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Best GPS Navigation Program For Hermes?

I recently purchased a GPS unit for my Hermes and am very interested in knowing what navigation programs everyone likes for traveling. I'm going to be using this in the US and occasionally in Canada - thanks for your input!

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lacroixdp said:
I recently purchased a GPS unit for my Hermes and am very interested in knowing what navigation programs everyone likes for traveling. I'm going to be using this in the US and occasionally in Canada - thanks for your input!
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I used TomTom 5 and now Version 6 with no issues at all. I've seen co-pilot live 6 up and running and I'm very impressed with that too, but TomTom has never let me down before, so I'd recommend that.

i 2nd tomtom navigator 6 (apart from the lockup sometimes when it sarts its great)

I'll give that a shot - thanks much! It's pretty pricey but it looks to be the best out there!

Tomtom 6 seems to do the job.. expensive though, very old maps in some cases, people in the US have been *****ing about it doing silly things.
Here in australia though, no problems so far. Although I'd like a map update to tell it of some local changes..

i am using tomtom5. it's ok, although sometimes it hangs the hermes.

Best GPS software depends a lot on your location; because of it's obvious purpose, the most important things are area coverage and maps quality, then comes the interface, POI management and so on... Tried TomTom Mobile and iGO and stuck with the latest, because the maps are far better and precise (in Romania where I live).
For off-road I use GPSDash, it has all the features some might need + the posibility to create user maps.

Entire USA in 1GB microSD w/ OCN5
Any body tried OnCourse Navigator 5 on their TYTN? I think this GPS software blows TomTom away w/ seamless USA fitting in 1GB microSD. ETA,elevation,speed displayed in 3D mode, map refresh rate of 4fps compared to the usual 1fps with the other usual display-(like time and next street to turn)
I just hope it is compatible with the Tytn...

Try iGo Europe 2006 (http://www.i-go.com/en/products/iGO_2006_SD/screenshots.php). VERY FAST and has less problem than TT. It also has better graphics.
The downside is that the POI listing sucks. If I search for McDonald's around my current location, it'll list those from 100 meters to 50 kilometers! The software enough to know I won't drive that long from my current location just to get a fries.

Well, I got Tomtom6, but my GPS unit that was supposed to be shipped to me today was reported as out of stock - so sounds like I'll be waiting a few more days to try it :/

I use the Garmin Que software with a Garmin GPS10 receiver. Works great. I own the North America maps as well as the Europe maps. Have used them extensively in NA and in the UK - very happy with the combo.
When I researched the options, the above combo was rather cheaper than the TomTom option.

If TT works then most other software will work too.
I've a few other programs I'm going to test to make sure they work but assuming they do then I'll have the folllowing installed and to use:
GPS Tuner
GPS Auto
VisualGPSce
Memory Map
Navigon Navigator

try mapopolis
mapopolis has a free demo. at 99.00 it is cheaper too.
I've been using it for a year on my harrier, and now on my 8525. Works pretty well on both.
I use an I-blue gps. sensitivity and reliability is very good, mini-usb charger is non-standard pinout though.
wes

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mapopolis has a free demo. at 99.00 it is cheaper too.
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Indeed, however, not unless you already own the software

the software is free to download. you pay for the maps only. to download the app, go to demo maps and the first step is downloading the app. the demo maps are short lived, but full function. I think you can keep downloading them over and over when when they expire.

iGuidance v3.0.1. It is excellent!
Everybody says "tom tom" because it's the most common name. After doing my research I settled on iGuidance and could not be happier. Good luck.

I'll definitely have to look at that too! My GPS unit is backordered... I'm still waiting on it ><

The problem w/ iGuidance is that you cannot fit the entire USA on a 2GB microSD. Map file is 2.5GB

lacroixdp said:
I recently purchased a GPS unit for my Hermes and am very interested in knowing what navigation programs everyone likes for traveling. I'm going to be using this in the US and occasionally in Canada - thanks for your input!
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hi i m using IGO 2006 in Germany and Turkey... its very cool Try it

Elwyn M3100 said:
If TT works then most other software will work too.
I've a few other programs I'm going to test to make sure they work but assuming they do then I'll have the folllowing installed and to use:
GPS Tuner
GPS Auto
VisualGPSce
Memory Map
Navigon Navigator
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I have GPS Tuner. Where do find the best source of maps? I have tried the OS site but once I've deleted all of the surround and extra graphics, you're left with a blurry image. google and multimap down't have sufficient detail for "off road".

best gps software and bt gps receiver...

