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Now that we have GPS, can someone help me to...

Hey, Everyone,
W/ the advent of havin' GPS on our Titans, I was wonderin' if anyone knew of any anti-theft software. I already have Sprite Terminator, but if the tele's hard-reset, that's purrty much k'poot, y'know? So, I need somethin' that req's a pwd to be hard-reset, but would also allow me to send SMS to the tele' to send its GPS co-ord's, lock device, and/or wipe storage. Sprite Terminator lets me do all, but pwd-protect hard-resets. Also, I use GPS Test v.1.04 to effectively activate GPS (COM4, 4800 Baud, etc.) upon startup, but it opens maximized, and it can just be exited to disable GPS. Does anyone know how to:
1. Open GPS Test @ startup min'd, and
2. Hide GPS Test from task managers (by this I mean memory.exe and QuickMenu (v.2.7, & my task manager of choice)? (I also use CeleTask, so any help w/ hiding GPS Test in "Running Tasks", and Sprite Terminator (SGStartup.exe) from "Running Processes", would be GREATLY appreciated.
Thanks, and 'hope the RE:s to this post help everyone.

kain144000 said:
1. Open GPS Test @ startup [minimized]...
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Upon noticing I hadn't gotten any RE:'s yet, I'd realized I could probably just run a MortScript (although, 'not too familiar w/ it) for this operation, right?

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C'mon, is there really no one interested in this? Wouldn't y'wanna find your tele' if lost, or worse, stolen? ::gasp::

i would love some software like this as well...
much easier then calling your phone when you lose it
and if you ever get in an avalanche or something people can find you easier.

have u tried astrogpslauncher??? its a small proggy...and u can make shortcuts to startup menu...im gonna try and will report back

rbadh91 said:
have u tried astrogpslauncher??? its a small proggy...and u can make shortcuts to startup menu...im gonna try and will report back
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I don't think you read the thread, AstroGPSLauncher cannot be used to access the 6800 remotely. It is a great prog, but only for opening the GPS and keeping it open while you are looking out. It does not transmit a signal that can be tracked.

serfboreds said:
I don't think you read the thread, AstroGPSLauncher cannot be used to access the 6800 remotely. It is a great prog, but only for opening the GPS and keeping it open while you are looking out. It does not transmit a signal that can be tracked.
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i know AstroGPSLauncher CANNOT be used remotely...but if it enables the GPS...then the Terminator can send the location etc....btw i still didnt get the terminator trial email so im still waiting for it.
i brought AstroGPSLauncher into the picture because...
Its small - minimal memory/CPU usage
Its always minimized - It always launches in the background...does not let the user know its running
Shortcuts - A user can create a path/shortcut that it will launch itself plus anything else; ie: terminator

True about AstroGPS, I hadn't heard of Terminator; will test. Thanks rbadh91.

tried it
serfboreds said:
True about AstroGPS, I hadn't heard of Terminator; will test. Thanks rbadh91.
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ok it wont work...the phone would technically freeze every time it went into standby when running astrogpslauncher.
unless the terminator program can launch an app when you send a txt msg like it deletes everything upon recieving a certain txt msg
if possible we could send a txt msg and it would launch astrogps...as we all know astrogpslauncher is a small app that runs in the background and not visible to most task managers and does not put strain on the cpu or memory so less chances of phone freezing
it would be doable IF and only IF the program is capable of launching another program

::sigh:: Perhaps you're all missing my point of this thread. I already know that the GPS doesn't stay on while the device is suspended, and initiating the GPS isn't the prob. The prob is that Sprite Terminator doesn't have a hard reset pwd, so you can just hard reset the phone upon finding/stealing it, and then it can't be traced. I initiate my GPS upon startup by copying the GPSTest.lnk to /Windows/StartUp, so my GPS is actually always on, running in the background as long as the device is awake. The prob w/ this is that since I need the GPS initiated in order to track the phone, what am I to do if a thief simply closes the program, in other words, turning off the GPS? That's why I'd like to hide it from task managers. Also, the Sprite Terminator process can be killed (which actually intercepts txts formatted a certain way). In other words, if an idiot steals my tele', chances are I can trace it so I can &(#^in' KILL 'EM for the audacity of disturbing my peace, but if another 933k comes across the tele', he'd just say, "Oh, let me kill this SGStartup.exe process...nah, I'd better just hard reset the phone to be safe," y'dig?

