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how to get gps on wing like dash ?

I find it funny that the dash is able to get the gps working on google maps and when it comes to the wing (MUMZZZ)the word.!
can someone help me if there is a logical answer and solution to my dilemma ...........

this is wrong in sooooooooo many ways. first, neither the dash (HTC excalibur) nor the wing (HTC Herald/Atlas) have built-in GPS.
Google maps uses data, does it not? So theoretically, anywhere you have a data connection, you can use google maps.
If by gps you mean an external gps, it's only a matter of tethering your gps to your phone, which is relatively self-explanatory

ok
so how is the dash able to track location on google maps also searches for gps and is successful . unless a buddy of mine has a special dash ..

i believe google just implemented a new service that uses cellphone tower triangulation to determine an approximate location. does it show your friends location as a dot or a dot over a larger, lighter colored dot?

I was going to post this yesterday, but didnt get a chance to..
GPS on the wing is NOT possible, UNLESS using a gps device.
THOUGH, google maps (the newest version) has a way of attempting to find your location without GPS. It uses cell phone towers to triangulate your posistion. This is not as accurate as GPS though, it can be anywhere dead on your posistion, or it could be 1500 meters off. it just depends on the amount of cell coverage in the area.

i dont know
if their using triangulation off of towers to get a position how com it doesn't work on my wing ? I have the new version of gmaps there has to be a way to implement a gps program into the wing come on people lets put our heads together something good has to come out off this

rosco32 said:
if their using triangulation off of towers to get a position how com it doesn't work on my wing ? I have the new version of gmaps there has to be a way to implement a gps program into the wing come on people lets put our heads together something good has to come out off this
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ofcourse you can "implement a gps program" just connect teh wing to a gps-mouse und use one of these:
- tomtom
- mn
- navigator
- destinator
- route66

rosco32 said:
if their using triangulation off of towers to get a position how com it doesn't work on my wing ? I have the new version of gmaps there has to be a way to implement a gps program into the wing come on people lets put our heads together something good has to come out off this
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Did you hit 0 (zero) ?

GPS
fzzyrn said:
this is wrong in sooooooooo many ways. first, neither the dash (HTC excalibur) nor the wing (HTC Herald/Atlas) have built-in GPS.
Google maps uses data, does it not? So theoretically, anywhere you have a data connection, you can use google maps.
If by gps you mean an external gps, it's only a matter of tethering your gps to your phone, which is relatively self-explanatory
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I got a question for you may be stupid but hey gotta start somewhere... I hae a Garmin and wanted to know how to "tether" my garmin to my wing for Gmaps? Can you help me out?

HP Ipaq 614 GPS don´t Work.

Hello!
I have a Ipaq 614C and I have a problem. When i install the TomTom i can't connect to the GPS. In the HP asset's it appear GPS: Present but in the status appear disable.
Anyone can help me.
Thanks.
John

Check in TOMTOM which GPS com port it's using. Then change to same port
as set in Settngs->Systems-> External GPS -> Programs com port.
I dont use Tomtom myself but I've used so far Google Maps and NAv4All and it works fine without any changes.
Good luck.

On my ipaq 614, the default com port for the gps is port number 6. And it works fine with that.

im also having some GPS difficulties with 614c: i already tried it with igo8, tomtom navigator and latest google maps. it finds satellites very slowly and rarely, mostly never. anyone got an idea?
t

tibyke said:
im also having some GPS difficulties with 614c: i already tried it with igo8, tomtom navigator and latest google maps. it finds satellites very slowly and rarely, mostly never. anyone got an idea?
t
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did u try always out of the house in a open space?
most of the ppl don't know that u don't have GPS signal in close space.
second of all, first download with quick gps latest infos, after that start igo, it will be more quicker ...
chrees.

