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I just got Nexus One, but look at this LG Apollo. My god, I want this one.
LG Apollo
-Launching: August/September 2010
-CPU: Qualcomm QSD8650; 1.3GHz
-CDMA + GSM (aka a World Phone); EvDO + HSDPA
-Device Size: 115 x 57.5 x 11.2 mm
-Memory (RAM/ROM): 1GB/1GB
-External Storage: MicroSD (up to 32GB)
-Screen Size/Type: 3.8-inch capacitive AMOLED “Multitouch Supported”
-Screen Resolution: WXGA 1280 x 720 px
-Camera: 10-megapixel with flash and autofocus; HD 720p [email protected] 30fps
-Video Support: Windows Media Video (WMV), MPEG-4 (MP4/M4V) H.264, DVR-MS4; Audio Support: Windows Media Audio (WMA), Advanced Audio Coding (AAC-LC), FairPlay DRM, MP3
-Battery: Removable 1400 mAh
-Talk Time: Up to 7.5 hours; Standby Time: 288 hours; Internet Use: 4.5 hours (3G), 6.5 hours (WiFi)
-Video Playback: 10 hours; Audio Playback: 30 hours
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/windows-mobile-7-megarumor-lg-apollo-and-htc-obsession-running/
ya the hardware is pretty impressive but its a windows mobile!
LG + WM = Yuck
...the specs are pretty nice though.
Definitely the specs are something to wow about. I been a windows user until the nexus one and plan to get HD2 and without a doubt this one just because of familiarity and the specs but IMO android is much better now that im here.
Fantastic specs.
Im assuming this will be what the Iphone 4g will be hardware wise as well.
2010 first year phones catch up to the Giga HD universe.
is the Screen Resolution: WXGA 1280 x 720 px possible?
my sony computer has a 4.5 inch screen with resolution of 1024*600. it looks awesome. a WXGA screen for a phone is too much.
I suspect someone has messed up the screen resolution with the video output capability.
I would never go for this phone.
It's an LG.
By that time there will be plenty of phones with as good or better specs from better vendors than LG.
The Official HTC HD3 Specifications from HTC Workers: Available: November 2010
- Processor: 1.5 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon: 1080p Video Ready
- RAM Memory: 1 GB
- ROM Memory: 1 GB
- Internal Memory: 16 GB
- External Memory: microSD Card Up to 32 GB
- Screen: 4,5-inch 1280 x 800 pixel 16 million color Multi-touch
- Camera: 8 megapixel Xenon flash, With HD Video Recording 1280 x 720 pixel
- Front Camera: Video Call And Chat
- 4G: Up to 100 Mbps
- WLAN: WiMAX And Wi-Fi
- OS: Windows Mobile 7
- Bluetooth: v2.1 with A2DP
- Ports: HDMI, USB 2.0, 3.5 mm audio Jack
- Video Support: Windows Media Video, HD Video, DivX, MPEG4, DVR-MS4
- Battery: 1800 mAH
- Talk Time: Up to 8 hours: Standby Time: Up to 300 hours, Internet-WiFi And 4G: Up to 7 Hours.
farid55 said:
The Official HTC HD3 Specifications from HTC Workers: Available: November 2010
- Processor: 1.5 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon: 1080p Video Ready
- RAM Memory: 1 GB
- ROM Memory: 1 GB
- Internal Memory: 16 GB
- External Memory: microSD Card Up to 32 GB
- Screen: 4,5-inch 1280 x 800 pixel 16 million color Multi-touch
- Camera: 8 megapixel Xenon flash, With HD Video Recording 1280 x 720 pixel
- Front Camera: Video Call And Chat
- 4G: Up to 100 Mbps
- WLAN: WiMAX And Wi-Fi
- OS: Windows Mobile 7
- Bluetooth: v2.1 with A2DP
- Ports: HDMI, USB 2.0, 3.5 mm audio Jack
- Video Support: Windows Media Video, HD Video, DivX, MPEG4, DVR-MS4
- Battery: 1800 mAH
- Talk Time: Up to 8 hours: Standby Time: Up to 300 hours, Internet-WiFi And 4G: Up to 7 Hours.
