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Missing free space in SD card

Guys, please help me out on this weird problem. Check on the pics, notice the 1st picture reports that my Storage Card uses 405.8 MB. However, if i go to the details (2nd picture), if you add up all the usage per folder, it only total to 308 MB. Where's the missing 100MB? I also tried manually investigating this through RESCO Explorer and the same result, usage report doesn't make sense

what sd brand are you using? i had the same problem when i was using my 512mb sandisk (hey mates, no offense to those using this card). the storage indicators showed that i had 480mb of free space...but when i loaded my files i found that i could only use 380-plus mb. card said it was full but the indicator said i still had space to use. i did a number of reformats but no avail; still stuck with the 380mb limit.
since then i've switched to using a 1gig toshiba card; works well for me. indicators show that i had 988 of free space...which is exactly the amount of files i was able to load.
cheers

i'm using this brand of SD Card

well, from what i gather there are some sd card brands which seem to have poor quality in terms of storage, speed and such. when i switched to using toshiba and panasonic cards; i've had no issues since then as compared to when i was still using sandisk or kingston. if you have a bud who has a different brand of card try asking him or better yet try out his card by plugging in your unit.
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Could it be that you are just using loads of small files on a card with large cluster size?
Sascha

SaBo said:
Could it be that you are just using loads of small files on a card with large cluster size?
Sascha
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what do you mean?

4 GB SD Disks

I wanted to post this and share my thoughts. I purchased both the A-Data 150x 4GB SD Card and the Transcend 150x 4GB SD Card for my Universal (specifically, an imate JasJar). Both appear to work fine on my Universal without any problems. I plugged both in straight out of the box. The one problem you MAY have is getting a card read for your PC that will read these cards. Here's one that will definately work:
SanDisk MobileMate™ SD™ Plus 5-in-1 Reader (SDDR-103)
Here's the link:
Link
I've been able to use the MobileMate with both cards and they appear as 4GB removeable harddrives on my computer (XP Pro w/SP2).
Hope this information is useful to some.

Where did you buy the "A-Data 150x 4GB SD Card"?

ebay.

Can you also please check if the A-Data SD card allows you to store pictures and video on it.
I bought the Transcernd 4GB about 2 months ago and I can't store pictures on it using my XDA EXEC. Thus I returned it for a refund.

Both work
I've read that people have had problems with storing picture on the SD Card. I've taken pictures and successfully stored them using BOTH cards (A-DATA and Transcend) and I've watched videos on both.

Excellent, I am going to soon purchase an SD card for my Jasjar. Knowing the 4GB works is great news.
Thanks,

I bought it two days ago from Ebay (flashman) and all is going well apart from two aspect:
1) My portable acer tr 8100 did not recognaize the card and to load files i used special software i saw in this forum
2) before i used 1gb sd and store directly photo and videos take from the phone in that card and all is went good.
Now with this new card i didn't, i have to store directly in the phone memory.
I think is a phone problem not a faulty sd.
A-Data have lifetime guarantee...
Ruppia

Re: Both work
weatheryoko said:
I've read that people have had problems with storing picture on the SD Card. I've taken pictures and successfully stored them using BOTH cards (A-DATA and Transcend) and I've watched videos on both.
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I have that problem I cannot save photos or video with my camera on the A-Data card. The error that comes up is the following:-
Unable to capture.
Not enough memory.
36009:111:0
Now the card is new and its 98% free.
What I am thinking is could it be that your version of camera.exe is different from mine. Weatheryoko can you upload your camera.exe here please.

Re: Both work
SiskoData said:
I have that problem I cannot save photos or video with my camera on the A-Data card. The error that comes up is the following:-
Unable to capture.
Not enough memory.
36009:111:0
Now the card is new and its 98% free.
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That sounds like a problem with the application - sounds like someone has used a signed integer instead of an unsigned integer. It has too much memory to show in to small a space and thus shows a smaller number that is actually available.... It's an app problem, not an SD card problem.

