helped.
Cheers

Stop activesync from running

Is there any way to stop ActiveSync from running automatically on my Wing. I close it, and 5 minutes later its up again. I've searched the forum but most tricks are for phones other than the Wing. I tried some anyway (the creating a fake server..then deleting it..etc) but to no avail. It's really annoying. If anyone could offer some advice it would be GREATLY appreciated.
If it helps I'm currently running OTP v7.4 TouchFlo 2D Lite.

try setings/phone/timezone uncheck the auto check timezones and softreset this helped with it disconecting internet sharing for me im asuming you already unchecked the use usb option in active sync

ianajcxcx said:
Is there any way to stop ActiveSync from running automatically on my Wing. I close it, and 5 minutes later its up again. I've searched the forum but most tricks are for phones other than the Wing. I tried some anyway (the creating a fake server..then deleting it..etc) but to no avail. It's really annoying. If anyone could offer some advice it would be GREATLY appreciated.
If it helps I'm currently running OTP v7.4 TouchFlo 2D Lite.
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Trust me. you might have to just deal with it. I tried the adding the fake server and disable the schedule with and without deleting that profile. I've tried disabling the time in the Phone Settings (which only certain ROMs have). I've tried using the advanced taskbar to go to notifications to terminate the repellog which had a certain description to it. And the end, activesync comes back mysteriously. Those methods were a temporary solution for me thus far.
P.S. I do not consider unchecking USB connection via Activesync since most people use it frequently especially in XDA.
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I'm also currently using Tran's 7.4 lite at the moment. I've tried the rest with same results and that's why I posted in this thread.

ianajcxcx said:
Is there any way to stop ActiveSync from running automatically on my Wing. I close it, and 5 minutes later its up again. I've searched the forum but most tricks are for phones other than the Wing. I tried some anyway (the creating a fake server..then deleting it..etc) but to no avail. It's really annoying. If anyone could offer some advice it would be GREATLY appreciated.
If it helps I'm currently running OTP v7.4 TouchFlo 2D Lite.
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Using Total Commander (or some other File Explorer utility), navigate to /Windows/Startup. Delete repllog.lnk. This will prevent ActiveSync from starting when you turn your phone on. You'll have to run it manually if you want to sync your phone via ActiveSync, but I find this to be far less annoying.

lennyjaxn said:
Using Total Commander (or some other File Explorer utility), navigate to /Windows/Startup. Delete repllog.lnk. This will prevent ActiveSync from starting when you turn your phone on. You'll have to run it manually if you want to sync your phone via ActiveSync, but I find this to be far less annoying.
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He's using OTP 7.4 lite. It doesn't have repllog.lnk in the Startup folder.

unknown123456 said:
He's using OTP 7.4 lite. It doesn't have repllog.lnk in the Startup folder.
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Ah, gotcha. Didn't know that. Sorry.

unknown123456 said:
He's using OTP 7.4 lite. It doesn't have repllog.lnk in the Startup folder.
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Active sync is automatically loaded by default in the windows system for every program you run as it stores information for when you next connect the pc via usb. You can stop this by using the software on the pc which allows you to control certain functions in activesync. Just open the program on your pc when you connect the smart phone and uncheck all the options for what you wish to sync, next time you use this you will have to manually select what you want to sync. This is mirrored on the phone each time you connect. Works with most smart phones.

Wirelessly Sync folders on PC AND WiMO?

Hi,
So here's what I want to do:
I have a folder on my pc with files in it. I want that to sync that with a Cloud storage type system online. Then I want a folder on my Touch Pro 2 to sync with that online folder. Now I know what your thinking and before you flame me with stuff like dropbox, sugarsync, mesh, myphone etc... they can't do that. They sync from pc to online just fine, but then on the tp2 I have to navigate to the web to retrieve files, or with sugarsync there is an app to install and I can load the app and download the files to a folder that way. I don't want to do that. I want a folder to always stay sync'd. I've search all over and can't find that kind of functionality. This would be real handy in a scenario where i need to constantly sync 5 or more phones together with multiple pc's. I don't want to tell the user, ok go to www.getdropbox.com or load this or load that...
I hope I am just missing something and it does exsist.

Live Mesh does exactly what you are talking about. Just leave it running if you need it constantly updated rather than just when you run it. That is the exact purpose of Live Mesh...

