HTC Touch - Newbie - Help - Touch GSM General

Hi guys,
Welcome me to the family of HTC and WinMO. I bought HTC Touch yesterday and felt I am on the top of the world. It is purely exhilarating. The features, touch screen, touch flo, awesome. This is my first WinMO and Touchy.
I need some clarifications,
1. How should I bring the big digital clock in my desktop. Now I have a normal clock with hands. I tapped on it and holded for few secs, I then get the clock settings but no where can see the digital clock makeover.(Googled and tried).
I also tried to go to Start > Settings > Today > Items, removed TouchGlo and enabled HTCHome, stil same, enabled both, stil same and vice versa, stil same.
Please help me out in getting the digital clock.
2. I connected my HTC to my laptop in order to transfer music and wallpapers. But I need everything to be transferred to the card and not to the Phone. But I dunno where to put all the files in the card since it is not having any defined folders for music, pics.
Should I put it just in the card or should I create separate folders?
3. One step further, I always mod my mobile, like I do for my Sony. Heard the same thing is possible in WinMO too. Can any1 point me to a tutorial so I can cook my HTC too the extreme??
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[email protected] said:
Hi guys,
Welcome me to the family of HTC and WinMO. I bought HTC Touch yesterday and felt I am on the top of the world. It is purely exhilarating. The features, touch screen, touch flo, awesome. This is my first WinMO and Touchy.
I need some clarifications,
1. How should I bring the big digital clock in my desktop. Now I have a normal clock with hands. I tapped on it and holded for few secs, I then get the clock settings but no where can see the digital clock makeover.(Googled and tried).
I also tried to go to Start > Settings > Today > Items, removed TouchGlo and enabled HTCHome, stil same, enabled both, stil same and vice versa, stil same.
Please help me out in getting the digital clock.
2. I connected my HTC to my laptop in order to transfer music and wallpapers. But I need everything to be transferred to the card and not to the Phone. But I dunno where to put all the files in the card since it is not having any defined folders for music, pics.
Should I put it just in the card or should I create separate folders?
3. One step further, I always mod my mobile, like I do for my Sony. Heard the same thing is possible in WinMO too. Can any1 point me to a tutorial so I can cook my HTC too the extreme??
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What device do you have specifically - HTC Touch Elf or Vogue
1. I have checked my settings on HTC touch Elfin and could not find how to change to Analogue clock - Mine is already digital - Perhaps check out HHC - HTC Home customizer which is available for free on this site
2. I created a seperate folder for music and movies on my storage card and just manually transfer them over to the folder on my storage card either through active sinc or using WIFI or Bluetooth. I havn't tried automatic sincronization of music into music folder - Don't know if you can to the storage card anyways.
3. To point you in the right direction you need to be specific as to which device you actually have. HTC Touch is not specific - Touch Vogue, Elf or Elfin - Or even Touch Diamond - Touch Pro, Touch Dual etc.....the ROM's you will try are device specific and if you flash the wrong ROM you could brick your device

Just install Manilla2D in development and hacking section your phone will rock then they will think you have the Touch Diamond

^^ thanks for the replies..here is the hardware and firmware details shown in my phone,
Windows Mobile 6.1 Pro
CE OS 5.2.19972
Processor: OMAP850-201MHz
ROM Version: 3.07.720.03 WWE
Radio version: 03.34.90
Protocol version: 4.1.13.71
Model No: ELF0100
Hope the above details are enuf.
@Sulten
Will Manilla2D work for the above detailed phone?? If yes, please let me know how to install it since I am newbie and do not want to brick my new phone.
Also one more query what is the 'CUBE'??? Is it available in my phone?? How to see it?
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Cube : just swipe your finger upward from bottom of screen and up then side to side to rotate cube. These instructions should be in your owners manual. I suggest really learning more about your device and how to use it before flashing any ROM's. I suggest you start with other applications (CAB's) to install on your device to customize since most can easily be uninstalled if they don't function properly. Once you have done a lot of reading and understand your device better, then if you wish, you can tackle flashing a new ROM. I personally haven't even flashed a custom ROM yet onto my device, but am starting to get tempted. I havn't done enough reading on it yet to even try or offer any advice in that area

