Before the Polaris I had a XDA Neo, which ran only at 195Mhz. However it seemed that the Neo was able to scroll the symbols within Windows Explorer or Internet Explorer smoother than the Polaris does. How can this be as the Polaris is clocked at an even higher speed and has a more powerful hardware in all aspects than the XDA Neo ? Screen refresh while scrolling is often very jerky on the Polaris within the Windows controls, it even slows down while tabbing on the screen sometimes so badly !
Is there any driver that would accelerate the response within the Windows controls ? Why do all people ask for a 3d driver if there is hardly any application available that could utilize it ? I think the 2d performance is also way behind. Is it the Windows Mobile GDI driver what is missing or is it available but in a very generic version ?
are you using the original rom? because the cooked roms here on xda are a lot faster than what htc gave us. maybe you can try one of them. Be sure to read how to hardspl etc, because it is not without risk!
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Using the latest SWTOS. After Bepe 0.67 it seems to be a fastest and most stable option available.
I know, my 4 year old pda can scroll smoother. On my polaris all windows stuff is slow, scrolling, tabbing, opening windows. Doens't matter what rom. Only the Manilla 2D part is smooth...
I don't see the use of the 3D drivers either when the 2D isn't even good. I think Windows is just badly implemented on the Polaris.
Use this attachment...
Be aware that "Use this attachment..." means loosing zoom/overview functionality in Pocket Internet Explorer...
what's the point, IE is a POS browser anyway. Opera mobile is the way to go. my 0.02.
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totally agree
just leave IE far behind and use a better browser like opera
anyway, why opera 9.5 is limited only 3 tabs opened at the same time?
can it be fixed or it's just the way it is?
The problem is not just IE.
For example;
When I go to All Programs and start scrolling it seems very slow as if every icon is refreshing 10 times... The same when I click the task manager in the upper right corner, the whole startbar flickers like it is refreshing.
jaapie said:
The problem is not just IE.
For example;
When I go to All Programs and start scrolling it seems very slow as if every icon is refreshing 10 times... The same when I click the task manager in the upper right corner, the whole startbar flickers like it is refreshing.
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I totally second this.
It's a shame that we have to stick with a problem like this.
SuperJMN said:
I totally second this.
It's a shame that we have to stick with a problem like this.
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Yeah I got that too. And I totally agree. My sister own a HTC P4350 and she is not having problem with icon refreshing.
IMO, if there is some 2D drivers able to fix that, i'd prefer to have them rather than 3d drivers ^^ (Even if both will be great)
jaapie said:
The problem is not just IE.
For example;
When I go to All Programs and start scrolling it seems very slow as if every icon is refreshing 10 times... The same when I click the task manager in the upper right corner, the whole startbar flickers like it is refreshing.
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I don't have this kind of issues... now i had a udk r7 but also with the official wm6.0 i didn't have this...
neborkia said:
I don't have this kind of issues... now i had a udk r7 but also with the official wm6.0 i didn't have this...
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Ok look that :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgfL227gmik
The video was not on a polaris but it's exactly what I have.
Seems to be a GDI driver problem or something.
lastevil said:
Ok look that :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgfL227gmik
The video was not on a polaris but it's exactly what I have.
Seems to be a GDI driver problem or something.
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I have the same problem with my HTC Cruise.
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I have the same problem with my HTC Cruise.
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That's exactly the problem yes, I think it's another bad implementation issue from htc.
I don't have this issue on the stock WM6.0 ROM. The icons scroll pretty fast in Programs. I think I did some reg tweak on the TouchFLO scroll speed to get it like that but it was a long time ago so don't remember details.
Also forgot to say, that scrolling issue is different than the IE scrolling issue. That fix that's attached to this thread (if I think is the same one) does fix scrolling within IE to make it faster but don't think that will fix your scrolling in Programs folder.
I stand by my earlier point, use a different browser, IE is not all that.
Yes i'm already using opera, I didn't even know IE was slow, never used it
I can also confirm the problem with 2D on my 6.0 stock rom. It is too bad because the device should be preaty fast. And this polaris problem isn't only at scroling, it's about everything we do on the screen: press stard button, open a window, closing a window... everything has a lag.