Nagrom Nniuq said:
Live Mesh does exactly what you are talking about. Just leave it running if you need it constantly updated rather than just when you run it. That is the exact purpose of Live Mesh...
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Unless i missed something, then it only works that way if your able to install mesh and sign in on your phone. I didnt think they were accepting anymore ppl for testing on mobile devices. I installed it and checked just to see. Without this, your forced to grab files from the web.

I can't get the live mesh program to work on my Sprint Touch Pro 2. It lets me enter my login info and then crashes while logging in. Is there something I'm missing?

hperry said:
I can't get the live mesh program to work on my Sprint Touch Pro 2. It lets me enter my login info and then crashes while logging in. Is there something I'm missing?
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No clue about why it would crash. It doesn't matter anyway, you can't use it. It's closed to new people.
Anyone have any thoughts about the actual topic of this thread? There has to be a way... No one needs to do this?!

igl007 said:
No clue about why it would crash. It doesn't matter anyway, you can't use it. It's closed to new people.
Anyone have any thoughts about the actual topic of this thread? There has to be a way... No one needs to do this?!
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It's not closed. You just need to activate your mesh account for windows mobile which involves clicking on a specific link. I did it and I got the client installed and working. Works great! But wouldn't want to deviate from the actual topic of this thread...

hperry said:
It's not closed. You just need to activate your mesh account for windows mobile which involves clicking on a specific link. I did it and I got the client installed and working. Works great! But wouldn't want to deviate from the actual topic of this thread...
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How would that be deviating? If there is a way to get into Mesh and it's not closed, that would potentially directly solve the original post.

Found link:
https://www.mesh.com/Web/Promo.aspx?pcode=Mob_FCFS1
I will report if this works. Thanks!

it definitely worked for me. you'll see that windows mobile becomes an option in your mesh after visiting this link. but getting the program to validate on your device (touch pro 2) is hit or miss. i just had to try it many times and finally it worked. then there is also an issue of the program crashing upon startup that i mentioned above. i've narrowed that down to being related to the memory card. the program will start if i remove the memory card prior to executing it. i can then put the memory card back in while the program is in the login screen and it works. still trying to find a better solution. let me know if you have any luck.

hperry said:
it definitely worked for me. you'll see that windows mobile becomes an option in your mesh after visiting this link. but getting the program to validate on your device (touch pro 2) is hit or miss. i just had to try it many times and finally it worked. then there is also an issue of the program crashing upon startup that i mentioned above. i've narrowed that down to being related to the memory card. the program will start if i remove the memory card prior to executing it. i can then put the memory card back in while the program is in the login screen and it works. still trying to find a better solution. let me know if you have any luck.
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Been playing with it all night. So far it's working flawlessly. No crashes at all. I have a 8gb storage card. It's sync'd to and from 1 other verizon phones, and 4 pc's... It's cool, you take a pic with your phone and voila it's on my wife's phone too, as well as the mobile picture directory at home. Would love to help you get it working too. Have you checked out this forum?
http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/LiveMesh/threads

You can also use Remote Touch. It doesn't sync, but it does allow you to transfer files remotely, back and forth from your desktop and your phone. And of course, you get the added benefit of controlling your desktop remotely with your phone.
When I'm in a hurry to leave the office I'll queue a bunch of files in RemoteTouch and have my phone download them while I'm on the road.

igl007 said:
Been playing with it all night. So far it's working flawlessly. No crashes at all. I have a 8gb storage card. It's sync'd to and from 1 other verizon phones, and 4 pc's... It's cool, you take a pic with your phone and voila it's on my wife's phone too, as well as the mobile picture directory at home. Would love to help you get it working too. Have you checked out this forum?
http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/LiveMesh/threads
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Can you tell me the exact phone you have? Is it the Verizon touch pro 2? Maybe it's my brand of memory card? It's definitely good when it's working.
Also, did you have any trouble validating the phone on the mesh? Took me several attempts and it seems other people had the same issue. I have been to the site you linked a little bit but maybe more research is in order.

hperry said:
Windows Live for mobiles not closed to new people.
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Yes it is.

osirisHTC said:
Yes it is.
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If you're going to make up a quote for me, at least use proper grammar. When I made that post 6 months ago, it was still open.

osirisHTC said:
Yes it is.
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I had no difficulty just now (14 Feb 2010, 22:54) setting up a mesh including my desktop, notebook, and Touch Pro 2.

mstevens said:
I had no difficulty just now (14 Feb 2010, 22:54) setting up a mesh including my desktop, notebook, and Touch Pro 2.
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can you tell me if the live mesh client is running robustly on your touch pro2? i had tons of crashes the last time i messed with this. haven't tried it since. most of the problems i had are documented in this thread.

