Video performance -a HUGE let down? - Touch HD General

I tested the video performance, and compared it with my three handhelds (HTC Touch Pro, HTC Universal and Samsung Omnia.)
Test performed on a 3 min music video (480x640, 25 fps, 44100 Hz, 574 kbit/s), with coreplayer 1.2.5, and optimal settings for each device:
Omnia:
Raw framebuffer: 442.74%
Universal:
Direct Draw: 165.28%
Touch Pro:
QTv display: 152.44%
Smooth Zoom and Dither turned off on each device!
So in conclusion, Omnia wins by a huge 277.46% over the next best device that is the Universal. And even then the Universal is 12.84% better then the Touch Pro!
Please bare in mind that the Universal is a three years old device with only 64MB ram, while Touch pro is brand new and 288MB ram! They have same clock speed but Touch pro is supposed to have a better/newer chipset then the Universal!
There is no doubt in my mind anymore, Touch pro is missing the video drivers, or could it just be that qualcomm chipset just sucks?
Why am I posting this here? Well, becouse I was considering buying the HD, but sense it has the same specs as the Touch Pro and even bigger resolution screen, I just dont know! I fear that it is going to be as crappy in performance as the TP, if not even worse?
Please help me out here guys!

Touch Pro ?

Coreplayer does not yet have hardware support for the QTV chipset in HTC Touch HD. It will get soon however according to this thread and then the performance will improve a lot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446620&highlight=coreplayer
Also the built-in Windows Media Player uses hardware acceleration. It is a bit limited in the codecs it support however.

branko.savic said:
I tested the video performance, and compared it with my three handhelds (HTC Touch Pro, HTC Universal and Samsung Omnia.)
Test performed on a 3 min music video (480x640, 25 fps, 44100 Hz, 574 kbit/s), with coreplayer 1.2.5, and optimal settings for each device:
Omnia:
Raw framebuffer: 442.74%
Universal:
Direct Draw: 165.28%
Touch Pro:
QTv display: 152.44%
Smooth Zoom and Dither turned off on each device!
So in conclusion, Omnia wins by a huge 277.46% over the next best device that is the Universal. And even then the Universal is 12.84% better then the Touch Pro!
Please bare in mind that the Universal is a three years old device with only 64MB ram, while Touch pro is brand new and 288MB ram! They have same clock speed but Touch pro is supposed to have a better/newer chipset then the Universal!
There is no doubt in my mind anymore, Touch pro is missing the video drivers, or could it just be that qualcomm chipset just sucks?
Why am I posting this here? Well, becouse I was considering buying the HD, but sense it has the same specs as the Touch Pro and even bigger resolution screen, I just dont know! I fear that it is going to be as crappy in performance as the TP, if not even worse?
Please help me out here guys!
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I currently have, an omnia, an iPhone, a TyTN II, & 3x Touch HD's( long story) but I find video playback on just looks alone the iphone looks the best ( bear in mind you have to convert video for the iphone though as in it can't play your standard xvid files). Touch HD would be my overall winner because on looks alone it is very close to the iphone but it plays files converted for the iphone as well as xvid & divx movies. Depending on the movie I have noticed some caching but if you follow the sticky you can clear this up. The Omnia follows but imho the video quality is not as good as the HD, not to mention I had quite a few problems with mines with a total of 8x replacements not to mention the weekly rom updates thanks to secany, but overall the HD is the best phone I've had so far.
Peter.

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HTC Firestone - new images!