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LOL >>> Processor: 1.5 GHz with Battery: 1800 mAH is impossible to give you Talk Time: Up to 8 hours
Even now with the current specifications, we don't have 8 hours talk with 1GHz & 1200 mAH
So please do some calculations before doing copy and paste
farid55 said:
The Official HTC HD3 Specifications from HTC Workers: Available: November 2010
- Processor: 1.5 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon: 1080p Video Ready
- RAM Memory: 1 GB
- ROM Memory: 1 GB
- Internal Memory: 16 GB
- External Memory: microSD Card Up to 32 GB
- Screen: 4,5-inch 1280 x 800 pixel 16 million color Multi-touch
- Camera: 8 megapixel Xenon flash, With HD Video Recording 1280 x 720 pixel
- Front Camera: Video Call And Chat
- 4G: Up to 100 Mbps
- WLAN: WiMAX And Wi-Fi
- OS: Windows Mobile 7
- Bluetooth: v2.1 with A2DP
- Ports: HDMI, USB 2.0, 3.5 mm audio Jack
- Video Support: Windows Media Video, HD Video, DivX, MPEG4, DVR-MS4
- Battery: 1800 mAH
- Talk Time: Up to 8 hours: Standby Time: Up to 300 hours, Internet-WiFi And 4G: Up to 7 Hours.
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so ?
june 2011 comes the hd4, feburary 2012 comes the hd5........
HTC HD3
Is this serious ??? I feel that I paid so much for my HD2 ...cause I suppose this new device will cost almost the same what I paid for my HD2
SOLRAC13 said:
LOL >>> Processor: 1.5 GHz with Battery: 1800 mAH is impossible to give you Talk Time: Up to 8 hours
Even now with the current specifications, we don't have 8 hours talk with 1GHz & 1200 mAH
So please do some calculations before doing copy and paste
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With more intelligent processor scaling who knows what's possible. Maybe it drops way down and shuts the screen off while talking. A near hibernation mode with only essentials running.
nothing new...
just the "standart" speculations- what COULD be in future...
wheres the source?
a chinese board?
lol ofc!
This sh*t again? It is obvious fake...
I wish these kids would grow up and stop posting fake specs on the forum.
WE'RE NOT DUMB ENOUGH TO BELIEVE YOU.
You guys do know that this thread will be closed pretty soon, just like the last one, right?
Who cares about the specs... I think HTC should just focus on getting the basics right first, such as building a device that is stable, relatively bug free and can handle the most fundamental phone functions, such as sending SMS properly. Then perhaps they could impress a bit and these specs would start to sound attractive...
This is just a rumour created by someone with an imaginative mind which a number of people have latched onto. A number of other threads have also been created
Thread closed
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/32068/htc-hd3-windows-phone-7
According to our tipster, who also happens to run his own website, the HTC HD3 will come with a massive
4.5-inch AMOLED screen with 1280 × 800 resolution, 1.5GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon processor, 1080p HD
video playback, 720p HD video recording, 8-megapixel camera with dual-LED flash, WiFi, Bluetooth and 3G
connectivity, 4G connectivity for blisteringly fast downloads that are over ten times as fast as today’s
HSDPA phones, 1GB onboard RAM, 32GB external memory, 3.5-inch headphone jack, and HDMI output
for connecting to your HDTV or monitor.
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Lots in there to be suspicious about.
that is blatently someones pipe dream
Audio Oblivion said:
that is blatently someones pipe dream
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i agree ¬¬'
Definitely. Would be good though
With anything larger than 4.3" screen, the device would really begin to become uncomfortable to use. Even as much as I like the screen on the HD2, sometimes it feels gigantic for 1 hand functions. Those specs sound more like a tablet than a phone.
Where can I preorder ?
Hey man! That sounds so plausible, but it's not actually true. I got the HD3 specs from my mate, Mr. Taiwanese who works for HTC and he's got a HD3.
The real specs are...
Screen Size 42" diagonal
Screen Aspect 16:9
Contrast Ratio [not published]
Brightness 500cd/m2
Pixel Pitch 0.68mm x 0.68mm
hSync [not published]
vSync [not published]
Color System [not published]
Data Signals PC signals up to 1600 x 1200
TV Scan Lines 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i
Input Terminals
Composite Video 1 (BNC)
S-Video 1 (4-pin mini DIN)
VGA RGB Signal 1 (15-pin mini d-Sub)
DVI Digital Input 1
Serial Control (RS232C) 1 (9-pin mini d-Sub)
Output Terminals
Accessories
Audio Amplifier 7W x 2
Speakers Optional
Mounting Options Optional Mount Required
Also Included:
DVI-D Cable
AC Power Cord
Operating Instructions
AC Plug Holder (2)
AA/R6 Size Battery (2)
Cable Holder (4)
Remote Control
Dimensions and General Specs.