Re: Both work
darkblak said:
SiskoData said:
I have that problem I cannot save photos or video with my camera on the A-Data card. The error that comes up is the following:-
Unable to capture.
Not enough memory.
36009:111:0
Now the card is new and its 98% free.
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That sounds like a problem with the application - sounds like someone has used a signed integer instead of an unsigned integer. It has too much memory to show in to small a space and thus shows a smaller number that is actually available.... It's an app problem, not an SD card problem.
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That makes sense therefore would you say that if I fill up the card more and there is less empty space the card would work with the camera? Or maybe there are different versions of the camera.exe that would handle the extra memory?

Re: Both work
SiskoData said:
That makes sense therefore would you say that if I fill up the card more and there is less empty space the card would work with the camera? Or maybe there are different versions of the camera.exe that would handle the extra memory?
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Yes that sounds like it should work - although how much you need to fill up I don't know. You'd probably need between 1 and 2GB I would imagine.

cktlcmd said:
Can you also please check if the A-Data SD card allows you to store pictures and video on it.
I bought the Transcernd 4GB about 2 months ago and I can't store pictures on it using my XDA EXEC. Thus I returned it for a refund.
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I had the same problem, what you need to do is to keep the free space of your SD < 2GB!
Tommy

tommy1971 said:
cktlcmd said:
Can you also please check if the A-Data SD card allows you to store pictures and video on it.
I bought the Transcernd 4GB about 2 months ago and I can't store pictures on it using my XDA EXEC. Thus I returned it for a refund.
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I had the same problem, what you need to do is to keep the free space of your SD < 2GB!
Tommy
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Correct there as it worked. Hope they fix this bug as I was going to send the card back. Many owners of 4GB sd cards have sent it back because of this bug. Thanks to you, darkblak and this forum this is solved

tommy1971 said:
cktlcmd said:
Can you also please check if the A-Data SD card allows you to store pictures and video on it.
I bought the Transcernd 4GB about 2 months ago and I can't store pictures on it using my XDA EXEC. Thus I returned it for a refund.
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I had the same problem, what you need to do is to keep the free space of your SD < 2GB!
Tommy
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Thanks for this info. I guess the next time I buy one I'll have to remember to fill it up more than 2GB for the camera to store it to the card.

erm, not sure that is the problem. I have gotten exactly the same error before when using the 512MB card that came with the universal. I think it is to do with the speed of writting to the card, and actually, the amount of memory available to the application.

coldpenguin said:
erm, not sure that is the problem. I have gotten exactly the same error before when using the 512MB card that came with the universal. I think it is to do with the speed of writting to the card, and actually, the amount of memory available to the application.
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I had the same problem with my 512Mb card so it can't be a case of card size. Speed of card and memory avaliable might be more likely, as coldpenguin said.
Fin

What I wanted to know is, if it is only the Camera.exe that has this problem or is there any other software that accesses the storage card that has a similar problem.
If it is only the Camera.exe are there different versions that might not have this bug?
My version of Camera.exe is Version 3.00 (Build 21244)

Based from what happened to me, I don't think it is the camera.exe file that has this problem. Why? I had problems with the 4GB Card Transcend card, but I am not having any problems with the San Disk 2 GB ULTRA. I also tried the San Disk 1 GB card (basic) and had no problems with it. Just like what is stated above, I have to agree that the bug lies in the built-in card reader.exe file.

tommy1971 said:
cktlcmd said:
Can you also please check if the A-Data SD card allows you to store pictures and video on it.
I bought the Transcernd 4GB about 2 months ago and I can't store pictures on it using my XDA EXEC. Thus I returned it for a refund.
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I had the same problem, what you need to do is to keep the free space of your SD < 2GB!
Tommy
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For your information, I'm using Transcend 4GB SD (150x). I had the problem and initially I thought it was a memory problem but then it happened even right after I reset the phone, then I tired record to local storage without problem. I tried to fill it with around 2.5GB of video and it works perfectly.
Tommy

cktlcmd said:
Based from what happened to me, I don't think it is the camera.exe file that has this problem. Why? I had problems with the 4GB Card Transcend card, but I am not having any problems with the San Disk 2 GB ULTRA. I also tried the San Disk 1 GB card (basic) and had no problems with it. Just like what is stated above, I have to agree that the bug lies in the built-in card reader.exe file.
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As stated in other posts its not just the size but even the speed that will make camera.exe not save on it. But some questions apart from the Camera not saving photos and movies on the card was the 4GB recognized by the Universal? You where able to install software on the card. Because I could do all this accept saving from the Camera.exe.