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http://hitech.sanook.com/technology/news_12626.php
Enjoy - looks like a decent successor to Touch HD!
The real successor to the HD will probably be the HTC Leo/Superstar. The Firestone seems to be settled between the Superstar and the Diamond 2. Unfortunately there's no picture of the Superstar yet. All we know is that it will have the nVidia Tegra chip with 600MHz processor, a 3.8" display and 512MB ROM/ 256MB RAM.
Naaa! It isn't a decent successor to HD: only CPU 600Mhz and maybe new Manila.
If I'll buy a new phone after HD it will be a turning point device not a restyling..
D'rath
I love my HD, but I´m guessing the omnia II will be my next.
I really hate the HTC camera, I got better videos and photo with my old 2mp Nokia. I read that the Firestone may have the same small lens problem with the camera.
I love my HD, but I´m guessing the omnia II will be my next.
I really hate the HTC camera, I got better videos and photo with my old 2mp Nokia. I read that the Firestone may have the same small lens problem with the camera.

HTC HD3 Specs

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/32068/htc-hd3-windows-phone-7
According to our tipster, who also happens to run his own website, the HTC HD3 will come with a massive
4.5-inch AMOLED screen with 1280 × 800 resolution, 1.5GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon processor, 1080p HD
video playback, 720p HD video recording, 8-megapixel camera with dual-LED flash, WiFi, Bluetooth and 3G
connectivity, 4G connectivity for blisteringly fast downloads that are over ten times as fast as today’s
HSDPA phones, 1GB onboard RAM, 32GB external memory, 3.5-inch headphone jack, and HDMI output
for connecting to your HDTV or monitor.
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Lots in there to be suspicious about.
that is blatently someones pipe dream
Audio Oblivion said:
that is blatently someones pipe dream
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i agree ¬¬'
Definitely. Would be good though
With anything larger than 4.3" screen, the device would really begin to become uncomfortable to use. Even as much as I like the screen on the HD2, sometimes it feels gigantic for 1 hand functions. Those specs sound more like a tablet than a phone.
Where can I preorder ?
Hey man! That sounds so plausible, but it's not actually true. I got the HD3 specs from my mate, Mr. Taiwanese who works for HTC and he's got a HD3.
The real specs are...
Screen Size 42" diagonal
Screen Aspect 16:9
Contrast Ratio [not published]
Brightness 500cd/m2
Pixel Pitch 0.68mm x 0.68mm
hSync [not published]
vSync [not published]
Color System [not published]
Data Signals PC signals up to 1600 x 1200
TV Scan Lines 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i
Input Terminals
Composite Video 1 (BNC)
S-Video 1 (4-pin mini DIN)
VGA RGB Signal 1 (15-pin mini d-Sub)
DVI Digital Input 1
Serial Control (RS232C) 1 (9-pin mini d-Sub)
Output Terminals
Accessories
Audio Amplifier 7W x 2
Speakers Optional
Mounting Options Optional Mount Required
Also Included:
DVI-D Cable
AC Power Cord
Operating Instructions
AC Plug Holder (2)
AA/R6 Size Battery (2)
Cable Holder (4)
Remote Control
Dimensions and General Specs.
Power Supply 100-120V @ 50-60Hz
Power Consumption 240 Watts
Dimensions 40.7" x 24.4" x 4.9"
Weight 62.70 lbs.
FCC Class FCC Class B, Home Use
So false it's funny
The "original" news source reports a leaflet with the size of the device. 65mm*115mm*10mm. I can easily suppose there's potential to make it even thinner, but there's no way it can be smaller with a bigger screen.
Loving the "more big" scribbles on the picture ... lol
1280 × 800 resolution is not supported in 7 Series, from what I have heard.
And I don't think they will launch the HD3 with WM 6.5.3. ROFL
Either the Resolution is wrong/fake, or this whole rumor = BS.
EDIT: Is 1280 × 800 resolution supported in 6.5.3 btw? Wait... Argh, I am wasting my time...
azalex86 said:
With anything larger than 4.3" screen, the device would really begin to become uncomfortable to use.
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Yep, would be going down the iPad direction, to big for its use. The HD2 size is as big as I would want a mobile phone to be.
On the 'tipster' link which goes to the "source of the information" (http://mobilementalism.com/2010/03/15/leaked-pics-and-specs-of-htc-hd3-one-word-stunning/) there are a few pictures and one is a low quality list of specifications...
On this picture (http://mobilementalism.com/imageSnag/3768-4b9e890364290.jpg) note the words:
Front camera: video call
Show me the front camera on any of the included pictures...
Blatent crock of <censored>!
(sighes, shakes head and sighes again)
I like how it says As you can see from the pics, it’s the real deal – it’s definitely not vapourware.
Cant believe no one has picked up on the fact that those specs say "32GB external memory".
Windows Phone 7 series has no removable storage support.
FAIL
Audio Oblivion said:
Cant believe no one has picked up on the fact that those specs say "32GB external memory".
Windows Phone 7 series has no removable storage support.
FAIL
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and reslution supported is only 800x400
compact_bijou said:
According to our tipster, who also happens to run his own website, the HTC HD3 will come with a massive
4.5-inch AMOLED screen with 1280 × 800 resolution, 1.5GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon processor, 1080p HD
video playback, 720p HD video recording, 8-megapixel camera with dual-LED flash, WiFi, Bluetooth and 3G
connectivity, 4G connectivity for blisteringly fast downloads that are over ten times as fast as today’s
HSDPA phones, 1GB onboard RAM, 32GB external memory, 3.5-inch headphone jack, and HDMI output
for connecting to your HDTV or monitor.
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and about 30 minutes of battery life...
Let´s face it: if HTC builds the HD3 we don´t need that crappy WM7 which is of no good for nuthin`, just for stups that are barely able to handle an iPhone.
HD3 should run a stripped version of WinXP, cause with the roumored specs it plays the same league as Sony VAIO P, only better
the specs are slightly fake as it does say 32GB external memory which isn't allowed...for WM7 phones
Actually, apart from the screen, those specs seem quite similar to those of the HTC EVO.
It should have 32gb built in mem like the iPhone
why HTC doesnt do that ?

