I currently use a QTEK s110 mainly for sat nav purposes. i dont use it as a phone at all. i am using tom tom5 with a globalsat bt-338 bluetooth reciever. with the bluetooth running it runs the pda battery down in about 2-3 hours if i forgot to lift the car charger from the other car. also it is a pin to start up as i have switch flight mode off and then wait fo rth phone to boot up before activating the tt software. so here are my questions.
is there anyway i can just get the tom tom to switch the flight mode off when i activate the tom tom software?
or is there anyway i can switch the pda off when not in flightmode rather than put it in standby as this just wastes the battery?
Can a shortcut button be created for the flight mode facility?
is there a fix for running the bluetooth with the flight mode on?
at present i have to switch off flight mode which becomes a pain when i have to switch it back on.
i have looked in to using the Globalsat sd-502 but it has compatibility issues.
i appreciate any help on this
Teb
"is there a fix for running the bluetooth with the flight mode on? "
tebs,
I know how you feel. This seems to be a problem with certain firmwares of the Qtec S110.
My manual states that holding down the power button turns the phone part off but not on my phone.
I'm currently testing Phone Alarm. It allows you to set up profiles. I've set one up which switches the radio (i.e. phone) off and bluetooth on. With it you don't have to go anywhere near flight mode. In fact, if you do, it'll get a bit confused. It's two presses on the today page to change modes. You can configure it to automatically put your phone pin in when switching the phone on. It's one press to toggle bluetooth on or off.
It takes some configuring but may do the job and its quite cheap (30 day trial)
Hi Borg,
i have also been using phone alarm for the last 3 weeks or so and its workin quite well. look as if i`ll have to purchase the software as my 30 day trial period is about to expire.
Yes, it's a pain that we have to buy software just to do what should be standard i.e. have bluetooth on without the phone on, but there you go. I contacted Qtek about this and they were pretty useless. Eventually I convinced them that it wasn't a faulty device but a faulty firmware and the only firmware that they offered me was the one I already had which is when I turned to PhoneAlarm.
Maybe one day HTC will put two physical switches on their devices to turn off phone and bluetooth - much better than software flight mode.
On a related note: I use sat nav whilst walking. I would like my bluetooth to actually turn off when I turn the device off so as to save PDA battery power. I'm sure the manual says it does turn off when you turn off the device but again it doesn't with my firmware - does yours?
borgs said:
Maybe one day HTC will put two physical switches on their devices to turn off phone and bluetooth - much better than software flight mode.
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I've been saying that for ages! But honestly I dont even need physical buttons. If they would at least make the communications module togging (ie flight mode plus other radio functions) accessible from an on screen area bigger than a pinhead, that would be enough for a start. Its impossible to do it one handed. I'd love to know who the bonehead is at MS product development that okayed such awful ergonomics on a critical funciton...
Borg, my one is the same i cannot switch it off with the bluetooth running. need to switch it off first before switching the pda off otherwise the screen goes blank for a second then comes back up again!
skagen i totally agree with your comments.
its a pity the globalsat sd-502 doesnt work with it either that way you`d save loads of power not using the bluetooth at all. unfortunately once again the qtek has let us done on that one too as it doesnt detect the memory card!
Try
1. radiooff.exe
2. Turn on Blutooth
3. Tomtom -> GPS -> Configure -> Other NMEA GPS (4800,COM5 )
tebs said:
is there a fix for running the bluetooth with the flight mode on?
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Try this:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\FlightMode]
"IsFMCheckEnable"=dword:00000000
"WarningMsg"="Please turn Flight Mode off first"
Change "IsFMCheckEnable"=dword:00000001 to "IsFMCheckEnable"=dword:00000000
Works for me...
Bye
it doesnt exist on my registry
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Krisu said:
Try
1. radiooff.exe
2. Turn on Blutooth
3. Tomtom -> GPS -> Configure -> Other NMEA GPS (4800,COM5 )
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radiooff.exe sounds interesting but I couldn't find it on my pocketPC. I looked in the windows directory and then I did a find. Is it a third party product?