tie the phone to your arm so they can't steal it and you can't lose it.
No, really, though. My thoughts are cooking a gps launching utility into a ROM with it set to auto run (much like astrogps, minimized/invisible). Even if they hard reset it should still have that program on it, set to autorun on startup. So unless they actually KNOW what they're doing, you should be okay.

What? you have gps on the titan?? internally? how?

Psionfenix said:
tie the phone to your arm so they can't steal it and you can't lose it.
No, really, though. My thoughts are cooking a gps launching utility into a ROM with it set to auto run (much like astrogps, minimized/invisible). Even if they hard reset it should still have that program on it, set to autorun on startup. So unless they actually KNOW what they're doing, you should be okay.
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i agree 100% with that theory...well i've been cooking roms lately and i am currently testing this hard reset thing...so taking what both of you (kain144000 & Psionfenix) are saying and putting it into one solution.
so if we cook the gpslink which kain144000 said into the rom, so whenever someone did a hard reset it would still be there...you can rename the process so it shows as "ppc.exe" or "service.exe" insted of "GPS.EXE"
Now that we have solved the issue of having the GPS running there when we hardreset; the next part is to track it; as for that part im still waiting for the terminator trial so i can cook that into the rom and test it

the terminator trial can be download on their website. if you go to support then terminator theres a download link. for some reason they don't sent the emails. i'm going to try to use the gps test

There was some software I used on the Treo 650 that would intercept a text message containing a specific string and do a variety of different things based on how it was configured. It could lock the device, wipe it, wipe the SD card, and so on.
A perfect program would do something similar, except have the ability to launch AstroGPSLauncher, and some kind of other program like Franson BuddyTracker which will broadcast the current location on a website.

There's a program or whatever depending on what service you have, family finder or something like that, so you can use that to track them.
Get close to where they are, call them up and watch them answer the phone, then bust their skull in for stealing.

For GSM Phones, Not exactly a GPS based system.
http://www.bak2u.com/phonebak.php
http://free.3dtracking.net/home.aspx
http://www.wimp-software.co.uk/
http://www.mologogo.com/
Just a few available...Some of those use SMS to send location secretly other are simple friend finders.
But you know if you should ever have your phone stolen your carrier can track it immediatly and alert authorities even without GPS enabled...
Unless you plan on confronting the theif yourself (not really wise) your better off going that route.
But this might be good if you lost your phone and don't remember where....

Asphyx said:
http://www.bak2u.com/phonebak.php
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from what i see thats only for GSM phones and it only uses SIM card to figure out its lost or stolen

Try the 3d tracking link...

Guess what I found...
http://www.wimp-software.co.uk/
With mobile phone crime an ever increasing problem, W.I.M.P. offers an advanced phone tracking security system. In the event of your phone being lost or stolen, you can simply send a specially formated SMS text message to the phone and the W.I.M.P software will silently intercept it. W.I.M.P. will then send back a message containing the phone's GPS location in a format which can be entered into any common mapping application.
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The only question is whether or not we can get the internal GPS turned on when that text message is intercepted. I just sent off an email to their support email:
The Mogul has internal GPS which is not active all the time, but has
to be turned on. Currently this is done automatically by certain
programs like Google Maps or Live Search when the GPS option is
selected, but other programs like TomTom or iGuidance do not turn the
GPS on automatically and need to use a launcher like AstroGPSLauncher.
Is WIMP able to turn on the GPS like the other programs or, if not,
can the launcher be executed when the special text message is
intercepted?
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Will post back when I receive a reply.

No Data????