klaxhu said:
did u try always out of the house in a open space?
most of the ppl don't know that u don't have GPS signal in close space.
second of all, first download with quick gps latest infos, after that start igo, it will be more quicker ...
chrees.
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of course i tried it in open air, and at night on the balcony with no success. i will try quick GPS, thanks for your advice!
t

quick gps?
klaxhu said:
did u try always out of the house in a open space?
most of the ppl don't know that u don't have GPS signal in close space.
second of all, first download with quick gps latest infos, after that start igo, it will be more quicker ...
chrees.
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Hi all, mine did not come with any quick GPS installed, the older (tomtom related) version from the 6915 does not work on that device any longer, where did you get quick gps? or is it hidden somewhere..? Since there is no navi software installed, only google maps..
txs

From my personal experience with it, it took absolutely FOREVER to connect to a satellite the very first time I tried. Took about 7 "cannot find a signal" messages before I finally snagged one.
After that, it was ~20 seconds to connect every time.
I really dont know what the deal was, but after that initial connection it seemed perfectly fine.
So my advice is, try again for a little while.

I also have problems with GPS on HP 614c. But the problem probably not in the chip, and in programs as Oziexplorer and Google Navigator satellites catch and precisely defines a site, and Navitel works through time and that in a minute satellites as though fade and data cease to be updated, Garmin in general satellites does not see. Firmware update has not helped. Anybody has ideas?
p.s. sorry for my english

With program Navitel has understood, the reason was in program MultyDID, it blocked access to keyboards and deformed a signal from satellites, Garmin does not function.

rainerrabe said:
Hi all, mine did not come with any quick GPS installed, the older (tomtom related) version from the 6915 does not work on that device any longer, where did you get quick gps? or is it hidden somewhere..? Since there is no navi software installed, only google maps..
txs
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http://rapidshare.com/files/125147036/IPAQ_600_GPS_Quick.zip.html
ENJOY

Hi
I've had the same problem with iGO8. You have to change the sys file in the iGO directory on the storage card. Here what I have there:
[folders]
app="%SDCARD%/iGO8"
[interface]
maxzoom2d=6000000
show_exit=1
[gps]
port=6
baud=57600
set_messages=0
[timezone]
sync_os_timezone=0
reset_os_timezone=0

EREZYAD said:
http://rapidshare.com/files/125147036/IPAQ_600_GPS_Quick.zip.html
ENJOY
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Could you upload this GPS quick to the forums?.. its not available @ rapid..
Thx

DSwarP said:
From my personal experience with it, it took absolutely FOREVER to connect to a satellite the very first time I tried. Took about 7 "cannot find a signal" messages before I finally snagged one.
After that, it was ~20 seconds to connect every time.
I really dont know what the deal was, but after that initial connection it seemed perfectly fine.
So my advice is, try again for a little while.
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I agree with all these comments and the above regarding open space. GPS does indeed require a clear view of the sky... but one thing not so often said is that GPS needs a clear view of the NORTHERN sky... most of the GPS satellites are in a geostationary orbit above northern part of the planet.
To the guy who has tried leaving the phone on the balcony... I suspect your balcony is south facing (very nice).
I have also found that the longer it is since your last fix, the longer it will take to get a fix. GPS satellites only broadcast their "here I am" messages every 30 seconds and it is mostly down to luck whether your phone is listening for the right satellite at the right time. That's why it takes a while to obtain a GPS fix on all devices. QuickGPS and other software tries to expedite the fix by allowing the phone to calculate which satellites will be the right ones to listen out for, based on a daily positions log of the GPS satellites (called ephemera data).
GPS does work quite well on the 614c (I use tomtom 6.3 and Google Maps, both extensively)... but it does often take a long time to get a fix - sometimes even 10 minutes.

