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A beauty but what a quality beast

G'day all
I recently got myself a lovely HTC wizard (branded O2 XDA Mini S, ). It's a device I've been researching for a while so I was very much excited to try out my first WM product when it arrived this morning.
However, for all it's beautiful design, it's really been a bit of a big pain on several ways. Most significantly and immediately noticable is the very sluggish interface. Some things, like notifications, I can dismiss fine, but the majority of actions, such as starting a program, opening one of the left-hand buttons or switching to landscape mode, take several (maybe 10) seconds to happen and even then the screen will only be partially and very slowly redrawn. This seems to only occur at the 'today' screen (other programs are pleasantly snappy). Anyway, it's rendering the today screen pretty useless and since it's the starting screen it means everything is taking much longer to do. Is this just my device or is this a recurring issue?
Cheers

Have you reinstalled without the o2 Active stuff (basic mode option I think). It the real hog.
Other than tat have a look around the messages is the forum for various registry hacks to speed this baby up.
It does work well, you just have to tweak the heck out of it.

So it's a matter of going around deleting stuff that 02 put on?

Basic install plus something like SPB or Magic button to close apps properly (apart from the ones you regularly use, such as phone/messaging/IE) makes the device at least twice as quick.

wilesd said:
Basic install plus something like SPB or Magic button to close apps properly (apart from the ones you regularly use, such as phone/messaging/IE) makes the device at least twice as quick.
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This is exactly what I've done on my mini S...O2 Active is really doggy, the interface looks fine, but mini S can't affort....
Basic intall with SPD Plus work fine for me....I can now play mp3 & mp4 files smoothly with beta player, connect BT GPS receiver with TT5...

To really clear all the clutter, perform a hard reset and when you get to the 'about to customise' step (short countdown) perform a soft reset.
This results in a completely clean OS thats much more responsive. SPB pocket plus is a good app to install next.
There are other registry tweaks such as disabling menu animation that make an additional improvement to the responsiveness
There are plenty of discussions about this in the other threads - have a search around.

Dunno if this works on the Wizard but on the magician, if you map one of your buttons to the "Start" menu, then you can do a lot of program switching without going via today page - and the whole re-draw of it.
Particlulrly if you chose wisely the 5 programs that you can specify for the start menu.

jacro said:
To really clear all the clutter, perform a hard reset and when you get to the 'about to customise' step (short countdown) perform a soft reset.
This results in a completely clean OS thats much more responsive. SPB pocket plus is a good app to install next.
There are other registry tweaks such as disabling menu animation that make an additional improvement to the responsiveness
There are plenty of discussions about this in the other threads - have a search around.
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The soft reset method is OK if you don't use MMS as the MMS app will not be installed, if you want to use MMS though the Basic install is better

I cleaned my mini-s the hard way
Hard reset, soft reset, then installed some of the extROM cab files manually and setup the GPRS manually too. Wizard now runs ok, its not fantasticly fast, TTN5 still takes time to load, and incoming calls while it loads cause problems (but thats only 15 secs!). Magic button is great, pick the apps you need to keep open (phone, text messages, etc) and "keep alive" and "hide when inactive" then just use close all to keep the RAM free.

Alright - I'll try one of these hard/soft reset cleans. But...
Another problem I've been having is that ActiveSync refuses to detect my device over USB. The USB connection seems fine (Windows XP detects new but unkown hardware - seems to lack an RNDIS driver or something), but a sync I can't make work.
So I can't install anything again. After a hard reset will applications such as phone and messaging be restored or will the require a reinstall (that I can't do)?
Also, remapping the buttons sounds like a brilliant idea. I'm not so big on IE so if I made that my start menu toggle I could reach a whole load of things one-handed. One thing that oft annoys me is when you have to close a program or dialogue box with the cross in the top-right. Can that be remapped to, say, the voice recorder button so I don't have to keep awkwardly touching the screen?
That Magic Button sounds handy also - freeware by any chance? I'll google it in a sec. It's annoying (well, peculiar, coming from a PalmOS background) to have several applications running at once - all that's needed is the phone/messager apps and perhaps the music player.
Thanks for all yer replies!