Power Supply 100-120V @ 50-60Hz
Power Consumption 240 Watts
Dimensions 40.7" x 24.4" x 4.9"
Weight 62.70 lbs.
FCC Class FCC Class B, Home Use
So false it's funny
The "original" news source reports a leaflet with the size of the device. 65mm*115mm*10mm. I can easily suppose there's potential to make it even thinner, but there's no way it can be smaller with a bigger screen.
Loving the "more big" scribbles on the picture ... lol
1280 × 800 resolution is not supported in 7 Series, from what I have heard.
And I don't think they will launch the HD3 with WM 6.5.3. ROFL
Either the Resolution is wrong/fake, or this whole rumor = BS.
EDIT: Is 1280 × 800 resolution supported in 6.5.3 btw? Wait... Argh, I am wasting my time...
azalex86 said:
With anything larger than 4.3" screen, the device would really begin to become uncomfortable to use.
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Yep, would be going down the iPad direction, to big for its use. The HD2 size is as big as I would want a mobile phone to be.
On the 'tipster' link which goes to the "source of the information" (http://mobilementalism.com/2010/03/15/leaked-pics-and-specs-of-htc-hd3-one-word-stunning/) there are a few pictures and one is a low quality list of specifications...
On this picture (http://mobilementalism.com/imageSnag/3768-4b9e890364290.jpg) note the words:
Front camera: video call
Show me the front camera on any of the included pictures...
Blatent crock of <censored>!
(sighes, shakes head and sighes again)
I like how it says As you can see from the pics, it’s the real deal – it’s definitely not vapourware.
Cant believe no one has picked up on the fact that those specs say "32GB external memory".
Windows Phone 7 series has no removable storage support.
FAIL
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Cant believe no one has picked up on the fact that those specs say "32GB external memory".
Windows Phone 7 series has no removable storage support.
FAIL
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and reslution supported is only 800x400
compact_bijou said:
According to our tipster, who also happens to run his own website, the HTC HD3 will come with a massive
4.5-inch AMOLED screen with 1280 × 800 resolution, 1.5GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon processor, 1080p HD
video playback, 720p HD video recording, 8-megapixel camera with dual-LED flash, WiFi, Bluetooth and 3G
connectivity, 4G connectivity for blisteringly fast downloads that are over ten times as fast as today’s
HSDPA phones, 1GB onboard RAM, 32GB external memory, 3.5-inch headphone jack, and HDMI output
for connecting to your HDTV or monitor.
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and about 30 minutes of battery life...
Let´s face it: if HTC builds the HD3 we don´t need that crappy WM7 which is of no good for nuthin`, just for stups that are barely able to handle an iPhone.
HD3 should run a stripped version of WinXP, cause with the roumored specs it plays the same league as Sony VAIO P, only better
the specs are slightly fake as it does say 32GB external memory which isn't allowed...for WM7 phones
Actually, apart from the screen, those specs seem quite similar to those of the HTC EVO.
It should have 32gb built in mem like the iPhone
why HTC doesnt do that ?
The Official HTC HD3 Specifications from HTC Workers:
- Processor: 1.5 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon: 1080p Video Ready
- HD Graphics Card 3D
- RAM Memory: 1 GB
- ROM Memory: 1 GB
- Internal Memory: 16 GB
- External Memory: microSD 3.0 Up to 64 GB
- Screen: 4,5" Super AMOLED 1280 x 800 pixel 16 million color Multi-touch
- Camera: 8 megapixel, With HD Video Recording 1280 x 720 pixel
- Front Camera: Video Call And Chat
- 4G: Up to 100 Mbps
- WLAN: WiMAX And Wi-Fi
- OS: Windows phone 7
- Bluetooth: 3.0
- Ports: HDMI, USB 2.0, 3.5 mm audio Jack
- Video Support: Windows Media Video, HD Video, DivX,MPEG4
- Battery: 1800 mAH
- Talk Time: Up to 8 hours, Internet-WiFi And 4G: Up to 7 Hours.