[CLOSED/DZ] Device Videos

HTC just announced the Desire Z version of their "Vision" handset that is identical to the G2. It runs a newer version of HTC Sense that's got a lot of nice new enhancements. I expect G2 owners will want to port this in a hurry.
Desire Z will be available in October in Europe and Asia only.
Check out this "Fast Boot" --- boots in like 4 seconds::: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpWPMens9C8
YouTube video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERH9BoU64pw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXnCOhvoqgw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FAIlKN2u5M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwiNDsZNRag
Specifications (from here):
800 MHz Qualcomm Scorpion
Qualcomm MSM7230
2x faster than Snapdragon CPU
5x better than Snapdragon GPU
Android 2.2 w/ HTC Sense
3.7 inch display
800 x 480 resolution
SLCD technology
5 megapixel camera
LED flash
720p HD recording
HSPA+ integration
WiFi b/g/n
Size: 4.7 x 2.4 x 0.6 inches
Weight: 6.5 ounces
Battery: 1300 mAh Lion
Talk time: up to 6.5 hours
Standby time: up to 17.5 days
Pop-out QWERTY keyboard
Four rows
Programmable “quick access” keys
4GB of internal memory
Full aluminum body
HTC Fast Boot
Pre-installed 8GB microSD card
GPS with A-GPS
DLNA Streaming and Media Sharing
3.5 mm stereo audio jack
micro-USB (5-pin micro-USB 2.0)
Audio supported formats – Playback: .aac, .amr, .ogg, .m4a, .mid, .mp3, .wav, .wma (Windows Media Audio 9)
Video supported formats – Playback: .3gp, .3g2, .mp4, .wmv (Windows Media Video 9)
Ambient light sensor
Proximity sensor
Digital compass
On the Dutch website tweakers.net they talk about a AMOLED screen?
http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/266186/htc-desire-z-grijs.html#tab:info
Anyone can clear this up?
About the second video by briefmobile. Did I get it right? The new Sense is only for the HD?
I can't see amount of RAM in specs - does anybody know how much of memory will be installed in this phone?
New version of sense seems to be also on Desire Z (see the right button)
raven_raven said:
I can't see amount of RAM in specs - does anybody know how much of memory will be installed in this phone?
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512 MB according to http://www.htc.com/uk/product/desirez/specification.html
Quite a bit of video in our visit to the HTC Event in London today -
http://hemorrdroids.net/htc-london-after-party/
Yes, 512Mo, sorry was talking about Desire HD :/
steviewevie said:
512 MB according to http://www.htc.com/uk/product/desirez/specification.html
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Why not 768MB like HD?
schriss said:
Why not 768MB like HD?
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Probably just to differentiate from the HD and help justify charging more for the HD. Does it really matter though ?

