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Video performance -a HUGE let down?

I tested the video performance, and compared it with my three handhelds (HTC Touch Pro, HTC Universal and Samsung Omnia.)
Test performed on a 3 min music video (480x640, 25 fps, 44100 Hz, 574 kbit/s), with coreplayer 1.2.5, and optimal settings for each device:
Omnia:
Raw framebuffer: 442.74%
Universal:
Direct Draw: 165.28%
Touch Pro:
QTv display: 152.44%
Smooth Zoom and Dither turned off on each device!
So in conclusion, Omnia wins by a huge 277.46% over the next best device that is the Universal. And even then the Universal is 12.84% better then the Touch Pro!
Please bare in mind that the Universal is a three years old device with only 64MB ram, while Touch pro is brand new and 288MB ram! They have same clock speed but Touch pro is supposed to have a better/newer chipset then the Universal!
There is no doubt in my mind anymore, Touch pro is missing the video drivers, or could it just be that qualcomm chipset just sucks?
Why am I posting this here? Well, becouse I was considering buying the HD, but sense it has the same specs as the Touch Pro and even bigger resolution screen, I just dont know! I fear that it is going to be as crappy in performance as the TP, if not even worse?
Please help me out here guys!

Touch Pro ?

Coreplayer does not yet have hardware support for the QTV chipset in HTC Touch HD. It will get soon however according to this thread and then the performance will improve a lot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446620&highlight=coreplayer
Also the built-in Windows Media Player uses hardware acceleration. It is a bit limited in the codecs it support however.

branko.savic said:
I tested the video performance, and compared it with my three handhelds (HTC Touch Pro, HTC Universal and Samsung Omnia.)
Test performed on a 3 min music video (480x640, 25 fps, 44100 Hz, 574 kbit/s), with coreplayer 1.2.5, and optimal settings for each device:
Omnia:
Raw framebuffer: 442.74%
Universal:
Direct Draw: 165.28%
Touch Pro:
QTv display: 152.44%
Smooth Zoom and Dither turned off on each device!
So in conclusion, Omnia wins by a huge 277.46% over the next best device that is the Universal. And even then the Universal is 12.84% better then the Touch Pro!
Please bare in mind that the Universal is a three years old device with only 64MB ram, while Touch pro is brand new and 288MB ram! They have same clock speed but Touch pro is supposed to have a better/newer chipset then the Universal!
There is no doubt in my mind anymore, Touch pro is missing the video drivers, or could it just be that qualcomm chipset just sucks?
Why am I posting this here? Well, becouse I was considering buying the HD, but sense it has the same specs as the Touch Pro and even bigger resolution screen, I just dont know! I fear that it is going to be as crappy in performance as the TP, if not even worse?
Please help me out here guys!
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I currently have, an omnia, an iPhone, a TyTN II, & 3x Touch HD's( long story) but I find video playback on just looks alone the iphone looks the best ( bear in mind you have to convert video for the iphone though as in it can't play your standard xvid files). Touch HD would be my overall winner because on looks alone it is very close to the iphone but it plays files converted for the iphone as well as xvid & divx movies. Depending on the movie I have noticed some caching but if you follow the sticky you can clear this up. The Omnia follows but imho the video quality is not as good as the HD, not to mention I had quite a few problems with mines with a total of 8x replacements not to mention the weekly rom updates thanks to secany, but overall the HD is the best phone I've had so far.
Peter.

Samsung Galaxy S2 vs HTC Sensation

HTC Sensation or Galaxy S2?
Torn between these dual core beasts.

Just a very small overview:
HTC:
Screen
Battery
Internal storage (1GB lol)
VGA Front Cam
RAM
Weight. 148 gr. Holy Moly. We should send the phone to fat ca...errr weight management retreat lol
screen resolution: qHD
HTC Sense
Galaxy:
All things HTC has red are better
The thing HTC has green
Easy decision for me.

I think Galaxy S2 is better.... at least in Korea.rep
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sensation is running gingerbread..
@OP, C'mon there are tons of threads to talk about this comparison use the damn search button !!

