HD & TMC - Touch HD General

Hello, I am sure if has RDS - TMC can be managed somehow. Any cab file for?
Thanks - for positive answers only!

I'd really like this as well!
anyone up for it?

it seems to me, like the FM-Chip does support RDS, since the Radio application views the correct station names for me, which he can only know by reading the info sent via RDS, since it isn't connected to the internet

Sure it does support RDS, so TMC must be possible in theory. But I think it depends on the support of the navigation software.
For instance IGo8.0.x detects a TMC source, but doesn't find any channel. IGo8.3.x doesn't even find a TMC.
So I think, we have just to wait a little bit.

yes. i think so too.
for my last device, the eten glofiish x800 it has been the same a view igo versions ago, until they included support for it.
But before that, one guy from the eten-users.eu forum wrote a custom gpstmc.dll which read the RDS info from the radio and supplied them to igo which worked quite well.

kaefert said:
yes. i think so too.
for my last device, the eten glofiish x800 it has been the same a view igo versions ago, until they included support for it.
But before that, one guy from the eten-users.eu forum wrote a custom gpstmc.dll which read the RDS info from the radio and supplied them to igo which worked quite well.
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Thats right, but we can not use it, because the gsptmc.dll is taking some routines from dll´s, we don not have on our devices.

apokryphus said:
Thats right, but we can not use it, because the gsptmc.dll is taking some routines from dll´s, we don not have on our devices.
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hmm. I'm not sure if I understood you correctly. how can it use routines from dll's that whe don't have on our devices? I mean if you use a routine you will need some way to access it, won't you? Or do you mean it wants to use dlls for reading the TMC infos from the radio which we don't have, and therefore it doesn't work?
As I see it, someone would need to find out how the radio application that has been delivered by HTC does access the radio and especially how it does read the RDS messages. Then with the knowledge gained, a new gpstmc.dll would need to be written to feed the RDS messages into the navigation system.

If it turns out that waiting for the software TMC support takes too long I have an alternative proposal:
- it would be possible to buy a TMC receiver for a mere ~$100 and
- log the TMC messages in country. All of them.
- start a website
- write a program that periodically downloads the content of the website via 3G
- and feed a COM port that Igo or other navigation programs can read.
As far as I know (please correct me if you know an existing solution) there is no such site online.
How does it sound?

tbcc said:
How does it sound?
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The idea itself isn't that bad, but first of all you would have to check the laws.
I don't know if it would be legal to contribute TMC Pro data for free, whereas the normal TMC data is really crappy most times .

Well for me that wouldn't be a that good solution, since I don't have a internet connection plan for my phone.
But there is already something similar on the market: TomTom has such a service.

kaefert said:
Or do you mean it wants to use dlls for reading the TMC infos from the radio which we don't have, and therefore it doesn't work?
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Yepp, that i meant - it wants to use special eten based dll´s that we do not have on our htc devices, therefor the dll provided by the eten user will not work on out devices - i tried it already...

apokryphus said:
Yepp, that i meant - it wants to use special eten based dll´s that we do not have on our htc devices, therefor the dll provided by the eten user will not work on out devices - i tried it already...
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well of course you can't use the same way to use TMC on HTC as on ETEN devices.
But since the radio application delivered by HTC displays RDS info, some developer who knows this stuff could disassemble the radio application and find out how it accesses the RDS messages. Then, when he found out how it works, he could program a replacement gpstmc.dll which could feed the TMC messages to navigation systems.
That was the procedure the developer who made TMC work on E-TEN devices followed to make it work.

kaefert said:
well of course you can't use the same way to use TMC on HTC as on ETEN devices.
But since the radio application delivered by HTC displays RDS info, some developer who knows this stuff could disassemble the radio application and find out how it accesses the RDS messages. Then, when he found out how it works, he could program a replacement gpstmc.dll which could feed the TMC messages to navigation systems.
That was the procedure the developer who made TMC work on E-TEN devices followed to make it work.
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Well, i also have had this plan, but since i disassambled the two dlls and could not found any hints in the headers about the rd-system, i stopped any further investigations. if you or any others are a bit experienced in programming and disassembling, feel free to contact me...

apokryphus said:
Well, i also have had this plan, but since i disassambled the two dlls and could not found any hints in the headers about the rd-system, i stopped any further investigations. if you or any others are a bit experienced in programming and disassembling, feel free to contact me...
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Well im a programmer and I would love to help, but this low level stuff and C & C++ coding things aren't my strengths. I've never disassembled a program.

i will not answer since you want only positive answers!
...but how do you do with the antenna? are you going to use it with the headset?

pzucchel said:
i will not answer since you want only positive answers!
...but how do you do with the antenna? are you going to use it with the headset?
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yes an antenna will be required for TMC, but making the sound go to the speaker isn't that hard. Aditionally a special antenna could be build to be plugged into the ear phone socket, which would have better reception and be easier to install in a car.

pzucchel said:
...but how do you do with the antenna? are you going to use it with the headset?
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What is the problem with that? Using a headset while the speaker stays enabled is possible, so I think its just a question of receiving the tmc data making it readable for igo8.