hotrod101 said:
Cube : just swipe your finger upward from bottom of screen and up then side to side to rotate cube. These instructions should be in your owners manual. I suggest really learning more about your device and how to use it before flashing any ROM's. I suggest you start with other applications (CAB's) to install on your device to customize since most can easily be uninstalled if they don't function properly. Once you have done a lot of reading and understand your device better, then if you wish, you can tackle flashing a new ROM. I personally haven't even flashed a custom ROM yet onto my device, but am starting to get tempted. I havn't done enough reading on it yet to even try or offer any advice in that area
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I am not able to bring the CUBE into action!! Is it available in my version of phone??? I am not able to find any word with CUBE in the owners manual too. Should I do the above steps from the Home screen or???
@Sulten
Which version of Manilla will work for my version??? Pls advice.

I am desperate..pls any1 help

[email protected] said:
I am desperate..pls any1 help
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Don't
First read and download this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=418892 so you can give useful info on your device, then spend a few days reading the different elf forums to know what you want and then decide what to do. There's no point calling for help in general, you have to state what is your prob .
Based on what you already said if you want the cube DON' T disable touchflo, this is it !!!
Welcome to the club (we are all newbies here)

^^thnx m8..I already d/l that file..now used it and below are the complete details abt my HTC,
Touch version : Elfin
Device ID : ELF010050
CID : DOPOD001
IPL : 3.07.0002
SPL : 3.07.0000
ROM Version : 3.07.720.03
AKU Version : 1.2.7
Page Pool : 12 MB
RAM Size : 128 MB
ROM Size : 256 MB
Model No. : ELF0100
Hope this helps!!!
Today I went to a mall and looked at a HTC Touch displayed thr for sale..That touch phone had the digital clock in it..out of curiosity I checked the settings, today, items. There was no TouchFLO and only HTCHome was present and selected. But in my version, TouchFLO is selected, I deselected it, selected HTC Home and no display of clock is dsplayed..Is somethin missing in my phone??? blow r the screenshots..
HTC Touch showing HTCHomeplug
HTC Touch showing TouchFLO
Think the screenshot shuld help wat prob I am facing..
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The above version shows what looks to me to be touch flo 2D. If you have a ROM Flashed with Touch FLo 2d then I don't think you will have the cube. Touch Flo for Elf (reg not touch flow 2d is not a home plugin - the settings are found under settings and it is only a box to check on or off. This enables the cube and swiping for regular touch flow. HTC Home Plugin should show a digital clock- some buttons for SMS, EMail, Missed calles, and under those, your home screen button, Weather, Shortcuts and Ringer settings. Depending on which version of HTC Home you have you may also find, Music player controls and Quick dial shortcusts buttons.
The buttons at the bottom of the above picture are your page selection buttons for home, email, pictures, music etc... I havn't installed Touch flo 2d yet on my device, so don't know much about how it runs on the elf, but do know that it can be installed or flashed onto a device VIA custom ROM. THis is what I think you have on your device - therfore no cube or HTC Home Plugin.

I have done no changes to the phone yet..it's factory default watever I have got..how to change/update my HTCHome??? I need the digital clock badly as well as the CUBE(Just to show off)..Kindly help me out.
BTW thnx for the fastest reply.

[email protected] said:
I have done no changes to the phone yet..it's factory default watever I have got..how to change/update my HTCHome??? I need the digital clock badly as well as the CUBE(Just to show off)..Kindly help me out.
BTW thnx for the fastest reply.
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Hi
If you had read the forums, you would have noticed that your configuration is what everyone wants and the cube is being deactivated (taking too much mem and few applications). Anyway if you like the big clock you can install Htc Home. You can also try Homescreen plusplus for skins http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=350510
Greetings.
Ps refer to your device as an Elfin

thnx 4 the reply..but fm whr can i d/l htc home?? one more query..can v change the message tone to our own???