farid55 said:
The Official HTC HD3 Specifications from HTC Workers:
- Processor: 1.5 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon: 1080p Video Ready
- HD Graphics Card 3D
- RAM Memory: 1 GB
- ROM Memory: 1 GB
- Internal Memory: 16 GB
- External Memory: microSD 3.0 Up to 64 GB
- Screen: 4,5" Super AMOLED 1280 x 800 pixel 16 million color Multi-touch
- Camera: 8 megapixel, With HD Video Recording 1280 x 720 pixel
- Front Camera: Video Call And Chat
- 4G: Up to 100 Mbps
- WLAN: WiMAX And Wi-Fi
- OS: Windows Mobile 7
- Bluetooth: 3.0
- Ports: HDMI, USB 2.0, 3.5 mm audio Jack
- Video Support: Windows Media Video, HD Video, DivX,MPEG4
- Battery: 1800 mAH
- Talk Time: Up to 8 hours, Internet-WiFi And 4G: Up to 7 Hours.
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Windows "Mobile" 7? From "HTC workers?"
This can't be true.
HTC HD3
skylinepigeon said:
Windows "Mobile" 7? From "HTC workers?"
This can't be true.
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If it is true I want one
Still speculation at the moment.
Sounds great, albeit possibly a little TOO great.
4G intrigues yet scares me -watch it fry our little peas!
farid55 said:
The Official HTC HD3 Specifications from HTC Workers:
- Processor: 1.5 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon: 1080p Video Ready
- HD Graphics Card 3D
- RAM Memory: 1 GB
- ROM Memory: 1 GB
- Internal Memory: 16 GB
- External Memory: microSD 3.0 Up to 64 GB
- Screen: 4,5" Super AMOLED 1280 x 800 pixel 16 million color Multi-touch
- Camera: 8 megapixel, With HD Video Recording 1280 x 720 pixel
- Front Camera: Video Call And Chat
- 4G: Up to 100 Mbps
- WLAN: WiMAX And Wi-Fi
- OS: Windows Mobile 7
- Bluetooth: 3.0
- Ports: HDMI, USB 2.0, 3.5 mm audio Jack
- Video Support: Windows Media Video, HD Video, DivX,MPEG4
- Battery: 1800 mAH
- Talk Time: Up to 8 hours, Internet-WiFi And 4G: Up to 7 Hours.
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faaaaaaaaake.
looks fake to me since from what i had read WM7 will NOT support/allow external memory card (micro etc)
colint3 said:
If it is true I want one
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if the Specifications real, me too
Of course its fake someone just tried making a concept lol probably was bored
mbg19 said:
Of course its fake someone just tried making a concept lol probably was bored
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i think so too, but maybe coming some day with this Specifications
Jesus christ how many times is this going to get posted?
It's not true at all
lol... fake... the first poster even uses the same font and color that previous fake posts had
and to add another nail to the "fake" coffin. IF it ran W7S then it wouldnt have any external storage (as it mentions in the FAKE spec for micro sd cards up to 32gb)
Microsoft were very clear that all W7S phones would only use internal memory with no other memory slots or expansions available (ala iphone stylee)
If it is real, I will get one for sure
fake, not to mention...am I the only one that feels as though the HD2 is big enough as it is? 4.5" screen? good god, it wouldn't fit in my pockets, of that I'm sure.
Pooper said:
Jesus christ how many times is this going to get posted?
It's not true at all
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We post it because it bothers you.
Well, who REALLY knows ?
Specs sound VERY realistic.
And as a matter of fact: HTC is one of the big shots in WinMo-Phones and their devs are always at the leading edge. So they will tell MS: either You agree to an exception (external mSD) or we simply install WM 6.5.x or Android. Anyway MS looses chances to sell SW but who cares about MS?
WP7 or not. This dream machine will come, it´s only natural evolution using the latest available hardware .................
too bad that the fastest snapdragon that was just announced is the 1.2ghz dual core
nice try tho
ironcrotch said:
too bad that the fastest snapdragon that was just announced is the 1.2ghz dual core
nice try tho
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and it will not be used for smartphones till now it will target largerscreen tablets
Can a moderator/admin please lock this thread...
troed said:
Well, who REALLY knows ?
Specs sound VERY realistic.
And as a matter of fact: HTC is one of the big shots in WinMo-Phones and their devs are always at the leading edge. So they will tell MS: either You agree to an exception (external mSD) or we simply install WM 6.5.x or Android. Anyway MS looses chances to sell SW but who cares about MS?
WP7 or not. This dream machine will come, it´s only natural evolution using the latest available hardware .................