Please ignore, I wasn't logged in when I read that message and so it didn't show me the download. Thanks
moghisi101 said:
tebs said:
is there a fix for running the bluetooth with the flight mode on?
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Try this:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\FlightMode]
"IsFMCheckEnable"=dword:00000000
"WarningMsg"="Please turn Flight Mode off first"
Change "IsFMCheckEnable"=dword:00000001 to "IsFMCheckEnable"=dword:00000000
Works for me...
Bye
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This also doesn't exist in my registry but the warningmsg part exists under OEM rather than HTC. But, if I add IsFMCheckEnable 0 it has no effect.
I think that this is probably a difference between the Qtek firmwares and the iMate firmwares. Qtek seem to have stuffed up in their current firmware.
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Krisu said:
Try
1. radiooff.exe
2. Turn on Blutooth
3. Tomtom -> GPS -> Configure -> Other NMEA GPS (4800,COM5 )
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Fantastic - thank you so much Krisu!
I have now uninstalled PhoneAlarm, done a soft reset and can now toggle the phone off and on using that app. If the bluetooth is currently running it leaves it running. No need to go near the flight mode button and should be able to assign it to one of the keys for fast turning off of the phone.
Thanks again!
borgs said:
moghisi101 said:
tebs said:
is there a fix for running the bluetooth with the flight mode on?
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Try this:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\FlightMode]
"IsFMCheckEnable"=dword:00000000
"WarningMsg"="Please turn Flight Mode off first"
Change "IsFMCheckEnable"=dword:00000001 to "IsFMCheckEnable"=dword:00000000
Works for me...
Bye
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This also doesn't exist in my registry but the warningmsg part exists under OEM rather than HTC. But, if I add IsFMCheckEnable 0 it has no effect.
I think that this is probably a difference between the Qtek firmwares and the iMate firmwares. Qtek seem to have stuffed up in their current firmware.
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LOL, yea I forgot to mention that my Qtek is running on an Imate ROM. That may be why...
moghisii101: No probs mate, I appreciate the info - if anything its shown me that the iMate rom flight mode is better implemented than the Qtek version.
tebs: check this thread out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=39281
You will find a bluetooth cycle program there (CicleBT). It seems to work ok with radiooff.exe but can get a bit confused if you download (from there) and use FlightMode. So I would suggest that you use radiooff.exe and CicleBT. I've assigned them to buttons. Phone Profiler also seems to have problems with our dodgy firmware. Again this is not the program's fault but what Qtek have done with their firmare.
And cheers for your thread as you've helped me solve my problems!
Check out SKScheMa at www.s-k-tools.com as it can turn WiFi BT and GSM on and off from a scripting language or from its scheduler.
Cheers cjb
I use the bluesoleil BT stack,and I can use tomtom with the phone off!
I just upgrade my magician to 1.13 w/ BigStorage. And now I cannot activate my bluetooth. Everytime BT was enabled, warning message pops up says "Please turn off Flight Mode first!" and BT changed to disabled.
I've tried to instal Bluesoleil driver and it works perfectly. However, everytime I switched to Microsoft driver, the problem occurs again. And BCHS (bluetooth stack) for A2DP didnt work either since it's using ms driver.
I've also installed BTHUSB_PATCH_AKU26.cab and no change at all. Maybe I missed some cab files from extended rom? Anyone have the same problem. Thank you.
Have you used a 3rd party program to turn off the radio or switch on/off flight mode?
I did that and it confused the heck out of the Magician ... it'd think the phone's in flight mode when it isn't, and kept telling me turn off flight mode before turning on BT ... (now, I never understand why you have to turn radio on to turn on bluetooth ... that's just stupid)
Anyways, since I switched to PhoneAlarm and used that to turn BT on and off that problem's gone away.
Good luck
I used PocketZenPhone. It has a function to turn on/off Flight Mode.
So in this case, I have to hard reset and start from the beginning, right? . Uhhh...it will take times for me to do it since all my works depends on my magician.
Any other posibilities?