[email protected] said:
thnx 4 the reply..but fm whr can i d/l htc home?? one more query..can v change the message tone to our own???
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There's a line just below Welcome, [email protected] , on the top right, use "Search"
Good luck

I have used the search in this forum and searched your ROM Version and it is infact from what I have read an official WM 6.1 with Touch flo 2d. You do not have the cube sorry to say. You have basically the same thing as the HTC OPAL. If you disable Touch FLo then you might be able to use HTC Home Plugin, but it is not likely already on your device (it wouldn't be stock) so you might want to look into this and download the HTC Home plugin and see if you can get it to run. Once you install it you will go into your today settings and click HTC Home Plugin to run - this will not work if Touch FLo 2d is running. I don't know if you can get the cube installed and working or not. I havn't read anything about it in the forums as most people who are using Touch flo 2d say that the cube is intentionally left out of the mix because it slows the device down terribly with Touch flo 2d. Most prefer touch flo 2d and don't care about the cube. If you want the cube - you will likely have to look into flashing a custom ROM (non touch flo 2d) for your elfin. I strongly suggest doing much reading before attempting to do so as you don't want to brick your device.

^^thnx m8..it was clear..as of now I wil drop the idea of having the cube..atleast I need the HTC home installed.
@tito12
It's not I am not doing the search, I have done everythin I could and finally landed up here to ask help frm u guys..so pls let me know frm where I can get the HTC home plugin installed for my version of HTC.

Check out my post in this thread - Post # 7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2673928#post2673928
I have provided copies of the Cab's for the HTC home plugin which I am using that I have found elsewhere in this forum. Read my post as you might have problems with backlight as well (if it even works on your device) - If it doesn't work - I can't help you - If it messes your device right up - do a soft reset to see if it works and if not then hard reset and that should get rid of it and bring you back to factory default settings. Should be low risk trying it anyways. (Hard Reset will delete everything on your device you have put on - so you will may want to back up some of your files

^^I searched and found a thread which had the HTC home plugin cab..I d/l and installed and nothin changed..I have got the same with addl. IE icon on the top..stil no digitsl clock..Is ther any spl instructions to d/l the plugin you have directed..or just run the cab file???

You should only have to send the cab to your device. On your device, click it to install. Once installed go Start - settings - today and click the Items tab at bottom - Find HTC home and click the box there - Uncheck everything else for now and then add what you want after. Just to check that it is working. You might have to do a soft reset after installing it though. If it isn't working with a soft reset and by folowing the steps I have listed, then it's probably not compatable

^^ U R MY SAVIOUR M8..It worked worked..Bingo..Hurray..Thnx a bunch m8..I owe u till my life ends..here is the screeny of my HTCHome.
Now my other queries..is the time shown only in white or it shows in black too..I think I can now use the HTCHome Customizer and customize to my needs..am I right???
What abt my other query?? Is the sms tone changeable to mp3 tunes???
Thnx once again all!!!

