I've just bought a slightly used Mda Vario II,
but i have some troubles with the battery. i fully charged the battery (i suppose 15 hours)and when i checked the led was green. so i began to use my new device. but after 4 hours the battery was empty.
i'd remove the battery and placed it back in the device. and it boots.
with 20% battery and it lasts for i suppose an hour. then it shuts down again and if i do the same it starts again with 10% good for a half hour.
is this a common problem? is my battery dead? does someone has a solution?
Depends what you do with it. If you are using it a lot, depending on what you use, it could be normal. If its in standby with minimal use, a few calls/txt/mms/email, then it may be the battery needs replacing.
Charging the battery should only take 2-3 hours, NOT 15 unless you are using a non standard charger, even then 15 hours is excessive (unless you mean you left it overnight).
I'd look at replacing the battery, if you know someone with the same phone you might be able to borrow their battery to test. Test your battery in theirs and their battery in yours.Only thing I could think to try...
Cheers...
Thanks for the fast respond,
i am using 3g the whole day. automatic recieve email every 5 minutes.
furthermore i'm an average user i think.
how many hours can you use your tytn?
From what I hear 3G eats a lot of power. 4 hours sounds pretty good if you are having it on all the time. A 3G iPhone doesn't do better! I don't use 3G on mine but I am a heavy user. Data connection (EDGE) on all the time, Bluetooth always on, use it as an mp3 player, take about 3 hrs of phone calls, and surf the web. I don't let mine drain all the way down (leave it plugged in the car and at my desk) and I carry 3 batteries as spares. I'd say a battery might last about 9-10 hrs. if I didn't plug it in. I'm sure if I had 3G, it would be about 4-5. Of course it depends on your battery size as well...
If you aren't actively downloading/surfing the web, why not just turn off 3G until you need to use it?
Also need to remember that its not good tolet the battery discharge lower than 10%. People have had problems where the phone then doesn't recognise the battery is plugged in when trying to recharge. If you are gonna keep downloading emails on 3g all the time, it might be worthwhile to invest in another battery or two as vwkess does.
I tend to get a day or 2 out of my battery but I download my emails through activesync when at home or the office. Gives my battery a longer life and is easier and cheaper as Oz doesn't have unlimited data plans that are "reasonable".
Also would suggest getting a Larger capacity battery if lugging around a couple of extra batterries is too much of a pain. Though depending on what size you get it can make your Hermes larger. I have a 1650 Mah but you can get 3000 Mah batterries. Its up to you...
Cheers...
Thanks for the reply's!
I have a original 1350mAh battery.
And EDGE isn't supported in the netherlands.
Is it possible to switch between 3G and GPRS?
So i can set the phone to GPRS when i'm not using internet.
Will a 1500mAh battery last longer? or is it better to pick a even larger battery?
Yes, you should be able to turn off 3G in the Comm manager and just turn it on when you need it. 1500 will last a little longer, probably a couple of hours depending on usage.
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What is the average battery life most people are getting from their devices? The reason for asking I beleive that my battery life has reduced drastically, I'm averaging 36hours. I do not use it as a phone, the Wifi & bluetooth is switch off, the unit is used for push email only and I receive about 20 emails per day, very little WEB browsing.
I'm sure my battery life was a lot better when I took delivery of the unit.
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What is the average battery life most people are getting from their devices? The reason for asking I beleive that my battery life has reduced drastically, I'm averaging 36hours. I do not use it as a phone, the Wifi & bluetooth is switch off, the unit is used for push email only and I receive about 20 emails per day, very little WEB browsing.
I'm sure my battery life was a lot better when I took delivery of the unit.
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Mmmmm.. well I'd consider 36 hours fantastic but then it sounds as if I use mine a lot more for wifi, surfing, phone etc. than you. Perhaps an hour to hour and a half per day and charge once per day but will usually have 40/50% charge left I did see a post from someone saying with reasonably heavy use they could only get 8hrs.
Mike
i use mine mostly for data.. in a 3G area i average about an 9.2% loss per hour.. in a edge area i am averaging about 1.7% loss per hour... these are all estimates since the battery meter only goes by 10's
I am fairly certain that the 3G is eating power. I get a full days work out of it with a lot of phone calls, push email, BT always on, and occasional WiFi usage. I am almost always in 3G, I very rarely lose it and only when at a clients far away.
Later, Lew
BTW, A full days work for me is 9am to 3am.
3G is the problem. Consider switching to 3G via MortScript as described in another thread. Personally, I use the GPRS only setting for normal use. PushMail would consume a lot less energy with GPRS and the speed isn't such an issue for mails in my opinion. Whenever I'm willing to browse the net a bit more, I switch to 3G before doing so (takes ca. 15s via the script) and when done, I go back to the less battery eating and more reliable (for taking phone calls etc.) GSM only mode.