hipppo said:
I agree with all these comments and the above regarding open space. GPS does indeed require a clear view of the sky... but one thing not so often said is that GPS needs a clear view of the NORTHERN sky... most of the GPS satellites are in a geostationary orbit above northern part of the planet.
To the guy who has tried leaving the phone on the balcony... I suspect your balcony is south facing (very nice).
I have also found that the longer it is since your last fix, the longer it will take to get a fix. GPS satellites only broadcast their "here I am" messages every 30 seconds and it is mostly down to luck whether your phone is listening for the right satellite at the right time. That's why it takes a while to obtain a GPS fix on all devices. QuickGPS and other software tries to expedite the fix by allowing the phone to calculate which satellites will be the right ones to listen out for, based on a daily positions log of the GPS satellites (called ephemera data).
GPS does work quite well on the 614c (I use tomtom 6.3 and Google Maps, both extensively)... but it does often take a long time to get a fix - sometimes even 10 minutes.
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Very nice. I woud've never thought about that. However, i think geostationary orbit is when the satelite goes around the equator with the same angular speed as the rotation of the Earth. So these satelites actually go around in an orbit perpendecular to the equator. Yesterday i tested and got 2 satelites inside a room with north windows. Very cool. Do you use quick GPS. I installed it and downloaded the data for the next 7 days. I didn't notice any improvement. I use DESTINATOR 7 and Maspware GPSmeter 5.I don't really get it - who manages the data downloaded by Qgps - windows drivers or the gps software itself.

More GPS thoughts
Axlastro - the ephemeris data that QuickGPS and other programs download is nothing to do with Microsoft/Windows or with HP. It is official data on the positions and movements of the satellites in the GPS network. Provided ultimately by some government department, probably American.
If you have not noticed an improvement over a period of several days, I'm not sure why this is. This old posting might help you.
Ephemeris data is also actually transmitted by the satellites themselves. This is why, when you have recently had a fix, it is usually quite quick to get another one. Programs like QuickGPS are only therefore useful if it's been a while since your last fix.

Thanks. I googled the topic and got some detailed explanations.
http://wmexperts.com/articles/gps_vs_agps_a_quick_tutorial.html
I also found a thread that says that QUICKgps doesn't work with the ipaq.
http://mobilitytoday.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16767
So that's why i don't see improvement. However neither of the people on that forum has managet to improve their fix times. Can you tell me wich program exactly you are using?

strange. i never had problems with gps. very fast . newest firmware from hp site ,and 3 different roms,original 6.0 and 2 roms with 6.1 . Igo,garmin etc.

Some more info
Really. Which program do you use, so i can try with it too.
I spoke to HP support and they said that it depends on the GPS software if it will use the aGPS function, so we have to check if the software we use is compatable with tha Qualcomm 6820 gps chipset of the ipaq.

Install this
http://uploading.com/files/YI4IJTCC/PART1-GPS Quick.zip.html
Now update the app
Install this
http://uploading.com/files/15FMK62B/PART2-QuickGPS.CAB.html
Now update the second app but on this update you will get at 79% a fail note
Ignore it and check your GPS...
from my testes you will get a better hot fix (time )
If you are after SR or cold fix update the second app (the one that fails)
Good luck
Ps at the end it will look like this
sorry about quality of the move ,I had to upload to youtube ….so I compressed the file
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYbVnuwvluo

offline GPS for Touch 3g?

I would like to know if theres a gps program which i can use offline with the built in gps of my touch 3g. right now i use google maps which always tries to connect to the internet.
Does anyone know a well working alternative?

Check this: http://wiki.trekbuddy.net/index.php/Main_Page

offline gps?
Of course there are tens of them..
OFFROAD? ONROAD??
You do not mean Offline GPS..
You mean internet Offline GPS, I am sure..
The below are onroad ones;
TomTom, Garmin, IGO8 and many others with their own mapdatas...
Offroad ones;
GPSTuner, Trekbuddy and so goes on....
You may choose one of them depends to what city/ country you live in?

thx for answering
right now i use google maps which always tries to connect to the internet
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i wanted to ask for non-internet-based gps programs, a program which doesnt need an internet connection.
Trekbuddy is Java based but for now a bit complicated (im dumb in that topic), GPSTuner looks easier so i would go for that one for now.
I live in south Germany (near Swiss boarder) so if you can suggest another nice and easy to handle im thankful.
Btw can we use Garmin on the Touch 3g with the built-in gps?

Understood. You can use TomTom for example, which is a full navigation software. Works great! TrekBuddy is quite tricky. Just found it on the web - but did not understand it neither

I downloaded TomTom "Version 7.450.9028_repack3-qvga-black", is the Touch 3g qvga anyways? ^^"
Btw I noticed that there are no maps included, maybe you know where to find a decent one for Germany??