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[REQ] HTC touch apps

i have a tmobile Wing running wm6 and i have tried all htc touch apps on this website and they dont work for me... can someone either upload working apps(like the contact manager, the comm. manager, the cube thing) or upload a working ROM of the HTC touch(which will work on the WING) for the 64 bit computer??
how are you installing them?
you realise you put the cab file onto the phone then execute it there rather than your pc right?
thats the impression i get from your post...
yes i know that, i am not a nub... i have installed many apps, but they end up screwing up my phone cause it works so slowly
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All the HTC touch apps that I found from explode, they all work fine on my SX66.
Can you describe more about your phone, and how you install the application?
What symptom/behaviour are you seeing on your phone?
well, i transfer it to my storage card, and then run it. later i get a successfully installed message. i soft-reset my phone and then either the program doesn't start up, puts my phhone in a infinate reset mode, or doesnt work correctly.
the htc cube is installed, but i can see the cube! i see this S icon, and a P icon when i slide my finger from bottom to up . since it didnt work, i unistalled it.
the contact manager from the all htc apps extracted sticky starts up, but i cannot change the theme! i see the regular old contacts manager with a white bar, when i run my finger over it, it shows a letter, and scrolls to it, but doesnt have the touch interface i need, and its not graphical at all
and the comm. manager REMOVES my comm. manager, rather than adding one
i am running wm6, boots fine now, the following htc apps
-audio manager
-htc touch theme
-htc album
-htc touch skin for wmp
-spb backup
-htc touch wait cursor(got from freewarepocketpc.net)
that should explain a lot
mr_ding said:
All the HTC touch apps that I found from explode, they all work fine on my SX66.
Can you describe more about your phone, and how you install the application?
What symptom/behaviour are you seeing on your phone?
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explode? can you please post some links and i will try them and replay asap
The 'htc cube' your talkin about is not the actual cube. its called FTouchFlo and is used to scroll and launch programs by using gestures. the changing between s and p is changing between launching mode and scrolling mode. What your looking for is the TouchFlo cube, which i belive must be cooked into a rom to work well. there are other options out there that can be cab installed, just search around the forums.
u mean something like this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=343583
i tried that but in the instructions, i dont know what the prequisites are n i dont have em
i copied the shortcuts to the startup folder and then i ran the program in the folder containting the exe file that came with the zip
can someone post a cab, that i run, and will configure my phone that it works... i dont want to do the "remove the following apps from the startup folder...", the cab file should do that...
i also have problem with touchflo. i saw a lot of threads on it and i dun know which 1 i have to follow and install.
and if any expert here can help me.
1. i am on wm6. not htc theme.
2. i am on wisbar and wisbar desktop
3. device is atom life.
and i want to use the touchflo. can anyone assist me?
can i do the swiping even my screen is on the wisbar?
can anyone help me with this.
help is greatly appreciated.
thanks!
htc theme is not an operating system. it just alters the way it looks. im runnign wm6 also
wisbar is okay and i dont think it affects touchflo, except wisbar uses up too much memory
so who ever has touchflo working on wm6, can u please post a link to the file, and specific instructions on how to install?
killeredge said:
htc theme is not an operating system. it just alters the way it looks. im runnign wm6 also
wisbar is okay and i dont think it affects touchflo, except wisbar uses up too much memory
so who ever has touchflo working on wm6, can u please post a link to the file, and specific instructions on how to install?
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yes. i want also.
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come on ppl, i am sure that someone has gotten touchflo to work

HTC home display cut short

I am running the original T-Mobile Windows mobile 5.0 rom and have installed the htc home application so the weather function works on my MBW-150 watch. But the display is cropped on the top and bottom,I have tried different vertions but still no luck. Any help or pointers would be great
Have you tried removing Today plugins one at a time to
see which is crowding the display?
no even if there is only the htc plugin on the today screen its the same,If too many items are displayed a scroll bar is shown.
search for vga htc home plug in
What DPI setting are you using?
I am running the vga version, and the dpi is at what ever the standard WM 5 is (unless I am missing somthing and I can alter the DPI on WM5 ?
just got a XT7501 and facing the same problem. does anyone know the solution?
That version of the HTC home, which was an earlier version hacked to work on the Athena, only displays correctly at 96dpi.
If you want that to display properly, you need to install RealVGA, which can be found very quickly by searching these here forums, or try the new one in the AP4 addons cab.
Amazing what searching can do!!
**sarcastic rant over**
Well, I'm somewhat confortable with the standart resolution which brings me large buttons to touch on the go. Since I had HTCHome on my TyTNII, I was supposing they will work with standart resolution also. Guess I'm totally wrong and will need to read more about VGA, RealVGA, etc.
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Well, I'm somewhat confortable with the standart resolution which brings me large buttons to touch on the go. Since I had HTCHome on my TyTNII, I was supposing they will work with standart resolution also. Guess I'm totally wrong and will need to read more about VGA, RealVGA, etc.
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I will suggesto to go in the athena wm6 section, AP4 thread, download AP4 addons.rar, extract HTC HOME all DPI and test it!
sergiopi said:
I will suggesto to go in the athena wm6 section, AP4 thread, download AP4 addons.rar, extract HTC HOME all DPI and test it!
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As Sergiopi suggests that version of the HTC home will work in all DPI's, but you will not be able to use the HTC home Customizer application to change the icons, fonts, etc
There is also another HTC_HOME_VGA.cab that works in all DPI's and also allows you to use the customizer app.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2150361&postcount=219
Cab in above post

Manila 3d on Touch?