You will definately at least double the runtime of your Hermes. I can do 5 days (phone on at night, little use) by doing so.
Well I can confirm that 3G is the cause, as suggested I've switched to GSM and battery life is a lot better.
3rd charge i managed to get nearly 2 days, had a 4 hr gprs web session last night on minimum brightness and still had 30% battery this morning.
if the battery goes to 0% what happens? data loss or just turns off?
jonr said:
3rd charge i managed to get nearly 2 days, had a 4 hr gprs web session last night on minimum brightness and still had 30% battery this morning.
if the battery goes to 0% what happens? data loss or just turns off?
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Other than any document/application open at time of shut down you should be ok, not like my old Clie that looses everything that's not screwed down on the storage card. In fact quite often I deliberately remove the battery for a while if I reckon it may help with a lock up (normally due to some rubbish downloaded freebie!!). All saved programmes to Device memory and card remain in tact.
Mike
Using my TYTN for email (check every 30 minutes), newsgroups (check every 30 minutes) and reading both every 2 hours.
Also using the phone for lots of browsing.
And i am also using my phone for making some phonecalls over the day (with and without bluetooth carkit), i get to use my phone for about 16 to 18 hours without need for a recharge.
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How do you enable auto email send and receive?
Cant find the option anywhere
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if you add an email account to your tytn you get the option advanced at the end of the settings. if you click it you will get the option to send/receive at a standard timeperiod.
I use UMTS for email and web browsing continuosly for 2 hours and I'm down to 10% after a full night charge. It's pathetic.
Your device is broke, or your battery is defective. Seriously, if you have a warranty, act on it.
Later, Lew
lewcamino said:
Your device is broke, or your battery is defective. Seriously, if you have a warranty, act on it.
Later, Lew
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i dont know about that.. everyone seems to be getting around the same battery life... i would bet that if i used mine on umts continously for 2 hours i would be close to the same drain, UMTS sucks alot of battery
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i dont know about that.. everyone seems to be getting around the same battery life... i would bet that if i used mine on umts continously for 2 hours i would be close to the same drain, UMTS sucks alot of battery
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that's true and umts sucks a lot of power. i am using mine on umts in tokyo and i can only get 10 to 12 hours. i use it mostly for push email (about 80 emails), an hour of browsing and some phone calls a day. i've ended up purchasing mugen's 3000mah one to get through the day without recharging.
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Your device is broke, or your battery is defective. Seriously, if you have a warranty, act on it.
Later, Lew
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I highly doubt it as I have two 8525 and both of them will be at 10% with 2 hours of continuous use.
Well I'm on my 2nd battery.First one was replaced under warranty as I was getting about 8hrs with very little usage.
I'm on my third charge with the new battery. The first & second charges have given me about 15hrs.
Agent said I should be getting 4hrs talk time and if the second battery is also [email protected] then they will replace the phone. So I'm monitoring until next week.
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Well I'm on my 2nd battery.First one was replaced under warranty as I was getting about 8hrs with very little usage.
I'm on my third charge with the new battery. The first & second charges have given me about 15hrs.
Agent said I should be getting 4hrs talk time and if the second battery is also [email protected] then they will replace the phone. So I'm monitoring until next week.
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This may not apply to you (as you probably know it already!), but Windows Mobile does not shut down programmes when you click the x in top right corner. To ensure you are not unknowingly running lots of applications in the background you need to use a programme that really shuts applications down properly - e.g. Magicbutton or HTC X Button. This can save considerably on both battery power and performance.
Mike
Mike, I'm using Magicbutton and make sure all apps are closed all the time. I've read a lot about the UTMS connection on all the time draining battery. I've just downloaded this app: http://www.gb-soft.cz/XDAII/product_gprs_tweak_wm5pe_en.htm
See if this works and extends battery.
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Mike, I'm using Magicbutton and make sure all apps are closed all the time. I've read a lot about the UTMS connection on all the time draining battery. I've just downloaded this app: http://www.gb-soft.cz/XDAII/product_gprs_tweak_wm5pe_en.htm
See if this works and extends battery.
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Had a quick look at your link and yip, looks good going to try it as well.
Mike
Now, I know that it depends on what programs are running, like... whether you have any minimized or in the background, but on an average 1500 mAh/3.7V battery... what is the amount of use time that one can expect...?
Let's start a thread on this subject... listing the type of battery, approximate age of same, the names of the files/programs you run & use in a given day, and the amount of hours of overall use you get before you have to recharge or switch it over to a new/fresh battery. This way, we'll all have a better idea as to what programs really drain the phones, such as when you leave the WiFi and/or Bluetooth "on" all the time - waiting to be used (a sure guarantee to have a dead battery in a matter of hours).
