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Touch Cruise Annoyances

So I bought this phone 2 days ago and it was working fine. But it quickly lost its "wow" factor after about 5 hours. I hadn't even installed any softwares on it other than what the dealer put into it, and in less than 24 hours I am already getting pissed at HTC. Oh yes, the phone is great and all, but HTC sucks at making phones.
1) Word completion was working fine in keyboard mode, but after switching to other HTC inputs and then back to keyboard, word completion with keyboard is now DEAD. Not even after a soft restart fixed it.
2) No light to indicate Bluetooth/Wifi switched on
3) No blinking light to indicate phone is running
4) Start menu doesn't have the "Click" sound
5) I can't assign the god damned GPS and footprint button to do something else, what a piece of crap!
6) TouchFLO isn't smart enough to detect if I want to select multiple objects, or if I want to scroll!
7) No option to do a software soft reset
8) Need to open the back cover to do a reset
9) Menu text IS WAY TOO BIG, HTC you blind idiots!
10) The system doesn't come out from standby when I receive an SMS, meaning I have to press the fragile power button to read it.
11) I can't uninstall TouchFLO or any of the other stupid HTC softwares.
12) Manuals were unhelpful.
I already feel like flashing the damn ROM from this phone, get rid of all that stupid HTC crap. Don't get me wrong, the phone looks sleek, display is nice, response is faster than most other Dopod/HTC crap phones, the scroll button is kool, camera quality is good, but it's just so damn annoying. I'm probably going to just give it to my girlfriend, whoever she will be. My Atom Exec still rocks.
Overall rating for this phone: 5.5/10
Apparently the word completion bug seems to be HTC wanting to replace the WM dict with eT9
If anyone has a way of fixing the word completion bug, and the GPS/footprint button assignments, I will be very much obliged.

UranusHertz said:
So I bought this phone 2 days ago and it was working fine. But it quickly lost its "wow" factor after about 5 hours. I hadn't even installed any softwares on it other than what the dealer put into it, and in less than 24 hours I am already getting pissed at HTC. Oh yes, the phone is great and all, but HTC sucks at making phones.
1) Word completion was working fine in keyboard mode, but after switching to other HTC inputs and then back to keyboard, word completion with keyboard is now DEAD. Not even after a soft restart fixed it.
2) No light to indicate Bluetooth/Wifi switched on
3) No blinking light to indicate phone is running
4) Start menu doesn't have the "Click" sound
5) I can't assign the god damned GPS and footprint button to do something else, what a piece of crap!
6) TouchFLO isn't smart enough to detect if I want to select multiple objects, or if I want to scroll!
7) No option to do a software soft reset
8) Need to open the back cover to do a reset
9) Menu text IS WAY TOO BIG, HTC you blind idiots!
10) The system doesn't come out from standby when I receive an SMS, meaning I have to press the fragile power button to read it.
11) I can't uninstall TouchFLO or any of the other stupid HTC softwares.
12) Manuals were unhelpful.
I already feel like flashing the damn ROM from this phone, get rid of all that stupid HTC crap. Don't get me wrong, the phone looks sleek, display is nice, response is faster than most other Dopod/HTC crap phones, the scroll button is kool, camera quality is good, but it's just so damn annoying. I'm probably going to just give it to my girlfriend, whoever she will be. My Atom Exec still rocks.
Overall rating for this phone: 5.5/10
Apparently the word completion bug seems to be HTC wanting to replace the WM dict with eT9
If anyone has a way of fixing the word completion bug, and the GPS/footprint button assignments, I will be very much obliged.
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Go and by Nokia phone then...

UranusHertz said:
7) No option to do a software soft reset
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Hold the power button pressed.
UranusHertz said:
9) Menu text IS WAY TOO BIG, HTC you blind idiots!
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You can change the font size, you know?

RE 10) and your device not waking up when you get an SMS. Go to Start, Settings, Sounds & Notifications, then click on the Notifications tab. Tap on the dropdown box next to 'Event', find and select 'Messaging: New SMS', then tick 'Display Message on screen' and hit OK : )

I do agree with most of the complaint. I am very very disappointed with this Cruise 2. I thought it is a smaller size version of the Cruise 1 (Polaris) except faster and more memories. But it is NOT! It has less buttons than Cruise and two of damn buttons are just useless. HTC sucks!

