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HTC Diamond Keyboard on VGA devices (quick fix)

I was disappointed to see that the HTC Diamond Keyboard CABs found here on XDA-DEVS were all for QVGA. I wanted to test it out on my Dell x51v, but the keyboard would not display correctly.
So what I did was extract the image files from the CAB, resize them to double their resolution, and recompile them into these two CAB files for ease of installation. All the CABS do is overwrite the image files installed by HTC Diamond keyboard to VGA equivalents.You must fully install the keyborad and languages from another CAB file BEFORE installing this CAB file to work.
Note: I admit, resizing images is not the best method of converting QVGA to VGA. Some images may appear blurry. How good this displays for you depends on how sharp is the screen on your device. This will at least allow you to try the keyboard on a VGA device.
I installed the Gullum Diamond Keys CAB found here. I prefer it over P1Tater's version found here because it seems to work well on my device. The images were extracted from P1Tater's because it has all languages in one cab.
The "ENG" Cab file contains the images needed for the english keyboard.
The "OTHER" Cab file contains the images for ESN, RUS, WWE, FRE, PTG, NORDIC, GRK, GER, and ARA.
(Please post if a true VGA version of Diamond Touch Keyboard surfaces)

Someone sorta beat you to it, I think.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2204377&postcount=73
Hope that helps.

wow this is stupid. the original manila keyboard files aka diamond keyboard files are vga and have been resized to qvga. get the vga files and they will look like they should and be original vga.

Yeah, the original VGA graphics would be much better, but without them the only alternative is to upscale the QVGA graphics or redrawing from scratch.
Since I know the true VGA graphics are out there somewhere, redrawing is unnecessary and a waste of time. This was quickly done. I described this as a temporary fix in the OP. Some people may not care about the fuzziness. Once the true VGA CAB is release, this will gladly become obsolete. LennySH from HTCGeeks says he has the VGA graphics and should be releasing a better fix. Use this if you want to try the keyboard now and use the better version when it comes out.
Note, this overlays the graphics for all three keyboard, not just the QWERTY like the other post.

nonpaq said:
Yeah, the original VGA graphics would be much better, but without them the only alternative is to upscale the QVGA graphics or redrawing from scratch.
Since I know the true VGA graphics are out there somewhere, redrawing is unnecessary and a waste of time. This was quickly done. I described this as a temporary fix in the OP. Some people may not care about the fuzziness. Once the true VGA CAB is release, this will gladly become obsolete. LennySH from HTCGeeks says he has the VGA graphics and should be releasing a better fix. Use this if you want to try the keyboard now and use the better version when it comes out.
Note, this overlays the graphics for all three keyboard, not just the QWERTY like the other post.
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Will this also fix the problem of numbers showing instead of the letters in the keypad mode?
Thanks in advance.

cheers mate

ariel0103 said:
Will this also fix the problem of numbers showing instead of the letters in the keypad mode?
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All I can say is that I dont have that problem using the Gullum CAB with English Keys. See first post images.
Edit: I just realized you may be refering to numbers being typed instead of letters in keypad. I experienced this once, when switching to another program while the keypad was up, only numbers would be entered. I found the only way to reset back to text entry was to hit the "options" key, then close down the settings panel. Letter entry would be restored.

nonpaq said:
All I can say is that I dont have that problem using the Gullum CAB with English Keys. See first post images.
Edit: I just realized you may be refering to numbers being typed instead of letters in keypad. I experienced this once, when switching to another program while the keypad was up, only numbers would be entered. I found the only way to reset back to text entry was to hit the "options" key, then close down the settings panel. Letter entry would be restored.
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Thank you for your reply. Yes, I noticed that as well that in order to reset back to text entry is to go to the options but this is such a pain.
Hope that there will be a fix for this soon.
Thanks again.