Alright, I have been trying to get Modaco's Nodata CAB to work on my Wizard, but everytime I try it, it just gives me an error and doesn't work (it installs fine, but it won't work).
So, I'm looking for a fix... I don't have a data plan, and all I want to use the phone for are calls, SMS, and Wifi... anyone know a sure fire way to disable the data connection? (other than calling my provider)
Also, I posted this in another thread, but would the Comm Manager in my ROM work to disable data connections? It currently says that data connections are "off"... but I don't want to take the chance of it automatically turning on. But if the Comm Manager is actually capable of keeping the data connection off, then that should work for me, right? (the ROM that I am using is this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=395173)
Thanks, and let me know if I need to provide more info or whatever. I just really need to try to avoid those kind of extra charges if I can.

You should just be able to put your phone in flight mode from your today screen with two taps. Tap your signal strength icon and then tap "Turn on flight mode."
As far as NoData is concerned: Is there anything else you've installed that might have similar functionality which could be conflicting with NoData? Also, the ROM you flashed is pretty bare. Are you sure your symptoms aren't from that ROM? I'd ask on that guy's thread, if I were you...
The only other thing I'd suggest is turning off automatic email downloads, and anything else you've installed that updates itself automatically (weather programs are NOTORIOUS for this, but any program is a potential suspect, so check them all). Just the email download is hitting the network a minimum of once every 60 minutes. Even without getting email, that's close to 2MB per month. That can add up to some hefty bill, especially while roaming.

Myrddin Wyllt said:
You should just be able to put your phone in flight mode from your today screen with two taps. Tap your signal strength icon and then tap "Turn on flight mode."
As far as NoData is concerned: Is there anything else you've installed that might have similar functionality which could be conflicting with NoData? Also, the ROM you flashed is pretty bare. Are you sure your symptoms aren't from that ROM? I'd ask on that guy's thread, if I were you...
The only other thing I'd suggest is turning off automatic email downloads, and anything else you've installed that updates itself automatically (weather programs are NOTORIOUS for this, but any program is a potential suspect, so check them all). Just the email download is hitting the network a minimum of once every 60 minutes. Even without getting email, that's close to 2MB per month. That can add up to some hefty bill, especially while roaming.
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Thanks for your reply. The Comm Manager has a button to turn on/off flight mode, so I should be able to do that pretty easily (I can reach the COMM Manager in 2 taps as well). It also has one to turn on/off Wifi, Bluetooth, Cellular Radio, and Data Connection (maybe one more, but I can't remember it at the moment... my Wizard is at home). My question concerning the Comm Manager is whether or not keeping the Data Connection setting "off" will act as a "disabler" (meaning, if I keep it off, it won't come on automatically or anything at any time unless I turn it on). If it truly does work like that all the time, then I should be set... I just don't know if it does or not.
The ROM is pretty bare, but I don't think I've downloaded anything that would conflict with NoData. The only CAB files I've put on there are SPB Mobile Shell 2.1, PCM Keyboard, TCPMP Player, Total Commander, and BatteryStatus. I know Mobile Shell has the Weather program, but so far it has only updated itself when I have synced it to my PC. I haven't set up my email yet, but I would definitely turn off automatic email downloads no matter what.
So basically, it all kind of depends on whether the "Data Connection" tab in my Comm Manager is capable of actually stopping my phone from connecting to the data network when I have it set to off. Or if there's a way to fix the NoData CAB, then that should work too. But if anyone knows any other options/solutions (again, other than calling AT&T and having them block all data... which I can do, but I'd rather just do it myself), please let me know.

