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Slow scrolling in Windows Mobile... 2D acceleration ?

Before the Polaris I had a XDA Neo, which ran only at 195Mhz. However it seemed that the Neo was able to scroll the symbols within Windows Explorer or Internet Explorer smoother than the Polaris does. How can this be as the Polaris is clocked at an even higher speed and has a more powerful hardware in all aspects than the XDA Neo ? Screen refresh while scrolling is often very jerky on the Polaris within the Windows controls, it even slows down while tabbing on the screen sometimes so badly !
Is there any driver that would accelerate the response within the Windows controls ? Why do all people ask for a 3d driver if there is hardly any application available that could utilize it ? I think the 2d performance is also way behind. Is it the Windows Mobile GDI driver what is missing or is it available but in a very generic version ?

are you using the original rom? because the cooked roms here on xda are a lot faster than what htc gave us. maybe you can try one of them. Be sure to read how to hardspl etc, because it is not without risk!

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Using the latest SWTOS. After Bepe 0.67 it seems to be a fastest and most stable option available.

I know, my 4 year old pda can scroll smoother. On my polaris all windows stuff is slow, scrolling, tabbing, opening windows. Doens't matter what rom. Only the Manilla 2D part is smooth...
I don't see the use of the 3D drivers either when the 2D isn't even good. I think Windows is just badly implemented on the Polaris.

Use this attachment...

Be aware that "Use this attachment..." means loosing zoom/overview functionality in Pocket Internet Explorer...

what's the point, IE is a POS browser anyway. Opera mobile is the way to go. my 0.02.

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totally agree
just leave IE far behind and use a better browser like opera
anyway, why opera 9.5 is limited only 3 tabs opened at the same time?
can it be fixed or it's just the way it is?

The problem is not just IE.
For example;
When I go to All Programs and start scrolling it seems very slow as if every icon is refreshing 10 times... The same when I click the task manager in the upper right corner, the whole startbar flickers like it is refreshing.

jaapie said:
The problem is not just IE.
For example;
When I go to All Programs and start scrolling it seems very slow as if every icon is refreshing 10 times... The same when I click the task manager in the upper right corner, the whole startbar flickers like it is refreshing.
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I totally second this.
It's a shame that we have to stick with a problem like this.

SuperJMN said:
I totally second this.
It's a shame that we have to stick with a problem like this.
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Yeah I got that too. And I totally agree. My sister own a HTC P4350 and she is not having problem with icon refreshing.
IMO, if there is some 2D drivers able to fix that, i'd prefer to have them rather than 3d drivers ^^ (Even if both will be great)

jaapie said:
The problem is not just IE.
For example;
When I go to All Programs and start scrolling it seems very slow as if every icon is refreshing 10 times... The same when I click the task manager in the upper right corner, the whole startbar flickers like it is refreshing.
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I don't have this kind of issues... now i had a udk r7 but also with the official wm6.0 i didn't have this...

neborkia said:
I don't have this kind of issues... now i had a udk r7 but also with the official wm6.0 i didn't have this...
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Ok look that :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgfL227gmik
The video was not on a polaris but it's exactly what I have.
Seems to be a GDI driver problem or something.

lastevil said:
Ok look that :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgfL227gmik
The video was not on a polaris but it's exactly what I have.
Seems to be a GDI driver problem or something.
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I have the same problem with my HTC Cruise.

KoDaemons said:
I have the same problem with my HTC Cruise.
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That's exactly the problem yes, I think it's another bad implementation issue from htc.

I don't have this issue on the stock WM6.0 ROM. The icons scroll pretty fast in Programs. I think I did some reg tweak on the TouchFLO scroll speed to get it like that but it was a long time ago so don't remember details.

Also forgot to say, that scrolling issue is different than the IE scrolling issue. That fix that's attached to this thread (if I think is the same one) does fix scrolling within IE to make it faster but don't think that will fix your scrolling in Programs folder.
I stand by my earlier point, use a different browser, IE is not all that.

Yes i'm already using opera, I didn't even know IE was slow, never used it

I can also confirm the problem with 2D on my 6.0 stock rom. It is too bad because the device should be preaty fast. And this polaris problem isn't only at scroling, it's about everything we do on the screen: press stard button, open a window, closing a window... everything has a lag.

As far as I remember, i got this problem with all the roms I tried :
- sfr 6.0 base rom
- syrius r0
- sfr 6.1 rom
Also, this problems don't seems to be on every polaris. Guess we will never have a way to fix it...