Samsung Galaxy S2 vs HTC Sensation

HTC Sensation or Galaxy S2?
Torn between these dual core beasts.
Just a very small overview:
HTC:
Screen
Battery
Internal storage (1GB lol)
VGA Front Cam
RAM
Weight. 148 gr. Holy Moly. We should send the phone to fat ca...errr weight management retreat lol
screen resolution: qHD
HTC Sense
Galaxy:
All things HTC has red are better
The thing HTC has green
Easy decision for me.
I think Galaxy S2 is better.... at least in Korea.rep
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sensation is running gingerbread..
@OP, C'mon there are tons of threads to talk about this comparison use the damn search button !!
Sense vs TouchWiz if a slapped on interface matters, sense is lovely! Hardware wise SG2 wins.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
both are good phones and you cant go wrong with any. however. i believe the GS2 is better specd hardware. better GPU. better screen in terms of colors. there is no even lag in scrolling at the browser.
the only advantage you will have with the HTC if you call it an advantage is the HTC S 3.0 and i wouldnt call it an advantage.
besides. and the most important factor you need to consider. the HTC now is using a Locked bootloader. meaning you wont get custom roms for sure. and considering how the incredible S is been locked for 3 months now without any luck to open it. i would say avoid HTC phones for now
i will not even buy the HTC for 100$. locked bootloader = useless phone for me.
i learned that the hard way from the atrix. and never again.
Having a lower weight does not necessarily mean 'better'. I think build quality in terms of materials (partial reason of the higher weight) is another plus for the Sensation. On the other hand, I prefer the dimensions and shape of the S2.
Furthermore the Sensation's camera has an instant capture feature but the S2 cam has a pretty fast capture too.
Looking at all the + and - I think the S2 is the overall winner.
^^^
Very true, imagine when the sgs2 gets cm7 or darky rom!
It's blazing fast on stock!
Guitarfreak26 said:
^^^
Very true, imagine when the sgs2 gets cm7 or darky rom!
It's blazing fast on stock!
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I wouldn't want to put CM7 on that as the browser would loose any GPU acceleration and be as crappy as other dual core phone, I'll take it as it is with all the optimization from samsung included for performance and battery life
ll_l_x_l_ll said:
both are good phones and you cant go wrong with any. however. i believe the GS2 is better specd hardware. better GPU. better screen in terms of colors. there is no even lag in scrolling at the browser.
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We don't know that yet, so far the benchmarks indicate that the Adreno 220 GPU inside is quicker than the Mali-400 in the Samsung, I still find it hard to believe considering the mali-400 is quad core, so maybe the benchmark is not up to date with quad-core graphics processor's.
saveferris said:
We don't know that yet, so far the benchmarks indicate that the Adreno 220 GPU inside is quicker than the Mali-400 in the Samsung, I still find it hard to believe considering the mali-400 is quad core, so maybe the benchmark is not up to date with quad-core graphics processor's.
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what ???? isnt adreno 220 GPU is the same was used in Desire HD and Xperia Play ?
if so, thats more reason to avoid the Sensation. because that GPU is lower than the Nexus S GPU. let alone come close to SG2. that thing will do marathon around the Adreno 220 and that is based both trying to run Nintendo 64 Emulator at the same time same game.
hell i just hope you made a typo and you are not talking about that old horrible GPU :/
Here is a poll for you: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=995752
I do not understand how HTC can build such a ****.
Do not or can not?
ll_l_x_l_ll said:
what ???? isnt adreno 220 GPU is the same was used in Desire HD and Xperia Play ?
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Nope thats the 205
saveferris said:
Nope thats the 205
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oh ok then. i thought its the same GPU. i was about to throw you out of the window lol
we will see. honestly i dont have high hopes for it because the 205 came after the hummingbird and still sucked compared to it.
Is this thread still going on, frankly there is no competition with the SGS2, here's a brief summary:
The Galaxy S2 is out May 1st (phones4u will release on 27 Apr), it will be the king of superphones for a while yet: Most powerfull 1.2 Dual core CPU/GPU combo (yes much better than HTC Sensation), Thinnest phone in the world (8.49mm compared to the Sony Arc 8.7mm and Iphone 4 (around 9.2mm i believe), Best screen tech in the world (exclusive to Samsung - Super Amoled Plus) see below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016334
MHL which is micro USB/HDMI in one, and lets you control the phone through a remote of a MHL enabled tv, Wifi direct - access your phone through wifi and any browser, the list is extensive, check out the comparison to its nearest competitor that was anounced recently(the HTC Sensation):
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3621&idPhone2=3922
The SGS2 is an amazing phone, 1080p recording check out the video comparison here (click the comparison tool at the bottom to compare videos with iphone 4 and Nokia N8 - also youtube has many other SGS2 1080p samples):