Internal/SD storage mess

Hi everyone,
I got the latest Moto X as soon as it went public because I loved the idea of Vanilla Android with SD support. I got the 16 GB version and a 64 GB SD. Ever since I got it, the phone has been bugging me about the storage and today I finally gave in. Until today I kept my photos, music and podcasts on my SD card but the internal memory was constantly full and I couldn't install new apps. So I thought formatting the SD card under Android 6 would make it one with the internal storage. It didn't. It made it worse. I can move apps to the SD card but I can't force photos and other media to be saved there. I was hoping for internal-SD continuity and I got a total lack of control. So now I can't receive SMS and I keep having "storage is running out" notification while I still have 60 GB free on my SD card.
What's your take on this? Thanks!

Since this is about SD cards, I'm having another problem to state if OP doesn't mind. On my Moto X, when using exploring (using file explorer) the original sd card I've used for years, many folders do not show up. The same happens to a video player (RockPlayer), where it doesn't show many folders I have on my card (it did when used on my previous Atrix 2). However, when I go to "Storage & USB" and select the card, everything is normal. That means, only when viewing the sd card via "Storage & USB", all folders appear.
However, applications and games (besides gallery) will assume the first situation, where those folders remain invisible. Does anyone know what the problem actually is?
Edit: After checking, it seems that my /sdcard folder is the same as /storage/emulated/0.
Thank you.

MoCML said:
Since this is about SD cards, I'm having another problem to state if OP doesn't mind. On my Moto X, when using exploring (using file explorer) the original sd card I've used for years, many folders do not show up. The same happens to a video player (RockPlayer), where it doesn't show many folders I have on my card (it did when used on my previous Atrix 2). However, when I go to "Storage & USB" and select the card, everything is normal. That means, only when viewing the sd card via "Storage & USB", all folders appear.
However, applications and games (besides gallery) will assume the first situation, where those folders remain invisible. Does anyone know what the problem actually is?
Edit: After checking, it seems that my /sdcard folder is the same as /storage/emulated/0.
Thank you.
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Seems like my sdcard folder is now C601-8353 under Storage folder, along with Emulated and Self folders.

domi_niku said:
Hi everyone,
I got the latest Moto X as soon as it went public because I loved the idea of Vanilla Android with SD support. I got the 16 GB version and a 64 GB SD. Ever since I got it, the phone has been bugging me about the storage and today I finally gave in. Until today I kept my photos, music and podcasts on my SD card but the internal memory was constantly full and I couldn't install new apps. So I thought formatting the SD card under Android 6 would make it one with the internal storage. It didn't. It made it worse. I can move apps to the SD card but I can't force photos and other media to be saved there. I was hoping for internal-SD continuity and I got a total lack of control. So now I can't receive SMS and I keep having "storage is running out" notification while I still have 60 GB free on my SD card.
What's your take on this? Thanks!
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Have you tried using OpenCamera instead? It's free, open source, AND lets you choose where to store the pics. IMHO the picture quality is better too.
You could also move the pics to the card manually after you take them...

TXJim said:
Have you tried using OpenCamera instead? It's free, open source, AND lets you choose where to store the pics. IMHO the picture quality is better too.
You could also move the pics to the card manually after you take them...
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Great call, thanks for the tip.

I haven't had any problems saving photos or other media to my SD card with adoptable storage. This is something you should be able to specify in preferences whether you are using adoptable storage or not. If this doesn't work with some apps just use a file manager to move the files to the SD card.
Sometimes when I move apps to my SD Card, I would get similar messages about being out of space, even though this wasn't the case. Deleting the cache on SD card seemed to fix the problem. There can also be a problem if your SD card is too slow. However, you would probably get an alert if that was the case.

My advise erase it all internal and sd card start from a blank state the phone should give you the option to mount the sd as internal I don't like how it is implemented so I chose not to use it.