We can subtitle this one under "The Cost of Staying Connected" (not including air-time charges or monthly fees).
i think my battery life is terrible... but its understandable. usually i run wifi and phone all day long.. the only reason i run wifi on all the time is because i have a feeling everytime i don't... somehow i get charged for using evdo (from bell in canada)... but i dont?? its really weird because i used to always get these random charges.. but ever since i kept my wifi on all day everything is all good. i have the original battery that came with my ppc 6700.. and i use the phone around 40-70 minutes of talk time. no real apps running but a few games of solitaire here and there. but if i were to talk non stop it only seems to last like 1hr
my battery life is like 10 hours and i always have to charge it when i get home from work or school or ill be doomed the next day
Since upgrading to WM6 (thanks helmi), my battery life has found NEW life. I used to have to charge it everyday: no wifi, 50% brightness, screen off in < 1min, etc. Since upgrading, I can run it at 100% brightness, screen off in 2min, and I don't have to charge it every day.
This is with the factory battery, and an eBay replacement sometimes used.
always running: freestyl (flashlite), sms threader, mbutton
phone is usually locked with s2u2
most use it usually gets is me checking the time
update rom from verizon, .net 3.5
ever since i updated the rom, it seems like i only get <24 hours per full charge (battery purchased less than a month ago)
w/o wifi or bt i get about 3 days however it depends on what version of windows are you running have you guys updated to the new 6.1 or 6.5 biulds?
My battery life its very short but, i use my apache with core play at my car with my kids plus the wifi, and blue with hand free, soo i've to conected every day, and i'm use 2batterys
original battery... i got 3 days on standby.. and 2 days in normal call usage...
but
with wifi my battery gets drained to the bone in 40 minutes LOL
thats all =D
About twenty minutes. I know I need a new battery >_>
... that and that I'm surprised I've got over 240 hours clocked in the lifetime call timer.
Using a 2600mAh 3.7v Battery
I had my extended battery for about 2 months now.....
TCPMP:Battery life is close to 5 hours on the lowest brightness level using headphones & on speaker mode I get about 3 1/2 hours.
Making Calls: I sometimes spend about 2 to 3 hours on the phone & that leaves the battery to about 70% or 60%.
Wifi: I don't use it for a very long time, but when I do it could be about 1 hour and that can leave my battery to about 80% to 70% when done.
Videogames: I use mainly the Morpheus(emu) usually about 20 to 30 mins and only seems to leave it close to 90%..
With random use I normally have to charge the battery every 2 or 3 days... I play with the phone quite a bit tho! Mostly text messaging (turning it on & off about 20 to 30 times daily).
With my 2 normal batteries? I think they need to be discarded soon lol!!!!!!! Wifi will deplete them(each) in about 4 or 5 mins tops!!! TCPMP about 10mins(screen on at its lowest with speaker) & 15 mins max(with headphones & screen at its lowest brightness)... Phone Calls? about 20mins tops(with the screen turned off)!!!!
So.... I strongly recommend the extended battery on Ebay for about $22(shipping included) so that you can enjoy the phone alot more!!!
I try not to keep the phone on the charger until the battery has depleted to about 20% when the warning comes on and fully charge it always!
Hi,
In the last month or two my battery is losing capacity. I can drain out the battery in half a day, when I am working a lot on Athena, for example HSDPA, reboot, phone calls (1h),... but this was not a case before. Usually with “normal” usage I could get the Athena running for a couple of days (3, sometimes 4). Now, when watching a movie or making a phone call the battery drains out about 10 to 20% in couple of minutes. Sometimes it goes from 30% to 5% in just a few minutes. Yes, BT is on always, Wifi amost never. I turn off the data connection completely when I stop using it. All in all the battery is new empty in a day or in a day and a half.
I am really handling my battery with care – so I think. I usually charge it when it is almost or completely drain out and then charge it fully. Athena is 1.5years old with OEM battery.
Is there any way to check the battery capacity or a application which will monitor consumption (or a electrical current)? (I think I read somewhere of such a application??). What do you suggest?
Thx,
Uros
P.s. A recently switched from irus 0mb PP ROM to michy's 4.1 ROM. I find no difference in battery consumption...
Is it possible some application is turning on Wifi or GPS? Either will kill the battery within hours.
However, with 1.5 years on the battery I think your problem is age. I think others on here have had issues after a year. I'm coming up on a year next month and already notice a slight decrease in capacity. Try buying a new battery, worst case you have it as a spare.