Sense vs TouchWiz if a slapped on interface matters, sense is lovely! Hardware wise SG2 wins.
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both are good phones and you cant go wrong with any. however. i believe the GS2 is better specd hardware. better GPU. better screen in terms of colors. there is no even lag in scrolling at the browser.
the only advantage you will have with the HTC if you call it an advantage is the HTC S 3.0 and i wouldnt call it an advantage.
besides. and the most important factor you need to consider. the HTC now is using a Locked bootloader. meaning you wont get custom roms for sure. and considering how the incredible S is been locked for 3 months now without any luck to open it. i would say avoid HTC phones for now
i will not even buy the HTC for 100$. locked bootloader = useless phone for me.
i learned that the hard way from the atrix. and never again.

Having a lower weight does not necessarily mean 'better'. I think build quality in terms of materials (partial reason of the higher weight) is another plus for the Sensation. On the other hand, I prefer the dimensions and shape of the S2.
Furthermore the Sensation's camera has an instant capture feature but the S2 cam has a pretty fast capture too.
Looking at all the + and - I think the S2 is the overall winner.

^^^
Very true, imagine when the sgs2 gets cm7 or darky rom!
It's blazing fast on stock!

Guitarfreak26 said:
^^^
Very true, imagine when the sgs2 gets cm7 or darky rom!
It's blazing fast on stock!
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I wouldn't want to put CM7 on that as the browser would loose any GPU acceleration and be as crappy as other dual core phone, I'll take it as it is with all the optimization from samsung included for performance and battery life

ll_l_x_l_ll said:
both are good phones and you cant go wrong with any. however. i believe the GS2 is better specd hardware. better GPU. better screen in terms of colors. there is no even lag in scrolling at the browser.
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We don't know that yet, so far the benchmarks indicate that the Adreno 220 GPU inside is quicker than the Mali-400 in the Samsung, I still find it hard to believe considering the mali-400 is quad core, so maybe the benchmark is not up to date with quad-core graphics processor's.

saveferris said:
We don't know that yet, so far the benchmarks indicate that the Adreno 220 GPU inside is quicker than the Mali-400 in the Samsung, I still find it hard to believe considering the mali-400 is quad core, so maybe the benchmark is not up to date with quad-core graphics processor's.
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what ???? isnt adreno 220 GPU is the same was used in Desire HD and Xperia Play ?
if so, thats more reason to avoid the Sensation. because that GPU is lower than the Nexus S GPU. let alone come close to SG2. that thing will do marathon around the Adreno 220 and that is based both trying to run Nintendo 64 Emulator at the same time same game.
hell i just hope you made a typo and you are not talking about that old horrible GPU :/

Here is a poll for you: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=995752

I do not understand how HTC can build such a ****.
Do not or can not?

ll_l_x_l_ll said:
what ???? isnt adreno 220 GPU is the same was used in Desire HD and Xperia Play ?
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Nope thats the 205

saveferris said:
Nope thats the 205
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oh ok then. i thought its the same GPU. i was about to throw you out of the window lol
we will see. honestly i dont have high hopes for it because the 205 came after the hummingbird and still sucked compared to it.

Is this thread still going on, frankly there is no competition with the SGS2, here's a brief summary:
The Galaxy S2 is out May 1st (phones4u will release on 27 Apr), it will be the king of superphones for a while yet: Most powerfull 1.2 Dual core CPU/GPU combo (yes much better than HTC Sensation), Thinnest phone in the world (8.49mm compared to the Sony Arc 8.7mm and Iphone 4 (around 9.2mm i believe), Best screen tech in the world (exclusive to Samsung - Super Amoled Plus) see below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016334
MHL which is micro USB/HDMI in one, and lets you control the phone through a remote of a MHL enabled tv, Wifi direct - access your phone through wifi and any browser, the list is extensive, check out the comparison to its nearest competitor that was anounced recently(the HTC Sensation):
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3621&idPhone2=3922
The SGS2 is an amazing phone, 1080p recording check out the video comparison here (click the comparison tool at the bottom to compare videos with iphone 4 and Nokia N8 - also youtube has many other SGS2 1080p samples):
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_ii_vs_lg_optimus_2x-review-585p4.php
3d capabilities here:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/03/samsungs-exynos-4210-flexes-3d-gaming-muscle-at-gdc-2011-video/
many youtube videos detailing amazing things like motion control zoom in-out, face recognition lock screen, front cam is 2mp, better than most phones back camera,NFC, Gorilla Glass, etc...basically think of a feature and the SGS 2 will probably have it.
also see below:

mur76 said:
Is this thread still going on, frankly there is no competition with the SGS2, here's a brief summary:
The Galaxy S2 is out May 1st (phones4u will release on 27 Apr), it will be the king of superphones for a while yet: Most powerfull 1.2 Dual core CPU/GPU combo (yes much better than HTC Sensation), Thinnest phone in the world (8.49mm compared to the Sony Arc 8.7mm and Iphone 4 (around 9.2mm i believe), Best screen tech in the world (exclusive to Samsung - Super Amoled Plus) see below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016334
MHL which is micro USB/HDMI in one, and lets you control the phone through a remote of a MHL enabled tv, Wifi direct - access your phone through wifi and any browser, the list is extensive, check out the comparison to its nearest competitor that was anounced recently(the HTC Sensation):
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3621&idPhone2=3922
The SGS2 is an amazing phone, 1080p recording check out the video comparison here (click the comparison tool at the bottom to compare videos with iphone 4 and Nokia N8 - also youtube has many other SGS2 1080p samples):
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_ii_vs_lg_optimus_2x-review-585p4.php
3d capabilities here:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/03/samsungs-exynos-4210-flexes-3d-gaming-muscle-at-gdc-2011-video/
many youtube videos detailing amazing things like motion control zoom in-out, face recognition lock screen, front cam is 2mp, better than most phones back camera,NFC, Gorilla Glass, etc...basically think of a feature and the SGS 2 will probably have it.
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Just want to say : HTC Sensation also has Gorilla Glass. And NFC is not yet confirmed on all models :/...
And also
PS : I Didn't add the SoC though the Mali-400(Galaxy S2) probably is going to be a better GPU, but we can't verify for now. And Bootloader is probably not locked on Galaxy S2 but for the HTC Sensation it is quite sure.
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mur76 said:
Is this thread still going on, frankly there is no competition with the SGS2, here's a brief summary:
The Galaxy S2 is out May 1st (phones4u will release on 27 Apr), it will be the king of superphones for a while yet: Most powerfull 1.2 Dual core CPU/GPU combo (yes much better than HTC Sensation), Thinnest phone in the world (8.49mm compared to the Sony Arc 8.7mm and Iphone 4 (around 9.2mm i believe), Best screen tech in the world (exclusive to Samsung - Super Amoled Plus) see below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016334
MHL which is micro USB/HDMI in one, and lets you control the phone through a remote of a MHL enabled tv, Wifi direct - access your phone through wifi and any browser, the list is extensive, check out the comparison to its nearest competitor that was anounced recently(the HTC Sensation):
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3621&idPhone2=3922
The SGS2 is an amazing phone, 1080p recording check out the video comparison here (click the comparison tool at the bottom to compare videos with iphone 4 and Nokia N8 - also youtube has many other SGS2 1080p samples):
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_ii_vs_lg_optimus_2x-review-585p4.php
3d capabilities here:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/03/samsungs-exynos-4210-flexes-3d-gaming-muscle-at-gdc-2011-video/
many youtube videos detailing amazing things like motion control zoom in-out, face recognition lock screen, front cam is 2mp, better than most phones back camera,NFC, Gorilla Glass, etc...basically think of a feature and the SGS 2 will probably have it.
also see below:
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r there any vids showing the face recognition lock screen? I didnt know about that..seems like a good feature to have

saveferris said:
We don't know that yet, so far the benchmarks indicate that the Adreno 220 GPU inside is quicker than the Mali-400 in the Samsung, I still find it hard to believe considering the mali-400 is quad core, so maybe the benchmark is not up to date with quad-core graphics processor's.
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You cannot compare the number of cores on a GPU unless it is the same architecture, it doesn't make sense at all.
A single core GPU can easily be ten times faster than quad core GPU. It is just how they choose to arrange the GPU-architecture in order to have versions with different speeds.
In fact, even a 300$ gaming card for PC's is single core.

