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I mean...after everybody else gets the 2.1 update. Besides the obvious hardware differences...when we N1 owners are sitting next to a HERO/ERIS/maybe DROID with 2.1 - What can I do with my N1 that the HERO can't do?
Sure, I can do things faster...but I'm talking 'Amenities' if you will.
Like you said, the software is basically the same but since you want us to exclude the hardware differences... I don't know what else I can say about the N1 :S
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indeed, unlock
Also, Google is writing the software directly, so no need to wait for occasional updates from the manufacturer
You can use N1 Torch and they can't! =P
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You can use N1 Torch and they can't! =P
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LoL! Forget the N1 Torch...I'd rather show off that boot animation of yours! Amazing...that is simply unique.
Other than the hardware and OS, it just comes down to asthetics.
It's a very beautiful device. I have pulled it out to check email or text message and have had MANY people stop and ask me about it. They say it looks like an iPhone, only nicer.
Besides, I don't think it should ever be a competition. There will NEVER be ONE device that pleases EVERYONE and fits EVERYONEs wants and needs. It really comes down to personal preference...
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LoL! Forget the N1 Torch...I'd rather show off that boot animation of yours! Amazing...that is simply unique.
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Hahahaha thanks =P
Already mentioned but bears repeating. There's every reason to believe the nexus will be the first to receive updates. And the hardware would suggest that this phone can remain relevant for a good long while. Especially since, evidently, there's performance that has yet to be squeezed out of the nexus hardware. This phone is a bit choppy at times but hasn't reached its potential.
Yeah but the thing is they DON'T have 2.1, simple as that..and the speed is the phone...it makes it
Yea... I guess its just going to be the speed, and how quickly the updates come. Thats the only thing (that is going to be) unique about it - its hardware, not its software. As expected from Android, it is up to you to customize it.
I don't think lower spec 2.1 phones will be able to handle live wallpapers. Also we got that noise cancelling mic as well as speed.
What is unique is what the Nexus One is... it isn't a Hero or Eris or Whatever... it is THE GOOGLE PHONE! It will have 2.2(or whatever it will be numbered) first. It will have more updates more often. It is the standard bearer for the next year any android device will be judged against.
It can do things other's can't. And it does start with the hardware. Don't know why you want to exclude the biggest aspect that makes any phone unique(OS tend to be multi-phone, and the non-unique part, FYI). But this phone has unique OS/software because of its unique hardware! What other phone has 2.1 right now? None! What other phone will get Froyo before the N1? None!
The N1 is unique in many ways... best hardware, best OS, and best support. It is the Google Phone, and will be the standard for the next year, period, and that alone makes it the most unique phone on the market.
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What is unique is what the Nexus One is... it isn't a Hero or Eris or Whatever... it is THE GOOGLE PHONE! It will have 2.2(or whatever it will be numbered) first. It will have more updates more often. It is the standard bearer for the next year any android device will be judged against.
It can do things other's can't. And it does start with the hardware. Don't know why you want to exclude the biggest aspect that makes any phone unique(OS tend to be multi-phone, and the non-unique part, FYI). But this phone has unique OS/software because of its unique hardware! What other phone has 2.1 right now? None! What other phone will get Froyo before the N1? None!
The N1 is unique in many ways... best hardware, best OS, and best support. It is the Google Phone, and will be the standard for the next year, period, and that alone makes it the most unique phone on the market.
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Everyone is right. I guess I was more wanting to say...I can do this...and you can't. Guess that at some point in the OS upgrades...the other phones will be stuck due to their hardware limitations.
Cool. I was kinda getting nervous for a minute there! LOL. Really because I want to be the only one with the cool phone. Which apparently is at the moment wherever I go. But that may change when Verizon get its. Bummer. At least I have this site to keep mine unique!
Saying there is no difference between an Eris etc. except for hardware is silly. That's like saying there is no difference between a ferrari and a ford focus. They both go forwards, backwards, can turn left and right, have a radio, four wheels and windows. The performance/hardware (speed and screen) is what really matters.
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It's a very beautiful device. I have pulled it out to check email or text message and have had MANY people stop and ask me about it. They say it looks like an iPhone, only nicer.