Hey guys,
I want to buy some gps software for my dopod 838pro and a bluetooth gps receiver. I was wondering what ones work best with your hermes devices and what problems arise when using them.
I was looking at the papago software and it seems pretty good. If there is anyone here using it I would like to know your feedback on how it performs and also what kind of gps reciever you are using.
Thanks for your time and input
oh I am also in Australia..I don't know if that makes much difference or not
Cheers

I suggest IBlue 737 with the latest MTK chipset, it has nice auto on/off feature an 25 hours of battery life. another more expensive option is the Garmin Gps10X (the new Sirf3 model only, the old one is crap)
Software that i use:
Garmin Que + Franson GPSGate
OZI Explorer
IGO
TomTom

sorry to threadjack.
but regarding the IBlue 737, will it or does it need anything else other then my 8525 to work?
I have google maps on the 8525. will it work with that alone or do I have to add something else?
Once again sorry to threadjack but I think it fits into the OP's questions.
if needed delete this and I'll make a new thread.

google map is good with any GPS. (just nmake sure you have unlimited data) else it could be expensive.

ive used iGuidance 4 and iGO my way plus 2006 with BT-Q818
GUI:
iGO rocks.. smooth.. and really nice...
iGuidance .. just plain and dull.. gps tracking not smooth as iGO is.
what i really like about iGuidance though is the TTS feature, and it tells you which side the destination is.. iGO does not..
if the features i liked in iGuidance would just be integrated in iGO, ill get it in a heartbeat.

Fantastic!
and yes I have the unlimited data plan, had it for a long time. I used to have a smt 5600 before the 8525.
one more question... will it also work with the yahoo go 2.0?
thanks guys, one more thing to spend money on

yes, it will work with yahoo go 2.0. i use one myself(live in UK). make sure u have a data package though.(unlimited would be the best). i use t-mobile wnw £7.50 and a BT gps.its amazing what you can do with this phone.i love it

The thread jacking is ok its all relevant
So any other suggestions with people who have the papago software at all?
And does anyone have any other gps receivers?
Cheers

My favorite GPS sw is TomTom, great features, easy to use and no bugs. I use it with a earthmate bt-20. Takes up 1gb of space but worth it. Tomtom automatically connects to my BT receiver, responds quickly and has nice smooth 3d graphics.
My next favorite is MSN streets. It is easy to use and has the most up to date maps of my area.
I really dont care for Google maps unless I'm in a G network. If you dont have internet reception which is often the case when you travel then Google maps is completely useless.
The Earthmate BT-20 receiver seems to work ok but it is the only one I have tried. Its a ugly yellow, blue, and black 2"x3.5" plastic box. I look forward to the day when GPS is built in.

im in aussie town too, tomtom 6 (soon 7) on the hermes with some bluetooth gps that i got off ebay works wonders.
also has no issues running on prophet (my wifes phone) and my now retired magician.
microsoft streets was good when running in offline mode however it looks like they dont support australia anymore with the only map set available being a few years old.