Diamond keyboard VGA overlay working great
nonpaq said:
I was disappointed to see that the HTC Diamond Keyboard CABs found here on XDA-DEVS were all for QVGA. I wanted to test it out on my Dell x51v, but the keyboard would not display correctly.
So what I did was extract the image files from the CAB, resize them to double their resolution, and recompile them into these two CAB files for ease of installation. All the CABS do is overwrite the image files installed by HTC Diamond keyboard to VGA equivalents.You must fully install the keyborad and languages from another CAB file BEFORE installing this CAB file to work.
Note: I admit, resizing images is not the best method of converting QVGA to VGA. Some images may appear blurry. How good this displays for you depends on how sharp is the screen on your device. This will at least allow you to try the keyboard on a VGA device. . . .
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Well, I think you did a fantastic job!! It installed fine on my x51v, and looks great! Now thumb typing is easy! I love using the 20-key Diamond keyboard!
Props and thanks for doing this!

will this keypad work in Opera Mobile 9.5?
I found that the QVGA ones didn't produce any letters in, say the google searchbar

I have a problem with your keyboard - I've installed it and it appear as keyboard but I can't use it, I can't write any letters. Must I first install gullum's program?
thanks!
best 12nala34

320x320 Love (via RealVGA)

I just posted a blog entry about my experience with RealVGA and 320x320 mode on the Treo Pro. Check it out at: http://nebowiki.blogspot.com/2008/11/treo-pro-320x320-love.html
I am curious about the experience of others?

Screenshots? Anyone?

I will try and put some screenshots together tomorrow. I have been running RealVGA at 96dpi for nearly a month now and have *never* switched back to 128dpi since installing it. The only faults I notice are the lack of icons for SMS messages in the threaded view and the compacted battery icon - neither of which bother me significantly. frankly, I think the rom should run at this reolution as stock - and as soon as we can cook up a rom I will strip out of it all the 128dpi stuff!
John

I'm running it for weeks now, really like it. The fonts may be too small for some, but I certainly appreciate it.

A few weeks on RealVGA for me too. Never need to change from 96dpi back to 128dpi. In fact 96dpi full 320x320 allows me to easily run apps that have problem with 240x240 mode.

Real VGA here as well. The Best. I wont go back.

Could anyone post any piccys of their pros running the 96dpi?
Thanks

Some screenshots
Hi folks,
A couple of screenshots of 96dpi on a Treo Pro just to show you what it looks like. If anyone wants a particular view showing, just ask.
John

Thanks John

I guess i have to be a problem child. its not working so well for me. a lot of things are messed up, images, background, phone dialer, etc. not so great on my end.

oVan said:
I'm running it for weeks now, really like it. The fonts may be too small for some, but I certainly appreciate it.
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Using 96dpi, it's needed to get Olivetree's Biblereader to display icons on the taskbars correctly, along with some of the fonts.
Also needed @ 96dpi for Mobile Shell 2.1 or 2.11 to use the Omnia or Experia themes (found in the square screen themes thread at ppcgeeks.com). They go offscreen otherwise.
Yes, fonts in some places begin to become uncomfortably small. But, in most instances, it's not a problem. However button placement display gets off center with comm manager, especially the data connection on/off setting.

You can of course slide the font size a notch up, that will make most text a bit larger while keeping the 320 resolution. Not perfect, but perhaps for some a better compromise?

johnjtaylor said:
I will try and put some screenshots together tomorrow. I have been running RealVGA at 96dpi for nearly a month now and have *never* switched back to 128dpi since installing it. The only faults I notice are the lack of icons for SMS messages in the threaded view and the compacted battery icon - neither of which bother me significantly. frankly, I think the rom should run at this reolution as stock - and as soon as we can cook up a rom I will strip out of it all the 128dpi stuff!
John
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I've been running the RealVGa at 96dpi for a week. I've noticed that the icon for the threaded sms is missing. I can only see a "x" at the icon location. Is anyone able to share some view how i can change the icon back to normal?
Also another thing that i notice for is the view of the dialer is a bit shorter than the screen. Therefore, you can see a line of the background when you on the dialer.
Another weird things that i notice when running RealVga is that, when u dialed an unknown number, after the call, a notice will pop up and ask you whether you want to save the no. You will NOT be able to save the no. from there. Have tried that many times and gave up
Have hard reset and use back the original config. Evertthing went back normal. But just TOO BIG. I just wish that the original config will come with an option for us to choose between 128 and 96 dpi. .... 96 dpi still the best view for my treo pro

I use RealVGA with lot of pleasure on my Treo Pro, here
For now, i would like only replace the icon in the threaded sms, like i did for the battery icon. Maybe in the windows folder ...

Misutsu said:
I use RealVGA with lot of pleasure on my Treo Pro, here
For now, i would like only replace the icon in the threaded sms, like i did for the battery icon. Maybe in the windows folder ...
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Can you change the start up screen showing the distorted and extremely big window mobile 6??? I notice that it's good with the original setting but was enlarged when using realvga. Any suggetiong how to change that?