It should work. I can't speak to the specifics of your ROM, so if it doesn't work, you'll have to take that up with the cook, not me.
You can easily test this, though. In the comm manager, turn off the phone radio. Then try to open your web browser, and surf to something (it caches the home page, so that's going to show up anyways...). If you get out, then the phone is accessing the network after you "turned it off."
Also did you see the note from the developer's post on MoDaCo.com?
Note that if you get bizarre registry errors on toggling, you need to app unlock your device (e.g. with SDA Application Unlocker).
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Myrddin Wyllt said:
It should work. I can't speak to the specifics of your ROM, so if it doesn't work, you'll have to take that up with the cook, not me.
You can easily test this, though. In the comm manager, turn off the phone radio. Then try to open your web browser, and surf to something (it caches the home page, so that's going to show up anyways...). If you get out, then the phone is accessing the network after you "turned it off."
Also did you see the note from the developer's post on MoDaCo.com?
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Yeah, I guess I just skimmed over that note at Modaco.com... but anyway, I tried it (using the SDA Application Unlock tool, which worked successfully) to no avail. The same error came up while trying to run the NoData CAB (I reinstalled it). The error reads:
NoData.exe
NullReferenceException
at NoData.frmMain.PopulateListBox()
at
NoData.frmMain.frmMain_Load(Object
sender, EventArgs e)
at
System.Windows.Forms.Form.OnLoad(E
ventArgs e)
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System.Windows.Forms.Form._SetVisibl
eNotify(Boolean fVis)
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System.Windows.Forms.Control.set_Visi
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System.Windows.Forms.Application.Run
(Form fm)
at NoData.frmMain.Main()
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I still haven't tried your suggestion with the Comm Manager yet (kind of waiting for a response in that other thread first)... but it looks like the NoData CAB isn't going to work unless someone knows how to fix whatever the error message is saying.

awillquik said:
I still haven't tried your suggestion with the Comm Manager yet (kind of waiting for a response in that other thread first)... but it looks like the NoData CAB isn't going to work unless someone knows how to fix whatever the error message is saying.
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Since I don't think NoData is being actively developed any more, you're probably SOL for a repair/update from them...
Try this: delete both NoData and the App Unlocker. Install the App Unlocker again, then install NoData. The installation may have been fouled by the Wizard because app loading wasn't unlocked at the time.

you ALWAYS get error, when GPRS/etc settings are not SET.
this program is A MUST, and it is working FINE.

I think what nothin is trying to say in his (her?) exceptionally charming way, is that if you had done a Google search for your error and clicked on the very first link, some reading would reveal your problem.
While it could have been done without the e-screaming, nothin does have a point about doing a thorough search for solutions before posting.

Haha, it's fine, I probably need to have some sense knocked in to me once in a while. Thanks for all of your help though... I guess I just don't need the NoData CAB to avoid data plan charges. At least that is what it is looking like. But thanks again. And this thread can be closed or whatever.

ActiveSync is runing ?

I have noticed that my phone loosing battery very fast (below in 35% after a day). I also noticed that the activesync keeps on running in the background ?
Please advise
Thanks

Same happens here, even if i shut active sync down it still restarts after a while ?

Theres been a load of threads about this already; basically no one has figured out how to get it to stop completely yet (as far as I know). I've tried the activesync killer as well as other methods too.

Carrying out the False Server works and stops Activesync showing.
However, what I still find is at midnight my phone comes alive then shuts off after the time value (in my case after 2 mins).
Beards

SOLUTION!!!
there are many posts here - i found 2 solutions:
1 - cab file (active sync killer) - did NOT work for me
2 - worked for me great!!! here is the solution:
Ok so click on > settings then > task manager and when you see AS running click and HOLD on it, it will give option 'add exclusive' then click on next tab called 'exclusive' and you should see AS in there also, the box should be not be ticked
JOB DONE!!! this works great!!!

thanks! it helped me disabling it too

patterns said:
Ok so click on > settings then > task manager and when you see AS running click and HOLD on it, it will give option 'add exclusive' then click on next tab called 'exclusive' and you should see AS in there also, the box should be not be ticked
JOB DONE!!! this works great!!!
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Would not that just hide it?