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_ii_vs_lg_optimus_2x-review-585p4.php
3d capabilities here:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/03/samsungs-exynos-4210-flexes-3d-gaming-muscle-at-gdc-2011-video/
many youtube videos detailing amazing things like motion control zoom in-out, face recognition lock screen, front cam is 2mp, better than most phones back camera,NFC, Gorilla Glass, etc...basically think of a feature and the SGS 2 will probably have it.
also see below:
mur76 said:
Is this thread still going on, frankly there is no competition with the SGS2, here's a brief summary:
The Galaxy S2 is out May 1st (phones4u will release on 27 Apr), it will be the king of superphones for a while yet: Most powerfull 1.2 Dual core CPU/GPU combo (yes much better than HTC Sensation), Thinnest phone in the world (8.49mm compared to the Sony Arc 8.7mm and Iphone 4 (around 9.2mm i believe), Best screen tech in the world (exclusive to Samsung - Super Amoled Plus) see below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016334
MHL which is micro USB/HDMI in one, and lets you control the phone through a remote of a MHL enabled tv, Wifi direct - access your phone through wifi and any browser, the list is extensive, check out the comparison to its nearest competitor that was anounced recently(the HTC Sensation):
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3621&idPhone2=3922
The SGS2 is an amazing phone, 1080p recording check out the video comparison here (click the comparison tool at the bottom to compare videos with iphone 4 and Nokia N8 - also youtube has many other SGS2 1080p samples):
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_ii_vs_lg_optimus_2x-review-585p4.php
3d capabilities here:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/03/samsungs-exynos-4210-flexes-3d-gaming-muscle-at-gdc-2011-video/
many youtube videos detailing amazing things like motion control zoom in-out, face recognition lock screen, front cam is 2mp, better than most phones back camera,NFC, Gorilla Glass, etc...basically think of a feature and the SGS 2 will probably have it.
also see below:
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Just want to say : HTC Sensation also has Gorilla Glass. And NFC is not yet confirmed on all models :/...
And also
PS : I Didn't add the SoC though the Mali-400(Galaxy S2) probably is going to be a better GPU, but we can't verify for now. And Bootloader is probably not locked on Galaxy S2 but for the HTC Sensation it is quite sure.
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mur76 said:
Is this thread still going on, frankly there is no competition with the SGS2, here's a brief summary:
The Galaxy S2 is out May 1st (phones4u will release on 27 Apr), it will be the king of superphones for a while yet: Most powerfull 1.2 Dual core CPU/GPU combo (yes much better than HTC Sensation), Thinnest phone in the world (8.49mm compared to the Sony Arc 8.7mm and Iphone 4 (around 9.2mm i believe), Best screen tech in the world (exclusive to Samsung - Super Amoled Plus) see below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016334
MHL which is micro USB/HDMI in one, and lets you control the phone through a remote of a MHL enabled tv, Wifi direct - access your phone through wifi and any browser, the list is extensive, check out the comparison to its nearest competitor that was anounced recently(the HTC Sensation):
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3621&idPhone2=3922
The SGS2 is an amazing phone, 1080p recording check out the video comparison here (click the comparison tool at the bottom to compare videos with iphone 4 and Nokia N8 - also youtube has many other SGS2 1080p samples):
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_ii_vs_lg_optimus_2x-review-585p4.php
3d capabilities here:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/03/samsungs-exynos-4210-flexes-3d-gaming-muscle-at-gdc-2011-video/
many youtube videos detailing amazing things like motion control zoom in-out, face recognition lock screen, front cam is 2mp, better than most phones back camera,NFC, Gorilla Glass, etc...basically think of a feature and the SGS 2 will probably have it.
also see below:
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r there any vids showing the face recognition lock screen? I didnt know about that..seems like a good feature to have
saveferris said:
We don't know that yet, so far the benchmarks indicate that the Adreno 220 GPU inside is quicker than the Mali-400 in the Samsung, I still find it hard to believe considering the mali-400 is quad core, so maybe the benchmark is not up to date with quad-core graphics processor's.
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You cannot compare the number of cores on a GPU unless it is the same architecture, it doesn't make sense at all.
A single core GPU can easily be ten times faster than quad core GPU. It is just how they choose to arrange the GPU-architecture in order to have versions with different speeds.
In fact, even a 300$ gaming card for PC's is single core.
k87 said:
r there any vids showing the face recognition lock screen? I didnt know about that..seems like a good feature to have
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Don't be disgusted of womens because of this video, it's only to show face recognition!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6873r6Skm8