Opera mini

Hi.
Could someone to install opera mini correctly?. When I lauch it the scree keeps saying "Installing..." but nothing happens
Dani

danielherrero said:
Hi.
Could someone to install opera mini correctly?. When I lauch it the scree keeps saying "Installing..." but nothing happens
Dani
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Why install Opera Mini when you can Get full Opera Mobile 9.5?
http://www.opera.com/products/mobile/

When the coverable is only 2G (GRPS) opera mini becomes the best way. A page with 200 KB reachs the pda with 30-40KB so surfing is possible...

no problems here! installed mini 4.1!
i perfer mini 4.1, it loads pages so fast!

danielherrero said:
When the coverable is only 2G (GRPS) opera mini becomes the best way. A page with 200 KB reachs the pda with 30-40KB so surfing is possible...
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I am running Opera Mini without problems. How have you installed it? I always open www.operamini.com in PIE and install it that way and have never had any problems with installing it

It was configured to use "My Work Network" instead of "My Isp". Now works. Thanks !!
Dani

mini works really well at this resolution, but for gprs webbrowsing (especially forums) netfront on it's simple browsing mode is hard to beat, certainly for speed.
on a java topic, has anyone got java google mail 2 beta to install, I get java lang errors when I try to start it

Downloaded opera mini, but it seems to be a bit dodgy when opening the keyboard to go landscape. Sometimes the thing just goes to a white screen and I have to hit the end button to get back to Windows...

i have downloaded the mini opera from my phone. once i close it.. i can't find is it located at.
can someone help?

are you guys talking about the new opera mini panel? or the regular?
cause if you didnt know, there is a panel available at Sonyericsson.com
cheers

That's not a "Panel" on the SE website but "Software", which is the same thing as people have been talking about.

artesea said:
That's not a "Panel" on the SE website but "Software", which is the same thing as people have been talking about.
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ahh, oops.
me wrong

dinan said:
Downloaded opera mini, but it seems to be a bit dodgy when opening the keyboard to go landscape. Sometimes the thing just goes to a white screen and I have to hit the end button to get back to Windows...
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Try to update to Opera Mini 4.2 and to the version with multiple certificates. It will only ask you once for internet connection and save you the time. It works perfectly in landscape too

On a wifi connection is opera mini better than opera mobile? My opera mobile crashes quite often when i zoom in b4 the page finishes loading

dadeadman said:
On a wifi connection is opera mini better than opera mobile? My opera mobile crashes quite often when i zoom in b4 the page finishes loading
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Opera Mini with WiFi is the fastest way to browse the internet The second one is Netfront 3.5 concept version, which is a lot faster than opera mobile and renders AJAX pages very nicely (not in design but for fast use).

where is it located after installed to the phone? I can't find it.
thank you.

leesanhua said:
where is it located after installed to the phone? I can't find it.
thank you.
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It is in Programs / Java / Applications or direct in Programs / Opera Mini with an "e" icon.

i know this is kind of off topic. does anyone know how to get rid of the "SMS/MMS message send" notification? it pop up everytime when the sms sent out and the pop up is unable to dismiss manually.. i have to wait like 6 sec to be able to type the next sms.
thank you

Which phone model do i put when choosing download? X1 is not on the list

leesanhua said:
i know this is kind of off topic. does anyone know how to get rid of the "SMS/MMS message send" notification? it pop up everytime when the sms sent out and the pop up is unable to dismiss manually.. i have to wait like 6 sec to be able to type the next sms.
thank you
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Use Xperia-tweaks 2.0
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=441439

Opera Mobile 9.5 build 15233 QVGA from Omnia

New opera build extracted from latest (30/12/2008) Omnia ROM:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MH67LC7D
It has the same features (zoom style, scroll window, etc) than previus builds from Omnia ROMs
Enjoy

very nice, i have always considered omnia opera builds some of the best.
any chance you have a link for the rom?

In the line of the 1957 ? Great i'm gonna test it

Played a bit with this version, Flashlite 3 worked after reinstall on memory (i had Opera on SD and this one is on memory)
I can't tell if it is much faster than the build 1957, but it scrolls fast, the zoom is smooth and there is no landscape issues with my kaiser when using the hardware keyboard. I also noticed that it lags less than previous build when scrolling/zooming with flash stuff on the page.
I love it

Darn, didn't fix two of my issues - Stars don't show up on the Google Reader Iphone version (google.com/reader/i) and my phone is still identified as a mobile device for ESPN.com. The mobile version loads automatically and I cannot get the regular version to load, even though in my settings I have it set to identify itself as a desktop computer.
Anyone else run into these issues?

Thanks!
Anyone got a mirror? I can't download this thing from megaupload, very weird!

Just installed this version and now everytime i start my phone is just insists on loading up opera on its own, and if i close it, it will just fire it back up every minute
very annoying!

itwasntme187 said:
Just installed this version and now everytime i start my phone is just insists on loading up opera on its own, and if i close it, it will just fire it back up every minute
very annoying!
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I found the culprit...
the application OperapreL.exe was loading up everytime so i just moved it to a different location so the phone cant load it... and now it works fine

barty22 said:
Thanks!
Anyone got a mirror? I can't download this thing from megaupload, very weird!
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mirror
Code:
http://rapidshare.com/files/178322331/Opera_v9.5_build_15233_QVGA.cab

I tried installing this to my sister's touch and it was saying installation was unsuccessful. the program or setting cannot be installed because it does not have sufficient system permissions

This Opera version is awesome...
FAST, cool interface... Flash 3 work now...
Zoom bar in right side... no keyboard problem...
wow ! i think one of better Opera build tested for me...
THX for this gift ! happy new year !