Hallx said:
Would not that just hide it?
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Yes, still running at background.

not for me! its never there when i check -
how are you seeing it running in background?

does this work or is it still there? just not showing it?

yes doesnt exclusive mean you are adding activesync to be excluded from being terminated and therefore just hiding it?

avion99 said:
I have noticed that my phone loosing battery very fast (below in 35% after a day). I also noticed that the activesync keeps on running in the background ?
Please advise
Thanks
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From the HD WiKi:
In new devices out of the box Activesync is on all the time. To fix this you need to make a fake MS Exchange account setup (obviously this is for people that don't use the Exchange server).
Go to Activesync/menu/configure server, fill in all of the empty spaces of the pages with fake info, i.e. "[email protected] etc.
After filling in all the empty boxes, click next and uncheck all boxes sync options, Contacts etc. , then click Finish.
Now go to Activesync/Menu/Schedule and change the sync times to "Manually" , now click OK. Finished!
There is now a fake Exchange server that switches off the Activesync from starting itself.
NOW. If you want your Activesync to work but turn off each time you disconnect your USB sync cable, load the app called Activesync Killer at this link into internal memory http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=386948
That is it. Activesync will operate when needed and turn off when the cable is disconnected.
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In addition to the above fix, do this Tweak:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2481033&postcount=81
Activesync doesn't start anymore and the only time it doesn't close after use is when I've been connected with the "Disk Drive" connect option. In this case, just close Activesync after using Disk Drive with the normal taskmanager on the HD.

No its still running on Background damnn!! Why??? How can i close AS for ever??

heatsha said:
No its still running on Background damnn!! Why??? How can i close AS for ever??
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If you follow the directions, Activesync will stop running.

I am glad I found this thread as I also noticed this.
I will try the above shortly.
Will this also stop the pop up of exchange trying to connect (it says correct my details or something as it cannot connect) when I am plugged in via USB?

Now this is strange.......
I'm happy with the Fake Server routine (been using it for years on my other Pocket PC's).
However, what I noticed two night back was at midnight the Blackstone woke up and then after 1 minute shut off again.
Last night when it woke up I managed to pick it up whilst it was on and did a search to see what was running.
According to the Blackstone... Nothing!!
Now something is waking the device up at midnight and I would like to say it's not Activesync.
Before I start off a new topic I'd like to first post this here and ask if anyone else has noticed if their device is switching on at midnight.
Beards

Beards said:
Now this is strange.......
I'm happy with the Fake Server routine (been using it for years on my other Pocket PC's).
However, what I noticed two night back was at midnight the Blackstone woke up and then after 1 minute shut off again.
Last night when it woke up I managed to pick it up whilst it was on and did a search to see what was running.
According to the Blackstone... Nothing!!
Now something is waking the device up at midnight and I would like to say it's not Activesync.
Before I start off a new topic I'd like to first post this here and ask if anyone else has noticed if their device is switching on at midnight.
Beards
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~~Creepy~~

Please try:
1) Turn of a.s. in drop down menu in top right corner
2)Connect to P.C.as disc drive, then remove
A.S. should be disabled. Please report back if successful.
I found it by accident and it works for me.

mooro1973 said:
Please try:
1) Turn of a.s. in drop down menu in top right corner
2)Connect to P.C.as disc drive, then remove
A.S. should be disabled. Please report back if successful.
I found it by accident and it works for me.
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Thanks but AS never did show in the drop down menu.
I also tried connecting to my PC both under Disk Drive and AS after I noticed it.
Again, to all sense and purposes the Fake Server trick works in that it does not launch AS anymore..... It's just this weird starting of my Blackstone at midnight which has me baffled.
It never did it prior to the Fake Server trick so I have to assume it is something to do with AS.
...and again I am happy with the Fake Server trick. I've been doing it for years on different Pocket PC's.
Beards

Implemented 'fake' server method; all is well (no resurrection-midnight or otherwise). Been using this method on a previous device for few years, now on the Blackstone.

[Q] Weather settings

I am unable to switch off the setting to stop downloading data automatically although I have unticked the box.
I continues to update the weather every hour complete with graphics.
I would like to switch it off and only download when I need it
Any suggestions?

Hi,
I have a french version, but I try to translate, the naming will probaly not exact:
1) go to parameter (settings) page.
2) tap on "DATA service" (service de données in French)
3) Here, you will find what you want, "weather" and then untick "auto download"
I hope it helps

Thanks I have done that but it hasn't stopped the automatic data download

Are you sure that is the Weather the cause of update ?
Ther are a lot of other aplications e-mail, Stocks, GPS update, application update,....
By me all this things seems to work well. Elsewhere, there is an application that stops all the phone communication : nodata. I do not use it but I read this work very well on mini.