Ouzo said:
RE 10) and your device not waking up when you get an SMS. Go to Start, Settings, Sounds & Notifications, then click on the Notifications tab. Tap on the dropdown box next to 'Event', find and select 'Messaging: New SMS', then tick 'Display Message on screen' and hit OK : )
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I tried that option, it doesn't work
As a side note, I thought there was no blue LED to indicate Wifi/Bluetooth status, but last night, I saw a brief flash of blue, and then it never happened again. So there's definitely a blue LED there, but it's not used for Wifi/Bluetooth for some reason.
Anyone wanna trade phones with me?

UranusHertz said:
I tried that option, it doesn't work
As a side note, I thought there was no blue LED to indicate Wifi/Bluetooth status, but last night, I saw a brief flash of blue, and then it never happened again. So there's definitely a blue LED there, but it's not used for Wifi/Bluetooth for some reason.
Anyone wanna trade phones with me?
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Unless you want to get an older generation phone!
I also have HTC Touch 3G, it also have same annoyances.
First generation HTC phones has infrared, many buttons and LED's, Flash LED(s) for camera. Separate earplugs and power sockets. Metal bodies.
Then:
They took away the infrared, no more camera Flash light.
They cut the number of buttons.
They cut the LED's. Cut all the metal parts except the screws and printed circuit board contacts and copper traces, USB connector case.
They do make the phone smaller, lighter, more functions and more memories.
BTW, HTC have replaced the metal hook for phone string to plastic hook and smaller metal logo plate from Touch 3G to Touch Cruise(09).
I think the next version phone is going to be glassless and metal-less. Case will be just snap-on. The metal logo plate will be just a print on case or a paper sticker. They might attempt to use plastic USB connector. If anything has shorter lifetime, that means they will have better business. That might lead them to put a small timed self-destructive device just beyond the warranty period in the machine. They would love to cut the warranty time from a year to 3 months or better, 30 days. The new Sony laptops already ask customer to pay extra to extend the warranty period from 3 months to a year.
People want green earth but also want everything disposable! What gives?

I thought I'm the only one who's facing the problem of the blue led indicator.

What blue led indicator? There is no blue led indicator afaik...
Or do you mean the "lack of" blue led indicator?
By the way, you resurected a 8 month old thread!

Uranus, with everything you say about the HTC Iolite, I throw it out the window
Incidentally, my Iolite works perfectly and the problem of the dictionary (in Spanish) does not exist.
Regards!!!

I don't think uranus is still around here, his last post on the forum was in april 09... Again this thread is from that timeframe...

Great clarification!!!!

With some time and effort most of these annoyances can be solved or tweaked.....various good ROM's (Billabong) and many many software/tweaks around.....
What I do agree is that Polaris was more robust....but Iolite is better overall.....
In the end you can not produce a phone at reasonable price every-body is happy with.....
FC

i do truly miss a led that indicates that the phone is on

Will this help? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=371278
FC

Update:
Hi fellas,
After over a year, I finally decided to ditch this P.o.S. to my roomie. Things I've managed to fix:
1) Word completion, via a registry tweak in \HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts\e0010409\
Ime File=\windows\compime.dll
Layout Text =COMP IME
(I am still using this solution today for my HD2 which I flashed on the same day I bought it, I can't stand that HTC interface I got all annoyed at it after 5 minutes LOL)
2 & 3) nueLED is cool, but doesn't work
4) Start menu still doesn't have the "Click" sound
5) I still can't assign the GPS and footprint button to do something else
6) TouchFLO have to be "compromised" with smarter apps.
7) Need to use 3rd party app to do software reset
9) Managed to modify the popup menu text. Still, come on...
\HKLM\System\GWE\Menu\Popup
10) The system still doesn't wake up on sms despite changing the registry key which enables wake up on SMS.
I'm MUCH more happy with S200 in contrast, only problem is the weak vibration.