k87 said:
r there any vids showing the face recognition lock screen? I didnt know about that..seems like a good feature to have
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Don't be disgusted of womens because of this video, it's only to show face recognition!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6873r6Skm8

[Q] Xperia x8 ore x10 mini

I want to get a new phone and i may have lack of money so should i buy x8 if i don't have enough money ore should i wait a little and get money to buy x10 mini/mini pro?
I want to have many apps on phone and install roms,play games and browse internet.So what do you recommend?
Sorry for my bad english
+ i want that unlock slide tghing like on iphone to habe

look if you want, you can buy x8, it has a bigger display, but the difference is that x8 has 3mp, and x10mini/mini pro has 5mp camera, for games they aren't that good, you can maybe with luck get a -11W20 X8 so you can flash a custom kernel to get better results with games, but i would recommend you to wait so you can buy another phone with better specs! X8 is a great phone but with the same price or a bit more you can find better phones

in my contry x10 mini costs less than the x8, however i suggest you buy a lg optimus one, it costs about the same of these phones and has a bigger screen, my father has had one.

X10 mini has a more better camera 5mp with autofocus and led flash and picture quality is like with cheap photocamera (x8 only 3mp without autofocus and flash and picture is bad)! Screen size is small and resolution is smaler than ever android phone - 240*320 and many games not fit in display. X10 is small with good camera, but not designed for games. X8 has a better battery and display, but camera is same as on moust phones. For you purpose better is x8!

It also depends on ur thumb size tho cuz X10 mini is 2.55" while X8 is 3"
Cheers
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3d Hd2 clone with front faceing cam.

MTK HD2 T8585 HTC clone from China, Dual Sim/Windows Mobile 6.5, MTK 6516 processor dual core: 460Mhz + 280Mhz, 256MB ROM, 512MB RAM, Dual SIM standby. 4.3 inches Sharp AMOLED resistive touch screen, GPS, G-Sensor, MicroSD card 8GB, WIFI, Bluetooth, Two cameras front facing .3 MP and back facing 5 MP.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD3m2gC_O_Q
where can I buy this it looks amazing!
wonders if we can have windows phone 7.8 in 3d?
I so want to develop for this device!
Does anyone have any info please share!

3d... don't you mean it has spb shell 3d? i think you misunderstood that (or i did) for real like 3d, like the evo 3d.
also, http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Chinese_Clones_MTK6516_HD9
this is it most definitely. i think it's more than impossible to install windows phone on it, because of the specs. no qualcomm cpu, no bootloader like hd2, different specs....
Edit: this might be helpful too: http://bm-smartphone-reviews.blogspot.com/

HTC One M8 coming soon!