As far as I remember, i got this problem with all the roms I tried :
- sfr 6.0 base rom
- syrius r0
- sfr 6.1 rom
Also, this problems don't seems to be on every polaris. Guess we will never have a way to fix it...
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new touch flo commander
site:
here
I've tried the trial version on my Tytn, very nice
lepsyfou said:
new touch flo commander
site:
here
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Too buggy...not enough features and definitlely not worth 14.99 considering there are 'free' solution here that are much more feature packed...sorry ...try again go back to the drawing board.
too much memory usage and no way to really close it without soft reset.
bug, bugs, bugsssss
Afther 20 minutes of configuring.....bug
Again 15 minutes of configuring.........again a bug
They want have me tree times....for 14.99$....this is not worth it.
Its just a rip off of htc cube. Im surprise this company is getting away with selling this since it is so close to htc's cube. Besides Between Byka's and slithers cubes. we are all good.
Not many touch flo solutions for us TyTN Hermes users though... I've been up and down this board today and yesterday tring to get something that works and is easy... TouchFLO alpha 4 and real cube isnt bad but it has to run with the flash lite program, and swiching between scrolling and launching with touch flow is rather annoying... very small icon to tap to switch, and its right next to my connection profile.
If someone can show me an easier way to get something similar to this on a Hermes I'd be glad to try. Because yes this version does suck...
My 8125 worked perfect with TNT's touch flow rom and cube... I miss that.
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Not many touch flo solutions for us TyTN Hermes users though... I've been up and down this board today and yesterday tring to get something that works and is easy... TouchFLO alpha 4 and real cube isnt bad but it has to run with the flash lite program, and swiching between scrolling and launching with touch flow is rather annoying... very small icon to tap to switch, and its right next to my connection profile.
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um seems you haven't tried the non-alpha release ..here lemme point you in the right direction:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=338143 and try byka's cube or the solution from the whoneedsaniphone folks
I will try that procedure again with 1.3 hotfix... IIRC i already had that combination installed and it just didnt seem to work right...
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um seems you haven't tried the non-alpha release ..here lemme point you in the right direction:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=338143 and try byka's cube or the solution from the whoneedsaniphone folks
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Agree with ljinsane, after twenty mins of testing the app, I ran touch flo and it broke the app., exception error and even after a SR and touch flo not running it would not start again.
also found it very slow, much prefer PocketCm and Byka's Cube.
I rather use my rom...
ETEN X500
Working on ETEN X500
htc 3600
It works great, you can edit your links on Touchcommander, and i linked it to FTouchFlo so when i use DownUp it starts Touchcommander, ist just like having the real thing.....
is it still have a lot of bugs or no?? is it same application with slither have? the ftuchflo?
it really sux...it looks ugly...maybe its better with this nice animations, but right now its only 0815...
This Touch Commander app is lame.. but I'm sure it will get better with revisions. I personally like the open and close transitions from and to the today screen, something you can't achieve with Flash Cube imitations.
New version Touch Commander 3.0
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375111
I havent figured out a fix but this version TC3 seems to interfere with Ultimate Launcher's gestures unlike the previous version of TouchCommander!
Anyone have a fix?
MM
HELP!!!
I purchased the 3.0 and it has soooooo many bugs and things I didn't wan that just sucked the life out of my device like battery indicator and htc home screen ect.....then I downloaded the new 3.1 which said it fixed the bugs I had complained about but didnt and in fact made my device crash so I had to hard reset. How I was suggested by their customer support to download an ealier version so I downloaded 2.0. It is exactly what I wanted and I am so happy but now I cannot register it. My registration code doesn't work for the 2.0.
My question to all of you on here is if anyone is interested in switching registration codes???? I will give you this code for 3.0 which also works for 3.1 if you give me your code for 2.0. I have contacted their support asking them for one with no response. I need this ASAP!!! Thanks and just shoot me a message if your interested!!!
sudist said:
Afther 20 minutes of configuring.....bug
Again 15 minutes of configuring.........again a bug
They want have me tree times....for 14.99$....this is not worth it.