Thanks guys for the advice
Seems like tomtom might be the go..its what I've been hearing as being the best out there.
I think I will just get a gps receiver off ebay too
Cheers

I might as well throw in my .02 as well hehe
I'm in Australia and using Tomtom 6 with a Globalsat BT receiver and it works perfectly
Good luck with your decision

naughty said:
I suggest IBlue 737 with the latest MTK chipset, it has nice auto on/off feature an 25 hours of battery life. another more expensive option is the Garmin Gps10X (the new Sirf3 model only, the old one is crap)
Software that i use:
Garmin Que + Franson GPSGate
OZI Explorer
IGO
TomTom
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i have the garmin GPS 10x and i get a weird error - ive only had it a week, long story short sometimes it wont turn on. --- how do you tell which model you have?
when it works, its awesome. tells you which turns to make, has a "recalculate" feature, good maps with a lot of detail
how do you connect it to google maps? i did it one time but haven't been able to do it since! would like to run it simulatneous with garmin XT the software that comes with it, google in satellite mode so you see from the sky where you travel to and hear from the garmin software which way to turn, would be pretty neat
i get confused which settings need to be put to which com port? i tried to add it in blue tooth and set up COM port 0 in there, and then go intot he GPS external setting (WM6) and set up both hardware and program port to 0 as well. cant get it to work alongside garmin XT software

Microsoft was offering a BT Pharos GPS for about $70 for PocketPC devices awhile back, not sure if they still are.
I got one and it works very well. The only difference between this and the typical Pharos offering is that it doesn't come with any software. Using it with Livesearch works perfectly -- the only thing Livesearch is lacking is vocal turn-by-turn directions and automatic trip recalculation. But of course you're not limited to just using livesearch with the GPS anyway.
Looks like it is still available:
http://www.amazon.com/Pharos-Blueto...6?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1187064734&sr=8-3

Nokia Smart2GO.. It's tomtom but for free worldwide. (with some very minor limits/payable extras)
Have a search for the word nokia and posts by me and youll find some info about it in one of the hundreds of other gps threads around the hermes

thank you for your info. I am thinking of getting a bt gps receiver with software

my favourite is Navigon (you can tinker soo nicely with all the settings 'under the hood' ).
Dunno whether Navigon has a AU map at all, but they sell under a different name in the USA.
I would recommend any sirfIII GPS antenna with a good review in one of the navigation fora. I am using a cheap Mainnav that is OK.(great reception even behind metal coated car windows)

Wait for a Natural Disaster!!
I use TomTom 6 with a Nokia Bluetooth GPS reciever.. i got it for 29.99 from Fry's!!!
I live in central texas and when Katrina was on its way to New Orleans fries had CRAZY discounts on GPS units, Maglites, Waterproof cases for pdas.. basicly almost anything that can be used for "survival" so i grabbed a bunch of other stuff... now that Hurricane Dean is on its way i'm pretty sure they'll have discounts again... Time to hit up Fry's!!

lol its "natural disaster" sales at frys...for every hurricane that comes along we drop the prices by 20%
Cheers

WM5, iGuidance 3.x, i.Trek M5+
Never a hiccup.

GPS application for Android?

Ok, I am still waiting for HTC desire to come to my door. At the moment I am just wondering what GPS application available for Android (I mean like Garmin or Tomtom thing??) As I understand both Garmin and Tomtom are still unavailable. I know the phone should come with Google map? As I understand it google map require internet connection not just GPS? the thing is I dont have internet connection with my phone plan. I only use wifi or hotspot. So I need GPS application that can work just by using the built-in GPS? Besides the internet package here downunder in Aussie is pretty limited...too low capacity. I wish they have unlimited connection.

best ones are Copilot and Navigon

JaykaySLO said:
best ones are Copilot and Navigon
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Navigon looks cool, but is the android version available yet? I have been to their site but only have for iphone?? Dont know how much is it including Australian Map??

kuailan said:
Navigon looks cool, but is the android version available yet? I have been to their site but only have for iphone?? Dont know how much is it including Australian Map??
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Navigon is available in the market, as is CoPilot and a few others. I prefer CoPilot of those two but am really waiting for Sygic's Aura, which looks awesome.

In China, KLD（凯立德） and Gaode（高德） have published NAV software based on android OS, and it run smoothly.

Aura is very nice indeed, but it wont be available soon.
I asked this to Sygic and they said that iPhone version will be available FIRST.
Then Android ...
Now you can wait for a year or two
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Navigon is available in the market, as is CoPilot and a few others. I prefer CoPilot of those two but am really waiting for Sygic's Aura, which looks awesome.
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Navigon
The trial version works great.
Once activated with a bought key it stops working.
Wierd.