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Very realistic
Come on 1 GB of ram what for insane specs needs windows phone 7. And 1.5 GHZ dual core proccesor yeah ok it is possible.
But this specs are alomst capable to run windows xp. I think something like the htc mondrian is more realistic.
I just realized that according to what Google has already laid out, the HTC Desire Z with its 800 MHz processor doesn't meet the minimum specs standard to upgrade to Android 3.0 aka Gingerbread (at least not "officially") becaue the minimum requird spec is 1 GHz !!
I hope xda-devs comes up with a solution (overclocking ?? hybrid port ??)
because I love the form factor and the fact the Desire Z is HTC and has the latest sense UI
I'm very concerned... I don't want to invest on a phone that will become obsolete that fast !! (gingerbread is scheduled for december-january)
What do you guys think about this ??
The dark side (Droid 2 world edition) is tempting me...
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gtrab said:
I just realized that according to what Google has already laid out, the HTC Desire Z with its 800 MHz processor doesn't meet the minimum specs standard to upgrade to Android 3.0 aka Gingerbread (at least not "officially") becaue the minimum requird spec is 1 GHz !!
I hope xda-devs comes up with a solution (overclocking ?? hybrid port ??)
because I love the form factor and the fact the Desire Z is HTC and has the latest sense UI
I'm very concerned... I don't want to invest on a phone that will become obsolete that fast !! (gingerbread is scheduled for december-january)
What do you guys think about this ??
The dark side (Droid 2 world edition) is tempting me...
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For one you are in America right? So you can't get the Desire Z anyway, you can get the G2 though.
And secondly, this crap about Gingerbread requiring a 1Ghz processor to run was a rumour that Google debunked ages ago so please just get over it and wait like the rest of us to find out what exactly is happening with Gingerbread.
And in anycase the D2 World Edition is almost identical to the Desire Z/G2 anyway. HTC have the new CPU and GPU on these where as the D2 has the new CPU and same old GPU as the original so really they seem on par if this was your case for choosing that so you 'will definitely get Gingerbread'
gtrab said:
I just realized that according to what Google has already laid out, the HTC Desire Z with its 800 MHz processor doesn't meet the minimum specs standard to upgrade to Android 3.0 aka Gingerbread (at least not "officially") becaue the minimum requird spec is 1 GHz !!
I hope xda-devs comes up with a solution (overclocking ?? hybrid port ??)
because I love the form factor and the fact the Desire Z is HTC and has the latest sense UI
I'm very concerned... I don't want to invest on a phone that will become obsolete that fast !! (gingerbread is scheduled for december-january)
What do you guys think about this ??
The dark side (Droid 2 world edition) is tempting me...
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Besides, The Moto Droid 1 for example can OC to 1.2GHz the G2 should be fine
StuRoid said:
For one you are in America right? So you can't get the Desire Z anyway, you can get the G2 though.
And secondly, this crap about Gingerbread requiring a 1Ghz processor to run was a rumour that Google debunked ages ago so please just get over it and wait like the rest of us to find out what exactly is happening with Gingerbread.
And in anycase the D2 World Edition is almost identical to the Desire Z/G2 anyway. HTC have the new CPU and GPU on these where as the D2 has the new CPU and same old GPU as the original so really they seem on par if this was your case for choosing that so you 'will definitely get Gingerbread'
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I find your response very emotional, hey I obviously prefer an HTC device over a Moto one, but the upgradeability is very important for me. I need facts.
Regarding the american bands, pdadb says there's an US version Desire Z scheduled for december
If those google requirements have been 'debunked', I'd appreciate if you can share some links/quotations from trusted sources
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I find your response very emotional, hey I obviously prefer an HTC device over a Moto one, but the upgradeability is very important for me. I need facts.
Regarding the american bands, pdadb says there's an US version Desire Z scheduled for december
If those google requirements have been 'debunked', I'd appreciate if you can share some links/quotations from trusted sources
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I'm guessing the reason he seems "Emotional" is because this same post keeps popping up again and again on every forum, and it seems people will keep churning them out with no end in sight. The rumor is based on a tweet. There are tons of articles about this. (I haven't posted allot to this forum so can't actually post links, but just google for it.)
If you want to see the original statements by googles team you can search twitter for it. We have no reason to assume Desire Z wouldn't get a 3.0 update, if devices like Desire would. And at any rate, the Qualcomm 7230 (Which is the chip in use) is designed to run between 800 and 1000mhz.