Comparison of TD1 to TD2 for those thinking of an upgrade

Got my TD2 yesterday, still have my TD1 (until I sell it) here sre some comparisons:-
1) Unboxing
TD2 is in a much cheaper pack than TD1 simple outer box with simple inner "egg carton" tray, gone are the shiny cherger and usb cables to be replaced with functional but plain matte black ones.
2) Build quality
I would say about the same although the TD2 feels more solid in the hand to me
3) Radio
TD1 with latest official WWE ROM versus TD2 with ROM 1.39.405.2 (47382) WWE Radio 3.43.25.19 as I look at both devices in front of me both are showing 2 bars.
4) Interface responsiveness
Finger control is smoother and more responsive on TD2, interface feels faster. No lag any more when exiting Opera.
5) New Tabs
Stock Tab is nice deeper integration of TF3D (e.g. in calendar) is cool
6) Internet
Push web is a useful feature and it is easy to control how often pages update
7) People Centric communication
VERY useful (to me at least) only had the thing 24 hours and already used this feature several times!!!
8) Music performance
Have listened to about 1 hour of music with NO SKIPS, supplied headphones are adequate, device speaker is loud and clear
9) Video
The film "V" plays without skipping or stuttering at 927 kbps and 25 fps (which is how I encoded it). Don't know whether that is regarded as good or bad but it impressed me!!
10) Battery life
Not enough time to give a defintive opinion but seems good so far
In summary the TD2 is an evolution rather than a revolution, but if your TD1 is getting a little battered and tired and you have some spare cash, I would recommend the upgrade!

I think it’s just straight common sense especially if you are a Touch Diamon1 user you buy the phone because of the size and its fully packed with great hard/software, and if there’s a new model almost the same but a little bigger but much faster and nicer it’s just common sense that you are going to upgrade to a Diamond2.
But I have to say the Pro2 really did get my attention. But still the Diamond2 won! Cant wait till tomorrow.

yuanes said:
I think it’s just straight common sense especially if you are a Touch Diamon1 user you buy the phone because of the size and its fully packed with great hard/software, and if there’s a new model almost the same but a little bigger but much faster and nicer it’s just common sense that you are going to upgrade to a Diamond2.
But I have to say the Pro2 really did get my attention. But still the Diamond2 won! Cant wait till tomorrow.
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All true. I would've prefered the Topaz, but oh well. HD here I come. 1 reason and 1 reason only. 3.5mm jack

Kraize said:
All true. I would've prefered the Topaz, but oh well. HD here I come. 1 reason and 1 reason only. 3.5mm jack
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Does the HD 's 3.5mm jack works as MIC as well?
I just use the diamond with a 3.5 adapter with MIC, handy when there's incoming calls.
About the TD2 , is the stylus got magnatic ends like the TD1 / T PRO / HD? and pull out stylus turn on the screen?
Does TD2 use MSM7201A? and no 5-minutes lag with speakers or wire headset when using music softwares other than TouchFLO3d / WMP (eg: core player / TCPMP / pocket mucic / pocket player)
Can it be use in landscape mode for 3rd party software without regedit?
The TD1 cannot rotate screen other than opera/album, and HTC support will yell at you complain about touchflo3d / phone pad / incoming calls not working in landscape mode.
Can it play RMVB files like the SAMSUNG OMNIA?
When you press CALL button , the phone pad will pop up with last few call history, in the TD1, there are some left and right arrows on the right side of the number for you to choose between mobile / text / work / home / email , it ONLY works with the D-pad in the TD1 . How to toggle between mobile / text / work / home / email in TD2 ?
Does the zoom bar work in most software?
How about the BACK buttons? is it as useless as the one on TD1?
Many thanks

To answer some of your questions about the TD2
The stylus is not magnetic, but pulling it out still turns on the screen like the TD1
The device information on my TD2 shows a 7200A fitted - I use core player, I get no lag
Landscape mode is available for Opera, Album, Email and You tube out of the box
No Idea on RMVB files
Pressing the call button still brings up a call history, there is an icon next to each which calls up the contact card for the person, you select home/ mobile/ email etc. from there, the whole process is slick and fast, no lag.
The zoom bar works in camera (video and still image), album, opera, excel and word - maybe others, haven't checked everything!
The back button does what it says on the box...
Hope this helps

how about the RAM usage? on startup and after opening and closing application?