Hi folks,
I upgraded my Hermes with Schap's Windows Mobile 6 ROM. Works fine so far. But when I try to use my Bluetooth GPS it acts strange.
I paired the Bluetooth device and set up a COM-port for the applications. The first time it works. The next time, when I switch on Bluetooth and start for example TomTom, the Hermes tells me there is a new Bluetooth device that wants to connect. I checked and found out the GPS is still in the list of known Bluetooth devices and the COM-port is set. But the assistant is still bugging until I add the "new" device. After that of course my "old" device is gone.
How can I avoid this? Anyone experiencing the same problem?
I have the same issue, really annoying so would love to know the answer
Tafkas.Net said:
Hi folks,
I upgraded my Hermes with Schap's Windows Mobile 6 ROM. Works fine so far. But when I try to use my Bluetooth GPS it acts strange.
I paired the Bluetooth device and set up a COM-port for the applications. The first time it works. The next time, when I switch on Bluetooth and start for example TomTom, the Hermes tells me there is a new Bluetooth device that wants to connect. I checked and found out the GPS is still in the list of known Bluetooth devices and the COM-port is set. But the assistant is still bugging until I add the "new" device. After that of course my "old" device is gone.
How can I avoid this? Anyone experiencing the same problem?
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On your Hermes:
Have you tried to checked off: "Make this device visible to other devices"?
Under: Start\Settings\Connections\Bluetooth\Mode (2nd tab on the bottom)
Option #1 (Hermes)
~If, "Make this device visible to other devices is not enabled, delete the pairing for your GPS.
~Check off "Make this device visible to other devices"
~Pair your GPS again (ensure that "Make this device visible to other devices" is still enabled)
Option #2 (GPS)
Don't know what kind of settings for bluetooth you may have on your GPS. I found for my car stereo, that I needed to leave it, in the "waiting/open for connection mode.
Now when I turn the car on it automatically connects the phone and stereo off my Hermes.
What I'm basically saying here is there may be a setting to leave your GPS automatically open for bluetooth connections?
I think option #1 may do the trick....
Hope this helps! Good Luck!
jac said:
On your Hermes:
Have you tried to checked off: "Make this device visible to other devices"?
Under: Start\Settings\Connections\Bluetooth\Mode (2nd tab on the bottom)
Option #1 (Hermes)
~If, "Make this device visible to other devices is not enabled, delete the pairing for your GPS.
~Check off "Make this device visible to other devices"
~Pair your GPS again (ensure that "Make this device visible to other devices" is still enabled)
Option #2 (GPS)
Don't know what kind of settings for bluetooth you may have on your GPS. I found for my car stereo, that I needed to leave it, in the "waiting/open for connection mode.
Now when I turn the car on it automatically connects the phone and stereo off my Hermes.
What I'm basically saying here is there may be a setting to leave your GPS automatically open for bluetooth connections?
I think option #1 may do the trick....
Hope this helps! Good Luck!
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Mine is set to NOT be visable to others & my bluetooth GPS device just ha a on/off button.
paul8811 said:
Mine is set to NOT be visible to others & my bluetooth GPS device just ha a on/off button.
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If your concerned about Security you can always change the Pairing codes.
and or turn off bluetooth when not needed.
I'm unaware of any cases where one can connect unless there paired, so in most cases access needs to be allowed on both ends, usually needing pairing codes. Even if it is one way, an approval code will still be needed.
What I found is this, if you want automatic connecting with one way pairing codes i.e. (Car Stereo to PDA or GPS to PDA) You'll need to allow "make device visible" checked off. The usual cause is a memory storing issue with the GPS or Car Stereo. I know that on high end Stereo's and GPS's they have on board memory which will save connection settings, where you'd put pairing codes on both ends and it will save the settings, thus negating the need to leave visible.
Don't know if I answered your question?
Hope I was able to shed some light on the subject....
Good Luck!