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i get the same thing... EVERYONE wants to know what phone it is.. hell even when i have to call T-Mo and talk to a rep.. they ask what phone I'm using.. when i say the Nexus.. they go "oooh i want one " and ask 10 minutes of questions
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i get the same thing... EVERYONE wants to know what phone it is.. hell even when i have to call T-Mo and talk to a rep.. they ask what phone I'm using.. when i say the Nexus.. they go "oooh i want one " and ask 10 minutes of questions
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Sweet man... My kid turned 18 today, so we were at Red Robin (where he wanted to go for his B-Day dinner) and we had friends and family there. I pulled out the Nexus to take pictures and some video of the B-Day singing and as soon as the singing was done, my phone was handed around and everyone wanted one and wanted to know where to get it and all that.
The pictures it takes is fantastic (my wife was mad that it takes MUCH better pics than her iPhone 3G)!
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i get the same thing... EVERYONE wants to know what phone it is.. hell even when i have to call T-Mo and talk to a rep.. they ask what phone I'm using.. when i say the Nexus.. they go "oooh i want one " and ask 10 minutes of questions
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haha...that happened to me last week when i called to get my g1 replaced and it was the same day my nexus came in so i called on that and the rep asked me all kinds of questions about it
Yes the difference is... besides the fact that its a Google phone, its the best lookin fone right now. IMO. I wouldn't trade it for anything else.
So, I know this isn't about the HTC Hero or anything, but if it needs to be moved or deleted so be it. It is off topic. I just wanted to discuss the first Android phone on AT&T. I think it just launched over the weekend. So, specs are very, how should I put it, out-dated for being a newly released phone.
528 MHz Qualcomm MSM7201a(same speed as our HTC Hero which came out over a year ago. Well, the GSM one anyways.)
172mb of storage for apps.(I think we have 159)
3.1 inch screen. (We have 3.2, yes?)
And get this, it only has Android 1.5!
Talk about a Backflip that lands you on your head. But that's not bugs me the most about AT&T's first Android phone...Get this, apps outside the Android Market are blocked/disabled. Yes, that's right. Disabled. Talk about iPhone mindset. That's kinda against what Android is about.
What do you guys think? AT&T trying to ruin people's first Android experience so they will switch to the iPhone?
**** that phone...
they've also made Yahoo its default search engine and email provider afaik
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they've also made Yahoo its default search engine and email provider afaik
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truth. completely eliminates why i would want a GOOGLE os phone
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**** that phone...
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lol, thats funny
It's a POS... thank GOD I jumped to Sprint to get the Hero and didn't wait for whatever ATT was going to offer for Android
I work for at&t
Motorola was at are center showing off the phone and the funny part was the gentleman that was showcasing the phone didn't know anything other then what was on the promo sheet.... the phone is just like tue clic from t mobile
I didn't like it at all personally
Look at it this way. If they didn't "disable" the out side apps thing, they would then be competeing with them selves. Also with yahoo, ATT has a deal with Yahoo to use them as there primary search for Mobile phones.
They released a crumby phone so Apple couldn't get to pissy with them over competition. Welcome to corporate America. Same stuff goes on where I work on a smaller scale. We will sell 3rd party hardware that is crappier than our hardware. It makes us look real good and gives a reason to charge our premium.
I put disable in qoutes because an advanced user can push the APK's with ADB.
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I do think the track pad navigation on the back is a cool idea, though I think partially ripped off from Apple's plans for the next ICrap. It is supposed to have a touch sensitive back if the rumors are true. Yet another law suit for Apple to push out I'm sure.
It only gets 1.5? Ouch. It would not be to bad of a phone if it wasn't for that. Hopefully they can root the sucker and upgrade it
I doubt they are trying to ruin the "first time android" experience. I switched from the iPhone to the android, because well... I just prefer it a lot better.
The main thing I'm jealous about though that AT&T is going to get are the new shipments of Dell Mini 5's. That's going to be amazing.
i read they gimped that phone at&t
AT&T is ****ing retarded. If I were Google, I would pull all there phones (though it's not a very good marketing thing to do, I'd still do it). I can't believe AT&T would have the audacity to cripple an Android phone and then on top of that, decide to put Yahoo search in place of Google search on an Android device, what retards. Thank God I'm on Sprint and have a Hero and can look forward to the amazing Supersonic and what not.
Fail
AT&T = Fail
's great, I'm supposed to be selling the iPhone at work, and I'm like "why would I? with the advent of Android it's now obsolete!"
I am now in an all android household. I have the hero, one roommate has the mytouch on t-mobile and the other one just got the backflip as he has been desperate to upgrade on att. Feeling bad for him now. Did not know the phone would be so gimped
out of the box. Thought yahoo search was the only impairment it would have. Tried to get him to switch to Sprint but he wanted to stay loyal. This is the reward att gives him!