Hi folks,
i saw some threads in the development section for manila 2d (which really looks cool). I'm wondering if this works on my HTC Touch!? I'm also not sure if there is a cab install version available - or is a rom flash needed (don't want to do that again...)
has anybody already some experiance with manila 2d?
thanks for any information!
you'll notice that there's a thread a few posts down with the Title "touchFLO 2D on ELF" this is the same thing as Manila 2D. It's a simple cab install and works just fine.
Just try it you will love it.
Looks good, but it doesn't work as it should. On my Elfin Audio Mgr 2 doesn't start, system runs veeery slowly even after uninstalling TF2D (hard reset helps) and cable is causing system freeze :/
just tried it and it really looks cool! It works without any problems...
Sad thing is, that its not working together with any other today plugins...
Install SecondToday:
http://www.chi-tai.info/cs_wm_tools_im_cs.htm
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Install SecondToday:
http://www.chi-tai.info/cs_wm_tools_im_cs.htm
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yeah thats really cool! I have mapped the app to my camera button and so i can switch very fast - perfekt
Touchflow 3D
I also have some problems with this panel, after I installed it to my Xperia I have serious problems, it's look great but it's very slow and after open a few other panels my phone just block, I've to reset the Xperia and then I can go on, so I deside to uninstall it but now way it stay's, and after looking in my installed programms it is gone??? I can't uninstall it and I suppose that the only sollution could be a factory restore. I'ts a pitty it don't work like it should be cause I find it a great interface so if anyone could give us some advise they're welcome. I did install the second little program tf3d_panel but even that bring it to full speed and error free
manila on htc touch hd
As the title says, i run on my htc touch hd. where can i find a tutorial on how to install manila on this kind of phone step-by-step ? (tutorial for noobs as you may say) I am totally away from this phone technology and i've found a lot of posts but for htc touch and not touch hd. i want to know which files i must install, where i find them and how can i change the theme. Please, help a noob
Atharia said:
As the title says, i run on my htc touch hd. where can i find a tutorial on how to install manila on this kind of phone step-by-step ? (tutorial for noobs as you may say) I am totally away from this phone technology and i've found a lot of posts but for htc touch and not touch hd. i want to know which files i must install, where i find them and how can i change the theme. Please, help a noob
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Atharia,
Just as nobody has replied and I don't want you to be left in the dark
Have you checked anything in the blackstone forum? That would be a more appropriate place for you to be searching. I understand you may have search for HTC Touch, and that would probabaly be why you came here.
On the other hand though, I think you're phone may actually come with what had been ported to this phone - don't quote me on that but I am sure that it had touchflo as standard?
Stu

[Q] Got new Touch HD - Now what?