The guys designing these devices aren't stupid. They wouldn't release a device (indeed a premier device) if it's going to go obsolete or at least behind within 6 months. Yes, droid devices are constantly moving forward but certainly not that fast. Just don't worry about this kinda stuff.
Thth are recommend specs the g2 will be plenty fast enough
Sent from my HTC Super Hero using XDA App which doesn't have the word iPhone in its vocabulary, and I wish I didn't either all on my custom baked Rom
The 800Mhz proc from the Desire Z is a Dual-Core processor, so, it's better than the 1Ghz proc from my good old HTC Desire ! I think it has the requirements for Gingerbread !
PS: Andy 3.0 isn't GingerBread
alex83fr said:
The 800Mhz proc from the Desire Z is a Dual-Core processor, so, it's better than the 1Ghz proc from my good old HTC Desire
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dual proccesor not dual-core. dual as in the cpu and gpu are separate.
mtl171 said:
dual proccesor not dual-core. dual as in the cpu and gpu are separate.
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Interresting.. Qustion is, if this 'slower' dual cpu, then will be faster, than the single CPU, with intergrated graphics, but higher mhz?
Da9L said:
Interresting.. Qustion is, if this 'slower' dual cpu, then will be faster, than the single CPU, with intergrated graphics, but higher mhz?
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Of course it will.. But mostly it will depend on operation. You can never compare a first 1 generation cpu with later generation by just looking at cpu frequency.
Any link to that supposedly "debunked" minimum hardware reqs ??
I'm lookinig for some confidence on this matter.
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is there anything else coming to the market with a qwerty hook up and touch screen?
Im over winmo and want to try an android phone.
Right now i have TP2 and b4 that i had Touch HD
Does Simbian suck?
I need something that i can use when i go to the UK as well, so like Droid X and all that stuff doesnt work for me.
I like this new HTC but everyone talking about 1ghz and dual processors and how its gonna be slow and no front facing cam blah blah blah makes me think twice, or three times even.
Frankly I think the front-facing camera thing is a bit of a white elephant at the moment. I've had one on my phone for about three years now (Win Mo) and I've never used it once. OK that may change as networks get faster, but I see no real need for one now.
Andre
johseph said:
is there anything else coming to the market with a qwerty hook up and touch screen?
Im over winmo and want to try an android phone.
Right now i have TP2 and b4 that i had Touch HD
Does Simbian suck?
I need something that i can use when i go to the UK as well, so like Droid X and all that stuff doesnt work for me.
I like this new HTC but everyone talking about 1ghz and dual processors and how its gonna be slow and no front facing cam blah blah blah makes me think twice, or three times even.
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There's that Verizon phone that's been floating around recently that had the fire red keyboard. if I'm not mistaken from one of the pics it's a dual mode and has a sim slot though to be honest you will likely pay a huge premium using that or any other phone like t outside the states.
Think it's either a 3.8" or 4" screen.
johseph said:
is there anything else coming to the market with a qwerty hook up and touch screen?
Im over winmo and want to try an android phone.
Right now i have TP2 and b4 that i had Touch HD
Does Simbian suck?
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I am looking to jump from Symbian to Android but am stuck due to the hardware. You might like to consider the Nokia E7 but it's anyone's guess as to when it might actually see the light of day. As an example, the N8 announced six months ago has still not gone on sale yet!
Symbian is functional but I'm afraid that's about all I can say about it from a user perspective. It doesn't have the developer support of the likes of Android and iOS. The point in its favour is the hardware is generally better - better cameras better audio and often better build quality.
Swings and roundabouts I'm afraid ... always the case!
Desire Z using second generation of Qualcomms Snapdragon, as i write in other post, read this:
My opinion : Desire Z is faster .. and do you know why?
So..