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resource hog - stay away from this app!!!!
Hi all,
i tried to install the Opera rip from the Touch HD which was posted here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2842296&postcount=1523
first thing to say is it is amazing fast compared to our build in the X1 and it is wqorking really good, but there is one really big problem which makes it useless
If you wanna key in an url with the Hardware keyboard, then after starting after some seconds the fild disapears , with the software keyboard this problem doesnt happen.
I really hope that sony comes soon with an update, or an developer can fix it on this build haha
regards cHarOn
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Hi all,
i tried to install the Opera rip from the Touch HD which was posted here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2842296&postcount=1523
first thing to say is it is amazing fast compared to our build in the X1 and it is wqorking really good, but there is one really big problem which makes it useless
If you wanna key in an url with the Hardware keyboard, then after starting after some seconds the fild disapears , with the software keyboard this problem doesnt happen.
I really hope that sony comes soon with an update, or an developer can fix it on this build haha
regards cHarOn
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Mine does the same and thats the version X1 shipped with..
Anyone tried the file from Opera that was released on the 20th Oct?
http://www.opera.com/products/mobile/download/
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Mine does the same and thats the version X1 shipped with..
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yes if you longer dont write something but with the HTC build you can write and it will go away anyway so this is an different problem
the X1 version of opera is said to be optimized for the X1 and running really fast (@pocketnow.com Review Youtube Video)
so why install the Touch HD version ?
the TouchHD build is much faster then the built in version, also it has an better xperience in my eyes when it comes to zooming and other things
its still version 9.5, just another build...cant make much difference
did you try it with the same websites, same connection speed etc ?
believe me it is a lot faster on same webpages with same connection (WLAN)
the page rendering is faster, how it displays the page is better, specially on zooming, loadtime is better.
Believe it, i tested it, but have to hardreset to get it away again and to get the originla opera for x1 again.
regards cHarOn
alright, but with that bug you mentioned its not really worth changing
yes agree , its not worth, thats why i posted it , to warn the users, or maybe to see some developers to have an solution for that , maybe i should try an Touch Pro build also, but that is only for VGA and i dont know what happens then
I'm using 2723 and it's much faster than the default one. It loads pages faster, plus it scrolls much much faster, the flick scroll can keep up with your flicks.
The onlt thing is it can't use the default startpage and uses it's own.
I've been trying loads of builds, but I think this is the latest from the Opera site.
works there also the hardware keyboard as it should, i mean if you key in an long webadress will it stay viewable?
ok tested the last beta and you are right, it runs also really fast, same as the Touch HD Build and the good thing with the beta is , it doesnt overwrite the SE Build, it makes an extra installation called Opera Beta, so you can easy remove it again if you dont like it, or let it installed and you can use both
where to you get that build ? Just the latest version from the opera website ?
What about Skyfire ? I heard that is the best browser for WinMo
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What about Skyfire ? I heard that is the best browser for WinMo
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SkyFire won't even run in VGA let alone WVGA
What build is the buildin one (since I don't have my X1 "yet")? I remember there are 2 major version for Opera. The build 2xxx version has this keyboard timeout issue while the 19xx version will not on my Att Tilt
2141 is the build which is installed
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yes if you longer dont write something but with the HTC build you can write and it will go away anyway so this is an different problem
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But it is actually the same problem,it dissapears while i write.
trying out the new beta (9.51) and there the google-field works ok,it,s also faster and more polished in zoom and so on higly recommended.
hmm thats strange, that doesnt happen on mine, it only happens if i stop writing and wait some seconds, but on the HTC build it happens after writing 3 letters and i am fast
so i got 951b2.cab from the website, is that the build you refer to ?
will get my X1 today hopefully
New opera build extracted from latest (30/12/2008) Omnia ROM:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MH67LC7D
It has the same features (zoom style, scroll window, etc) than previus builds from Omnia ROMs
Enjoy
very nice, i have always considered omnia opera builds some of the best.
any chance you have a link for the rom?