I have CoPilot and Sygic on my Desire and both work fine.
I was not so impressed with Navigon.
I have iGO on my diamond and it beats all three of them qua quality, but must say Aura looks good.

i've just finished to install Igo Amigo for my Desire, and is working so good . For Europe (for me, I've been in many countries) is the best...for America, i think another one like tomtom you should choose.

If anyone is planning on using the hacked-to-work-outside-US Google navigation ("Maps brut"), I wouldn't bother. I've used it and decided it was no replacement for a proper paid GPS application. Turn by turn voice cues are erratic and often late or not-present, and for some reason the next road to be taken is always "unknown". I missed turns twice because of the lack of cues.
I used Google navigation for a 2 1/2 hour journey, in that time the phone went from 2/3 battery to severe battery warnings and red indicator. This was with an old, non-official car charger plugged in! I strongly suspect that the frequency of the screen update and the use of 3G are probably culprits, not to mention the frequent re-routing as I missed turns.
My old WinMo phone used to run CoPilot 7 and would do substantially better with no in-car charging.
What is the battery life like with the £20 CoPilot? Is a proper in-car charger a must for journeys > 3h?

I had some issues on copilot 7 WM with mapping. The maps were quite old and sometimes the routing was very odd. On test routes where I knew where I was going it would sometimes take me off in what I knew to be a longer way round by far. I'm sure there will be much newer maps on version 8.
The Navigon I find is very good but only annoying thing I find is landscape view. Between the bars on the software and the taskbar on the handset, the map only uses about half the available screen which is disappointing.
If anyone knows if it is possible to view more fullscreen please correct me.

Can anyone recommend Android nav software for cycling?
CoPilot appears to have a cycling option, Navigon not.

fergusstrachan said:
Can anyone recommend Android nav software for cycling?
CoPilot appears to have a cycling option, Navigon not.
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I'm not a cyclist, but shouldn't ANY of them do as long as you stick to the roads? I don't know of any that have off-road capability...

Yeah, I COULD follow the roads they suggest, but I don't fancy cycling on motorways/highways.
Don't want off-road, just want small quieter roads...

fergusstrachan said:
Yeah, I COULD follow the roads they suggest, but I don't fancy cycling on motorways/highways.
Don't want off-road, just want small quieter roads...
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I'm pretty sure you can tell CoPilot to ignore certain roads...

Co-pilot has a walking and a cycling mode. Haven't tried them out yet though.

Tom Tom release?
TomTom 6 om my Diamond was phenomenal, and was by far the most customisable for me. (downloading voices, maps, POI, speed cams etc). I know that TomTom are releasing a ver for Android soon, but does anyone know what the current developments are? Just waiting on my DESIRE now, and am ready to go!! If not anytime soon, I might have to settle with CoPilot, as it has Australia Maps, and South Africa maps (worldcup). How good is CoPilot is though Australia? Anyone know? And do I need an Internet connection to run it?

the best I tried so far and worked brilliantly even in Cyprus is sygic 10 mobile maps!

Navigon gets my vote.
Clear maps, works smooth.

I really like Navigon, look cool...except dont think there is NO map for Australia? Can anyone suggest anything that has Australian map?? I also want something that does not need internet connection?? (Google map is free but need internet) just plain GPS.

Best GPS Software For The HD2

I will not be testing any free GPS Navigation software.
I will begin testing the following GPS Navigation Software for Windows Phone tonight.
I will be posting reviews for the major ones with tips to tweak the settings to get most out of your Windows Phone.
I will also be testing the Radio Firmwares and see which ones play nice.
Start off with
Garmin Mobile XT
TomTom
Navigon
Which other ones should I test?

Try CoPilot Live
I have CoPilot Live 8 installed on my HD2. It picked up the GPS receiver with no work on my part. Accuracy and speed seem good. It did not lag behind my actual location. I am curious about the quality of routes calculations versus some of the other programs. That's a software issue, not a GPS or HD2 issue.

