I have a T-Mobile MDA Touch 256 (HTC Elfin 300) which I'm using on a Pay-as-you-Go with T-Mobile UK. Whenever I check my phone's recent usage online via "My T-Mobile" I note that every 7-15 minutes it has made a quick data connection for which I get charged for between 1 and 3KB or 1-3 pence. Here's a sample:
Date/Time__________Number Called___Type________________Volume__Cost
27/11/2008 14:19:28 1000 TMO Network Coupon 2101 QOS1000 2 Kb £0.02
27/11/2008 14:07:37 1000 TMO Network Coupon 2101 QOS1000 2 Kb £0.02
27/11/2008 13:51:13 1000 TMO Network Coupon 2101 QOS1000 2 Kb £0.02
27/11/2008 13:44:54 1000 TMO Network Coupon 2101 QOS1000 3 Kb £0.03
27/11/2008 13:26:57 1000 TMO Network Coupon 2101 QOS1000 1 Kb £0.01
27/11/2008 13:19:50 1000 TMO Network Coupon 2101 QOS1000 2 Kb £0.02
27/11/2008 13:04:51 1000 TMO Network Coupon 2101 QOS1000 3 Kb £0.03
27/11/2008 12:49:52 1000 TMO Network Coupon 2101 QOS1000 2 Kb £0.02
I have gone through every setting on the phone's programs I can find to ensure nothing is automatically connecting. Have checked email accounts (all set to manual connect only), Weather & Currency utilities (again set to manual updates only).... but just cannot find what is causing these automated connects. It's driving me crazy!!
Only way I can find to prevent this happening is to go into the Touch's Comm Manager and switch off the "Data Connection" option, but it seems that the phone automatically switches that back on again after a short interval
Can anyone suggest what it might be that's making these repeated quick data connections, and how I can stop it - or how I can keep the phones data connection option off when I don't need it?
(By the way, I don't want to disable data connection permanently, as I do need to occasionally be able to check my email from the phone when travelling).
Cheers
I use MoDaCo NoData - and enable the data connection only when I am requiring the data connection via GPRS.
deswong said:
I use MoDaCo NoData - and enable the data connection only when I am requiring the data connection via GPRS.
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Sorry, you've lost me I'm non techy.
What is "MoDaCo NoData"??
Is that a setting or some code I should enter somewhere in my phone? If so, would appreciate clarification, thanks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=447768
Install this app and do what I've written. To check which apps are connecting, install Spb Wireless Monitor 3. Maybe HTC Home's weather?
Thanks gronostaj. I installed Schap's Advanced Configuration Tool and can now turn off data connection to stop the unwanted connections. As per your recommendation I also installed Spb Wireless Monitor 3 but it did not give me a sufficient breakdown of the exact program that was connecting. Think it just said "system" or something similar which was no help.
Anyway, with Schap's Advanced Configuration Tool I can now control this issue, so thanks again
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I tried the Spb GPRS monitor, both the version that came with my Qtek 9100 and their newest version and niether work. If i connect to GPRS and then immediately disconnect without using any internet app, the monitor records 100kb of data used. I have a 1mb service with my provider and if i connect and disconnect 10 times, Spb shows i have exceeded my montly allowence and shows over 1mb used. If i log into my account with my mobile provider, I actually only used a total of about 20kb for the whole day. So this program doesn't work.
Are there any others out there. I am not as concerned with how much money i have spent but intead just want to know the actual kilobytes used for the month.
Are you sure you don't have data block size set to 100KB? Because if there is any traffic it will then jump to 100K and stay there until you pass 100K on that session.
I think that 100K may even be the default.
No, it was set smaller than that. i had it at the smallest setting. During the actual session it would show 12kb...26kb...etc. until I disconnected, then it would jump to 100kb. If i just connected and disconnected without using an app, it would automatically register 100kb.
I've tried programs like nodata, but they wont run correctly for some reason. Whats the easiest way to disable gprs so I won't get charged an insane amount when I accidently dont connect to wifi.
The easiest way is to set up a new connection with settings that don't exist -- such as:
Name of Connection -- "WiFi"
APN -- "home'
Username -- "HOME"
Password -- "HOME"
Don't set any proxy service or enter any DNS info. Before switching on the WiFi, go into the Connections and switch to your fake network. Exit out and turn on WiFi.
Odd. Nodata worked for me. At any rate, the best way to ensure no added charge if you do not have a data plan is to call and block that service to your phone. I did it for all four phones on my family plan.
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Odd. Nodata worked for me. At any rate, the best way to ensure no added charge if you do not have a data plan is to call and block that service to your phone. I did it for all four phones on my family plan.
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I was going to do that, but the cs rep i talked to said I wouldnt be able to do text messaging if i did that.
Ah. I don't text message either. Sorry.
its been posted before, but i wanted to clarify, so dont yell at me... (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=325973)
I dont suscribe to data, but want to use wi fi. so if i use that no data thing, is it possible?
thanks
aurash
at times i would just airplane mode at times and just use wifi, even for calls. So yeah you can do that...
so wifi on the verizon mogul is free and nothing will be charged to me for using it. (I dont have the data plan)
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so wifi on the verizon mogul is free and nothing will be charged to me for using it. (I dont have the data plan)
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If you don't have a data block, you run the risk of of connecting to EvDo and getting charged 'pay as you go'.
But then there was a change to the data plan about a month ago and I hear it is now nearly impossible to NOT have a real data plan.
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If you don't have a data block, you run the risk of of connecting to EvDo and getting charged 'pay as you go'.
But then there was a change to the data plan about a month ago and I hear it is now nearly impossible to NOT have a real data plan.