For some strange reason my phone will not read my SD card I have it formatted to internal stage and now it says searching for SD card. I'm so mad I've searched all over with no solution, I'm about to get a new phone and scrap this one, sorry I'm just very upset and I had to vent, of anyone knows of this type of issue please share.
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Enable adoptable storage on ASUS Marshmallow Beta firmware

Although ASUS has removed the new Marshmallow option to format the external SD Card as adoptable storage, it can easily be done via adb. Just follow this guide:
http://www.modaco.com/news/android/...e-adoptable-storage-on-your-s7-s7-edge-r1632/
The only difference I found was that on mine the drive location numbers were separated by a comma rather than a colon (i.e. 169,64).
Here is a screenshot of my 16GB model with 16GB SD card adopted:

kanagawaben said:
Although ASUS has removed the new Marshmallow option to format the external SD Card as adoptable storage, it can easily be done via adb. Just follow this guide:
http://www.modaco.com/news/android/...e-adoptable-storage-on-your-s7-s7-edge-r1632/
The only difference I found was that on mine the drive location numbers were separated by a comma rather than a colon (i.e. 169,64).
Here is a screenshot of my 16GB model with 16GB SD card adopted:
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Thanks that's super useful, I will give this a try and let you know if it works for me, I don't know why ASUS removed this feature as its probably the best feature of marshmallow, anyway I think its recommended to have a minimum of a class 10 SD card when using adoptable storage to ensure there's no slowdown when accessing things on the SD card.

xDEV007 said:
Thanks that's super useful, I will give this a try and let you know if it works for me, I don't know why ASUS removed this feature as its probably the best feature of marshmallow, anyway I think its recommended to have a minimum of a class 10 SD card when using adoptable storage to ensure there's no slowdown when accessing things on the SD card.
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Pretty sure they removed it to keep things simple and because it doesn't work perfectly. Even with a class 10 SD card, it is noticeably slow. I will probably move most, if not all of my apps back to the real internal storage. But that's fine. At least it means I don't have to worry about running out of space, and don't have to manage where podcasts, videos, photos etc are being stored.

kanagawaben said:
Pretty sure they removed it to keep things simple and because it doesn't work perfectly. Even with a class 10 SD card, it is noticeably slow. I will probably move most, if not all of my apps back to the real internal storage. But that's fine. At least it means I don't have to worry about running out of space, and don't have to manage where podcasts, videos, photos etc are being stored.
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Yeah I guess so and the speed is a big issue, I think you'd probably have to use an UHS SD card to make it work smoothly. But still useful

I agree about the UHS card. And even amongst regular class 10 cards, I understand there is considerable difference. Mine was a cheaper brand and performance is not great, but I'm told that Samsung Evo ones, for example, are better.
Also agree that it is a useful feature. Because it needs some management and user interaction, it's probably wise that makers like Samsung and ASUS have taken it out, as it might cause more harm than good for average users who really need things to just work. However, it's a nice feature for us tech nerd xda types who can handle it appropriately, and it's an easy little hack to enable it so it's all good. And let's be honest, we all enjoy little hidden extra features that we can hacktivate by ourselves!

I swapped out my cheap generic Class 10 SDHC for a better UHS (40 Mbps) Class 10 SDHC one today. The difference is very noticeable - apps on the UHS card open almost instantaneously, unlike on the regular card, where there was a long delay before they opened.

Can someone check the build.prop and tell me what this line says
ro.build.characteristics=
If it says nodscard or similar try changing it to say
ro.build.characteristics=default
And see if that will enable native adoptable storage.
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eoghan2t7 said:
Can someone check the build.prop and tell me what this line says
ro.build.characteristics=
If it says nodscard or similar try changing it to say
ro.build.characteristics=default
And see if that will enable native adoptable storage.
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Code:
adb shell getprop | grep ro.build.characteristics
[ro.build.characteristics]: [nosdcard]

kanagawaben said:
Because it needs some management and user interaction, it's probably wise that makers like Samsung and ASUS have taken it out, as it might cause more harm than good for average users who really need things to just work.
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You're getting it all wrong. It's all about profit. If the manufacturers leave in the option to adopt external storage, knowledgeable consumers will have no reason to spend more $$ and buy the manufacturers' devices with larger internal memory. And yes, it also saves them a lot of support issues with people complaining their phone is slow, when it turns out they are using slow SD cards.
So, it's nice that Google added that feature, but ultimately I believe very few of the really big / mainstream manufacturers will actually not disable it. As was mentioned in many articles around the 'net, this feature is really meant for AndroidOne devices, cheap devices with very little internal memory.