I guess not but i'm not a specialist. All my tips came from xda

keyboard missing with 96 dpi
for some mysterious reason the on screen keyboard disapears and i can't see it with real vga and 96 dpi on my treo pro. the rest work great.

Emyas said:
for some mysterious reason the on screen keyboard disapears and i can't see it with real vga and 96 dpi on my treo pro. the rest work great.
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Works fine on my Pro, except it's very small & my eyes aren't that young, anymore. Because of that, I installed CMKeyboard & a couple of htctoucher's skins from right here on xda.
If you're having issues with RealVGA, are you using the latest version by Ebag333? It can be found here: http://discussion.treocentral.com/showthread.php?t=170002 on TreoCentral. If you're using an earlier version, change to 128dpi before doing anything else, so that you're at "normal" resolution. The newer version uses Mortscript & it's suggested to install after a hard reset.
HTH
Bill

kraski said:
Works fine on my Pro, except it's very small & my eyes aren't that young, anymore. Because of that, I installed CMKeyboard & a couple of htctoucher's skins from right here on xda.
If you're having issues with RealVGA, are you using the latest version by Ebag333? It can be found here: http://discussion.treocentral.com/showthread.php?t=170002 on TreoCentral. If you're using an earlier version, change to 128dpi before doing anything else, so that you're at "normal" resolution. The newer version uses Mortscript & it's suggested to install after a hard reset.
HTH
Bill
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Yes it's a good solution. I personaly install RESCO KEYBOARD PRO that has a Big Button skin and work really great.
I only miss SPB mobile shell.
Thanks

Emyas said:
Yes it's a good solution. I personaly install RESCO KEYBOARD PRO that has a Big Button skin and work really great.
I only miss SPB mobile shell.
Thanks
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I'll have to look at Resco Keyboard. I like other products by them (file manager & registry tool).
AFAIK, some of the versions between 2.1 & 2.14 are OK with 96dpi.

HTC Touch - Newbie - Help

Hi guys,
Welcome me to the family of HTC and WinMO. I bought HTC Touch yesterday and felt I am on the top of the world. It is purely exhilarating. The features, touch screen, touch flo, awesome. This is my first WinMO and Touchy.
I need some clarifications,
1. How should I bring the big digital clock in my desktop. Now I have a normal clock with hands. I tapped on it and holded for few secs, I then get the clock settings but no where can see the digital clock makeover.(Googled and tried).
I also tried to go to Start > Settings > Today > Items, removed TouchGlo and enabled HTCHome, stil same, enabled both, stil same and vice versa, stil same.
Please help me out in getting the digital clock.
2. I connected my HTC to my laptop in order to transfer music and wallpapers. But I need everything to be transferred to the card and not to the Phone. But I dunno where to put all the files in the card since it is not having any defined folders for music, pics.
Should I put it just in the card or should I create separate folders?
3. One step further, I always mod my mobile, like I do for my Sony. Heard the same thing is possible in WinMO too. Can any1 point me to a tutorial so I can cook my HTC too the extreme??
T i A

[email protected] said:
Hi guys,
Welcome me to the family of HTC and WinMO. I bought HTC Touch yesterday and felt I am on the top of the world. It is purely exhilarating. The features, touch screen, touch flo, awesome. This is my first WinMO and Touchy.
I need some clarifications,
1. How should I bring the big digital clock in my desktop. Now I have a normal clock with hands. I tapped on it and holded for few secs, I then get the clock settings but no where can see the digital clock makeover.(Googled and tried).
I also tried to go to Start > Settings > Today > Items, removed TouchGlo and enabled HTCHome, stil same, enabled both, stil same and vice versa, stil same.
Please help me out in getting the digital clock.
2. I connected my HTC to my laptop in order to transfer music and wallpapers. But I need everything to be transferred to the card and not to the Phone. But I dunno where to put all the files in the card since it is not having any defined folders for music, pics.
Should I put it just in the card or should I create separate folders?
3. One step further, I always mod my mobile, like I do for my Sony. Heard the same thing is possible in WinMO too. Can any1 point me to a tutorial so I can cook my HTC too the extreme??
T i A
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What device do you have specifically - HTC Touch Elf or Vogue
1. I have checked my settings on HTC touch Elfin and could not find how to change to Analogue clock - Mine is already digital - Perhaps check out HHC - HTC Home customizer which is available for free on this site
2. I created a seperate folder for music and movies on my storage card and just manually transfer them over to the folder on my storage card either through active sinc or using WIFI or Bluetooth. I havn't tried automatic sincronization of music into music folder - Don't know if you can to the storage card anyways.
3. To point you in the right direction you need to be specific as to which device you actually have. HTC Touch is not specific - Touch Vogue, Elf or Elfin - Or even Touch Diamond - Touch Pro, Touch Dual etc.....the ROM's you will try are device specific and if you flash the wrong ROM you could brick your device