hmm this is annoying- new rom problem

So I put the new rom on my mogul. Love the gps. Love the task manager. However, I've run into a few problems that I would like to see if anyone else has encountered:
When i open an sms..it shows me the bottom of the screen..and not the message. not a deal breaker, but annoying.
i had just installed the rom. nothing on it... didn't even put my sd card in. soft reseted around five time to make sure... but when doing ABSO-FRICKING-LUTELY NOTHING the 68-78% of my program memory is occupied. wtf.
you too?

Right now, I have many many ways of turning on the GPS from standby.
So this is my fun part right now.
I got GPSGate, Google Map and AstroGPSLauncher to launch the GPS.
iGuidance 4 need alot of help to get going. iNAV need to work on this fast.
Other than that, it has been OK. I like the upload speed. It make my Remote Desktop more lively OK.
I think life is OK. This is something new on the Mogul, so I can understand it. It can only gets better.

trekkiemogul said:
So I put the new rom on my mogul. Love the gps. Love the task manager. However, I've run into a few problems that I would like to see if anyone else has encountered:
When i open an sms..it shows me the bottom of the screen..and not the message. not a deal breaker, but annoying.
i had just installed the rom. nothing on it... didn't even put my sd card in. soft reseted around five time to make sure... but when doing ABSO-FRICKING-LUTELY NOTHING the 68-78% of my program memory is occupied. wtf.
you too?
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SMS scrolling to the bottom upon opening a message is a known side-effect of the registry edit that changes the 4-way navigation button to scroll instead of tab to the next link on a page. HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Navigation\4-Way Nav; 0 will scroll (and open SMS messages at the bottom), 1 will tab
I am running the OEM 3.35 ROM, with all of the Sprint customizations, and on a fresh soft reset I have 22.56MB free memory. After a day of calls, text messages, and web surfing, I usually have 16 to 18MB free. Are you running the stock ROM or a custom ROM? Have you done any registry edits that would affect the free memory, such as changing cache sizes? Also, did you do an extra hard reset after flashing the ROM?

I am having none of the problems you are describing. Where is the option on the poll for "Yes, because these problems don't exist for the rest of us"?

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muyoso said:
I am having none of the problems you are describing. Where is the option on the poll for "Yes, because these problems don't exist for the rest of us"?
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I agree...new ROM great behavior...this is by far the best that Sprint has done thus far for the Titan, even stock it runs great. I just installed SPB and my memory stays at or near 18-20 and battery never dies on me.
"Yes, because these problems don't exist for me"

i updated wednesday and i use codyppc threaded sms so i dont know about the text prob. but i dont experience any different mem loss than Mario but i dont like that they integrated the tm into the rom cuz i didnt use that either but thats my only issue

well bah. i guess i get the "i just suck" title. i have a severe love hate relationship with this phone,. heh.

Phone very slow...

Well after 5 days of having this phone, it seems to have got very slow...
Going into messages and then opening the keyboard, the screen can just sometimes freeze.
When typing a message there is a good second lag from when I type it to it appearing on screen.
Also, ive noticed that pictures I take with the phone seem to be very pixelated on the phone.
Ive had 2 taskbars at once from opening and closing the keyboard.
Just in general the phones seems to going extremly slow. Panels take ages to open up when the panel button is pressed and take a good 3-5secs to load.
It seems like this phone/OS has a stupid amount of bugs that need to be sorted asap.
Anyone else got these problems?

guess it's a matter of expectations
or you experience issues I don't
I'm in no hurry to update to a newer rom myself

well it was fairly quick and i was impressed at first.
but now this has just turned into the slowest and buggiest phone ive had

do you exit programs or do you just put them in the background?

Evostance said:
well it was fairly quick and i was impressed at first.
but now this has just turned into the slowest and buggiest phone ive had
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Disable threaded SMS view, it *should* get rid of the lag you speak about.