I opened this thread to sign here all the BT problems found on our BA using WM6.5
I'm using Radio 1.13 on WM6.5 21198. I can pair a Qstarz 51channel GPS antenna correctly, but after the pairing the device remains disconnected. After checking the Serial Port box in the device settings i'm able to tap on 'Connect', but then the BA always report 'Unable to connect, connection failed or password wrong'.
I tried with Broadcomm stack b3900 but i get an error on startup about 'Storage' file being deleted or something else.
I tried with Helmi BT stack b3400 and it works: i can pair and connect. However connection seems to be unstable and after a few i get the device disconnected automatically, i don't have even the time to set up correctly Navigon Navigator. After a SR sometimes i get 'Unable to turn on bt cous of lack of memory, try to sr... blablabla'. Sometimes i have to HR to leave this error message.
better experiences?
I never use the CONNECT in the BT Settings to connect to my Holux GPSlim236. I just Add New Device... then set the COM Port to port #6, then go to Start/Settings/Connections/External GPS ... Under the Programs tab (Select NONE), under Hardware tab (Select the COM Port you set on BT, in my case COM Port 6), on the Access tab (Mark Manage GPS Automaticaly. Then I go open whatever GPS Software I'm going to use, and it usually connects to the GPS Reciever automatically. [edit] If it doesn't connect, then I go to the settings of the GPS Software and I tell it what my GPS Reciever COM Port is. I usually have to do that with Live Search and iGO8(all though iGO8 has a search for GPS that always finds it too)[end edit] However, from the best of my memory, I have never seen my GPS listed as CONNECTED. So again, I don't think you need to try to Connect on the BT Settings page. Give it a try, hope this helps.
Another option is to contact Qstarz support and ask them how to properly set up your GPS on WM6+. They should be able to walk you through.
[Edit:] I will test tonight if I get that error message by trying to use the CONNECT funtion on BT Settings. Also, I'll see if when the BT GPS Receiver is connected, if it shows on BT Settings as CONNECTED. I'll post back my findings as an EDIT to this post.[End Edit]
<Edit> I've done some further testing as promised. Here is my finding:
*When the BTGPS Reveiver is connected to the phone, there is no indication on the BT Settings as that it is "Connected", however it is, as Live Search, Pharos, iGO8 and Google find it without any troubles.
*I tried to highlight the GPS Receiver and tap on CONNECT, but the softkey is greyed out(not available).
*I tried tap n hold over the Receiver with the same results, connect is not available.
I have not noticed any problems with Blue tooth on build 21198.
Same problem to me with Jentro BT8.
Now trying HELMI_BA_BTstack_Build 3400.CAB.
Hope this one works.
frafor said:
but after the pairing the device remains disconnected. After checking the Serial Port box in the device settings i'm able to tap on 'Connect', but then the BA always report 'Unable to connect, connection failed or password
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I am also having the same problem. Is there any fix for it. Can some one get xplode to help us with same problem
kabbab said:
I am also having the same problem. Is there any fix for it. Can some one get xplode to help us with same problem
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Read markanthonypr's and frafor's posts above. Those are the only two solutions found so far. I am currently trying out markanthony's solution and so far it seems to work. I'll have to do some further testing.
I've been able to connect my GPS using helmi's b3400 stack, the connection is far stable but i have to set up the GPS ports fast, then open Navigon Navigator because otherwise the GPS enters standby mode and it looses the connection. However in these days i'll try the new build
markanthonypr: i too use 'add new device', but after the wizard procedure the GPS is listed under 'Disconnected devices' so then i have to check 'Serial port' service and tap 'connect'. Here i get the error message.
frafor said:
I've been able to connect my GPS using helmi's b3400 stack, the connection is far stable but i have to set up the GPS ports fast, then open Navigon Navigator because otherwise the GPS enters standby mode and it looses the connection. However in these days i'll try the new build
markanthonypr: i too use 'add new device', but after the wizard procedure the GPS is listed under 'Disconnected devices' so then i have to check 'Serial port' service and tap 'connect'. Here i get the error message.