[NEW] Zidoo X6 Pro Review

Hi people I have opportunity to introduce to you high quality media player from company Zidoo.
In this review I will present to you their newest model called X6 Pro. Okay about packaging,
you will get next items: remote control, power adapter, device, HDMI cable and of course short user manual.
Design and build
For someone who is going to buy a new media player, I think that design is not most important feature.
But anyway from what I can see it has very similar design comparing with other players. It is small and very thin,
so you can place it anywhere in the room. Talking about the build quality according to the company the case is
made from combination of aluminum and plastic. Overall I am very satisfied with design and build quality.
Performance and benchmark testing
For me Zidoo X6 Pro is beast because it has really strong hardware like 64 bit Octa Core CPU Rockchip RK3368
and 2 GB of RAM. For storage they have prepared 16 GB memory but you can upgrade if this is not enough for
you using the microSD card up to 32 GB.
Also the GPU is SGX6110 which supports H.265 and H.264 at 2K or 4K. Except strong hardware it is very important
also to have good optimized operating system. On this point I am very satisfied because Zidoo company
offers great after sale support. They often offer new updates to get more stable OS. So I was not disappointed
because everything was working perfect from every day use, KODI, playing games to watching movies.
Also I have tested the device with several benchmark test apps and below you can see test results.
subtitles works just fine :good:
Darling, I'm not gonna hurt you. I'm just gonna bash your brains in. :laugh:
Conclusion
Overall I am very satisfied with the Zidoo X6 Pro, because it offers high quality, superb after sale support,
strong hardware and affordable price which is around $100 and you can if you want buy it at Amazon.
For more information please visit the official website or this blog

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