Have you tried a soft reset? Leaving the phone running non stop for 5 days will slow it down.

artesea said:
Have you tried a soft reset? Leaving the phone running non stop for 5 days will slow it down.
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yep done. still seems slow...
is it because of some programs ive installed?

uh is this your first pda? I mean I asked because you said your x1 is slow. may we know its slow compared to what? if it is just slow. then I guess wm6.1 is just slow. Ialso have sim-free one. And have a few pda's from wm2003 to 5, 6 and 6.1 and yep the 6.1 is a bit slow.

Its slow compared to how it was when I got it 5 days ago.
However, i have just uninstalled:
Spore
2 tweak programs
Windows Live Panel
The phone is a lot faster now.
Before I was waiting at least 3-4seconds for messages to loads, the screen to rotate etc...

which tweaks were slowing you down?

yeah which one? might help us make ours faster too.

Have you installed touch flo? that screws up the X1's speed

Ok heres what in uninstalled. This has made the device a lot quicker (well, only as quick as default speed - as it was when the device was first used)
Windows Live Panel
Spore
XperiaTweak 2.0
Some other tweak program, allowed you to change what animations ran etc. Can't remember its name. AdvanceTweak or something
After uninstalling these, it made the device as quick as it was when I first got it.
I haven't got any random roms or anything like that. Everything on the device is official.
No TouchFlo
Standard O2 Rom
Ive editied the registry to remove the O2 Panel but this hasn't made a speed difference.

is it possible that spore run on background, developing it's creature.

I too occasionally get 2 seconds freezes. Could it be some cache setting in Xperia Tweak ? Since I don't understand them much.
You can use task manager (I mean real task manager which show processes, it's in phone:\windows) to check what eats CPU and RAM.

I loaded my X1 full with apps and tweaked a little but it's as fast as after a hard reset

Opera browser closes when loading a website!?

I've been having some serious problems with browsing the net as while opening some websites that used to be ok in the past, now the Opera explorer closes. If I try to do it again same thing happens and after that the phone seems to be unable to open Opera all together. Also before closing, it keeps bringing up the virtual keyboard again and again even tho I keep pressing "minimize"... is there a way to reinstall opera or sort this out in an easier way?
Thanks for any help.

same here
I have the same trouble, gets very annoying, especially when it wont load at all and you have to soft reset to get opera to load again. How can a company like HTC release a product with so many faults and problems, i think my htc days are coming to an end, no support from them, what a bunch of idiots. very disapionted. what could have been a great product has turned out to be quite crap.

come on guys somebody must know how to sort this out?!

Having the same problem but i reckon its a result of an app i may have installed...dont have a clue which one could be the culprit!!
Installed some more apps 2day and now my Opera wount even load
Any got ay ideas??

Hey guys, any of you has intalled a replacement for the top bar? There are some UI improvements that are designed for the Diamond and not for the blackstone. As a result, you can't rotate the screen, and Opera gets minimized when you try to do that. I have this issue with a 'Vista-like' top bar.

I think that might have been it. I also had a vista like top bar which looked good and at first sight didnt seem to cause any problems but i guess there were some complications when it came to opera.

Camera Not Working

Ok so we know, at least most of us know, that there are way too many bugs with this phone.
Here is an other one to add to the list:
The camera simply does not work when I need it to.
I press the physical "take photo" button on the side of the camera and then I see the image of the camera come up and it hangs there for about 45 seconds to 1 minute, sometimes longer, then it goes back to the default screen, not the camera menu.
I click on the camera icon on the touch screen and it shows the image of the camera then goes back to default screen, not the camera menu.
I go to windows, scroll down to camera click it it shows the camera image then back to default screen, not the camera menu.
Basically I must reboot once maybe two times in order to actually use the camera, again waiting the 2-3 minutes each time I re-boot until the phone fully starts up.
Any suggestions?
x

same with me but with little luck, mine have pop up windows said 'there's an application runing, close before use camera'. ususally I close beejiveIM if I use it(still not close opera and resco explorer runing background) and the camera works.
my conclusion Beejive is crash with camera. so I use palringo, the camera doesnt show error message like that when I use palringo. but lately the camera shows error again with palringo, opera and resco explorer!
what an annoying and selfish camera!
any sugestion or cab-fix or some reg edit clue?