After a soft reset - RAM usage is 37%, if I then open OPERA, navigate to bbc.co.uk and then close opera (completely), RAM usage is 52%. I don't think mine has got beyond 60% at any time so far.

adesonic said:
After a soft reset - RAM usage is 37%, if I then open OPERA, navigate to bbc.co.uk and then close opera (completely), RAM usage is 52%. I don't think mine has got beyond 60% at any time so far.
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I don't get why people want their PPC to have free RAM not being used all the time. The unit should be bouncing off 95% used as much as it can.

adesonic said:
To answer some of your questions about the TD2
The stylus is not magnetic, but pulling it out still turns on the screen like the TD1
The device information on my TD2 shows a 7200A fitted - I use core player, I get no lag
Landscape mode is available for Opera, Album, Email and You tube out of the box
No Idea on RMVB files
Pressing the call button still brings up a call history, there is an icon next to each which calls up the contact card for the person, you select home/ mobile/ email etc. from there, the whole process is slick and fast, no lag.
The zoom bar works in camera (video and still image), album, opera, excel and word - maybe others, haven't checked everything!
The back button does what it says on the box...
Hope this helps
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many thanks!
Does word/excel work in landscape mode? Email works in landscape, does it mean SMS/MMS works in landscape too?
When using EMAIL in landscape mode, what happen when there's an incoming call?

Word and Excell do not switch to Landscape, SMS/MMS do not switch to landscape. When on email in landscape, an incoming call results in caller ID being displayed in portrait mode.
One important note, the annoying delay before the phone rings on an incoming call that was present on the TD1 appears to have been eliminated on the TD2

adesonic said:
Word and Excell do not switch to Landscape, SMS/MMS do not switch to landscape. When on email in landscape, an incoming call results in caller ID being displayed in portrait mode.
One important note, the annoying delay before the phone rings on an incoming call that was present on the TD1 appears to have been eliminated on the TD2
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SMS does go into landscape! i tought it also but if you tilt the phone to your left it goes into landscape
This phone rocks! that i even tought about have a full keyboard

I actually liked the TD1. I also have a Nokia 5800 & the wife has a LG Renoir, I tried so hard to like the Nokia but S60 is total ****e.
Anyway only a few things annoyed me about the TD1 most significant being low speaker volume & low memory warnings. After reading the posts here and on a few other sites it seems the TD2 has addressed most of the failings of the TD1 so thats reason enough for me make the upgrade.

i was also a big fan of the original diamond and upgradef mainlu for the official route to wm6.5. i am glad i did, this phone rocks!

adesonic said:
Got my TD2 yesterday, still have my TD1 (until I sell it) here sre some comparisons:-
1) Unboxing
TD2 is in a much cheaper pack than TD1 simple outer box with simple inner "egg carton" tray, gone are the shiny cherger and usb cables to be replaced with functional but plain matte black ones.
2) Build quality
I would say about the same although the TD2 feels more solid in the hand to me
3) Radio
TD1 with latest official WWE ROM versus TD2 with ROM 1.39.405.2 (47382) WWE Radio 3.43.25.19 as I look at both devices in front of me both are showing 2 bars.
4) Interface responsiveness
Finger control is smoother and more responsive on TD2, interface feels faster. No lag any more when exiting Opera.
5) New Tabs
Stock Tab is nice deeper integration of TF3D (e.g. in calendar) is cool
6) Internet
Push web is a useful feature and it is easy to control how often pages update
7) People Centric communication
VERY useful (to me at least) only had the thing 24 hours and already used this feature several times!!!
8) Music performance
Have listened to about 1 hour of music with NO SKIPS, supplied headphones are adequate, device speaker is loud and clear
9) Video
The film "V" plays without skipping or stuttering at 927 kbps and 25 fps (which is how I encoded it). Don't know whether that is regarded as good or bad but it impressed me!!
10) Battery life
Not enough time to give a defintive opinion but seems good so far
In summary the TD2 is an evolution rather than a revolution, but if your TD1 is getting a little battered and tired and you have some spare cash, I would recommend the upgrade!
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And: TD 2 better camera (5 MP), larger screen 3,2" WVGA 480x800, much more memory, micro SD-card, stronger battery.
But also: no select/scroll wheel, remove the backcover to softreset and to get the sd-card in and out, a little bit thicker...
My new baby...

TD2 actually has removable memory. That's a huge plus IMO.

pietrucci said:
And: TD 2 better camera (5 MP), larger screen 3,2" WVGA 480x800, much more memory, micro SD-card, stronger battery.
But also: no select/scroll wheel, remove the backcover to softreset and to get the sd-card in and out, a little bit thicker...
My new baby...
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Great to see you here pietrucci!!! Got mine yesterday as well. The out of the box speed of this thing is quite impressive... look forward to some of your benchmarks when we get cooking! This is going to be fast...