Hello to all,
I took the plunge today and despite being very very tempted at getting myself an iphone 3g I decided to get myself a Touch HD. Been spending a few days reading about the Touch HD and it sounds great. Must say I love the look and feel of it, although it's a little on the wide side for my hand.
This is my first WinMo ever and I'm very lost at what to do. I like to tweak and around a mess with my windows installation on my pc, but I just don't know where to start with the Touch HD.
It may sound kind of stupid, but I decided that what's probably best for me is to start this thread (of course after having done a search to see that no other similar thread already exist) and to ask you guys to share some of the things that you first did to your Touch HD when you got it. ie. What are the first few things to do to improve/enhance the experience with the phone.
Thank you all in advance and looking forward to your replies.
PS. English isn't my first language so I apologize if I'm being unclear or if I'm being repetitive.
Grats on the purchase. Where did you buy it from?
That's some fine English for it not being your first language.
Hi, I'm in the same boat as you, although I've had my HD for a few days now. I'm just getting to grips with it, and am now at the point where I feel like I should play around with ROMs. Haven't a clue where to start though, but have had a good read of the wiki.
Good luck with it, and enjoy it.
Welcome to HD world !
Here is my list of applications: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3117017&highlight=secondtoday#post3117017
As a long-term PocketBreeze user (I assume you know about Today Plugins?) I found the restriction of TF3D to be irritating. If you don't know, TF3D will not allow any other today plugins to run.
But, SecondToday is great - this gives you a second today screen on which you can run any number of plugins.
Also, for me a big help, is AEB+ for mapping buttons.
I also have lots of tweaks to the TF3D setup - see the app list in the thread above.
Good luck and enjoy !
Take a look at the apps and themes forum.
That's a good place to start at...
EthanX said:
Take a look at the apps and themes forum.
That's a good place to start at...
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And, of course, check out the wiki pages: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone there's loads of tips ...
Also, the software pages: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Software
shoulda went with the iphone.
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/software-1-dnlds.html
instead of giving you a list, heres a site you can dl free programs, just dl the cab file then put it on your phone using usb connection to your pc then run the cab on your phone from whatever folder you put it in
Welcome.... here is my list of apps...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=462718
Got my Touch HD ~a week ago, my second Win Mo device.
First I would recommend installing a different rom, I went with Duttys 1.7 rom, my HD got a nice performance boost, the Wiki here explains how to do this.
After that I configured all the settings to my liking.
Installed all HTC Fixes.
Then I browsed the Themes and software forum for the blackstone, after awhile I have these installed on my HD:
- HD Tweak (a must have with the HD imo, customize the HD even further and access lots of other tweaks)
- Advanced Configuration Tool 3.2 (pretty much the same as above^)
- Diamond D3D driver (speed up the graphics for the HD)
- Diamond Saber (fun wnb-a-jedi lightsaber software)
- FInixNOverBatteryIcon (Replace the original battery icon with a color changing one and showing the load %)
- Gyrator 2 (rotate the screen when you rotate your HD)
- IPC Black Dialer (black phone application theme)
- IPC black Calculator (black calc theme)
- MyLostBlog MyStopWatch (great stopwatch software)
- Navigon 7 (GPS navigation)
- Tnyynt SD TuneUP (make the HD faster, can't remember how though )
- TouchResponse (vibrates the HD everytime you touch the screen, very useful)
- Weather Database Editor (add your own city to the weather tab)
+ some theme customization and such
Noticed also some great apps in other posts here, thanks for the tips
Wow this forum is certainly very active and helpful.
Thank you guys so much, I'm going to start working on my HD later tonight after I finish work (yeah it's a Sunday and I still have to work )
@ModernMuseum I'm from Lao PDR and I bought it here in Laos, though from the looks of it I think the phone is actually from Italy or something since the user manual is in Italian (or so it seems) and no English manual at all.
PS. any further comments/suggestions/sharing of experience are still welcome
thatg said:
shoulda went with the iphone.
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only morons go for the iphone.
Viba said:
I would recommend installing a different rom, I went with Duttys 1.7 rom, my HD got a nice performance boost, the Wiki here explains how to do this.
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Please can you give me the link for wiki on how to install duttys 1.7 rom? Will I lose everything that's installed on my HTC HD if I install a new rom?
Also, do you only ever install 1 rom at a time, or can you have more than one? Sorry if that's a really stupid question...
Thank you.
h31p said:
Please can you give me the link for wiki on how to install duttys 1.7 rom? Will I lose everything that's installed on my HTC HD if I install a new rom?
Also, do you only ever install 1 rom at a time, or can you have more than one? Sorry if that's a really stupid question...
Thank you.
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Yes you will lose all your data, only 1 rom can be installed at a time.
These should get you going:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=461228
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone_Flash1
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_BLackstone_Flash2
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone_Flash3
Check out the list of ROMs available if you want something other than Dutty's ROM . There are many to choose from. Also before you do any modifications, install HSPL or USPL if you want to do any ROM flashing, since you can flash as many times as you want, but not have more than one ROM on.

Looking for a few more things...