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yeah thats what ive heard. It seems like if you want a ppc or smartphone that your have to get the data package to even get the phone. thanks for the quick response.
This is something I banged out for a couple of Sprint users, but it covers the basics of what you have to do for other carriers as well:
http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=180141
I just switched from Qwest to Verizon and got upgraded to the 6800 from the 6700. To get around the data plan you can use the pay as you go just change the dial up number to anything but #777 and you never connect to the network and don't get charged.
I dont have a data plan either. I use the wifi all the time. the main reason I got this phone was for the wifi capability. I am curious how to use it uner flight mode because it never lets me..
Completely disable 3g data connections forever, and still use wifi
This is my first contribution to xda-forums! I'm glad I can help at all when I've benefitted so much... Thanks to all!
NOTE: After the following steps, Modaco's Nodata doesn't even register that a data connection exists! For this reason, if you occasionally use 3g, you probably will want to use Nodata, and NOT the following solution. You just might have to open Nodata and disable the data connection every time you soft-reset.
I was finally able to completely 100% block the 3g data connection on my Verizon XV6800 (aka Mogul aka Titan) was the following three steps:
1. The key culprit is HTC_CM_Guardian.exe in the windows directory. I couldn't edit it or delete it via Total Commander file explorer, but I was able to rename it! This makes the OS unable to find the program when it tries to re-set the Data connection settings.
2. Under Settings > Connections > Connections > Advanced > "Select which networks are automatically used," hit "Select Networks."
3. Under "Programs that automatically connect to the Internet should connect using:" hit "New...".
4. Enter any name you want (mine's "nodata!") and leave all the other settings blank.
5. To be safe, you may have to delete the Verizon Or "Internet" Connection on the Tasks Tab of Settings > Connections > Connections. Save and exit.
Voila! Wifi, yes; 3g, no! No more nasty billing surprises.
Modaco's Nodata program is awesome, but the problem was that HTC_CM_Guardian.exe re-enabled the data connection every time I reset the phone. Plus, HTC_CM_Guardian.exe would also thwart any effort to block data via the "Connection Settings." By renaming HTC_CM_Guardian.exe and creating a "nodata!" connection that programs auto-connecting to the internet would try to use (and fail), we get three results:
1. Modaco's Nodata doesn't even register that a data connection exists! For this reason, if you occasionally use 3g, you probably won't to use this solution.
2. When you reboot, the OS is unable to mess-up your "Connection Settings", so
3. Unless you have an active wifi connection, programs will try to connect to the Internet using the "nodata!" settings, which, being empty, will fail, exactly as planned.
Hope it helps.
simple solution
It's a lot easier to check the "use dialing rules" box. I had a HTC Touch that I used this on and when I lost that, went to a Mogul. I love the wifi on it! I worked as a ATS rep for Sprint for 5 years and half the time when a windows phone would not connect to vision, it was the checked dialing rules box or a wrong number like the customer's own number instead of the dialing string. I tried just deleting the dialing string but even a soft reset caused the phone to recreate the #777 as well as the phone as modem #777. I hated the phone connecting on it's own, bumping the wrong button in my pocket, and I know this will work every time. EVDO data transfer charges without a plan will cap at $75 now but still why take the chance? If you absolutely have to get on the web and there's no wifi around, break down, call *2 and add a $15 vision plan, do what you need to like find a location with Live search then cancel it the next day. The plan will be prorated from when you added it to when it was cancelled. The only hitch is you have to allow your device to IOTA successfully while in a Sprint service area once to get the data settings in the phone which entails the data transfer again. Ahhh, I'm liking the wifi more and more......
HTC 6800 wm 6.1
HTC 6900 wm 6.1
Philips VELO win ce 1.0
Isn't it possible to set up the phone to ONLY do the automatic send/receive of mail at an interval when there is a WiFi connection available?
I want to keep the option of being able to use GPRS for sending/receiving, but only when I manually choose to do so. I don't want to automatically pay for GPRS data tranfers every x minutes!
I have TyTN WM6.
Regards,
Allan Jensen
Might be. If you use MoDaCo's NoData you can shut off the grps data.
Set the wifi on.
Every time you put the phone out of standby it should check it. I have a feeling if it was a scheduled update that wouldn't work to well.
Unfortunately the wm software is designed to use the grps as the primary data, as wifi shuts off when in standby... could get tricky...
Perhaps this can get you started in the right direction.
BTW, what carrier are you on? Do you have an unlimited data package?
a little trick a Tech Support guy at Rogers taught me is to delete the password and uncheck the SAVE PASSWORD in the gprs settings....
this way I know when its trying to connect to the internet or not,
Up here in Canada Rogers realllllly takes you over the barell for data rates.
I currently have a plan that gives me a WHOPPING 5 megs a month
this privilege costs me $20 a month... and oh yea if I go over 5meg a month its $0.05 a KB. Thanks Rogers!
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Try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316696&highlight=automatic+sync
You can set the connection to be wi-fi only.
You can set time when to automatically send and receive mails.
I am using this with my touch, tytn (WM6) and Universal (WM6).
I have O2 unlimited web bolton on my account but for some reason O2 swapped it back to unlimited text bolton. I mange to change it back to unlimited web bolton.
I observed on my bill that everyday there is usage of around 30 to 50 kb of data on my account.
I have connected my HD with WIFI and Data communication is off. But of some reason, Data communication automatically gets on and hence I think it try to do something and everyday their is data usage.
Can anyone tell me how to stop Data communciation started automatically.
You can turn it off using the advanced configuration tool. Just do a search and download it.
I have advance configuration tool. Can you point me to a particular setting
It should be under Data connections.
Thanks, I found it. It is under Menu --->More Settings ---> Connections