FM radio?
Was wondering if anybody has tried to use the FM radio? Does it exist in the D2? Thanks in advance.

christonge said:
Great to see you here pietrucci!!! Got mine yesterday as well. The out of the box speed of this thing is quite impressive... look forward to some of your benchmarks when we get cooking! This is going to be fast...
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hi christonge, will perform my first tests tomorrow. It feels fast, hopefully it also benchmarks fast...
I'll be back.

fm radio present and correct1

when i compared D1 with D2, i saw that the D1 has a proximity sensor for auto turn-off (when putting it to the ear during a call), and it seems not to be mentioned for the D2.
is it true that the D2 does not have the proximity sensor? so when you call, while putting the phone to your ear/face, you can accidentally press "buttons"?
this would really suck imo... :/

#I can be your Hero...Maybe# T-mob UK G2

Folks.. Not sure if I made a mistake here.. I whinged to T-mobile about how my Vario IV's lack of reception was driving me over the edge and somehow convinced them (mid-contract) that I just HAD to have a G2 or i'd die!! Well not quite but anyway they felt sorry for me and as of yesterday I am in possession of my first android phone.
1) Looks and feels great. matt/rubberized casing a joy to hold and the Bruse Forsyth chin seems to make sense somehow.
2) Display is crisp and clear and touch screen is very responsive although the idea that I can't use a stylus effectively bugs me a little especially when yr fat thumb can't quite place that pin acurately on google maps!!
3) When you get reception and make a call it is pretty clear and loud enough
4) Music playback.. Plays well. Again fairly clear and loud enough to drown out even the loudest tube journey effectively.
5a) Camera stills. Not alot of love here.. Don't get me wrong the pictures look ok but not a vast improvement over the g1 3.2 or any pther mobile phone 3.2 cam. To be honest, being able to take shots exclusively by pressing the thumb wheel was a mistake.. I found myself zooming in or out alot just as I was about to take an exposure.. Frustrating!
5b) Camera/video capture. CRAP!!!! seriously HTC why are we still toying with 352 x 288?? Can someone please tell me???
6) Keyboard.. One of the better touchscreen keyboards out there and with feedback is always a plus, problem is I am a dedicated/Qwerty/ h/w keyboard fan and this just is not doing it for me at all.. The keys though responsive are not accurate at all and you will find a whole bunch of errors when you look back at your text even after the intuitive suggestive text has it's way. the other thing I found was that I started experiencing cramp in my thumbs even after a very short period of typing on this thing due to the awkward position I had to place my thumb in to effectively hit the "backspace key".
7) Lag..It's there folks and it's real!! It doesn't seem to take much to get it going too.. I only had a google maps sess and the cam running in the background.. Hopefully HTC can sort this in some form of a s/w update..
by the way I can't seem to dial 150 to get to t-mobile services.. just says the number isn't valid.. Anyone else having this prob??
There is more and i'll hit you with it when I remember but that's it for my T-mobile specific rants on the G2.

I have it now,but not happy at all

1.first i had problem to hard reset it,it is not done as users manual says.
2.Digital Compass app needs to Rereset after each soft reset.getting "Magnetic interference" Error
3.Screen is so sensitive that is almost impossible for me to write text messages or e mails.came off Touch Pro 2.there i had no problems.
4.my Volume UP button sudenly stoped working
i think,they rushed the release and made this device pain in the ass.maybe we need a NEW ROM!!!

mine hasn't had these problems, knock wood. And I am loving the speed!

With the screen being so sensitive... why does that make it impossible to write text messages? it just means you dont have to bend your screen when pressing so hard to press a key...?