I find that Garmin has a pretty bad lag on my hd2 with the stock class 2 card. IGO also has a lag but it's not so bad.

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I find that Garmin has a pretty bad lag on my hd2 with the stock class 2 card. IGO also has a lag but it's not so bad.
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Again, Explain the lag on the HD2, What part is lagging in Garmin when it starts up, Re-Calculating?
I experience no lag at all in Garmin Mobile XT 5.00.20
What rom are you using? Which Radio?

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Again, Explain the lag on the HD2, What part is lagging in Garmin when it starts up, Re-Calculating?
I experience no lag at all in Garmin Mobile XT 5.00.20
What rom are you using? Which Radio?
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I'm using an energy rom with 2.10 radio. What maps are you using? I'm using the 2011 maps which I had on my portable car garmin gps. Lag meaning as I drive past one street it'll take a second to actually show on the unit that i'm passing that particular street.

IGO8
I've been using IGO 8 for about 2 months now.
i had some problems initially getting it to pick up
on my gps receiver. I opened up google maps let that get
a fix on my location then opened up IGO8, fixed the problems.
i like this software (aside from no landscape)
but haven't tried any of the other ones so
i'd be interested in how it will stack up against the rest

I would also like to see CoPilot tested if you can. I tried the android version and I keeps getting a location half a block away while google maps reports my location correctly. I'd like to see your experience with it since it's a very cool looking program and has spoken street names.
The Garmin mobile xt runs beautifully on my hd2, I ran it side by side with my old 855 and they were step by step. Often tbe hd2 locks on to satellites quicker due to the agps. It ran so well I gave the 855 to my sister

I own TomTom 7, and just installed it today after purchasing the HD2 yesterday. Picked up the internal GPS perfectly fine without adjusting any settings. Runs very smoothly, trip calculations are fast, and it looks awesome on that big screen. Only thing I am concerned about is heat from sitting on my windshield mount in the sun, as I've read that some folks have had issues with the phone resetting when it gets hot.
I'll be interested to read anything else that your testing might come across.

the best one is NDrive
I use NDrive on my hd2 with no problems.
I tried many versions, but the only that works for me is:
NDrive ver.: 3.5.25 (856) DI
maps ver.: v.2.13
i'm new user and can't post links(remove spaces)
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if anyone tried newer versions please let us know.

Viciouse0216 said:
IGO8
I've been using IGO 8 for about 2 months now.
i had some problems initially getting it to pick up
on my gps receiver. I opened up google maps let that get
a fix on my location then opened up IGO8, fixed the problems.
i like this software (aside from no landscape)
but haven't tried any of the other ones so
i'd be interested in how it will stack up against the rest
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You should really take a look at my sticky which can be found in my sig. Not only would you have landscape but it'd look crystal clear.

Double. Sorry

supavnick said:
I use NDrive on my hd2 with no problems.
I tried many versions, but the only that works for me is:
NDrive ver.: 3.5.25 (856) DI
maps ver.: v.2.13
i'm new user and can't post links(remove spaces)
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Not only are you new and can't post links, but you also might want to take a crash course on the forum rules. Posting links to warez sites is not allowed.
I removed the link in your post. In the future, please do not post such links.
-DH

I'm currently testing Garmin & TomTom
I will update with screenshots and maybe a video soon.
If anyone needs their GPS software to AutoRotate let me know.
It's an easy fix and does not require installing yet another application on your phone. Regisry tweak packaged in a cab.
Have a link at my other post about Garmin Auto Rotate and you will see.
The same can be done for most programs not just GPS Navigation.

Primo all the way
The best IMHO for HD2 is Primo. Which is next version from iGo8. I use Primo 1.1 with 800x480 data. Works like a charm, including TTS.