I just got the TP2 for USCC last week. (WM6.5) I haven't used WM in about 2 years and am pretty dissapointed to find a lot of the same issues that were present then. I used to be a fairly competent WM user with above average knowledge in registry editing, ROM flashing, etc but most of what I used to use seems to have changed. So far I have found the fixes for the sms sent notification and the organization of the contact list by last name, first to first, last.
I've been all over these forums and cannot find a fix to disable the onscreen keyboard from auto-popping...ever. Also, in the sound settings menu, there is a slider to adjust ringer volume and another to adjust system volume yet these two don't work independently. I want system volume loud for hearing things like my IM app that runs in the background yet have the ringer volume lower as it's over bearing on full.
Something else I have noticed is that some settings menus appear to be there but not functioning. For instance, under settings>all settings>today there is a 2nd tab for items that does not change from the appearance tab. I've notice several menu's like this throughout the phone. It seems like there are things that other versions of WM may have had that this doesn't or simply that Microsoft/HTC got lazy in the initial release and either did not remove tabs that were not intended to be there or forgot to finish some that should. Just wondering if anyone has some insight into this.
I'm also looking for a good free IM client. I've seen many apps across these forums but with so many out there, it's hard to find the right one for me. I refuse to pay $45 for Agile messenger (although I've seen hacked versions but I would prefer not to deal with that). It's a decent app, not great but decent but $45 for a very simple app is outrageous. So, I found Slick ( http://slick.en.softonic.com/windowsmobile ) which is a free app and works great! The only feature it is missing that I liked about Agile is a notification (similar to the annoying sms message sent notification that I removed) while the app is in standby. Does anyone know of another free IM app that is simple and has that feature? I only use Google Talk and have noticed some apps specifically for that but there are so many to try, I'm hoping someone has a good recommendation to save me some time.
The last thing I'm curious about pertains to Manila. I see Manila all over these forums. I've done some reading on it and have a good understanding of what manila is. But, it's very confusing as some thread talk about reflashing ROMS for it and others talk about installing cabs over your current rom for it. Does anyone have a link to a good thread(s) that will explain things more clearly so I can make an educated decision on the best way to try this out? A, Manila for Dummies, if you will.
Thanks in advance for any help!
Edit: It looks like the "Manila" Touch Flo design is incorporated in WM 6.5 on my device already? Is this mainly the custom tabs located at the bottom of the today screen?
CeLlgUy said:
...to disable the onscreen keyboard from auto-popping...
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There's an option to disable "Auto Deploy SIP" in Advanced Configuration Tool.
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... Also, in the sound settings menu, there is a slider to adjust ringer volume and another to adjust system volume yet these two don't work independently....
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Go to "Settings" tab, tap "Sound", turn off "Single Volume Control".
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... under settings>all settings>today there is a 2nd tab for items that does not change from the appearance tab....
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First of all, TF3D/TouchFlo3d, Manila, or Sense are essentially the same thing. It's a skin designed by HTC to cover up WinMo. You may say it's actualy just a very elaborate Today screen plugin. Since it takes up the whole screen, you would not be able to add other items.
CeLlgUy said:
... I'm also looking for a good free IM client....
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No comment. I use MSN Messenger. See if other can help you out here.
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... A, Manila for Dummies, if you will....
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See above for a crude definition. There are many versions, so that's why there's so much discussion in these forums about them. People are trying to use versions that didn't come stock with their devices.
TF2D or Manila 2D - for budget devices like the Touch Vivo, Touch Cruise, etc
TF3D v1 - originally came on the Touch Diamond and Touch Pro
TF3D v2- came with the Touch Diamond 2 and our Touch Pro2.
TF3D v2.1 - came with the release of the official WinMo 6.5 ROM for the Touch Diamond2 and our Touch Pro2. Identifiable with the weather under the clock in the Home tab.
TF3D v2.5 - came with the release of the Touch HD2. Has customizable shortcuts on the Home tab, revamped People tab, coverflow-like Pictures tab and Music tab when in landscape, and other goodies.
Btw, going forward, you may want to list out what you're asking in bullet point form. Most people are put off by long essay-like posts. You'll get more responses if your post is clear and short.
ohyeahar said:
There's an option to disable "Auto Deploy SIP" in Advanced Configuration Tool.
Go to "Settings" tab, tap "Sound", turn off "Single Volume Control".