Qabooz said:
Btw I noticed that there are no maps included, maybe you know where to find a decent one for Germany??
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www.tomtom.com

Hello
I would suggest you to find the tomtom version 7.915.9196 (from HTC Iolite) wich works fine for the touch 3g.

I'm using mapking + Malaysia map.

thats the kind of program i mean, easy and simple.
Too bad it's maps are only for Asia, what I need is western Europe/ Germany.
thx anyways

It sounds like you have all got various form of GPS software working.
I have just got my new HTC Touch 3G on Orange UK and want to run some logging gps software.
Can you advise the corrrect settings for the GPS com port and Baud rate.
At the moment I do not seem able to talk to the GPS and the manual is not helpfull at all.
I am trying Com 4 at 4800 Baud which appears not to work..
Any suggestions ?
Thankyou
Phil-w

phil-w said:
It sounds like you have all got various form of GPS software working.
I have just got my new HTC Touch 3G on Orange UK and want to run some logging gps software.
Can you advise the corrrect settings for the GPS com port and Baud rate.
At the moment I do not seem able to talk to the GPS and the manual is not helpfull at all.
I am trying Com 4 at 4800 Baud which appears not to work..
Any suggestions ?
Thankyou
Phil-w
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What software are you using for your GPS? You need to have a software( pre installed when you bought your HTC 3G or bought separately)
I am using Garmin Mobile XT which came with my unit when I bought it.
Then you have to buy maps too, I have Thailand Map (also pre installed)
and Philippines map, downloaded free from website.

phil-w said:
It sounds like you have all got various form of GPS software working.
I have just got my new HTC Touch 3G on Orange UK and want to run some logging gps software.
Can you advise the corrrect settings for the GPS com port and Baud rate.
At the moment I do not seem able to talk to the GPS and the manual is not helpfull at all.
I am trying Com 4 at 4800 Baud which appears not to work..
Any suggestions ?
Thankyou
Phil-w
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Im using the same like you, Com 4 and 4800.
I use google maps and my GPS works fine.
Dont underaestimate the "do it outside" rule, inside a room, even in front of the window i wouldnt ever get a gps signal, once outside it works well and fast.

phil-w said:
want to run some logging gps software.
Can you advise the corrrect settings for the GPS com port and Baud rate.
At the moment I do not seem able to talk to the GPS and the manual is not helpfull at all.
I am trying Com 4 at 4800 Baud which appears not to work..
Any suggestions ?
Thankyou
Phil-w
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1. GPS Logging Software: GPS Cycle Computer (freeware)
2. COM and BAUD are correct - run QuickGPS before! This will download some basic information via your GSM-Cells about where you are more or less. Then the GPS Signal will be found even quicker.

phil-w said:
It sounds like you have all got various form of GPS software working.
I have just got my new HTC Touch 3G on Orange UK and want to run some logging gps software.
Can you advise the corrrect settings for the GPS com port and Baud rate.
At the moment I do not seem able to talk to the GPS and the manual is not helpfull at all.
I am trying Com 4 at 4800 Baud which appears not to work..
Any suggestions ?
Thankyou
Phil-w
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Try COM 4 at 57600 Baud.
Works for IGo 8 and Navigon 7.4

I use McGuider 2009. very accurate and a quick fix.

run QuickGPS before! This will download some basic information via your GSM-Cells about where you are more or less.
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gsm cells? is this for free or do you pay?
<-- have a prepaid card, dont want to risk

No Internet mapping software
Try terracrosser.com
You download google or yahoo maps to your PC, which then creates the map file. Transfer this to your PCC and away you go . . .

[Q] Google Maps with GPS

hi everyone ! can anyone tell me how i can use Google Maps with Gps technology ?? when i select "Use GPS" it says "Network Unavailable"

You're connected to the Internet?

An activated GPRS, EDGE or UMTS is necessary.

sharax said:
You're connected to the Internet?
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no i'm not !
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An activated GPRS, EDGE or UMTS is necessary.
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you mean if i want to browse maps with gps, i have to connect to the internet ??