Having had a Touch HD - owning a TP2 (work) and just having sold an Iphone 3GS - I honestly love mine to bits.
Been playing with the phone all evening - and I have to say I am really impressed - Vibrant screen, awesome speed, gorgeous flash (vid's and pics are quite good too compared to my other/previous phones) - All in all I am well impressed. The OS sits together so well - not having to touch WinMo at all, that this is one ROM I might just stick with!!!
I like the hard buttons on the front of the device - one of the bad sides of the blackstone but I have to agree the screen is VERY sensitive. As I'll be getting an invisishield for it as soon as they are released - this will make it much more useable - struggling at the moment but I can honestly say its a good thing - VERY precise screen - compared to the iphone 3GS (which sometimes required a double press to register) - You just have to think about touching this phone and it reacts - lol
Overall - VERY PLEASED and super happy I ditched my iphone 3GS for this oh and its VERY slim - in fact one of the slimmest HTC devices I have ever laid my hands on. All in all about 2mm bigger in depth, width and height than a 3GS but with like 50% more display area - Now THIS is what I call an iphone killer.

polystirenman said:
i think,they rushed the release and made this device pain in the ass.maybe we need a NEW ROM!!!
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And I just say you're out of luck. inoperative volume button... sounds like a defective unit, not software.
Replace it and be happy again.

zoomee said:
Having had a Touch HD - owning a TP2 (work) and just having sold an Iphone 3GS - I honestly love mine to bits.
Been playing with the phone all evening - and I have to say I am really impressed - Vibrant screen, awesome speed, gorgeous flash (vid's and pics are quite good too compared to my other/previous phones) - All in all I am well impressed. The OS sits together so well - not having to touch WinMo at all, that this is one ROM I might just stick with!!!
I like the hard buttons on the front of the device - one of the bad sides of the blackstone but I have to agree the screen is VERY sensitive. As I'll be getting an invisishield for it as soon as they are released - this will make it much more useable - struggling at the moment but I can honestly say its a good thing - VERY precise screen - compared to the iphone 3GS (which sometimes required a double press to register) - You just have to think about touching this phone and it reacts - lol
Overall - VERY PLEASED and super happy I ditched my iphone 3GS for this oh and its VERY slim - in fact one of the slimmest HTC devices I have ever laid my hands on. All in all about 2mm bigger in depth, width and height than a 3GS but with like 50% more display area - Now THIS is what I call an iphone killer.
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zoomee, come drive over to wakefield so I can have a play and see what its like

nicelad_uk said:
zoomee, come drive over to wakefield so I can have a play and see what its like
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heh, if your passing by hudds soon i.e. on teh weekend let me know fella and i'll hook up.

I agree on the sensitivity....it's awful....if, for example, you type something incorrectly...VERY easy to do..then press delete quickly a few times, it doesn't delete..it starts typing random characters!!
hoping there's a setting for this somewhere. A screen protector might be the answer though in the short term
I also had to hard reset (because I wanted to..not for any other reason) and I followed the procedure in the manual, has been the same for all HTC devices I've had

Not to *****, but the guys saying that the screen is too responsive... Are you used to capacitive screens? You need to get used to it for a bit, especially when you come from resistive screens.
Also, a phone that is TOO responsive? You never hear that from a WM phone .

compared to the iphone (yes, I know..I'm sorry) the screen is lousy!!

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I agree on the sensitivity....it's awful....if, for example, you type something incorrectly...VERY easy to do..then press delete quickly a few times, it doesn't delete..it starts typing random characters!!
hoping there's a setting for this somewhere. A screen protector might be the answer though in the short term
I also had to hard reset (because I wanted to..not for any other reason) and I followed the procedure in the manual, has been the same for all HTC devices I've had
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that's exactly what i ment.it is realy hard to wrife witbkut making a mistake.
So does it means that none of you guys hav this Digital Compass problem?after each soft reset i have to repeat that 8 shape pattern movement to make it work again.
anyway i am returning my to get a replacement.

I don't have an HD2, but I think I've experienced this over-sensitivity on my iPod nano, which I presume has a capacitive scroll wheel.
Sometimes (although not usually) it becomes so sensitive that I don't have to actually touch the scroll wheel for the songs to scroll. It then becomes almost impossible to choose the song I actually want because when I move my finger to the select button the song changes before I can select it - very, very annoying and frustrating. I'm not sure why it's sometimes much worse than at other times. Maybe it's the temperature of my finger or something.
Anyway, it sounds like this is the same sort of thing that's happening on the HD2. It's a real pain on my iPod, and I would find it totally unacceptable on a device like the HD2.