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Can't believe I missed that one, thanks.
First of all, TF3D/TouchFlo3d, Manila, or Sense are essentially the same thing. It's a skin designed by HTC to cover up WinMo. You may say it's actualy just a very elaborate Today screen plugin. Since it takes up the whole screen, you would not be able to add other items.
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I was just using that particular option as an example of a menu that is present but cannot be accessed.
See above for a crude definition. There are many versions, so that's why there's so much discussion in these forums about them. People are trying to use versions that didn't come stock with their devices.
TF2D or Manila 2D - for budget devices like the Touch Vivo, Touch Cruise, etc
TF3D v1 - originally came on the Touch Diamond and Touch Pro
TF3D v2- came with the Touch Diamond 2 and our Touch Pro2.
TF3D v2.1 - came with the release of the official WinMo 6.5 ROM for the Touch Diamond2 and our Touch Pro2. Identifiable with the weather under the clock in the Home tab.
TF3D v2.5 - came with the release of the Touch HD2. Has customizable shortcuts on the Home tab, revamped People tab, coverflow-like Pictures tab and Music tab when in landscape, and other goodies.
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That actually clears it up quite a bit. So it appears that my CDMA TP2 with USCC is actually 2.1 or 2.5? I see you stated our TP2 is is 2.1 but your description of 2.5 seems to fit my phone. Either way, it looks like I can just addon on any Manila Cabs that customize the home screen more as Manila is already installed?
Btw, going forward, you may want to list out what you're asking in bullet point form. Most people are put off by long essay-like posts. You'll get more responses if your post is clear and short.
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Sorry about that, I was reading though forums for about 2 hours after the bar last night when I typed all of that. I tend to get a bit winded when I'm intoxicated.
CeLlgUy said:
I was just using that particular option as an example of a menu that is present but cannot be accessed.
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Where else are there menu options that doesn't look like they belong? Anyway, if there are, then it's because of Microsoft and not HTC. We're on WinMo is on version 6.5 now, but it really hasn't changed much since I first used a pocket PC back in 2000.
CeLlgUy said:
Either way, it looks like I can just addon on any Manila Cabs that customize the home screen more as Manila is already installed?
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Certainly, there are components that are possible to install via cabs. But often, you'll need to flash a ROM with the particular build of Manila that you want to get those features.
So just to clear this up, if something is made for TF3D v2, it should (or might) work with our CDMA TP2 running the stock @M6.5 rom?
Also, anyone have a fix for the keyboard thing? I remembered the name of the cab i used to use, null keyboard but can't find anything that works with this rom. I've tried a few reg edits that have not worked.
CeLlgUy said:
So just to clear this up, if something is made for TF3D v2, it should (or might) work with our CDMA TP2 running the stock @M6.5 rom?
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It should, yes. However, if you have a TP2 with WM 6.5 you most likely have Manila 2.1 (in my case 2.1.191937). If you go to the Settings tab and scroll down, you should be able to see which version you have. That being said, many cabs work on all versions, a good few has to have a more specific version (like 2.0, 2.1 or 2.5) and a mere handful needs to be spot on (e.g. 2.1.1717).
After installing such a CAB you often need to restart your TF3D/Manila/Sense, and to do so you go to Start > Settings > Today and tick off HTC Sense. Tap OK and go back in to tick the HTC Sense box again. That restarts your TF3D.
Hope that made sense.
Thx for the clarification, I think I'm ready to start customizing this thing! I'm a bit hesitant as I really like alot of the features that come with the stock home screen. My last windows device was the 8125 and I modded the **** out of that home screen but this one I simply want to add a few highlights without loosing the over all look.
One thing I have been curious about is if there is a way to put a google search bar under the calendar. I know Google apps will put one up but then I have to go to my programs tab and open google apps so I might as well just eliminate a step and open opera.
I haven't checked to be honest with you, but I am satisfied with moving the internet tab a few notches closer to the home screen tab. I find that to be quick and easy enough! One tab on the tab and the google search is at the top of the screen.
Thanks for all the help! You gave me the tools I needed to dive back in. I understand the differences in Manila's now as I've flashed about 5 or 6 different roms. 2.5 is slick in theory, especially when Dusk Evolution v2.0 is theme is added but I had to return to 2.1. Thanks again for the help to get me started.
Im client look at PalRingo.. it's pretty awesome and covers most major networks (yahoo, MSN, gmail, facebook chat, icq others.
Yes, that's what I currently use. Kind of an old thread now too. I've come a long way since I started this thread.

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