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Have you tried w/o checking the Serial Port? I don't check the serial port. I just tried what you've stated, and got the same error you are talking about. But like I said, It connects to BT GPS Receiver w/o the Serial.
markanthonypr said:
Have you tried w/o checking the Serial Port? I don't check the serial port. I just tried what you've stated, and got the same error you are talking about. But like I said, It connects to BT GPS Receiver w/o the Serial.
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Well mark, you were right on the money with your suggestion. It seems that 6.5 controls external gps devices from within that option in the settings rather than the BT console. I am using Destinator 7 with my Pharos BT GPS and aside from taking a few minutes to connect, it works like a charm once it does connect...
egzthunder1 said:
Well mark, you were right on the money with your suggestion. It seems that 6.5 controls external gps devices from within that option in the settings rather than the BT console. I am using Destinator 7 with my Pharos BT GPS and aside from taking a few minutes to connect, it works like a charm once it does connect...
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LOL well I'm glad yours is working. I tried using Frafor's method, got his same error, went back to the method I always use, and now it won't connect LOL blah... I'm sure it will after a soft reset.
Speaking of soft reset. I've been searching all over for the darn XP ShutDown and can't find it. I know its here, but, why can't search find it? I wouldn't dare to ask you to point me in the right route, would you think I had the guts to as that? "Giggling"
Edit: Oh and I did use the Search !
i attached it for you, but be aware of the fact, that this is the basic version with a very xp like look for themes and how to install them go to: http://ppcsoft.narod.ru/english/
markanthonypr said:
LOL well I'm glad yours is working. I tried using Frafor's method, got his same error, went back to the method I always use, and now it won't connect LOL blah... I'm sure it will after a soft reset.
Speaking of soft reset. I've been searching all over for the darn XP ShutDown and can't find it. I know its here, but, why can't search find it? I wouldn't dare to ask you to point me in the right route, would you think I had the guts to as that? "Giggling"
Edit: Oh and I did use the Search !
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I wouldn't dare to tell you to search... you know better than that
As far as the BT, it seems that it isn't a matter of drivers after all, but rather how 6.5 is handling them. Stick with the original drivers, I think that there are a few surprises in stock with the other BT stacks (Helmi's and broadcomm's)
Also, if I could recommend you Destinator 7, it seems to do just fine. I haven't tried Tomtom 6 or iGo 6 (all of which I used to use), but this one is very lightweight and the maps are not ridiculously big either.
Good to see you around buddy!!
Chef_Tony said:
i attached it for you, but be aware of the fact, that this is the basic version with a very xp like look for themes and how to install them go to: http://ppcsoft.narod.ru/english/
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Thank you very much Tony!
egzthunder1 said:
I wouldn't dare to tell you to search... you know better than that
As far as the BT, it seems that it isn't a matter of drivers after all, but rather how 6.5 is handling them. Stick with the original drivers, I think that there are a few surprises in stock with the other BT stacks (Helmi's and broadcomm's)
Also, if I could recommend you Destinator 7, it seems to do just fine. I haven't tried Tomtom 6 or iGo 6 (all of which I used to use), but this one is very lightweight and the maps are not ridiculously big either.
Good to see you around buddy!!
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Oh, I'm happy with iGO8 and the sexy female voice I have LOL and LiveSearch works awesome as well. They just updated again few weeks ago. Only thing I don't like about LiveSearch is it only saves 128MB on Storage Card. Everything over that gets downloaded on the spot and with the slow G connection of BA's, it can become a pain at times. But iGO8 Maps cover PR very well However, just to be nice, I'll try destinator. If you recomend it and Tony Cooks it, I'll eat it LOL
Umm btw, let me scoot to work... Later aligators
EDIT: Geez, I always have a second thought after pressing that darn Post Reply. I installed NF, its the same I had. Haven't seen any noticeable difference. A little higher build... Poofff Gone!
markanthonypr said:
<Edit> I've done some further testing as promised. Here is my finding:
*When the BTGPS Reveiver is connected to the phone, there is no indication on the BT Settings as that it is "Connected", however it is, as Live Search, Pharos, iGO8 and Google find it without any troubles.