In the line of the 1957 ? Great i'm gonna test it
Played a bit with this version, Flashlite 3 worked after reinstall on memory (i had Opera on SD and this one is on memory)
I can't tell if it is much faster than the build 1957, but it scrolls fast, the zoom is smooth and there is no landscape issues with my kaiser when using the hardware keyboard. I also noticed that it lags less than previous build when scrolling/zooming with flash stuff on the page.
I love it
Darn, didn't fix two of my issues - Stars don't show up on the Google Reader Iphone version (google.com/reader/i) and my phone is still identified as a mobile device for ESPN.com. The mobile version loads automatically and I cannot get the regular version to load, even though in my settings I have it set to identify itself as a desktop computer.
Anyone else run into these issues?
Thanks!
Anyone got a mirror? I can't download this thing from megaupload, very weird!
Just installed this version and now everytime i start my phone is just insists on loading up opera on its own, and if i close it, it will just fire it back up every minute
very annoying!
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Just installed this version and now everytime i start my phone is just insists on loading up opera on its own, and if i close it, it will just fire it back up every minute
very annoying!
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I found the culprit...
the application OperapreL.exe was loading up everytime so i just moved it to a different location so the phone cant load it... and now it works fine
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Thanks!
Anyone got a mirror? I can't download this thing from megaupload, very weird!
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mirror
Code:
http://rapidshare.com/files/178322331/Opera_v9.5_build_15233_QVGA.cab
I tried installing this to my sister's touch and it was saying installation was unsuccessful. the program or setting cannot be installed because it does not have sufficient system permissions
This Opera version is awesome...
FAST, cool interface... Flash 3 work now...
Zoom bar in right side... no keyboard problem...
wow ! i think one of better Opera build tested for me...
THX for this gift ! happy new year !
Any way to get a SD version please?
I am using the 2520 version from the omnia that is the two file upgrade from the 1957 version. The omnia versions have always been the best.
Thanks
Can one of you guys please try https://secure.k12planet.com in this build. Im still on build 2128 because every build after this one results in the site saying that the browser is incompatible. I need this site to work for school. Thanks.
Edit: If it works, the page will show a login screen. Wait until the page stops loading because on the Opera builds where it doesn't work, it briefly shows the login screen before quickly changing to the browser incompatibility page.
^^^vidman...that site loaded for me on 2520
Hi can any one tell me how to get the zoom slider on this version thanx.
if only we could get this build in VGA it would be perfect
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Hi can any one tell me how to get the zoom slider on this version thanx.
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Zoom Slider please how to enable it.
ngagephone said:
Zoom Slider please how to enable it.
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Guys, calm down...
It isn't a zoom slider like in the other opera versions. There isn't a "zoom" button. This one...tap on the right side of the screen, and slide finger. If you wait too long you get the menu. You will see a vertical zoom bar popup. Much better IMHO since it doesn't have the zoom button covering up the screen.
hello! anyone have problem that when backlight goes off it starts to blink? like one second backlight on and other off? anyidea how fix that?
VGA skin is attached. I did it real quick, there might be a few glitches, I used the basic diamond skin, but this one has all features of the omnia version. so give it a shot. it is better then nothing at least. and it works great on the touch pro.
Hi guys.
Today I had the occasion to play with a Touch Diamond 2.
Has anyone noticed how speedy Diamond 2 is compared to Touch HD running Dutty 3.0 XT?
Probably is around 2-3 times faster in any operation.
Opera starts around 5 times faster than on my HD running dutty 3.0.
I was shocked to see the difference in speed between these 2 devices.
opera loads instantly with push internet on on the hd which is probably the case on the diamond!
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opera loads instantly with push internet on on the hd which is probably the case on the diamond!
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I second this notion. Opera loads instantly for me because of this (I have the actual Push thngy turned off, just use it to have Opera load instantly)
Enabling Push Internet just leaves Opera running permanently in the background... You can have that without using push internet: Just don't exit Opera, leave it open! It's available immediately then...
Well...thx...I didn't knew the stuff with push internet but it wasn't just Opera.