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I am now in an all android household. I have the hero, one roommate has the mytouch on t-mobile and the other one just got the backflip as he has been desperate to upgrade on att. Feeling bad for him now. Did not know the phone would be so gimped
out of the box. Thought yahoo search was the only impairment it would have. Tried to get him to switch to Sprint but he wanted to stay loyal. This is the reward att gives him!
JustinL42
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Awww, come on now, he could get the stunning Iphone. /Sarcasm
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iPhone. Because you're too stupid to do that.
Wont 95% of users care less that yahoo is the default search and that they can only install applications from the marketplace?
My wife is due for an upgrade and shes debating between the Sprint Palm Pre or the backflip on ATT and although ATT's @#!& actions are infuriating to hardcore users like us I think the average user with their average interest wont care a bit. It seems that the back flip will still be a better device than the iphone right?
It does feel like they did that to keep Apple happy. But again, why the backflip in specs? The phone barely beats our phone in memory....and our phones are "old" now. I think they should do it right. They could have made a lot of money with a better spec'ed phone. Every review says not to buy it. Why not sell the N1? Hmmm. I guess ATT likes their noses covered in a brown substance.
I would NEVER buy that. If I wanted an Android on AT&T I'd get a G1, root it, unlock it, and put an AT&T sim in it.
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I doubt they are trying to ruin the "first time android" experience. I switched from the iPhone to the android, because well... I just prefer it a lot better.
The main thing I'm jealous about though that AT&T is going to get are the new shipments of Dell Mini 5's. That's going to be amazing.
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I could definitely see this as a deliberate attempt to hurt android. AT&T has been making wheel barrels full of cash off the iPhone and have no reason to be interested in open technology like Android.
In 6 months AT&T will point to sales numbers and say "Android just isn't preforming, people don't want it" I think they want it to fail, that or they're totally incompetent morons.
Eric Schmidt's words concerning why the Nexus One was created and how we dont need number Two.
Initially, Google felt that they needed to build a device to help Android along so they worked with HTC to create the Nexus One handset. Schmidt says: “The idea a year and a half ago was to do the Nexus One to try to move the phone platform hardware business forward. It clearly did. It was so successful, we didn't have to do a second one. We would view that as positive but people criticised us heavily for that. I called up the board and said: 'Ok, it worked. Congratulations - we're stopping'. We like that flexibility, we think that flexibility is characteristic of nimbleness at our scale."
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Heh, google is the inverse of apple
...I would like a Nexus Two though?
What about a 1280x720 4" IPS screen, sub-10mm thickness, aluminum/carbon fiber construction, HDMI port, front-facing camera, Tegra 2 SoC, battery life that is amazing, and capacitive touch buttons that are actually silk screened right?
And of course, a unicorn detector
oh well, there's the answer to that. now we all just wait for the next developer phone, whoever google decides to use. let's hope HTC again or maybe motorola.
i would like to see SE get into the game and develop a phone that is 100% backed up by Google. they make good phones.
I thought the title was a joke. lol
Wow, damage control ahoy.
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i would like to see SE get into the game and develop a phone that is 100% backed up by Google. they make good phones.
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+1 on this. SE really dropped the ball when they attacked the smartphone market. The W series phones were cutting edge in terms of being music centric. The K series were really good too, my K750i has the best 2 megapixel sensor of any camera. The K850i was a real stormer of a phone too.
I don't know what happened in SE HQ when they moved onto touchscreen phones and the like. They were ahead of the curve back in the day but maybe their UI let them down?
Samsung are another company who made good hardware but ****ed it up with their clunky software.
I'm not sure how these guys turn the ship around but HTC came from nowhere and are one of the biggest mobile phone manufacturers about now. Surely SE and Samsung can make a cracking phone again and win some of the market share back.
Another issue might be locking down access to root or bastardising Android with a clunky shell. HTC avoided that with a pretty nice UI in Sense.
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That's why I love em.
Knew it and have been saying it all along.
The Nexus One was never supposed to outsell any other phone or become an income source for Google. It was meant to drive the Android OS and the hardware platform and as Schmitty says, it "clearly worked".
Android market share has rocketed and continues to do so and even today, 7 months later from intro, new Android phones are STILL catching up to the specs of the Nexus One.
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+1 on this. SE really dropped the ball when they attacked the smartphone market. The W series phones were cutting edge in terms of being music centric. The K series were really good too, my K750i has the best 2 megapixel sensor of any camera. The K850i was a real stormer of a phone too.