Its just a case of getting used to the screen. Our fingers are too used to resistive screens that we don't actually lift our fingers enough and drag across the screen since unless we apply enough pressure on resistive screen it won't do anything. With capacitive we just need to re-train our fingers to lift off the screen another 1mm and it'll be fine.
Here's my suggestions:
1) Try typing slower to start with.
2) Or turn phone to landscape as the keys on the onscreen keyboard are slightly wider.
I can type quite quickly in landscape with between 1-3 errors per an SMS.
I'm loving this phone right now!

kinnyfaifai said:
Its just a case of getting used to the screen. Our fingers are too used to resistive screens that we don't actually lift our fingers enough and drag across the screen since unless we apply enough pressure on resistive screen it won't do anything. With capacitive we just need to re-train our fingers to lift off the screen another 1mm and it'll be fine.
Here's my suggestions:
1) Try typing slower to start with.
2) Or turn phone to landscape as the keys on the onscreen keyboard are slightly wider.
I can type quite quickly in landscape with between 1-3 errors per an SMS.
I'm loving this phone right now!
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You're 100% right!
I also was very frustrated and irritated the first two days. But then I realized how responsive the screen is. Just a very very light touch already gives a reaction. And now I'm loving it more and more by the minute...

ALÞHÃ said:
And I just say you're out of luck. inoperative volume button... sounds like a defective unit, not software.
Replace it and be happy again.
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Mine was delivered with a faulty 'Volume UP' button. I've sent it back for replacement.

polystirenman said:
3.Screen is so sensitive that is almost impossible for me to write text messages or e mails.
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Just try another keyboard. One that doesn't allow to change a character once you pressed a character on the keyboard. Fingertouch Pro and Resco Keyboard Pro for example are great keyboards for the sensitive screen of the HD2. I myself like the Resco keyboard. It responds and looks very similar to the iphone keyboard.
BTW Fingertouch pro and Resco Keyboard Pro both allows you to make use of gestures. Together with this feature text input is a breeze on the HD2
(Better yet is MessagEase, but unfortunately, under WinMob 6.5, it has some real problems).

nicelad_uk said:
zoomee, come drive over to wakefield so I can have a play and see what its like
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Hey I am in wakefield too! Small world
I have to agree the screen is very sensitive. I am sure with a weeks usage I will be ok.
I have to say though I am so in love with the phone. The speed is perfect. No more waiting to load SMS\email screen etc like with my touch HD.

Hehe thats what happens with everyone who switch over from Resistive to Capacitive, at first they will hate it as they're too used to resistive.
But just within 2-3 days they realize just how much better Capative is. Resistive just sucks IMO. Typing is way quicker using a Capactive panel.

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Hehe thats what happens with everyone who switch over from Resistive to Capacitive, at first they will hate it as they're too used to resistive.
But just within 2-3 days they realize just how much better Capative is. Resistive just sucks IMO. Typing is way quicker using a Capactive panel.
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I had exactly the same experience switching to my G1 - I sent the first one back after a few hours as i was convinced the screen wasn't working. The next handset was was the same. A day or so of use later and I was sold and never looked back.

no..the screen is definitely too sensitive...this is not my first capacitive screen btw.
I've got my phone on charge on the desk next to me...and number of time it has open the calendar, or contacts...all by itself is amazing. A few moments ago (which has prompted me to write this post), it opened the calendar and the curser moved all over november....18, 19, 20, 24, etc etc...without me being anywhere near it!!
there has to be a way to turn the sensitivity down

I have had my HD2 a day.... anyone wanna buy a HD2?

Wow....
I was so looking forward to this device after my Kaiser/XperiaX1/Rhodium. My biggest gripe was always the speed, then the screen size, after all.
But this thing is next to useless. The capacitive touch screen is HORRIBLE, and the lack of a stylus so annoying that words cannot describe. I find that I constantly end up with apps closing when I try to press buttons near the top, etc.
Its impossible to type with, its so inaccurate. Maybe its unfair of me, coming from devices with keyboards but even so, I could type on the screen of my rhodium soo much better.
I guess that boils down to "capacitive screen" too, I guess I'll be going back to my Rhodium and waiting for a snapdragon or tegra powered system with a resistive screen.... Calibrating this thing makes no useful difference.
Sorry for the rant, more than a little frustrated with my £500 paperweight atm.