Oh yes the maps are not on your device they are downloaded!!

Google Maps gets your location from the GPS sensor, but then has to go online to download the actual map data for that area.

so if the map of the area we are in, was downloaded befor then i think there wont be any problem ! i think it would be just like the quick gps software in diamond ! am i right ?

I think that should be a way of download the map and use it offline. Some cracker should make it easy

diogoperas said:
I think that should be a way of download the map and use it offline. Some cracker should make it easy
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hehe, i tried 5 different apps and currently use gpsVP /w cached Gmaps imgs
pretty good for a free app, altho not totally easy to set up as there is no info...
since there is no maps for japan that i know of, never tried a commercial product, then again i prefer gmaps and my brain for navigation

diogoperas said:
I think that should be a way of download the map and use it offline. Some cracker should make it easy
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in the last few versions of gmaps just install it onto the storage card and then you can just save whats in the applicationdata\googlemaps folder and use that offline

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An activated GPRS, EDGE or UMTS is necessary.
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Can also be Wifi.

hey everybody, first post here....
i read that i should not start new posts if theres one going already.
I got my diamond about a month ago, its an alltel cdma diamond with original ROM, no registry tweaks, pretty much stock.
the GPS is being finicky. ive tried atleast 10-15 different GPS applications (all freeware or trials) and they are alway hit or miss. sometimes i get a 6-12 sat lock in seconds, even indoors... but sometimes i cant lock on outside even after 15min or more (even if i had a lock on less then 8hrs earlier). Ive been trying to find a pattern to why it sometimes works (certain settings, maybe after a resets, quick gps, etc)
side note, i used the G-Watch app while in poland where i have no phone coverage. it worked perfectly everytime i turned it on with almost instant lockon. but back in florida every program i try sometimes works and sometimes doesnt, even if i turned the phone to airplane mode.
question 1- is this considered normal for the alltel diamond
question 2- does the software that costs money (ie tomtom) work any better/more consistently
question 3 - could there be something wrong with my phone
question 4 - any ideas how to make it more stable
thanx for the help

also, on some of the gps programs, it will say i have found up to 8 or so sats, but wont lock onto any of them...
thanx again

gps wont find anything

so I bought a htc hd2 using it to type this, however gps wont lock (and kb Really is bad lol) im on o2
any ideas..

Re gps won't find anything
Hi,
A couple of questions. What software are you using? (like Google Maps). You say you can't get a lock, are you able to access any satellite? Have you selected Google Maps Use GPS Option. Have you enabled QuickGPS (Start/Tools/QuickGPS). There is a setting there to let you download Satellite data using your PC connection during Activesync which might help you if you have data issues.
Now, silly question, are you indoors or outdoors when you are trying to get a fix?. Im not always able to get a satellite fix from my living room).
Regards.

Re: gps won't find anything
Hi,
A couple of questions. What software are you using? (like Google Maps). You say you can't get a lock, are you able to access any satellite? Have you selected Google Maps Use GPS Option. Have you enabled QuickGPS (Start/Tools/QuickGPS). There is a setting there to let you download Satellite data using your PC connection during Activesync which might help you if you have data issues.
Now, silly question, are you indoors or outdoors when you are trying to get a fix?. Im not always able to get a satellite fix from my living room).
Regards.

sorry took so long to reply (keyboard really has issues ... or maybe i have the issues and just cant use it) so i came to pc to reply.
i was indoors at the time (trying to show my gf how great my phone is and shes with her iphone getting a gps location in seconds) so i was indoors , i have tried outside however and it dont seem to work, i had the same (and still do) with my xda ignito and just give up on it , but this is a new phone and i just want to be able to sit in my house and go oooh phone says im here haha.
i used quickgps however that has not helped

LOL, knowing that you couldn't get it working on your other phone might have helped in your original posting . Have you talked to O2?

gps does not care about the carrier...
BTW: What the iphone does (and your phone can do too) is the self positining using the google api. that works over the cellular network, using a table of positions where the antennas are lokated and not gps!
GPS indoors is not possible with a antenna like the HD2 or the Iphone has, aslong as you live in a "normal house" and not in some weird mobile home ect...
If it cant get a fix using google maps or tomtom outside of your house within 2minutes of not moving somewhere on the street, or the gps tuner did not even find one satellite, think of hard-resetting your phone and then try again.
if you sill can find anything your antenna might be broken so you need to return your phone to warrenty and get a new one, or yours fixed!
greetz

Intereseting, I've never actually seen a phone using nagigation software without data services from a carrier. I must live a really sheltered life. Good luck.