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I don't know about you, but that's what I dislike about SE. Why couldn't they just combine the best walkman and camera in one phone? Instead, they made two phones out of almost the same hardware and charge a high price for each of them...
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oh well, there's the answer to that. now we all just wait for the next developer phone, whoever google decides to use. let's hope HTC again or maybe motorola.
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Hey Roger, do you mean the next developer phone that's not under a carriers control and gets updates ota directly from Google?
I guess I am kinda confused since I assumed Google is never gonna dip their hand in the smartphone market again besides supplying android.
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The Nexus One was never supposed to outsell any other phone or become an income source for Google. It was meant to drive the Android OS and the hardware platform and as Schmitty says, it "clearly worked".
Android market share has rocketed and continues to do so and even today, 7 months later from intro, new Android phones are STILL catching up to the specs of the Nexus One.
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Amen!
I love the N1, and can't wait for a future device done the same way (without any branding). I seriously hope HTC is the manufacturer. Can't see myself using a phone not made by them.
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Hey Roger, do you mean the next developer phone that's not under a carriers control and gets updates ota directly from Google?
I guess I am kinda confused since I assumed Google is never gonna dip their hand in the smartphone market again besides supplying android.
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Since android's beginning, there has always been Google's developer phone, the one that Google uses to write the android OS on. First was the g1, now its nexus. It will always be a vanilla android version, not HTC sense or MOTOblur or whatever. Perhaps the next one will be sold thru a carrier, but I think they will ensure it can be purchased unlocked too. We don't know, this is new territory, and The nexus kinda set the standard. So I'm anticipating Google will make sure the next phone can be had without the carrier influence as well.
I actually don't think there should be a Nexus 2 from Google. They should just stick to what they do best and make great software. I don't think selling physical products is their thing and the Nexus One has served it's purpose of demonstrating the potential of Android.
Hopefully the plan is to dramatically improve the UI with Gingerbread and convince manufacturers like HTC and Motorola to run vanilla Android. They can release new versions of Android and leave it up to the manufacturers to deliver the updates.
I'm done with SE, myself. I followed them for a little while with a P990i, then Xperia X1 and was going to get an X10... but glad I got a Nexus One instead.
High-priced pieces of trash, they are. I know the X1 was HTC built and rebranded, but WinMo was so laggy on it and SE slapped an $800 price tag on it. Enough to wake you up.
So there won't be a N1 successor ??
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I actually don't think there should be a Nexus 2 from Google. They should just stick to what they do best and make great software. I don't think selling physical products is their thing and the Nexus One has served it's purpose of demonstrating the potential of Android.
Hopefully the plan is to dramatically improve the UI with Gingerbread and convince manufacturers like HTC and Motorola to run vanilla Android. They can release new versions of Android and leave it up to the manufacturers to deliver the updates.
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Sure is nice having Google dictate what goes on the phone and not T-Mobile or AT&T or whoever. I think I'd opt for a slightly weaker phone over one with Sense UI and branding all over it.
I guess I'll be buying whichever dev phone is popular at the time, or making damn sure the phone has Cyanogen et al behind it and that it is vanilla.
No N2?!? Oh come on! It's not like they have to do much. Just make it a 4" screen, swap in a better 3D co-processor, slap a real keyboard on it and call it a day. I'd buy that off-contract any day!
I would agree that the N1 put android on the map, at the centre. They have multiple partners now SPAMMING rediculously good phones for android, the consumers know about it and WANT it, theyve done their task. Let them get back to making the OS orgasmic, and let HTC etc make phones that can vibrate
Like a guy said eariler this is whats called damage control. The N1 didn't start anything with Android OS, it was the Droid that did that. The N1 is a tiny blip on the radar of Android sales. The N1 failed and this is an arrogant look at the N1. The fact of the matter is HTC was planning 1ghz phones regardless of the N1 existance or not, remeber that phone list that was leaked last year of all the phones coming out this year? I love my N1 but lets face it google dropped the ball on it.
1. restrictions on the subdizing
2. restrictions on the type of plan
3. No dummy phones for TMO stores
IMO if they would have stuck the N1 in stores made it easy like Droid, Samsung Vibrant, and EVO, then N1 at the time would have been a mega hit. It was the first phone (that I can remember) with a ghz processor ppl would have went nuts for it because of the speed and its a really sexy looking phone.