Has anything changed? I guess that it isn't possible yet, but maybe there is someone working on it?

johnpatcher said:
Has anything changed? I guess that it isn't possible yet, but maybe there is someone working on it?
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Well the first thing required would be to disassemble the from HTC delivered FM Radio application, and find out how it reads the RDS messages.
I would do it, but I have zero experience with disassembling, and the chances that i find anything useful therefore are very slim.

apokryphus said:
but since i disassambled the two dlls
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What dll's did you looked at? I have looked into the OEM package of the FMRadio and couldn't find a single dll. As I'm not a programmer I don't know if it would be possible to place all needed stuff into the FMRadio.exe, which is 195kb in size.
I will attach the oem package with my post, maybe some of you is able to disassemble it. I have tried the desktop version of ChARMeD, which fails while trying to open this exe.
Maybe someone of you has more luck (or better utilities + more knowledge).
€dit: After some disassembling with IDA Pro I could handle out that at least ossvcs.dll is imported in some way, so I am going to attach it.
I could isolate the following functions:
Code:
FM_GetCurrentStatus .text 0002FF18 0000000C R . . . . . .
FM_Create .text 0002FF28 0000000C R . . . . . .
FM_Init .text 0002FF38 0000000C R . . . . . .
FM_Destroy .text 0002FF48 0000000C R . . . . . .
FM_Enable .text 0002FF58 0000000C R . . . . . .
FM_Disable .text 0002FF68 0000000C R . . . . . .
FM_MuteRadio .text 0002FF78 0000000C R . . . . . .
FM_GetBandMode .text 0002FF88 0000000C R . . . . . .
FM_SetBand .text 0002FF98 0000000C R . . . . . .
FM_GetDemphMode .text 0002FFA8 0000000C R . . . . . .
FM_SetDeemphasisMode .text 0002FFB8 0000000C R . . . . . .
FM_Seek .text 0002FFC8 0000000C R . . . . . .
FM_RssiSearchLevel .text 0002FFD8 0000000C R . . . . . .
FM_GetRSSISearchLevel .text 0002FFE8 0000000C R . . . . . .
FM_Tune .text 0002FFF8 0000000C R . . . . . .
FM_GetCurrentFreq .text 00030008 0000000C R . . . . . .
FM_RssiGet .text 00030018 0000000C R . . . . . .
FM_SetVolume .text 00030028 0000000C R . . . . . .
FM_GetVolume .text 00030038 0000000C R . . . . . .
FM_GetMuteMode .text 00030048 0000000C R . . . . . .
FM_GetMoSt .text 00030058 0000000C R . . . . . .
FM_SetMoSt .text 00030068 0000000C R . . . . . .
FM_SetAudioPath .text 00030078 0000000C R . . . . . .
FM_SetRDS .text 00030088 0000000C R . . . . . .
FM_SetRdsRbds .text 00030098 0000000C R . . . . . .
Especially the last two ones look interesting. Unfortunately I can't see a method returning any rds data, maybe this is done by "FM_GetCurrentStatus", but as I already mentioned I am not a programmer nor a disassembler, so this is just a guess.
Anyone out there who finds this information useful ?

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GPS on Vogue .. test this out for me ..

download this file .. it is "HTC GPS Tool" for Cpu QualComm MSM7200.
i wonder if it can see SAT as HTC Touch Dual.
http://www.pdamobiz.com/forum/uploads/file3/191B4_GPSTool_TouchDual.rar
put into \Windows then call GPSTool0813.exe
next, choose Sirf .. the program will ask u that .. if this device is QualComm .. yes or no ..
of course .. yes .. then u must setup the port to SMD7 or try all ports if it doesn't work ..
until u see data coming ..
couldnt get it to work :\
try all possible setting again .. u need to stay outside of building ..
if it doesn't work .. it might be the software won't support Cpu QualComm MSM7500

