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Modifying the flight mode facility

I currently use a QTEK s110 mainly for sat nav purposes. i dont use it as a phone at all. i am using tom tom5 with a globalsat bt-338 bluetooth reciever. with the bluetooth running it runs the pda battery down in about 2-3 hours if i forgot to lift the car charger from the other car. also it is a pin to start up as i have switch flight mode off and then wait fo rth phone to boot up before activating the tt software. so here are my questions.
is there anyway i can just get the tom tom to switch the flight mode off when i activate the tom tom software?
or is there anyway i can switch the pda off when not in flightmode rather than put it in standby as this just wastes the battery?
Can a shortcut button be created for the flight mode facility?
is there a fix for running the bluetooth with the flight mode on?
at present i have to switch off flight mode which becomes a pain when i have to switch it back on.
i have looked in to using the Globalsat sd-502 but it has compatibility issues.
i appreciate any help on this
Teb

"is there a fix for running the bluetooth with the flight mode on? "
tebs,
I know how you feel. This seems to be a problem with certain firmwares of the Qtec S110.
My manual states that holding down the power button turns the phone part off but not on my phone.
I'm currently testing Phone Alarm. It allows you to set up profiles. I've set one up which switches the radio (i.e. phone) off and bluetooth on. With it you don't have to go anywhere near flight mode. In fact, if you do, it'll get a bit confused. It's two presses on the today page to change modes. You can configure it to automatically put your phone pin in when switching the phone on. It's one press to toggle bluetooth on or off.
It takes some configuring but may do the job and its quite cheap (30 day trial)

Hi Borg,
i have also been using phone alarm for the last 3 weeks or so and its workin quite well. look as if i`ll have to purchase the software as my 30 day trial period is about to expire.

Yes, it's a pain that we have to buy software just to do what should be standard i.e. have bluetooth on without the phone on, but there you go. I contacted Qtek about this and they were pretty useless. Eventually I convinced them that it wasn't a faulty device but a faulty firmware and the only firmware that they offered me was the one I already had which is when I turned to PhoneAlarm.
Maybe one day HTC will put two physical switches on their devices to turn off phone and bluetooth - much better than software flight mode.
On a related note: I use sat nav whilst walking. I would like my bluetooth to actually turn off when I turn the device off so as to save PDA battery power. I'm sure the manual says it does turn off when you turn off the device but again it doesn't with my firmware - does yours?

borgs said:
Maybe one day HTC will put two physical switches on their devices to turn off phone and bluetooth - much better than software flight mode.
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I've been saying that for ages! But honestly I dont even need physical buttons. If they would at least make the communications module togging (ie flight mode plus other radio functions) accessible from an on screen area bigger than a pinhead, that would be enough for a start. Its impossible to do it one handed. I'd love to know who the bonehead is at MS product development that okayed such awful ergonomics on a critical funciton...

Borg, my one is the same i cannot switch it off with the bluetooth running. need to switch it off first before switching the pda off otherwise the screen goes blank for a second then comes back up again!
skagen i totally agree with your comments.
its a pity the globalsat sd-502 doesnt work with it either that way you`d save loads of power not using the bluetooth at all. unfortunately once again the qtek has let us done on that one too as it doesnt detect the memory card!

Try
1. radiooff.exe
2. Turn on Blutooth
3. Tomtom -> GPS -> Configure -> Other NMEA GPS (4800,COM5 )

tebs said:
is there a fix for running the bluetooth with the flight mode on?
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Try this:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\FlightMode]
"IsFMCheckEnable"=dword:00000000
"WarningMsg"="Please turn Flight Mode off first"
Change "IsFMCheckEnable"=dword:00000001 to "IsFMCheckEnable"=dword:00000000
Works for me...
Bye

it doesnt exist on my registry

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Krisu said:
Try
1. radiooff.exe
2. Turn on Blutooth
3. Tomtom -> GPS -> Configure -> Other NMEA GPS (4800,COM5 )
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radiooff.exe sounds interesting but I couldn't find it on my pocketPC. I looked in the windows directory and then I did a find. Is it a third party product?
Please ignore, I wasn't logged in when I read that message and so it didn't show me the download. Thanks

moghisi101 said:
tebs said:
is there a fix for running the bluetooth with the flight mode on?
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Try this:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\FlightMode]
"IsFMCheckEnable"=dword:00000000
"WarningMsg"="Please turn Flight Mode off first"
Change "IsFMCheckEnable"=dword:00000001 to "IsFMCheckEnable"=dword:00000000
Works for me...
Bye
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This also doesn't exist in my registry but the warningmsg part exists under OEM rather than HTC. But, if I add IsFMCheckEnable 0 it has no effect.
I think that this is probably a difference between the Qtek firmwares and the iMate firmwares. Qtek seem to have stuffed up in their current firmware.