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Sorry, folks...
The Nexus One is no longer available for purchase directly from Google. For more information on how to purchase the Nexus One, check out our help center.
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so are our phones considered to have "classic status" now?
How about "The best Android device, ever" Status?
...and "No, you can't have one!" Status, LOL
Hehe
We now have one of the best phones no one can get and in limited numbers. There going to be worth some money especially is we get Android 3.0 first. .
the end of an era!
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We now have one of the best phones no one can get and in limited numbers. There going to be worth some money especially is we get Android 3.0 first. .
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I don't understand how people can keep thinking this... NO THEY WON'T. It's a phone...not a fully restored '69 Lincoln with suicide doors. If it didn't sell in droves, then there wasn't that much demand for it, and that's why it was cancelled. People aren't suddenly going to be wanting one now that it's sold out on the website. There are phones with similar specs out now, and in 3 months there will be even badder phones out. It's life... deal with it guys.
hey look, my (insert phone here) is the best phone ever because (very specific pro of phone here)!!!!
but really, the n1 is a good phone but its already been out for almost 8 months. a new iphone comes out every year and i doubt apple keeps making the previous model until the last day
i think it has some additional historical value as the first and possibly only "google" phone made
Do to coverage issues I had to switch carriers, and moved to Sprint. The Evo is only a consolation prize and a OK now that Cyanogen is working on it. However I did post up my MINT Nexus on Ebay last night. Hope the people out there get a ravenous .
Missing My Nexus
not sold out
you can still buy the phone from a provider. see the help center link and choose your country....
i don't care if it's sold out or not. I have mine!
So if my N1 craps out then theres nothing I can do to get it replaced? I think I'll be putting it away for selling purposes
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you can still buy the phone from a provider. see the help center link and choose your country....
i don't care if it's sold out or not. I have mine!
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My country isn't in the list...
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So if my N1 craps out then theres nothing I can do to get it replaced? I think I'll be putting it away for selling purposes
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I'm sure HTC has a stock of refurbs for warranty reasons...
the nexus is the most underrated phone ever.
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the nexus is the most underrated phone ever.
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I agree... completely!
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i think it has some additional historical value as the first and possibly only "google" phone made
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Erm. Quick problem with that. Wasn't the G1 the first "google" phone? >_>
And I agree. About the n1 being underrated. In my personal opinion (imo), I think that for a phone to still be on the cutting edge, and still holding its own 8 MONTHS after it came out? That's pretty B.A. In my personal opinion, that is.
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And I agree. About the n1 being underrated. In my personal opinion (imo), I think that for a phone to still be on the cutting edge, and still holding its own 8 MONTHS after it came out? That's pretty B.A. In my personal opinion, that is.
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It just goes to show how far ahead of the market it was at release!
The sad thing is that the N1 still is the best unlocked phone you can buy in the US. This is the first time I see a phone get canceled before something better comes around. Unbelievable. Better take good care of your N1!
Well, me being on AT&T, the Nexus the best phone I can get! I personally don't want or like the Captivate because of it's UGLY design and being manufactered by Samsung. Everyone thinks that the Nexus was a flop because sales weren't high but, the whole reason it was created was to excel Android OS. All the advertisement it had was just a small ammont of internet ads. In my opinion, it was a success. Before the Nexus, the best phone, hardware wise was the Milestone....
Yep, the sophisticated users quickly bought up the rest because it's a developers dream device and will continue to be to some extent!
How tough is it to go cdma as a cellphone lover? I truly can't find an advantage. It makes phone swapping pretty painful. I mean I would hate to have 29 sprint lines for each of my android/wp7/ios smartphones. How do you survive on cdma? I only ask because a friend of mine just switched and is having withdrawals already.
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How tough is it to go cdma as a cellphone lover? I truly can't find an advantage. It makes phone swapping pretty painful. I mean I would hate to have 29 sprint lines for each of my android/wp7/ios smartphones. How do you survive on cdma? I only ask because a friend of mine just switched and is having withdrawals already.
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withdrawals from what what do you mean lol iv only used cdma as back when I started I hated att phones n t mobile didn't have good service
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cool thanks for information
you dont need to have separate lines for separate phones, just switch which ESN you are using for each line.
If you are changing phones everyday or several times a day you don't want CDMA. But if it's like once a week or once a month it wouldn't be so bad. It's a 5 min call into customer care to have the ESN changed. VZW's LTE is mighty tempting...