Nemeth782 said:
Wow....
I was so looking forward to this device after my Kaiser/XperiaX1/Rhodium. My biggest gripe was always the speed, then the screen size, after all.
But this thing is next to useless. The capacitive touch screen is HORRIBLE, and the lack of a stylus so annoying that words cannot describe. I find that I constantly end up with apps closing when I try to press buttons near the top, etc.
Its impossible to type with, its so inaccurate. Maybe its unfair of me, coming from devices with keyboards but even so, I could type on the screen of my rhodium soo much better.
I guess that boils down to "capacitive screen" too, I guess I'll be going back to my Rhodium and waiting for a snapdragon or tegra powered system with a resistive screen.... Calibrating this thing makes no useful difference.
Sorry for the rant, more than a little frustrated with my £500 paperweight atm.
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All I can think is you must have really FAT fingers becuase the screen on this baby is amazing and typing on it is amazing. It's a million times better than the iPhone.

I haven't ever used an iphone for more than a few mins.
I don't think the issue is finger size as I can type better on the screen of my rhodium which is smaller, but resistive. Its more the fact that I touch a button and something happens over the other side of the screen (maybe a slight exaggeration) and apps like Resco file explorer leave me trying to press the same button 20 times before I get it due to lack of Stylus.
Its not usable, its just frustrating.

Nemeth782 said:
I haven't ever used an iphone for more than a few mins.
I don't think the issue is finger size as I can type better on the screen of my rhodium which is smaller, but resistive. Its more the fact that I touch a button and something happens over the other side of the screen (maybe a slight exaggeration) and apps like Resco file explorer leave me trying to press the same button 20 times before I get it due to lack of Stylus.
Its not usable, its just frustrating.
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Just give it a day or two. You'll never want to have an other device...

I really disagree with you on this. I think the screen and the responsiveness is superb to type on. Top of marked for sure. Beats iPhone and Hero imo.

The touch screen on HD2 just like a sexy girl - soooo sensitive.

beating the iPhone and Hero doesn't mean much to me as I haven't done much with either beyond a quick fiddle, but we are all held to believe that capacitive is better, so I was expecting an improvement on my old phones which have all been Resistive.
Maybe mine is broken I guess...
Still, I eventually managed to make a link to the task manager on the start menu. It feels like I fight with it for 30 mins and if I am lucky, I happen to get something done along the way.
If only it was like just about every other HTC phone I have used and had the little drop down task manager on the home screen where the X would usually be...

Its all down to
Calibration.
Ensure you calibrate the screen and calibrate the screen how you tend to use it.
I calibrated the screen with my thumb while holding it in the same hand. Scary but for its size and sensitivity it works great.
Be careful about calibrating with your finger then expect to type great with your thumb. Works okay but you will need some patience. You will get better results with calibrating with your thumb in my situation.

^Agree, re-calibrate your screen & see the differents. If you still want to sell, then put it in the Marketplace...

Try this fix.. For me it was a 100% improvement.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=585511

If only it was like just about every other HTC phone I have used and had the little drop down task manager on the home screen where the X would usually be...
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There's a tweak for that already [that puts it back there] - think it's a Dutty job - have a look in the other forum on apps
And BTW - I've owned an iPhone and many HTC touhscreens and I feel your pain - I too have issues with this one typing is pretty inaccurate (typically it seems to trigger the key blelow that which I'm typing on) and sometimes it seems to just not recognise a press at all....I end up jabbing it so hard with my finger sometimes in frustration! I'm becoming more used to it but it is a little dissapointing, given the iPhones screen (for accuracy and responsiveness) is certainly thus far better than this one

Guys, remember, this screen is going to take time to get used to. Capacitive is a totally different beast to resistive.
And one day is not long enough to fully get used to a device. I am having a few small problems with typing (mostly because it's so sensitive and I'm not used to it!).
Once I get used to it, I don't think there will be any problems. I can already type faster on the HD2 on screen keyboard than I could on the X1 hardware keyboard!

Nemeth782 said:
If only it was like just about every other HTC phone I have used and had the little drop down task manager on the home screen where the X would usually be...
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The Dutty's fix for this didn't work for me, but this alternative did, and there's a few other tasty treats on the post too...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4947950&postcount=1

Original Poster's phone could be faulty. I had a demo of an HD2 the other day, and the keyboard was going completely mad: touching the backspace key, for example, resulted in a flurry of detected key-presses not just of the backspace key itself but of all keys around it in all directions. I mentioned this to the guy in the shop and he said that the reason why they had put that one aside for demo purposes was precisely that they couldn't get the screen properly aligned/calibrated on it, and that the other models they had didn't have the same problem. He might have been lying, of course....