Just install Manilla2D in development and hacking section your phone will rock then they will think you have the Touch Diamond

^^ thanks for the replies..here is the hardware and firmware details shown in my phone,
Windows Mobile 6.1 Pro
CE OS 5.2.19972
Processor: OMAP850-201MHz
ROM Version: 3.07.720.03 WWE
Radio version: 03.34.90
Protocol version: 4.1.13.71
Model No: ELF0100
Hope the above details are enuf.
@Sulten
Will Manilla2D work for the above detailed phone?? If yes, please let me know how to install it since I am newbie and do not want to brick my new phone.
Also one more query what is the 'CUBE'??? Is it available in my phone?? How to see it?
T i A

Cube : just swipe your finger upward from bottom of screen and up then side to side to rotate cube. These instructions should be in your owners manual. I suggest really learning more about your device and how to use it before flashing any ROM's. I suggest you start with other applications (CAB's) to install on your device to customize since most can easily be uninstalled if they don't function properly. Once you have done a lot of reading and understand your device better, then if you wish, you can tackle flashing a new ROM. I personally haven't even flashed a custom ROM yet onto my device, but am starting to get tempted. I havn't done enough reading on it yet to even try or offer any advice in that area

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Cube : just swipe your finger upward from bottom of screen and up then side to side to rotate cube. These instructions should be in your owners manual. I suggest really learning more about your device and how to use it before flashing any ROM's. I suggest you start with other applications (CAB's) to install on your device to customize since most can easily be uninstalled if they don't function properly. Once you have done a lot of reading and understand your device better, then if you wish, you can tackle flashing a new ROM. I personally haven't even flashed a custom ROM yet onto my device, but am starting to get tempted. I havn't done enough reading on it yet to even try or offer any advice in that area
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I am not able to bring the CUBE into action!! Is it available in my version of phone??? I am not able to find any word with CUBE in the owners manual too. Should I do the above steps from the Home screen or???
@Sulten
Which version of Manilla will work for my version??? Pls advice.

I am desperate..pls any1 help

[email protected] said:
I am desperate..pls any1 help
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Don't
First read and download this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=418892 so you can give useful info on your device, then spend a few days reading the different elf forums to know what you want and then decide what to do. There's no point calling for help in general, you have to state what is your prob .
Based on what you already said if you want the cube DON' T disable touchflo, this is it !!!
Welcome to the club (we are all newbies here)

^^thnx m8..I already d/l that file..now used it and below are the complete details abt my HTC,
Touch version : Elfin
Device ID : ELF010050
CID : DOPOD001
IPL : 3.07.0002
SPL : 3.07.0000
ROM Version : 3.07.720.03
AKU Version : 1.2.7
Page Pool : 12 MB
RAM Size : 128 MB
ROM Size : 256 MB
Model No. : ELF0100
Hope this helps!!!
Today I went to a mall and looked at a HTC Touch displayed thr for sale..That touch phone had the digital clock in it..out of curiosity I checked the settings, today, items. There was no TouchFLO and only HTCHome was present and selected. But in my version, TouchFLO is selected, I deselected it, selected HTC Home and no display of clock is dsplayed..Is somethin missing in my phone??? blow r the screenshots..
HTC Touch showing HTCHomeplug
HTC Touch showing TouchFLO
Think the screenshot shuld help wat prob I am facing..
T i A

The above version shows what looks to me to be touch flo 2D. If you have a ROM Flashed with Touch FLo 2d then I don't think you will have the cube. Touch Flo for Elf (reg not touch flow 2d is not a home plugin - the settings are found under settings and it is only a box to check on or off. This enables the cube and swiping for regular touch flow. HTC Home Plugin should show a digital clock- some buttons for SMS, EMail, Missed calles, and under those, your home screen button, Weather, Shortcuts and Ringer settings. Depending on which version of HTC Home you have you may also find, Music player controls and Quick dial shortcusts buttons.
The buttons at the bottom of the above picture are your page selection buttons for home, email, pictures, music etc... I havn't installed Touch flo 2d yet on my device, so don't know much about how it runs on the elf, but do know that it can be installed or flashed onto a device VIA custom ROM. THis is what I think you have on your device - therfore no cube or HTC Home Plugin.