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I swap out multiple times a day for one of my two devices. HTC phones just suck when it comes to battery life and build quality so the titan can't keep up with my lumia 800.
Actually I think I may have overlooked something... I know you can dial *228 and option 1 let's you program your phone. All you do is enter your phone number and account pw when prompted and the phone then reboots and upon completion of that it is active.
The only caveat is that it may need to be put into Verizon's system once manually by them. Even then, worst case scenario is that for every phone you'll need to have Verizon do it once, but afterword you'd be golden. The *228 deal takes only slightly longer than swapping SIMs. Food for thought.
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I wasn't aware. Now, if only Verizon would get some better wp7 devices.
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I wasn't aware. Now, if only Verizon would get some better wp7 devices.
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It is kind of hard to sell a carrier on MORE of an OS that has lost market share yet again in quarter 3...
Yeah, perhaps I'll just wait to see if they get any nokia WP7 offerings and open them up as my second carrier. T-mobile is getting annoying.
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It is kind of hard to sell a carrier on MORE of an OS that has lost market share yet again in quarter 3...
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The OS has lost no market share...
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The OS has lost no market share...
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Actually it has...2.4% in Q2 to 1.7% in Q3...
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The OS has lost no market share...
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You have a link? Every report I see says they have been falling since last spring.
The company has certainly lost marketshare. Winmo is dead and that was the majority of their share. WP7 has not lost market share, it is not the same OS. I expected Microsoft's market share as a whole to plummet until nokia started releasing WP7 devices. The nokia devices are doing absolutely outstanding.
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The company has certainly lost marketshare. Winmo is dead and that was the majority of their share. WP7 has not lost market share, it is not the same OS. I expected Microsoft's market share as a whole to plummet until nokia started releasing WP7 devices. The nokia devices are doing absolutely outstanding.
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1% is not outstanding...and nokia is only popular in Europe, but we know Europe is always behind when it comes to style..
1 percent in a week? I'd say that's pretty amazing. Android had that in what? It's first year? WP7 is hardly over a year old and is entering a much more competitive market than Android was. To call market share into play is petty at best, now, if you want to talk usability then it gets fun.
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1 percent in a week? I'd say that's pretty amazing. Android had that in what? It's first year? WP7 is hardly over a year old and is entering a much more competitive market than Android was. To call market share into play is petty at best, now, if you want to talk usability then it gets fun.
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Are you f##king kidding me? To talk market share is petty? These are multi-billion dollar companies, and you don't think they care about the market share when they have to sell the phones? Haha, tell a CEO that that is a petty argument. And yes, in its first year, it has LOST market share.
I am about to start "Occupy XDA": YOU ARE THE 1% Z33!
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Are you f##king kidding me? To talk market share is petty? These are multi-billion dollar companies, and you don't think they care about the market share when they have to sell the phones? Haha, tell a CEO that that is a petty argument. And yes, in its first year, it has LOST market share.
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Well who would have thought that an OS that died off 3 years ago would be cycling out? I guess if you've never signed a contract before you might be under that impression but to the other millions of us who've owned a cellphone, we know how that works. The OS is still gaining, and with the Lumia series essentially being WP7's "droid", the phone that is properly marketed and everything, it can't go anywhere but up. Everything on WP7 has increased much faster than any other mobile OS ever aside from Apple's market share when they were alone in the market.
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Well who would have thought that an OS that died off 3 years ago would be cycling out? I guess if you've never signed a contract before you might be under that impression but to the other millions of us who've owned a cellphone, we know how that works. The OS is still gaining, and with the Lumia series essentially being WP7's "droid", the phone that is properly marketed and everything, it can't go anywhere but up. Everything on WP7 has increased much faster than any other mobile OS ever aside from Apple's market share when they were alone in the market.
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How many times do you have to be told? Nokia will not catch on again in the United states. Europe is backwards when it comes to that stuff. And even in europe, who is going to pay over 400 euro for a Nokia that looks like an Ipod? Hehe, it is really funny to me though that you believe NOKIA to be your savior...
Mind sharing the similarities with an ipod? I really see none aside from the oval shaped bottom. With that in mind, there's many of those. There's no metal body, there's no real similarities. I don't care whether it catches on in the U.S. or not, it can catch on in Europe and get just as much support. Nokia pretty much runs the European and Asian market and that is a massive market. With their introduction of low-end smartphones to those markets after tango, WP7 has endless possibilities. Then of course the U.S. will eventually catch on, after all we're often the ones who are actually behind over here stateside.