The HTC One's successor packs Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 and 4MP Ultrapixel camera
HTC M8 specs show Snapdragon 800 chip and 4MP Ultrapixel camera
Reports emerged earlier this week of a device thought to be the HTC M8, the successor model to the HTC One (M7), clocking up an impressive 36,000 score in AnTuTu.
Further investigation by AnTuTu's creators has revealed that this is indeed the work of a Snapdragon 800 chip.
While the HTC 0P6B120 doesn't use the HTC M8 name directly, it does seem pretty likely that it is the rumoured device as it uses a software build labelled "htc_m8-userdebug|4.4|KRT160".
The HTC M8 now seems to have a pretty well-rounded spec sheet thanks to the work of AnTuTu's team.
The spec line-up includes Android 4.4 KitKat, a Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 MSM8974AB chip with 2GB of RAM and an Adreno 330 graphics processor (GPU), 16GB of onboard storage and a 5-inch full HD 1080p display.
Also listed is a 2.1-megapixel primary camera and a 4-megapixel secondary. While no specific mention of HTC's Ultrapixel technology is made, the fact that it's rated at 4-megapixels suggests it is the very same hardware which appeared in the HTC One, which also packed optical image stabilisation (OIS).
It's a bit of a shame, as we noted in our HTC One review, the Ultrapixel tech would probably generate more impressive results were it associated with a higher megapixel rating of around 8-megapixels.
Still, HTC's implementation of the higher-rated Snapdragon chip looks to be a suitable boost all round on performance, if AnTuTu's bar charts are anything to go by.
Mysterious HTC device could be M8
The device has scored 36,532, a score to rival the LG G2 and the Sony Xperia Z1, on benchmarking software AnTuTu.
The result is higher than any other HTC-made smartphone and all we know at the moment is the model number which is HTC 0P6B120.
Blog of Mobile uploaded a screenshot of the benchmarking software result. With that kind of score its very likely the device includes a Snapdragon 800 chip meaning it must be HTC’s mightiest device.
The HTC One is now dating fast so the M8 successor must be near. Rumours still seem to point toward an early-2014 release date for the M8 and will most likely feature Android’s 4.4 KitKat OS.
@evleaks believes the M8 will have a 5-inch screen compared to the HTC One’s 4.7-inch panel.
HTC M8 Specs & Images leaked
So we already knew what HTC M8 – the successor to the HTC One – looks like. Now, thanks to @evleaks, we know more about its specs. According to them:
If they’re right, that means when HTC’s next flagship phone becomes official it’ll be the first HTC running a Snapdragon 800 chipset. But as GSMarena points out, while the specs look good now HTC could end up a “generation late”, as happened with the HTC One Max, “because Samsung is already developing its next-gen 64-bit processors for the Galaxy S5.”
Other leaked information suggests it'll launch with Android 4.4 KitKat straight out of the box along with HTC Sense 6.0, the next-generation of software which would be placed over the top of Android.
While this isn’t the first we’ve heard of the HTC M8 not much else is known about the handset. The one thing we can draw from it though, assuming that name is correct, is that it’ll be the direct successor to the HTC One flagship, which was dubbed the M7 while under development.
The images below appeared via Chinese leak source ePrice and only show the rear cover for the handset. It’s not clear whether the phone will sport a removable back panel like the HTC One Max or if it will be assembled as a sealed unit like the HTC One and HTC One Mini.
One confusing part of the design is a small round hole above the camera port. This can’t be the camera flash, as we can see a small flash port next to the main camera port. There’s no indication of what its purpose could be but it’s unlikely that it’s a fingerprint scanner as the HTC One Max featured a square design underneath the camera port.
Assuming that it’s not a fingerprint scanner it would appear HTC has ditched the digit scanning tech for its next flagship, which is just as well in our view as it was a bit naff on the One Max.
There’s been a lot of talk recently about eye scanners, particularly as Samsung is rumoured to be working on this kind of tech. Could this be what we’re looking at? Existing rumours suggest we could see a display between 5-inches and 5.2-inches, which would likely use HTC’s favourite SLCD technology and is thought to have a 2K resolution.
Qualcomm’s Snapdragon 800 quad-core chip has been fingered, which makes sense, and it’s believed HTC could pull a Samsung Galaxy Note 3 by opting for 3GB of RAM.
Quite what version of Android will be onboard is unknown but it’s either going to be 4.3 Jelly Bean or the brand new 4.4 KitKat, and it’s said there will be a new HTC Sense 6 UI overlay.
Almost as important – what the heck is it going to be called? We’ve had the HTC One, HTC One Max and HTC One Mini, but let’s not forget the old HTC One X, HTC One S, HTC One V, HTC One X+ and HTC One XL, just to take up a few more possible names. Where does that leave us? HTC Two? HTC One Plus? Your guess is as good as ours. There’s no clue as to when the HTC M8 will precisely arrive but a launch in 2014 seems a certainty.

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Hurt my eyes dude.

Lawd please dont use that camera again....
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