Suprisingly Good...
I was on a trip last week and realized I needed to find the route to a hotel from the airport. Since I didn't have a GPS device, I went into Bing and had it calculate my route. It gave me turn x turn voice navigation and I was able to get to the hotel with no issues. It was clear, direct and fast. It gave me plenty of warning when my next exit or turn was coming up based on my position.
Since I don't use Garmin or other GPS specific devices, I don't have much to compare it to but since this was free, no worries!

cyanprinter said:
I own TomTom 7, and just installed it today after purchasing the HD2 yesterday. Picked up the internal GPS perfectly fine without adjusting any settings. Runs very smoothly, trip calculations are fast, and it looks awesome on that big screen. Only thing I am concerned about is heat from sitting on my windshield mount in the sun, as I've read that some folks have had issues with the phone resetting when it gets hot.
I'll be interested to read anything else that your testing might come across.
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I use TomTom too - no probs here and i dont have any heat. The only thing with TomTom is that the company has ceased to update the navcore for win mob devices so the nice stuff that is available on the dedicated TomTom devices isnt available on PDA eg:street name voice.

cyanprinter said:
I own TomTom 7, and just installed it today after purchasing the HD2 yesterday.
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Where did you get TomTom v7? I just checked TomTom's site and the only mobile navigation I see is for the iPhone.

TomTom
Rambler358 said:
Where did you get TomTom v7? I just checked TomTom's site and the only mobile navigation I see is for the iPhone.
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Just do a search in TomTom website for TomTom Navigator. That's how I get the latest TomTom Navigator. I believe its version 7.917 if I am not mistaken. Also, someone in the forum posted that cab file somewhere here. Just do a search.

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Just do a search in TomTom website for TomTom Navigator. That's how I get the latest TomTom Navigator. I believe its version 7.917 if I am not mistaken.
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Any chance you've got a link? I still couldn't locate it on TomTom's site.
Also, someone in the forum posted that cab file somewhere here. Just do a search.
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I don't think searching is necessary, as it's probably removed if a cab file was linked to (piracy).

Have you tried one of the air vent mounts that are available? They are all over e-bay. That would keep the HD2 out of the direct sunlight. I don't know which vent mount to suggest because someone gave me mine, and it doesn't have any manufacturer's markings on it.

As of 9-7-10 is CoPilot the only affordable GPS option now for USA Hd2 owners? =(

I searched the forum and youtube and found GPS apps that used to be available such as:
- Garmin XT (Garmin took this away due to their Garmin phone)
- Igo8 (United states version a.k.a. Oncourse Navigator not available)
- TomTom (Currently $136... quite greedy and for that price I will just buy a stinking GPS unit )
- Navigon (Currently $89... not as greedy as TomTom but I would still just buy a GPS unit for this price)
- Bing (Great option for free but I need something that runs without a data connection)
I want a GPS application I can use without a data connection in case I take trips outside of T-mobiles network. Is CoPilot the only option available?
If it is... could anyone give me their current thoughts on it since they added the "active traffic" update just a few days ago?
- Does CoPilot speak the street names or does it just say "turn left"?
- Are the maps current or do you find yourself with outdated maps?
- Is the Active Traffic helpful and up to date?
- Is it worth the $30 for the app or should I just end up buying a $70 GPS unit off of Amazon?

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- Igo8 (United states version a.k.a. Oncourse Navigator not available)
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Uh, just get the Igo8 world version and delete the maps you don't want. Go to your favorite P2P source, get that, and search the threads here for the proper adjustment to the system file.
I installed it today and even used it. The only thing that it doesn't do is speak the street names.

garmin mobile xt is something i would like to get a legitimate copy of, can anyone confirm that the garmin part number 010-10841-00 is the one that will install on windows mobile?
I see there are still a few retailer online with this item in stock

not that i recommend it at all, and it definitely shouldnt be done, it's pretty easy to find cracked software
but that's a terrible thing to do, and i for one have never done it.