[help] registry of Camera

Hi All,
I accidentally changed the name of one of the key and I need your help to check you registry and let me know what is the correct name of the following:
HKLM\Software\HTC\Camera
- Captparam
- Common
- ?
- General
- Image
- OSDMenu
.
.
.
.
I need to know the one in '?'
THanks all!
I've got nothing between Common and General - the full list of what I've got in HKLM\Software\HTC\Camera is:
Captparam
Common
General
Image
OSDMenu
P1
P10
P2
P3 (etc... to P9)
Recparam
SDK
SendCommand
SendCommand_Video
Video
i don't have either nothing between Common and General
gosh... looks like I am rather screwed.
am using original
Asia ROM 1.48.707.2
Radio 2.05.51.05...2
Protocol 15.28.50.07U
Manila 2.5.19211619.0
OS 5.2.21869(21869.5.0.82)
THanks Isdora and Carlosmozas!
Just to add. This key has the following entries:
AniCOlor
ChangeOsdOrientation
Countdowntimer
CurCameraUIOrientation
DisableOsdShow
.
.
.
.
.
hangyong said:
Just to add. This key has the following entries:
AniCOlor
ChangeOsdOrientation
Countdowntimer
CurCameraUIOrientation
DisableOsdShow
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The options u have given are found under
HKLM/...... General in my ROM
1.48.405 WWE
ah!!!!!
does anyone have the same ROM as mine?
thanks all for your input so far!
Greatly appreciate it.

Cooker needing help with huashuan dialer+videocall

Hello,
I'm cooking for topaz 6.5.3 roms build 23128 with a mix of topaz, rhodium and oboe packages. I've managed to solve a lot of problems and everything works well now except one thing : VIDEO TELEPHONY doesn't work !!!!
I'm actually using those packages :
Phone_Canvas_Enhancement_5_0_61220152721_0
Video_Telephony_3_0_38566_0
WITH NO SUCCESS !!!! I've searched a lot in xda and mobileunderground and didn't find any solution, or maybe I missed it
Please, can anyone help me ?
up ! still no idea ???
Waht do u mean exactly with "VIDEO TELEPHONY doesn't work !!!!"
can u plz explain more?
And r u sure that ur Cell Provider support video telephony for ur line? r ur network settings correct?
WBR
Siemens Lover
siemenslover : I do have a subscription to 3g service and the stock rom allows me to make videocalls. But my cooked rom always fails to dial any number in video mode (3g) !!!

[Q] Internal Battery NONE

Hello
I did not found a answer for this problem by search so I open a new thread.
My issue is the internal back up battery on my xda mini II .
The original internal bat type Varta V18HRT showed 0% so I decided to change it.
The replacement is a Varta V20HR . According to the folks at Varta ( German made and I,m in Germany ) it should work fine. Now my backup battery shows NONE.
Anyone has a sollution for this ???
brockholz said:
Hello
I did not found a answer for this problem by search so I open a new thread.
My issue is the internal back up battery on my xda mini II .
The original internal bat type Varta V18HRT showed 0% so I decided to change it.
The replacement is a Varta V20HR . According to the folks at Varta ( German made and I,m in Germany ) it should work fine. Now my backup battery shows NONE.
Anyone has a sollution for this ???
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maybe you could try using the included since HTCMAG BatClear ROM CHS O1 is not included in Generation 9 to overcome them !! check -> http://www.cotulla.pp.ru/MagBatClear.html
Hakim Rahman said:
maybe you could try using the included since HTCMAG BatClear ROM CHS O1 is not included in Generation 9 to overcome them !! check -> http://www.cotulla.pp.ru/MagBatClear.html
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terima kasih
I want to try Batclear but I can not find a download for it in your link or is it included in the Rom only ?
brockholz said:
terima kasih
I want to try Batclear but I can not find a download for it in your link or is it included in the Rom only ?
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yep, you right ! indeed Batclear included in the rom and try to look at http://www.cotulla.pp.ru/Magician2.html
I can not find batclear in my cotulla rom ( new win 6.5 gen 9 ) . Its excluded. Do you have a source where I can load it ?
brockholz said:
I can not find batclear in my cotulla rom ( new win 6.5 gen 9 ) . Its excluded. Do you have a source where I can load it ?
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BatClear program are in windows direktoris ( Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional / HTCMAG ROM CHS O1 )
sorry, Cotulla do not allowing to distribute the material contained in his rom

Learning about developping tools

Hello,
I am java developer and I need documentation to understand how our dear phones work .I am not a genius (as you might see) but I am very curious and persevering .
My first question is ...how to settle connexion with my x10 .
The second is ... what is all data present in my x10 flash memory (files..etc)
My questions may seem naive but I dont know where to begin .
Thank you .
The phone works with the ril related stuff
Which are binaries and libraries
Like pm , port-bridge these Are binaries
Like libril.so , etc these are libraries
These files contact the framework.jar and services.jar files to give u connection
Hope that resolves your doubt
Feel free to pm me
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