For the op, there is a Schaps Network plugin, http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=67564. It may do what you want, too. Not sure. Just making a suggestion.

hperry said:
can you tell me if the live mesh client is running robustly on your touch pro2? i had tons of crashes the last time i messed with this. haven't tried it since. most of the problems i had are documented in this thread.
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No, I certainly couldn't say "robustly." It's more like "haphazardly."

[Q] Problems making a 'Tasker' profile launch/activate?

Decided to try this app out due to reports of it being able to help battery life in android by controlling various functions of the hd2.
I'm trying out a simple test profile as described on a link I found via google, which is simply to enable wifi when the browser is launched.
I've set up the profile, the contexts and actions but cannot get them to work and I'm not sure why.
For instance, when I press the test button on the tasks screen, I get a message appearing to say "Wifi on" as intended, a vibrate, and when I later check in wifi settings it says it's scanning for a network so has clearly been enabled. That's great, but then when I click on Apply and close the Tasker app, nothing happens when I launch my browser.
Likewise I set one up just as a test for bluetooth, a message, and a vibrate to come on when I launch the camera. Again, when I press 'Test' on the action screen for this profile it all works fine, but when I try it for real by opening the camera app, nothing happens.
I'm assuming I've missed out one obvious step somewhere but for the life of me I can't see what, even though it must be staring right at me. I've set a message up as the first action in both cases so it's not just that they can't connect to wifi/bt etc.
Can someone help point me at what I'm doing wrong, or haven't done please? I hope this is in the right sub forum as well - apologies if not.
Many thanks

Are you talking about WM? If yes, you are in the wrong sub forum

Probably best to post the profile, the contexts and actions.
Tasker runs just fine on my HD2, so I'm guessing there is a problem with the script.

No it's Android, don't even know if there is a wm version!
KPN - Can I just export the scripts or something? Can't see a setting for that (sorry!) just an import option for profiles. Or do I need to install some screen grab app and just show the screens?
I just know this is going to turn out embarrassing when I get the solution!
I've tried a few different profiles now though, even one that does nothing except pop a message up when I open a browser. Same thing - works fine when I press the test button on the tasks screen, but does nothing outside the app itself.

KPN is my network provider
as described on a link I found via google
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maybe post the link?

otaku888 - Sorry, I was distracted by my mrs while I wrote that! Duh.
The first one I tried was via a link to the Tasker website where it describes the following:
Example Profile
Contexts:
(Application) Browser
(Time) 9:00 - 17:00
Enter Task:
(Setting) WiFi On
Flash: "Happy Browsing"
Exit Task:
Flash "Goodbye"
When the application Browser is started betweeen 9:00 and 17:00 WiFi is automatically enabled and "Happy Browsing" flashes up briefly.
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Now I tried that, and have since tried even simpler ones but no joy other than with the test button.
I see I can download ready made profiles from the app itself, so I might get and test one to see if A) they work for me and B) they can highlight what is wrong with my ones.
Cheers!

All sorted now, thanks for the assistance.

Cret said:
All sorted now, thanks for the assistance.
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you managed to get it working?
I have the same problems with application contexts - no good (on desire hd)

[RESOLVED] SMS Problem?

Well I'm quite enjoying WP7...but I have a bad problem.
If I send an SMS, it does not actually send until I reboot my phone. I've done a reflash twice but it still happens. I cannot figure it out.
Anyone else had this issue?
I'm going to try one more hard reset, and test it again before doing any customising or installing of apps, see if that works. If not, will have to go back to Android....
EDIT: The problem is with Connection setup. You need to finish all your tweaks with the xboxmod xap file, and then delete custclear.provxml from /Windows if one is still there. THEN run ConnectionSetup again and it should be back to normal

Wierd Issue
No problems here.
Do you have HTC Connection Setup installed?
How did the Hard Reset Go?
Android is not the Solution.