I have done no changes to the phone yet..it's factory default watever I have got..how to change/update my HTCHome??? I need the digital clock badly as well as the CUBE(Just to show off)..Kindly help me out.
BTW thnx for the fastest reply.

[email protected] said:
I have done no changes to the phone yet..it's factory default watever I have got..how to change/update my HTCHome??? I need the digital clock badly as well as the CUBE(Just to show off)..Kindly help me out.
BTW thnx for the fastest reply.
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Hi
If you had read the forums, you would have noticed that your configuration is what everyone wants and the cube is being deactivated (taking too much mem and few applications). Anyway if you like the big clock you can install Htc Home. You can also try Homescreen plusplus for skins http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=350510
Greetings.
Ps refer to your device as an Elfin

thnx 4 the reply..but fm whr can i d/l htc home?? one more query..can v change the message tone to our own???

[email protected] said:
thnx 4 the reply..but fm whr can i d/l htc home?? one more query..can v change the message tone to our own???
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There's a line just below Welcome, [email protected] , on the top right, use "Search"
Good luck

I have used the search in this forum and searched your ROM Version and it is infact from what I have read an official WM 6.1 with Touch flo 2d. You do not have the cube sorry to say. You have basically the same thing as the HTC OPAL. If you disable Touch FLo then you might be able to use HTC Home Plugin, but it is not likely already on your device (it wouldn't be stock) so you might want to look into this and download the HTC Home plugin and see if you can get it to run. Once you install it you will go into your today settings and click HTC Home Plugin to run - this will not work if Touch FLo 2d is running. I don't know if you can get the cube installed and working or not. I havn't read anything about it in the forums as most people who are using Touch flo 2d say that the cube is intentionally left out of the mix because it slows the device down terribly with Touch flo 2d. Most prefer touch flo 2d and don't care about the cube. If you want the cube - you will likely have to look into flashing a custom ROM (non touch flo 2d) for your elfin. I strongly suggest doing much reading before attempting to do so as you don't want to brick your device.

^^thnx m8..it was clear..as of now I wil drop the idea of having the cube..atleast I need the HTC home installed.
@tito12
It's not I am not doing the search, I have done everythin I could and finally landed up here to ask help frm u guys..so pls let me know frm where I can get the HTC home plugin installed for my version of HTC.

Check out my post in this thread - Post # 7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2673928#post2673928
I have provided copies of the Cab's for the HTC home plugin which I am using that I have found elsewhere in this forum. Read my post as you might have problems with backlight as well (if it even works on your device) - If it doesn't work - I can't help you - If it messes your device right up - do a soft reset to see if it works and if not then hard reset and that should get rid of it and bring you back to factory default settings. Should be low risk trying it anyways. (Hard Reset will delete everything on your device you have put on - so you will may want to back up some of your files

^^I searched and found a thread which had the HTC home plugin cab..I d/l and installed and nothin changed..I have got the same with addl. IE icon on the top..stil no digitsl clock..Is ther any spl instructions to d/l the plugin you have directed..or just run the cab file???

You should only have to send the cab to your device. On your device, click it to install. Once installed go Start - settings - today and click the Items tab at bottom - Find HTC home and click the box there - Uncheck everything else for now and then add what you want after. Just to check that it is working. You might have to do a soft reset after installing it though. If it isn't working with a soft reset and by folowing the steps I have listed, then it's probably not compatable

^^ U R MY SAVIOUR M8..It worked worked..Bingo..Hurray..Thnx a bunch m8..I owe u till my life ends..here is the screeny of my HTCHome.
Now my other queries..is the time shown only in white or it shows in black too..I think I can now use the HTCHome Customizer and customize to my needs..am I right???
What abt my other query?? Is the sms tone changeable to mp3 tunes???
Thnx once again all!!!

Normal WM themes on an ELF?