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Krisu said:
Try
1. radiooff.exe
2. Turn on Blutooth
3. Tomtom -> GPS -> Configure -> Other NMEA GPS (4800,COM5 )
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Fantastic - thank you so much Krisu!
I have now uninstalled PhoneAlarm, done a soft reset and can now toggle the phone off and on using that app. If the bluetooth is currently running it leaves it running. No need to go near the flight mode button and should be able to assign it to one of the keys for fast turning off of the phone.
Thanks again!

borgs said:
moghisi101 said:
tebs said:
is there a fix for running the bluetooth with the flight mode on?
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Try this:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\FlightMode]
"IsFMCheckEnable"=dword:00000000
"WarningMsg"="Please turn Flight Mode off first"
Change "IsFMCheckEnable"=dword:00000001 to "IsFMCheckEnable"=dword:00000000
Works for me...
Bye
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This also doesn't exist in my registry but the warningmsg part exists under OEM rather than HTC. But, if I add IsFMCheckEnable 0 it has no effect.
I think that this is probably a difference between the Qtek firmwares and the iMate firmwares. Qtek seem to have stuffed up in their current firmware.
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LOL, yea I forgot to mention that my Qtek is running on an Imate ROM. That may be why...

moghisii101: No probs mate, I appreciate the info - if anything its shown me that the iMate rom flight mode is better implemented than the Qtek version.
tebs: check this thread out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=39281
You will find a bluetooth cycle program there (CicleBT). It seems to work ok with radiooff.exe but can get a bit confused if you download (from there) and use FlightMode. So I would suggest that you use radiooff.exe and CicleBT. I've assigned them to buttons. Phone Profiler also seems to have problems with our dodgy firmware. Again this is not the program's fault but what Qtek have done with their firmare.
And cheers for your thread as you've helped me solve my problems!

Check out SKScheMa at www.s-k-tools.com as it can turn WiFi BT and GSM on and off from a scripting language or from its scheduler.
Cheers cjb

I use the bluesoleil BT stack,and I can use tomtom with the phone off!

Anyone got TomTom working with BT GPS with Phone OFF?

As the title says. I have got TomTom 5.21 running fine on my Exec, but it will only connect to my BT GPS device when the phone radio is switched on. If you go to GPS Status it says "No GPS Device (Flight Mode)" as if Flight Mode in some way explains why the BT connection can't be made and I am stupid for even trying!
So has anybody got this to work with the phone radio switched off?

Whatcha Melty. Not for Universal, but the principle is the same: flight mode disables the phone+bluetooth. However, you want to disable the phone radio only, but leave bluetooth enabled. That requires a reg mod or a third party app.
Have you read this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=36788&highlight=
V

Hi Vijay,
I hadn't seen that thread. Thanks! I will try out some of the stuff and if I decide it would be better with an app, I'll knock one up. It'll just be a wrapper for TomTom that just forces flight mode off and then starts TomTom. I could run it instead of the normal TomTom app. Mind you, if I'm going to use my Exce as a phone then I might ot bother!
I've used the TAPI lib on the XDA2 to force flight mode off etc for a program for work, so it's not exactly difficult, but I just wondered if I was missing a simple setting somewhere.

i dunno.... looks to me like it's tomtom at fault here.
the wireless manager on my exec is happy to let me switch on bluetooth only, but switch off phone and wireless. it's just that tomtom sees phone off and assumes the worst
it only seems to check on startup though, so for a low-tech workaround you could always leave your phone on, startup tomtom and let it connect to your GPS, then switch back to wireless manager and switch off your phone.
once the connection is established, tomtom doesn't check again, and the WM wireless manager keeps the bluetooth connection up while turning off the phone

That actually makes perfect sense dalelane (although it means TomTom coders are mad). Thanks! :wink:

(app idea) auto start/stop bluetooth in car

Maybe this idea has already been discussed but i would love my bluetooth radio to start and stop when plugged into my car charger.

I dont think the device can differentiate a normal charger or car charger. It will still have the same output! Probably a button on the screen to change to bluetooth radio will help a lot.

I had the same thought...
In the future this might be solved by using RFID
you put one of those babies in your car and the phone senses that and switched to "car mode", the same could work when you are in the office
but for now..
I was thinking of using a mortscript which checks the current time
(since I'm in the car in the morning and evening)
and the day (mon through to fri)
if all those match turn on BT, otherwise don't.
I've written an application which will run all mscr files in a certain directory every X time ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=449657)
I was planning to use it for the above.
btw. it is possible to write an application which will turn on your BT when you plug it in the charger, but that would be any changer... not just your car charger...