Hello,
I understand people complain about the battery and search around here for issues regarding it and find many.
But mine seems to be shockingly bad. I have HSDPA on, weather, stock updates every 4 hours, twitter every hour, and tend to use Palringo on constantly (maybe this is the issue?). With about 2 hours of FM Radio, maybe an hour of music... the phones battery only lasts for about 7 hours which is not great.
Is this about right for the phone? Or is this shockingly bad compared to others? Its hard to quantify from searching about what the "par" for this device really is.
This is not much, but not shockingly bad. Have you enabled the power saving mode in Palringo?
(I actually don't know what it does, but there is one )
Palringo and beejive on my HD2 sucked the battery like a over active dyson vacuum cleaner!
Nimbuzz seems to be better for battery life but not perfect.
On sunday I managed to kill my battery <5 hours so 7 hours is better than what I get sometimes
another post. geeee
i had asus p750 which battery last for a day or so with minimal usage
i had se w910i while only on 2-3h of phone calls i had to charge the battery every 36 hours
i had an iphone 3g which i had to charge every 2 days with very gentle using
a friend of mine is using htc mda something with the hardware keyboard and has to charge the phone every day
anyway - i can charge my hd2 every night if necessary - it is a very good phone anyway
That might explain it then
I can appreciate that hammering the data connection or whatever Palringo does will not do the battery much good sadly. anyone else use Palringo and get better battery life?
I have the power / data saving mode enabled, although as you said, quite what that does I dont know
Thanks for the replies....
My HD2 is significantly better than my T-Mobile G1 I had previously - that phone definitely needed charging every day and I hardly used it really. I get a good 2-3 days with light usage from the HD2.
I had the same poor batter life before when I first had it. But last couple of days I finally realized that it's the 3G data connection sucking the battery life like nothing. No I only enable data connection whenever there's no wifi for me. But I keep the WiFi on constantly with push mail. The battery life lasts almost about 2 days. So I'm more than satisfied with it now. The iphone/ipod touch needs to be charged every single day mind you. So my advice is to avoid data connection whenever possible since wifi doesn't really suck much battery juice it seems.
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In my case using palringo the battery drain is 8 % per hour. Without palringo running is 4% so double battery life. I ve repeated the test many times with same result...
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In my case using palringo the battery drain is 8 % per hour. Without palringo running is 4% so double battery life. I ve repeated the test many times with same result...
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Thanks mate, this is exactly what I was hoping to get confirmed. I'm seeing something similar, I guess short of not using Palringo there isnt much to do. I do have a charger on my desk at work, so I'll just plug it in.
Interesting I did see that with it plugged in charging and turned on (set to Disk Drive mode) at work the charge barely increased 1% over a period of an hour or so. (I did check that the option to not charge when connected was not ticked). So it wasnt that, just caught me by surprise as it seems it barely charged.
Hello, Im noticing that the battery charge is too short.
I disconnected it from the computer (battery at 100%) at 23:00. Inmediately put it on fly mode (all services disconnected, low battery consumption). When I wake up at 9 o'clock, the battery was like 60% (and disconnected fly mode). Now, at 11, the battery is like 40%...
Yay, I usually charge it every night... I don't want to charge it twice/day.
I don't know if trophy have now battery problems or is just wp7.
Anyone with the same problem?
If you just got your phone, I think the battery was not run in yet. I have the same problem for the first 3 charge. Now battery life is slightly better than my old omnia 2 which last me 12-14 hours as I am a heavy user.
It have like 15 charges. It usually takes longer to uncharge, but not today, I will test it more days.
Thanks for you reply.
Sounds like there could be something wrong with it. Mine is a lot better than the HD2. I'm not a heavy user, but I get like an hour of music/radio on the way to work, then a few calls and SMSs during the day, an hour of music/radio on the way home - and it's still on like 70% when I set it to charge before bed time.
Update: seems location services cut the battery life in half. MS needs to do something about it to make it more efficient.
battery ??
How can i check how many % of my battery left
I've charged my Trophy about 4 times and the last time i overcharged just like in formating a battery ( i know the bqattery in Trophy doesn't require it but I can't hurt can it??).
The last time I charged it was on the new years eve just before midnight between 22-23. Now the battery has been showing the "critical battery mode" thingy for about two hours. I admit that I am not a heavy user however per day I make couple of phone calls, I make a few SMS and use the 3G mobile network/ WiFi(if available) to check internet write a mail, Facebook etc. and about 30 minutes / per day of music...( need to say that I don;t use the standard phones which came out of the box but Seenheiser 515HD model )
I have set the 3G and mobile data etc off, the brightness level to automatic, set the theme to dark etc. to save the battery as much as I can.