Just curious if you can use normal Windows Mobile Themes and backgrounds on the Elf?

Yes you can.
Yes you can. Assuming by normal Windows mobile themes you mean standard themes on QVGA resolution. You can also just use plain background images as well, just look for files with the .tsk extension. These can automatically be applied through your today screen.

alright, I was just curious, I was told you cant use the normal tsk files anymore, and that the Elf did not support a Home Screen anymore since the home screen has the custom HTC style....pretty much I am still able to use any tsk file, as long as it is QVGA correct?
Thanks for the clarification and quick reply....
Also has there been any problems on record with TomTom...When I get mine I am hoping to get TomTom on, but not sure if it is compatible with the new TouchFlo interface.
Thanks!

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alright, I was just curious, I was told you cant use the normal tsk files anymore, and that the Elf did not support a Home Screen anymore since the home screen has the custom HTC style....pretty much I am still able to use any tsk file, as long as it is QVGA correct?
Thanks for the clarification and quick reply....
Also has there been any problems on record with TomTom...When I get mine I am hoping to get TomTom on, but not sure if it is compatible with the new TouchFlo interface.
Thanks!
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lol....yes the home screen can still be changed. The tsk file changes the background and the color theme of your phone. You can choose to toggle the default HTC home screen on or off through your today screen settings under start-->settings-->personal-->today-->Items. Either ways it doesn't have any impact whatsoever on the functionality of the tsk file. You can customize it to your hearts content Infact, you can even customize the default HTC home sceen using this app

ahh...very nice I have been debating this or a Wing....
Tom Tom has no issues either?
Last thing I need is to buy a phone and have TomTom software I spent money on be useless

vlcano57 said:
ahh...very nice I have been debating this or a Wing....
Tom Tom has no issues either?
Last thing I need is to buy a phone and have TomTom software I spent money on be useless
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Not sure about tom tom. I don't use it.....not aware. Check somewhere on the forums....I'm sure I remember seeing the name tom tom come up pretty often though. For reasons good or bad....I dont know

TouchFLO, Manila, 2D, 3D ???

I remember reading somewhere that Touch3G aka Jade has TouchFlo 2.
But on my Jade if I go to Settings/System/TouchFLO it says:
TouchFLO version 3.0 (build 31508).
So what do I have? Manila, Touchflo, 2D, 3D ??? Could somebody please explain the HTC language to me?
Also, specific to the Jade, what is the difference between themes and skins? Isn't it the same? I am reasonably computer literate, but like clear definitions of things.
Reading through the posts on Manila modifications, one poster stated:
What version of TouchFLO have you installed? You need to have at least M2D version 20
How come that my phone is new, and I only have version 3??
Thanks for help
Joe

Manilla 2D

The Jade has TouchFlo 2D (as in 2 dimensional) also known as Manila 2D, TF2D or M2D.
Themes and skins are, afaik, the same, and the person stating that you have to have at least version 20 means version 2.0 actually.
'Manila' btw is HTC's codename for the Touchflo interface
Touchflo 3D (also known as Manila 3D, TF3D of M3D) is a different story.
Whether a HTC phone has TouchFlo 2D or 3D depends on the capacity and resolution of the screen. The Jade has a QVGA screen (quarter VGA aka 240 x 320 pixels) and can't handle the TF3D animations and touch posibilities.
A phone with a VGA screen (640 x 480 pixels), like the Diamond, usually has Touhflo 3D.
Fellow forumers, plz correct me if i'm wrong....but this is what i know.
Hope i helped you out a bit

Thank you Nirak for help. So I have TouchFLO 2D v.3.
If have a few more questions for those who modified their Touchflo -
If I want to change my Touchflo, I understand I have two choices -
Uninstall it (don't know how) and find and install a new one; or
modify the existing one with registry edits and/or Manila Customiser.
This Customiser - is it basically a new additional program that runs alongside the existing TouchFLO, or is it something like a registry editor that only modifies the existing TouchFLO and can be later uninstalled?
Thanks
Joe

jfranek said:
If I want to change my Touchflo, I understand I have two choices
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If you want to change (I assume modify/customise) you can do many things including changing the registry, yes and also change the graphics, etc.
jfranek said:
This Customiser - is it basically a new additional program that runs alongside the existing TouchFLO, or is it something like a registry editor that only modifies the existing TouchFLO and can be later uninstalled?
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AFAIK, briefly the customiser (M2DC) does not run alongside. It's just a program that does (simplify) the registry editing and a few *.xml files (for customisation) for those who do not wish to dwell into. yes M2DC can be uninstalled (after using) and TF2D runs fine.
I am not sure how to uninstall TF2D but you can always deactivate if you do not wish to use it and use other today themes or plugins, etc.