Any way to get a SD version please?
I am using the 2520 version from the omnia that is the two file upgrade from the 1957 version. The omnia versions have always been the best.
Thanks

Can one of you guys please try https://secure.k12planet.com in this build. Im still on build 2128 because every build after this one results in the site saying that the browser is incompatible. I need this site to work for school. Thanks.
Edit: If it works, the page will show a login screen. Wait until the page stops loading because on the Opera builds where it doesn't work, it briefly shows the login screen before quickly changing to the browser incompatibility page.

^^^vidman...that site loaded for me on 2520

Hi can any one tell me how to get the zoom slider on this version thanx.

if only we could get this build in VGA it would be perfect

ngagephone said:
Hi can any one tell me how to get the zoom slider on this version thanx.
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Zoom Slider please how to enable it.

ngagephone said:
Zoom Slider please how to enable it.
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Guys, calm down...
It isn't a zoom slider like in the other opera versions. There isn't a "zoom" button. This one...tap on the right side of the screen, and slide finger. If you wait too long you get the menu. You will see a vertical zoom bar popup. Much better IMHO since it doesn't have the zoom button covering up the screen.

hello! anyone have problem that when backlight goes off it starts to blink? like one second backlight on and other off? anyidea how fix that?

VGA skin is attached. I did it real quick, there might be a few glitches, I used the basic diamond skin, but this one has all features of the omnia version. so give it a shot. it is better then nothing at least. and it works great on the touch pro.

Opera Mobile 9.5 build 15316 VGA

As above.
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?myj5ykiyit0
Have fun.

already using this in your beta 7 diamond rom. works great! thanks alot!

I am not able to install the cab on my xperia. it tells me that i am using the wrong rom version?

does this support flash plugin?

Is there a QVGA version of this build?

what are the files i need to ugrade my current cooked version. I've upgraded before with two files but i forgot which can someone let me know which files. to put in the opera folder.

OperaL.exe and Opera9.exe
I would also like to have these 2 files only. VGA version please

This version is not that good. It needs very much time to start and the zoom slider is not there.

What do you mean, zoom slider is not there?
Does it have the invisible zoom slider on the right, or the zoom slider that is activated by the button on the left bottom?

Works perfectly on my stock sprint rom on touch diamond, thanks a lot

Can't install on my kaiser, says something like wrong ROM (even though it is qvga, i just wanted to get the exes).
Curious what kind of zoom slider it has?
Does flash work?
Anyone in for making a qvga cab or the seperate exes?

LordDeath said:
This version is not that good. It needs very much time to start and the zoom slider is not there.
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100% FALSE

Where is this build extracted from?

Been using it for a while now.
Looks really nice, boots up instantly, pages render perfectly and quickly, text looks great, zooming and panning are flawless.
Amazing build. =]

It starts up very fast after I did a soft reset - starting it immediately after installation yielded a slow startup. However, there isn't a zoom button at the bottom left of the screen, and I don't think there's the "sceret slider" either, like the Omnia.

kltye said:
It starts up very fast after I did a soft reset - starting it immediately after installation yielded a slow startup. However, there isn't a zoom button at the bottom left of the screen, and I don't think there's the "sceret slider" either, like the Omnia.
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No zoom button? That's a nightmare.

as i said i'm using a cooked version of opera build 15316, but i do have the zoom in the bottom left. i did notice one thing though, it does not appear on local pages like help and about opera, but is there at www.htc.com. i'm looking at it right now, its there!

Blazeitup123 said:
as i said i'm using a cooked version of opera build 15316, but i do have the zoom in the bottom left. i did notice one thing though, it does not appear on local pages like help and about opera, but is there at www.htc.com. i'm looking at it right now, its there!
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I installed it over build 15202, so that might have screwed things up. I actually prefer the "ring" zoom though, so no loss.

anybody got a mirror? thx

Blazeitup123 said:
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Where is the zoom slider then? I can't seem to find it anywhere on here.

Multitouch in Internet Explorer

There is a video on youtube showing the HTC HD2 running internet explorer with multitouch working - pinch to zoom.
Now I know IE is not the popular choice but I find the flash support in some of the newer roms to be excellent and I probably use IE more than Opera.
Does anyone know how to get multitouch working in IE?

You could use BSBtweaks which lets you add apps to pinch to zoom and rotate.

Thanks for the response, tried but no luck. Im using MIRI rom, not sure if it's compatible

steviesteve78 said:
Thanks for the response, tried but no luck. Im using MIRI rom, not sure if it's compatible
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The ROM won't change this - it's part of the OS. For some reason, you can't add pinch-to-zoom to some programs. IE is one of them.

johncmolyneux said:
For some reason, you can't add pinch-to-zoom to some programs. IE is one of them.
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Every day's a school day!

Ah, that sucks a little, IE has become quite a good browser, if I could get multitouch, like in the video, I could ditch opera :-(
Anyone know of any other solutions?

+1
Bump, was thinking the same
i wasnt liking the new implementation of opera 10 and was searching for a tweak in IE

The version that you are seeing is a special one that Adobe used to show off flash 10.1 running on the device with 'propper' pinch zoom built in. I'm sure it will eventualy leak in one of the 6.5.x builds, but until MS leak it then we are stuffed.