Of course there are several apps that are able to do this job.
For example PhoneWeaver
http://www.sbsh.net/products/windows_mobile_pocket_pc/phoneweaver
You can set a profile fired by external power on event and in this profile you can define only BT on event.
Very easy, robust and nice application for only $14.95 - works on touch diamond/pro and on my Touch HD as well.

For this purpose, I'm using BluePower (Freeware).
http://www.kixass.net/bluepower/
I already wrote the author an email for some feature requests, but didn't get an answer yet. But it still works fine (with some issues).
-Lycox

Thanks for the suggestions
I will certainly give the two suggestions a look. I have no programming experience so writing scripts is a little out of my reach but thanks anyway.
Update; The bluepower app work perfectly, does everything i need and its free..

probably you can start "toggle bluetooth link"(mortscript or whatever) the same way as repllog.exe starts when you're connected to pc.
there is an option in notifications "start when AC on". just a wild guess, i'm sure it can be easily implemented somehow.

CommManagerPro can also turn BT on/off on a schedule, as well as location-based.

Zombie BA

hello every 1. I have a BA running windows mob 6.1 pro and everything is working fine except t e fact that when i put the device on standby, it is always turning itself on again. does this happen to anyone? thanks

hi
any test?what do mean?

Zero|Cool said:
hello every 1. I have a BA running windows mob 6.1 pro and everything is working fine except t e fact that when i put the device on standby, it is always turning itself on again. does this happen to anyone? thanks
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which ROM do you have?
Do you happen to have BigMike bluetooth running?

standy..you mean you press the power button and the screen goes off, right? And then it turns on by itself? Did you check if your bluetooth is on? Because I experienced this too before, if I left the bluetooth on and I turn off (stand by) the BA after a while it will turn on itself. Hope this helps. Cheers.

Try going through your power management under settings.
You might have tick a few things there.

I was getting this trouble too!
As Resident evil... on nights my device wakes up and begins screaming STARS!!!!
I just call Claire redfield and Alice and they burn on its head! PUMMM!
jajajaj
Well... check out your settings if you have a program runing under... and it needs conections via BT, Wi-fi or GPRS... your device gonna wakes up trying to get conection all the ways it can... if nothing is runing behind maybe was a bad flash... reflash it...
Hope all we can help you...
We are like a squadron supporting forces... Huh im playing too much Acecombat 5....

It could either be Bluetooth running and also it could be some appointment/message turning your device on. Also, do you have your device cradled? ActiveSync (if connected to PC) will turn your device on to sync.
Hope this helps

red_hanks said:
standy..you mean you press the power button and the screen goes off, right? And then it turns on by itself? Did you check if your bluetooth is on? Because I experienced this too before, if I left the bluetooth on and I turn off (stand by) the BA after a while it will turn on itself. Hope this helps. Cheers.
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It's exaclty that. I read somewhere it has something to do with the bluetooth stack, I turned off BT and it stopped lol However I need BT always on as I use an external sirf star 3 gps and I pair up the mobile phone with my car. Can anyone tell me how to fix this? Tks

Zero|Cool said:
It's exaclty that. I read somewhere it has something to do with the bluetooth stack, I turned off BT and it stopped lol However I need BT always on as I use an external sirf star 3 gps and I pair up the mobile phone with my car. Can anyone tell me how to fix this? Tks
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There is no fix. Since WM5, the BT driver requires that it be turned on periodically or else it turns itself off. All ROM cookers (AFAIK) use the big mike fix driver to keep the BT alive.

motisu said:
There is no fix. Since WM5, the BT driver requires that it be turned on periodically or else it turns itself off. All ROM cookers (AFAIK) use the big mike fix driver to keep the BT alive.
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I read somewhere that if you installed another BT stack that eventually it would solve the problem? Is this true?

ok there is fix but i do not advice you to use it if you use BT handsfree - because with original driver BT turns off when device get in standby and this one keeps it working

you can install S2U2 and set:
Lock when device wakes up: ON
Power Off in: 5s (this is the minimum).
this is not a solution, but more like a workaround...this works for me well...

When use Garmin, Phone Stand by!!!

Hi, when I use my GPS software (Garmin specifically) after I while, my htc gets stand by mode and I have to turn it on every time.
Is there a software that I can configure that when I use 'x' program (garmin) do not get into standby mode?
Thanks, I really apreciate all help.

I don't us Garmin but most GPS programs have a dynamic power setting.