Its Media Player. exe not closing!
I was wondering when the first people come up with this problem! I found that this is (at least in my case!) the mediaPlayer.exe that is EATING UP all available (little that is!!!) RAM.
When I have a song play, perhaps a few minutes, nothing bad happens, after closing media player for good, still 80MB RAM left.
But, when I listen for a while to music (using media player NOT slide view!) then after half an hour or 1 hour, I have only 3-5MB left. Yes, 3 to 5 MB!!! In this case, even after closing for good media player, NO RAM is returned! I have only 3-5MB available RAM. And of course that is not enough to run the Camera!
Unless we find a program that can kill the mediaplayer.exe for good and that will indeed return that memory, we have no other option but a restart!

Camera Video Choppy too!
And now since I made a first video... or better tried to make it with this crappy phone/camera, I found that the recorded video is choppy, it seems to hang when the camera is moved or objects move.
Really bad. Anybody found a reg tweak to perhaps fix this or make it at least better? This is NO WAY 30fps, not even 20!

Memory manager
michaelthemage said:
Unless we find a program that can kill the mediaplayer.exe for good and that will indeed return that memory, we have no other option but a restart!
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Have you tried e.g. MemMaid from DinarSoft?
I have had trial version installed once, looked fine. But there seems to be u lot of similar tools. I just never needed any as badly as you do.

Well, actuall I think this is caused by Slide|View. Because I was fed up with this crap, I did a hard reset and stoped the custom install. I installed all I wanted/needed Manually!
And of course I did NOT install TileWave, SlideView and any other crap panel, exept the Growing Panel (just to brag a little ;-)
Now, media player does not take even 10MB and all is well. While playing music I can make pictues even.
So far all is well. The only thing bothering me now is, every other day a message pops up either wanting to send a SMS to register my phone, or a customer survey from microsucks.
If anybody knows HOW to stop it without actually doing it, please let us know.

michaelthemage said:
Well, actuall I think this is caused by Slide|View. Because I was fed up with this crap, I did a hard reset and stoped the custom install. I installed all I wanted/needed Manually!
And of course I did NOT install TileWave, SlideView and any other crap panel, exept the Growing Panel (just to brag a little ;-)
Now, media player does not take even 10MB and all is well. While playing music I can make pictues even.
So far all is well. The only thing bothering me now is, every other day a message pops up either wanting to send a SMS to register my phone, or a customer survey from microsucks.
If anybody knows HOW to stop it without actually doing it, please let us know.
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That's strange because I think it's actually Media Player itself.
Since latest FW I use TileWave and Slide View, uninstalled the rest of the flashy panels (City, Growing, SPB) and never had any problem with running camera.
I listen to alot of music but always from SlideView, no RAM problems here....
BTW if you want to kill any process, SKTools does it.

michaelthemage said:
Well, actuall I think this is caused by Slide|View. Because I was fed up with this crap, I did a hard reset and stoped the custom install. I installed all I wanted/needed Manually!
And of course I did NOT install TileWave, SlideView and any other crap panel, exept the Growing Panel (just to brag a little ;-)
Now, media player does not take even 10MB and all is well. While playing music I can make pictues even.
So far all is well. The only thing bothering me now is, every other day a message pops up either wanting to send a SMS to register my phone, or a customer survey from microsucks.
If anybody knows HOW to stop it without actually doing it, please let us know.
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Just wanted to share my experience on this: I remember choosing cancel and it would stop. Did you press any hardware buttons instead or the X button on the window?

Camera did not start.... again!
Well, I found the registry setting for these crappy sms sending msgs. Now its gone!
BUT, today I still had 110MB left and the camera did the 'cannot start' crap. Just did not start, whatever I did.
Had to restart the entire phone in order to get it startup again. So I guess it is not the memory shrotage that seemed to have caused it before.