*I tried to highlight the GPS Receiver and tap on CONNECT, but the softkey is greyed out(not available).
*I tried tap n hold over the Receiver with the same results, connect is not available.
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well, when i'll flash to new build then i'll try this thanks
nothing to do, the GPS connects (1second flashing blu light), then the BA stucks on the passphrase window with the wait cursor, the GPS disconnects (fixed blue light) and then it enables standby mode...
frafor said:
nothing to do, the GPS connects (1second flashing blu light), then the BA stucks on the passphrase window with the wait cursor, the GPS disconnects (fixed blue light) and then it enables standby mode...
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I use TomTom Bluetooth GPS and have not faced this issue.
Chef_Tony said:
i attached it for you, but be aware of the fact, that this is the basic version with a very xp like look for themes and how to install them go to: http://ppcsoft.narod.ru/english/
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psShutXP is a bit annoying. I use this cab to soft reset & power off which is quite ideal for WM6.5 start menu I have repacked the cab files.
I've got the same problem and I think this is a problem GPS with MTK chipset. I've try 2 diferent GPS (qstarz and pentagram ) with MTK chipset and bouth work correctly only with WM2003 or on WM 5/6 from helmi with Helmi BT Stack 1,7.
With many ROMs GPS connect corectly and work to soft reset. After reset GPS connect for 1-2 sek and disconnect. It doesnt mater setting in GPS devices so i thing this is problem with receving BT data in our devices.
Also I try GPS from nokia LW-3 (or something like this) with sirfstar III and it connect without problem with diferent ROMS
I have a different problem since upgrading to Xplode's WM6.5 v21202...
I have working connections (not all at the same time) to three BT devices; Qstarz 51 ch gps, my old Tomtom BT gps, and the Stowaway (Think Outside) BT keyboard. All exhibit the same problem:
After a few minutes the connection seems to go and the device loses communication. It will then reconnect and continue fine for a while then same loss as before. This is particularly annoying when I'm using Tomtom to navigate!
I have not set up a serial connection for the Tomtom gps but did so for the Qstarz and keyboard. they all have the same comms loss.
I also have another BA running WM6.1 and this is fine with the devices...
Any suggestions please?
Thanks
Stevemann said:
I have a different problem since upgrading to Xplode's WM6.5 v21202...
I have working connections (not all at the same time) to three BT devices; Qstarz 51 ch gps, my old Tomtom BT gps, and the Stowaway (Think Outside) BT keyboard. All exhibit the same problem:
After a few minutes the connection seems to go and the device loses communication. It will then reconnect and continue fine for a while then same loss as before. This is particularly annoying when I'm using Tomtom to navigate!
I have not set up a serial connection for the Tomtom gps but did so for the Qstarz and keyboard. they all have the same comms loss.
I also have another BA running WM6.1 and this is fine with the devices...
Any suggestions please?
Thanks
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Try a different BT stack. Some people have reported improvement in certain areas of functionality. However, everything comes at a price... the same people have reported that the range stinks. You will not be able to get much further than a couple of feet from your BA. Hope this helps...
Hi,
I tried several forum-internal as well as google-wide scans, but could not find any answers to my question. strange and I'm really curious on your answers.
How do I normally disable/enable GPS....I mean similar to WiFi?
I have TomTom and it works like a charm, but my fear is that GPS is ON all day long and I have no way to check/know if it still working at full level?
My only guess is that it automatically recognizes datatransfer and activates whenever serial transfer is starting.
Please let me know, btw. I installed WinMob6.5 (Touch IT).
Cheers
Norbert
njordan said:
Hi,
t automatically recognizes datatransfer and activates whenever serial transfer is starting.
Norbert
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Hi, you're right. GPS is usually disabled. It gets enabled (i.e. the internal port gets opened) by programs that communicate to the X1 that they need to access to GPS hardware. So, if your TomTom is 24/24 on, your GPS will be too. Otherwise, don't worry!
P.S.: try gtrab's HTC GPS, it's here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=516208
It lets you open and close the GPS port.