hah, i noticed it about three hours ago too, I just posted the following elsewhere
Going back to android as of twenty minutes ago after two hours testing when it turns out that the connectionsetup process of changing the phones identity to HD7 breaks my txt messaging - welcome back the dreaded 'messages stuck in outbox untill soft reset' problem.
Lost a days work today because i assumed the client hadn't replied, he (and about a dozen other people) all got txts off me at 10.15 this evening after i soft reset.
Ive checked, double checked and tripple checked, sent and recieved about three dozen txts, changed radio, hard reset, and every time, sms works fine, instant send/recieve, but starts getting stuck after the LEO70 to HD7 registry tweak.
Shame cos i was really starting to like it.
(EDIT - downloading and running the market HTCconnection setup doesnt fix it)
As an aside, the connection setup in most androids fails with mine too, though with a different problem, so i suspect the problem may actually be with the htcsetup app, which is the base of the registry tweaking hack. But at least with android i can manually make it work.
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Bugger!
I just did a hard reset, and without doing anything else, SMS works fine.
But as you said, this reg tweak is breaking SMS...but why isn't the problem happening with everyone?
Grrrrrrrr
Will investigate more tonight after work...

i just had a thought, but ive removed wp7 now (need it working for teh morning) but heres what ill try next (if i can find teh time to try again from scratch)
flash it, unlock it, then delete the CustClear.provxml file we moved to windows and run the real connection setup from teh market again. it didnt help for me, but i hadn't removed the CustClear.provxml file, so it would have been installed again (perhaps? dunno, but worth thalf an hour to check out, ,, if only i didnt have a real life, , , , hehe)
good luck.

samsamuel said:
i just had a thought, but ive removed wp7 now (need it working for teh morning) but heres what ill try next (if i can find teh time to try again from scratch)
flash it, unlock it, then delete the CustClear.provxml file we moved to windows and run the real connection setup from teh market again. it didnt help for me, but i hadn't removed the CustClear.provxml file, so it would have been installed again (perhaps? dunno, but worth thalf an hour to check out, ,, if only i didnt have a real life, , , , hehe)
good luck.
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Great minds think alike...I also just thought of that while having lunch!
I'll try it in a little while...

Ok, initial testing confirms that it works!

samsamuel said:
i just had a thought, but ive removed wp7 now (need it working for teh morning) but heres what ill try next (if i can find teh time to try again from scratch)
flash it, unlock it, then delete the CustClear.provxml file we moved to windows and run the real connection setup from teh market again. it didnt help for me, but i hadn't removed the CustClear.provxml file, so it would have been installed again (perhaps? dunno, but worth thalf an hour to check out, ,, if only i didnt have a real life, , , , hehe)
good luck.
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This problem seems to be similar to mine
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=918059
I'il try your solution, thanks!

SMS Issues
This is what seems to work for me, after countless days and minutes contemplating throwing my phone because of windows 7, I love it, very simple and straight to the point.
1) go to settings and put in your carriers apn - or connect through wi-fi
2) Log in with your live id from MS.
3) because of the restrictions we can't download from marketplace I could be wrong so use Tom XAP to install apps.
***what i've notice is when i deploy "XBMODDeployer.xap" and "Connection Setup.xap" that is when i started having mms issues where I would have to reset to get text messages that i send out to send. I can still receive texts but it won't send till i reset my phone.***
So my suggestion is to to all the settings to get it working except don't deploy those to XAP mentioned above.
I hope this helps anyone.

mittadam said:
This is what seems to work for me, after countless days and minutes contemplating throwing my phone because of windows 7, I love it, very simple and straight to the point.
1) go to settings and put in your carriers apn - or connect through wi-fi
2) Log in with your live id from MS.
3) because of the restrictions we can't download from marketplace I could be wrong so use Tom XAP to install apps.
***what i've notice is when i deploy "XBMODDeployer.xap" and "Connection Setup.xap" that is when i started having mms issues where I would have to reset to get text messages that i send out to send. I can still receive texts but it won't send till i reset my phone.***
So my suggestion is to to all the settings to get it working except don't deploy those to XAP mentioned above.
I hope this helps anyone.
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We've already found the solution. I'll update my first post.
All you need to do is run connection setup again, after deleting the custclear.provxml from /Windows

Good to know it was that simple. I'll have another play next day off.