Also zoom ana pan inside Opera is a lot faster when rendering pages than on my HD with dutty 3. Both devices runs Opera 9.5 build 16277.
All other things were faster. I noticed for example that the clock that flips when the minute change was also much faster than on my HD.
For me this is a big surprise since these devices have the same platform.(CPU, RAM, ROM, screen resolution etc).
Maybe because D2 has better driver support for its GPU?
No idea to be honest.
Have you tried installing the "GraphPack.zip" package (or the OpenVG drivers from Neo's cab) from the thread below?
Dutty's V3 doesn't include these (Touch-IT roms from Itje on the X1 did), and they do help with the graphics speed to an extent.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=496528
Nope....I'll try your suggestion...thx
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Hi guys.
Today I had the occasion to play with a Touch Diamond 2.
Has anyone noticed how speedy Diamond 2 is compared to Touch HD running Dutty 3.0 XT?
Probably is around 2-3 times faster in any operation.
Opera starts around 5 times faster than on my HD running dutty 3.0.
I was shocked to see the difference in speed between these 2 devices.
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He is correct it's just not some pusth internet issue. I try to port Touch Diamond 2 rom to Touch HD With out changeing anything and the result is ultra fast rom. Out Rom Developers change lot of things that's why they never get Stock ROM Performance.
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He is correct it's just not some pusth internet issue. I try to port Touch Diamond 2 rom to Touch HD With out changeing anything and the result is ultra fast rom. Out Rom Developers change lot of things that's why they never get Stock ROM Performance.
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You should share it w/ the community
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You should share it w/ the community
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let me add:.... please
so now which one is faster? i will buy soon or later one of this but i cannot decide. HD is HD, but..5 megapixel camre with cid video...sryyyy....ok, the screen is bigger but i wanna know wich device is faster...
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I second this notion. Opera loads instantly for me because of this (I have the actual Push thngy turned off, just use it to have Opera load instantly)
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hi, can u plz plz plz tell me how u managed to get it workking? reg edit? cab install? been looking for ages for a fix cos whenever i click on a push page, i get the feeling it's just acting as a bookmark!
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hi, can u plz plz plz tell me how u managed to get it workking? reg edit? cab install? been looking for ages for a fix cos whenever i click on a push page, i get the feeling it's just acting as a bookmark!
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you can activate it with a cab. dutty put it in his addon applications. the right one is named "Duttys Enable Push Internet.cab"
wrong post..
Once you open Opera and then close it, it remains minimized until you close Manila. That's at least my experience. The new Opera version, available in the latest HD stock ROM, opens way faster than the former version available on 1.14 ROMs.
However, maybe there are updated drivers in the TD2 stock ROM. Hardwarewise they are the same, except for the larger screensize of the HD and the absence of the zoom bar on the latter.
check my sig for an opengl test app and let us know what numbers you get for 3d operations!
There is a video on youtube showing the HTC HD2 running internet explorer with multitouch working - pinch to zoom.
Now I know IE is not the popular choice but I find the flash support in some of the newer roms to be excellent and I probably use IE more than Opera.
Does anyone know how to get multitouch working in IE?
You could use BSBtweaks which lets you add apps to pinch to zoom and rotate.
Thanks for the response, tried but no luck. Im using MIRI rom, not sure if it's compatible
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Thanks for the response, tried but no luck. Im using MIRI rom, not sure if it's compatible
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The ROM won't change this - it's part of the OS. For some reason, you can't add pinch-to-zoom to some programs. IE is one of them.
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For some reason, you can't add pinch-to-zoom to some programs. IE is one of them.
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Every day's a school day!
Ah, that sucks a little, IE has become quite a good browser, if I could get multitouch, like in the video, I could ditch opera :-(
Anyone know of any other solutions?
+1
Bump, was thinking the same
i wasnt liking the new implementation of opera 10 and was searching for a tweak in IE
The version that you are seeing is a special one that Adobe used to show off flash 10.1 running on the device with 'propper' pinch zoom built in. I'm sure it will eventualy leak in one of the 6.5.x builds, but until MS leak it then we are stuffed.