Usually, every GPS phone has trouble locking from inside houses, with the exception of when you are standing next to a window sometimes. My HD2 however locks in seconds when outside.
I would suggest running QuickGPS (or something along those lines) from Start->Tools, it updates the locations of the satellites so the GPS takes less to locate them when locking.
All the best,
shpatar.

cMMY69 said:
Intereseting, I've never actually seen a phone using nagigation software without data services from a carrier. I must live a really sheltered life. Good luck.
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what are you talking about? tomtom, garmin etc. never use the carrier to get a fixed gps position. thats why you call it gps, because it uses it and gps is not run by any phone carrier but by the us. forces... so you dont need any dataservice or even simcard to get your gps position with your gps-enabled phone...

larrytango said:
sorry took so long to reply (keyboard really has issues ... or maybe i have the issues and just cant use it) so i came to pc to reply.
i was indoors at the time (trying to show my gf how great my phone is and shes with her iphone getting a gps location in seconds) so i was indoors , i have tried outside however and it dont seem to work, i had the same (and still do) with my xda ignito and just give up on it , but this is a new phone and i just want to be able to sit in my house and go oooh phone says im here haha.
i used quickgps however that has not helped
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Are you using igo8? I know i had to manually set the correct com port (COM4) within igo settings before it would work.
Also you can manually set it in google maps. Try setting it to COM4 baud rate of 4800
The carrier locating in my area is useless when i am inside my house. Says i am like a mile away in the middle of a field! lol.

larrytango said:
sorry took so long to reply (keyboard really has issues ... or maybe i have the issues and just cant use it) so i came to pc to reply.
i was indoors at the time (trying to show my gf how great my phone is and shes with her iphone getting a gps location in seconds) so i was indoors , i have tried outside however and it dont seem to work, i had the same (and still do) with my xda ignito and just give up on it , but this is a new phone and i just want to be able to sit in my house and go oooh phone says im here haha.
i used quickgps however that has not helped
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As others have replied- the iPhone uses a different method of getting your position, as its GPS receiver is pretty poor (which is why TomTom needs its own GPS receiver in a dedicated cradle to work properly )
The HD2 has the best GPS receiver I've yet seen in a mobile device- no longer than 1 minute even from cold start in most cases- and I've used it in UK, Italy and Slovenia in the last 6 weeks. However, if you are indoors it will struggle.
Which software are you using to try and get a fix? Maybe it isn't initiating the GPS correctly.
The Ignito is also pretty good, so maybe you are in a 'dead' area? Have you tried in a different location?

brandi said:
gps does not care about the carrier...
BTW: What the iphone does (and your phone can do too) is the self positining using the google api. that works over the cellular network, using a table of positions where the antennas are lokated and not gps!
GPS indoors is not possible with a antenna like the HD2 or the Iphone has, aslong as you live in a "normal house" and not in some weird mobile home ect...
If it cant get a fix using google maps or tomtom outside of your house within 2minutes of not moving somewhere on the street, or the gps tuner did not even find one satellite, think of hard-resetting your phone and then try again.
if you sill can find anything your antenna might be broken so you need to return your phone to warrenty and get a new one, or yours fixed!
greetz
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i said what network i was on to imply what rom i was on (was first day with hd2 and i was typing using it .. and i wanted to make it as small as possible - hate the kb lol)
and my gf iphone does actually pick up gps in the house , mine doesnt tho.
i got a signal once since i started this when outside after about 20 mins.
i understand what you mean with regards to cell network etc and obviously that works fine .. however gps seems to not like me