NoData
Hi,
See if the program "NoData" doesn't help you. It allows you to black access to the internet via your phone system. Sure worked for me.
Luck

The Weather tab is a big resource hog. I also suspect some bugs in it that can cause your phone to freeze. (Not verified yet. But one of my prime suspects.)
I would suggest to disable the whole weather thing altogether.

Which resourses does the weather program hog? I magine that it's a load on the battery, and the graphic use up a lot of memory. Are there any others? I would never use my mobile provider to update anything in my phone. I do it when I sync or find a hotspot.
How would you disable it?
I am only curious, so when you have a moment, I'd be interested in your response.
Thanks

Primary the ram memory. I notice it ate up several megabytes of ram. I forgot to jot down exactly how many. It certainly is not as small as 1Mb or 2Mb. Somewhere closer to 10Mb. It's huge.
Disable it from "Personalize Home Screen Tabs".
Basically, take it off the tabs. And don't update it. After a few days, it will just die off.

Thanks. Memory is not an issue for me now, but I"ll keep it in mind.

[Q] Problems making a 'Tasker' profile launch/activate?

Decided to try this app out due to reports of it being able to help battery life in android by controlling various functions of the hd2.
I'm trying out a simple test profile as described on a link I found via google, which is simply to enable wifi when the browser is launched.
I've set up the profile, the contexts and actions but cannot get them to work and I'm not sure why.
For instance, when I press the test button on the tasks screen, I get a message appearing to say "Wifi on" as intended, a vibrate, and when I later check in wifi settings it says it's scanning for a network so has clearly been enabled. That's great, but then when I click on Apply and close the Tasker app, nothing happens when I launch my browser.
Likewise I set one up just as a test for bluetooth, a message, and a vibrate to come on when I launch the camera. Again, when I press 'Test' on the action screen for this profile it all works fine, but when I try it for real by opening the camera app, nothing happens.
I'm assuming I've missed out one obvious step somewhere but for the life of me I can't see what, even though it must be staring right at me. I've set a message up as the first action in both cases so it's not just that they can't connect to wifi/bt etc.
Can someone help point me at what I'm doing wrong, or haven't done please? I hope this is in the right sub forum as well - apologies if not.
Many thanks

Are you talking about WM? If yes, you are in the wrong sub forum

Probably best to post the profile, the contexts and actions.
Tasker runs just fine on my HD2, so I'm guessing there is a problem with the script.

No it's Android, don't even know if there is a wm version!
KPN - Can I just export the scripts or something? Can't see a setting for that (sorry!) just an import option for profiles. Or do I need to install some screen grab app and just show the screens?
I just know this is going to turn out embarrassing when I get the solution!
I've tried a few different profiles now though, even one that does nothing except pop a message up when I open a browser. Same thing - works fine when I press the test button on the tasks screen, but does nothing outside the app itself.

KPN is my network provider
as described on a link I found via google
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maybe post the link?

otaku888 - Sorry, I was distracted by my mrs while I wrote that! Duh.
The first one I tried was via a link to the Tasker website where it describes the following:
Example Profile
Contexts:
(Application) Browser
(Time) 9:00 - 17:00
Enter Task:
(Setting) WiFi On
Flash: "Happy Browsing"
Exit Task:
Flash "Goodbye"
When the application Browser is started betweeen 9:00 and 17:00 WiFi is automatically enabled and "Happy Browsing" flashes up briefly.
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Now I tried that, and have since tried even simpler ones but no joy other than with the test button.
I see I can download ready made profiles from the app itself, so I might get and test one to see if A) they work for me and B) they can highlight what is wrong with my ones.
Cheers!

All sorted now, thanks for the assistance.

Cret said:
All sorted now, thanks for the assistance.
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you managed to get it working?
I have the same problems with application contexts - no good (on desire hd)