uninstalling TF2D that is included (cooked) in your ROM is not possible, but as Azahidi says, you can deactivate it and use the standard Windows interface, or any other shell you prefer, like SPB Mobile Shell, and there are others.
Basically TF2D is also just a shell round your Windows Mobile System, that's suppossed to make it easier to use (not always is...) and more 'eye candier' .
The M2DCustomizer is a easy to use utility to modify the settings of TF2D and use other skins, look over here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427392
and here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425974 (older skins)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=451702
Since i'm not that much of a techi i like using M2D Customizer, but just like Azahidi says, these modifyings can also be done by editing the registry and/or .xml files
To give you an idea, here is a screenshot of my Jade's homepage with basically the standard TF2D, modified with another skin:

Thanks azahidi and Nirak.
I've been reading all those posts several times, it is starting to make some sense.
Looking at the M2D Customizer - I believe it will back up the existing factory Touchflo and I can restore it if the mods did not work or I did not like them. Is this correct?
Apart from other mods, I would like to change the email widget to a 'Tasks' widget. I would like to see a different icon instead of the envelope and instead of the sheet of paper sticking out of the envelope I would like to see a list of tasks etc.
I don't think that the Manila Customiser can do that. Is that correct?
And I don't think I could achieve this by getting a new skin, could I ?
Maybe there is a program somewhere to design a complete shell from scratch on desktop PC??
Joe

I think you should test Spb-Mobile Shell 3. It is very good.
14 days-trial and information here:
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/pocketpc-software/mobileshell/

Thanks, MvBoe, I think I will try it.
Joe

jfranek said:
Thanks azahidi and Nirak.
I've been reading all those posts several times, it is starting to make some sense.
Looking at the M2D Customizer - I believe it will back up the existing factory Touchflo and I can restore it if the mods did not work or I did not like them. Is this correct
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Yep, totally, just remember first thing to do is making a back up of your original theme, M2D Customizer has a tab for it ('restore')
jfranek said:
Apart from other mods, I would like to change the email widget to a 'Tasks' widget. I would like to see a different icon instead of the envelope and instead of the sheet of paper sticking out of the envelope I would like to see a list of tasks etc.
I don't think that the Manila Customiser can do that. Is that correct?
And I don't think I could achieve this by getting a new skin, could I ?
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Correct again
jfranek said:
Maybe there is a program somewhere to design a complete shell from scratch on desktop PC??
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I really have no clue if sucha program exists.

stupid question
Hello,
I have got pure WM6.5 on my device without any graphic enviroment like Touch 2D or something. Is it possible to install only this enviroment (Touch 2D - is it Manila 2D?) ? And how?
Sorry for the noob quiestion...

Matio said:
Hello,
I have got pure WM6.5 on my device without any graphic enviroment like Touch 2D or something. Is it possible to install only this enviroment (Touch 2D - is it Manila 2D?) ? And how?
Sorry for the noob quiestion...
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You can install anything on your device, depending on the purpose and your liking, and how you want to customise your today screen. Yes you can install Manilla2D (TF2D). Just search xda, get (download) the .cab file to your PC, copy to your device (or download straight to your device) and then run it.

Many thanks for your answer azahidi.
I tried to install M2D as you told me. I folowed the guide witch is here. So that I have installed HTC Home v 2.1. and after that [11.3.08-Update 20] M2D Build 1.0.18203328 - Jade (TOUCH 3G Version). Restarted device, but nothing happened. When I turn my Home screen as TouchFLO, on my screen appeares text: "Tap here to launch TouchFLO" and when I tap there, the whole device becomes to be totally frozen.
Can anyone help?

MvBoe said:
I think you should test Spb-Mobile Shell 3. It is very good.
14 days Trial and information here:
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/pocketpc-software/mobileshell/
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I greatly agree. SPB Shell is 10 times better and user friendlier then TF2D. I had TF2D for about a week and tried out SPB Shell 3.5 and I have never gone back. I am one happy customer.