Desire HD using Qualcomm QSD8255 -> it is Snapdragon 1st generation
specifications:
Scorpion 1 GHz CPU
Integrated 3G mobile broadband connectivity
QSD8250 supports GSM, GPRS, EDGE and HSPA networks
QSD8650 supports CDMA2000 1X, 1xEV-DO Rel 0/A/B, GSM, GPRS, EDGE and HSPA networks
Low-power 65nm process technology
High-definition (720p) video recording and playback up to 30 frames per second
Multiple video codecs: (MPEG-4, H.264, H.263, VC-1, Sorenson Spark, VP6)
GPU - 3D graphics with up to 22M triangles/sec and 133M 3D pixels/sec
High-resolution up to WXGA (1280x720) display support
12-megapixel camera support
Built-in seventh-generation gps engine with Standalone-GPS and Assisted-GPS modes
Support for Wi-Fi® and Bluetooth® connectivity
Multiple audio codecs: (AAC+, eAAC+, AMR, FR, EFR, HR, WB-AMR, G.729a, G.711, AAC stereo encode)
Support for mobile broadcast TV (MediaFLO™, DVB-H and ISDB-T)
Support for Android™, Brew® Mobile Platform and Windows® Phone
Bud Desire Z using Qualcomm MSM7230 -> Snapdragon 2nd generation
Specifications:
Scorpion 800 MHz CPU (can be safely overclocked to 1GHz = Recommanded Maximum )
Integrated 3G mobile broadband connectivity
MSM7230 support for HSPA+ networks - up to 14 Mbps downloads and 5.76 Mbps uploads
MSM7630 support for HSPA+ networks - up to 14.4 Mbps downloads and 15.761 Mbps uploads – as well as CDMA2000 1X, 1xEV-DO Rel A/B, GSM, GPRS and EDGE
Low-power 45nm process technology for higher integration and performance
High-definition (720p) video recording and playback up to 30 frames per second
Multiple video codecs: (MPEG-4, H.264, H.263, VC-1, DivX, DivX 3.11, Sorenson Spark, VP6)
High-performance GPU - up to 41M triangles/sec and 245M 3D pixels/sec and dedicated 3D/2D acceleration engines for Open GLES 2.0 and Open VG 1.1 acceleration
High-resolution XGA (1024x768) display support
12-megapixel camera support
Built-in eighth-generation gps engine with Standalone-GPS and Assisted-GPS modes
Support for Wi-Fi® and Bluetooth® connectivity
Multiple audio codecs: (AAC+, eAAC+, AMR, FR, EFR, HR, WB-AMR, G.729a, G.711, AAC stereo encode)
Support for mobile broadcast TV (MediaFLO™, DVB-H and ISDB-T)
Support for Android™, Brew® Mobile Platform and Windows® Phone
So Desire Z have:
CPU on 800MHz .. but not problem go to 1GHz = Same as Desire HD
GPU 2 x better then Desire HD GPU = +1 to Desire Z
45nm technology - Desire HD have 65nm technology = +1 to Desire Z
So in SoC category is Desire Z better then Desire HD.
Regards, MiTMaN
PS: Repair me please when Im wrong.
nice contrib MiTMaNeK
that GPU thing is particularily interesting
thanks for sharing
Here's the Doird2/Milestone2's 1GHz OMAP 3620 specs
source
-Clock 1000 MHz
-45 nm
-ARM Cortex A8
-IVA 2+ harware accelerator (up to 4x multimedia performance vs previous OMAPs), Multi-standard (MPEG-4, H.264) encode/decode and WMV9 decode at D1 (720 x 480 pixels) at 30 fps - Up to 720p HD res
- PowerVR SGX 530 graphics core (from Imagination Technologies) dedicated 2D/3D graphics hardware accelerator - Support for OpenGL ES 1.1, Open GL ES 2.0, OpenVG
- Image signal processor supporting up to 12 megapixel
- Composite and S-video TV output
- up to WXGA (1280 x 800), 16-million color (24-bit definition) display support
- Linux, Microsoft Windows Mobile, Android Mobile Platform and Symbian
I couldn't find triangles/sec stuff for this one
Note also that this new GPU/CPU combo chip is different to the Snapdragon found in earlier HTC Androids. It is likely that 800MHz on this new chip bears similar performance to 1GHz on another chip.
This is very similar to comparing Intel and AMD CPUs on the desktop. Because different processor designs have varying Instructions-Per-Clock, you can't make a simple comparison between clock frequencies.
The other thing to note is that a major complaint with smart phones (and Android in particular) is terrible battery life when comparing them to feature phones. I'd be happy with a lower maximum clock if it meant longer times between charges.
i think Desire HD using 2nd Generation Snapdragon 1GHz processor which is call Qualcomm QSD825 Scorpion.
So, the Desire HD will should have better performance than Desire Z.
But Desire Z should have better performance than Desire(1st generation snapdragon).
You may check the CPU details at Qualcomm website.