As you mention, there are good free ones now like Bing, I would guess the next version of Google Maps, an app called Waze, etc. As you mention though, they all require data.
I haven't tried the paid ones, but the Copilot sure has a much better price than any of the others. I've seen some good reviews of it, including here on XDA. (Do a search for Copilot on XDA.) So, if you want data-free GPS, that might be a good option.
Notice-that $30 price for Copilot is the US version. (I forget if it includes Canada and/or Mexico. You pay extra (with all the commercial PDA apps) for each extra map you buy. So, if you are going somewhere not included in your package, you had better find out how much it would cost extra to buy the map for that country, continent, etc. Or buy the package for that other country, not the US one.
It almost seems that some here are kind of recommending (although not overtly) searching for illegally cracked versions online. I think it a better idea, if Copilot suits your needs, to buy from them. That sends a message to all--that those who price more reasonably, will get more sales. (Whereas if one is thinking-"I'll just steal the product I want", what message does that send? (In fact, the companies that charge a higher price, probably justify it, on the grounds that so many are stealing the product, that they have to charge more to the few who buy, in order to make ends meet.)
ap3604 said:
I searched the forum and youtube and found GPS apps that used to be available such as:
- Garmin XT (Garmin took this away due to their Garmin phone)
- Igo8 (United states version a.k.a. Oncourse Navigator not available)
- TomTom (Currently $136... quite greedy and for that price I will just buy a stinking GPS unit )
- Navigon (Currently $89... not as greedy as TomTom but I would still just buy a GPS unit for this price)
- Bing (Great option for free but I need something that runs without a data connection)
I want a GPS application I can use without a data connection in case I take trips outside of T-mobiles network. Is CoPilot the only option available?
If it is... could anyone give me their current thoughts on it since they added the "active traffic" update just a few days ago?
- Does CoPilot speak the street names or does it just say "turn left"?
- Are the maps current or do you find yourself with outdated maps?
- Is the Active Traffic helpful and up to date?
- Is it worth the $30 for the app or should I just end up buying a $70 GPS unit off of Amazon?
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CoPilot is rubbish, hands down the worst sat-nav app I've used on any phone. I would say it's not even worth having! Totally inaccurate route calculations. The graphics are nice and the voice just says turn left, turn right, continue etc if I recall correctly. It's been 6 months since I used it.

sunking101 said:
CoPilot is rubbish, hands down the worst sat-nav app I've used on any phone. I would say it's not even worth having! Totally inaccurate route calculations. The graphics are nice and the voice just says turn left, turn right, continue etc if I recall correctly. It's been 6 months since I used it.
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Sorry I must disagree. I've had in car installations in my vehicles (two) for almost ten years. I've used Toyota and VDO packages and currently have Pioneer and VW satnavs in my vehicles. I tried CoPilot on my HD2 as an experiment six months ago and found it superior to all of these kits.
For long complex journeys I now use my CoPilot with the in car Pioneer or VW satnavs as a back up.
My CoPilot voice not only gives directions beyond 'left/right' but also includes street names. It also covers traffic info and speed limits on the screen. Shows the correct lanes on motorways etc and even displays on screen the notice boards that you can see.
Not perfect but very good value for money.
By the way I've only used it in the UK and I've no vested interests in CoPilot.

Are we talking strictly WinMo in this discussion? If not, try IGO Motonav for android. I used IGO for windows mobile and have been using Motonav for android. They share .fbl map files.

ExAviator said:
Sorry I must disagree. My CoPilot voice not only gives directions beyond 'left/right' but also includes street names. It also covers traffic info and speed limits on the screen. Shows the correct lanes on motorways etc and even displays on screen the notice boards that you can see.
Not perfect but very good value for money. By the way I've only used it in the UK and I've no vested interests in CoPilot.
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Completely agree! CoPilot 8 is an excellent software. I bought the European maps and use it regularly in the UK. Also used it in France, Portugal, Spain, Slovakia and the Czech Republic without a problem. Over the years I had Tom Tom (stand-alone & in WM phone) and I cannot compare both either on competence or on price. In my opinion, as far as WM software goes, CoPilot is well above the rest.

I have to say I really like Copilot Live 8... I've used iGuidance in the past and also TomTom 7, but when you add price & function "I" think that CP8 is pound-for-pound one of the best sat navs available on the HD2.

You can use Bing navigation. (turn-by-turn)