So, could anyone post Sequential Read / Write and Random Read / Write speeds that would allow SD card to match or get close enough to ZenFone 2's internal storage?
It's really hard to choose the right SD card when every article in the Internet literally starts and ends with "class 6 card is worse than class 10 card but they are both ok for Full HD video derpaderp..." I KNOW it's OK for HD-video but that's not THE ONLY THING I am going to do with my SMART-freakin'-phone! We are not 5 years old, we can understand a bit more complicated technical specs than that.

Zhabishe said:
So, could anyone post Sequential Read / Write and Random Read / Write speeds that would allow SD card to match or get close enough to ZenFone 2's internal storage?
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You'll never get close to internal speeds. Even with the fastest cards.
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kenbo111 said:
You'll never get close to internal speeds. Even with the fastest cards.
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Well, if we can trust this article, http://www.anandtech.com/show/9251/the-asus-zenfone-2-review/6 , it doesn't seem like completely unreacheble. But it's hard to compare results from different testing software.
Btw, I don't need something extremely close, all I want is to get apps to launch from SD card within reasonable time.

Non-UHS Class 10 card was useless, but now that I am using the 40 Mbps UHS card, it's not that bad. Apps open reasonably fast and hasn't really behaved any differently. And this was a cheap 16GB card from a Japanese maker called Greenhouse that I picked up on sale for the equivalent of about $7 .

I was able to set up the storage as adoptable on my device, but no apps allow the option to move to the SD card. I'm guessing if I want this to happen I need to uninstall/reinstall the apps, since they go to the most available space by default?
Edit: what about copying over data to store externally on the card? Since it's formatted as internal, of course it doesn't show the card in file explorer apps or in Windows. I've got 28 gigs of media files to copy over from the old card and I'm not sure where to put it.

Hallo.
I've tried to enable adoptable storage and it's success. But after 1 month, my sd card has been crash.
The problem is my (real) internal storage now only can run the app, but can't use to save file, music, video, etc. Even I can't use my camera to take photo, bcz the (real) internal storage is not available.
It's bcz when I enable the adoptable storage, it's separated the (real) internal storage only for save data app, and internal storage (from sdcard) for save data app and also file like music, photo, video, etc.
How to enable my (real) internal storage to save data file like usually?
Plz anyone can help? I really appreciate it.

android 7.1.1 ??
Will this work on zenfone 4 max with android 7.1.1? For ADB tools, I wasn't sure what to answer (Y or N) on some of the installation questions. I said N to system wide and N to install drivers. The instructions above seemed ambiguous that you could say yes or no to skip steps, but not sure if that's why it didn't work for me or if this tutorial was for older phone software. Also I have windows 10 and power shell window not command window. Any help much appreciated!

Nokia 6 with SD card?

Is anyone using their Nokia 6 with an SD card?
How does it work? well? Can you move pictures/videos/documents to the SD easily?
what size SD? micro?
Thanks!

I have a 200gb microSD card in my US Nokia 6. All my apps can read files on the card, but because I set it up as removeable storage instead of simulated internal storage (it asks you to choose after you insert the card), only apps that know to request special permission can write to the SD card. Most file managers I've tried can handle writing to it, other apps like text editors are more hit and miss.
I think if I had set it up differently it might work with more apps, but I was worried that would result in it being encrypted and getting cluttered with random data files from every app. If root is ever figured out with this phone then I should be able to have better control of which apps can write to the SD card.

el_mariachi_4 said:
Is anyone using their Nokia 6 with an SD card?
How does it work? well? Can you move pictures/videos/documents to the SD easily?
what size SD? micro?
Thanks!
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It is easy to use. When I taking photo, all image files stock on SDCARD.

thriceberg said:
I have a 200gb microSD card in my US Nokia 6. All my apps can read files on the card, but because I set it up as removeable storage instead of simulated internal storage (it asks you to choose after you insert the card), only apps that know to request special permission can write to the SD card. Most file managers I've tried can handle writing to it, other apps like text editors are more hit and miss.
I think if I had set it up differently it might work with more apps, but I was worried that would result in it being encrypted and getting cluttered with random data files from every app. If root is ever figured out with this phone then I should be able to have better control of which apps can write to the SD card.
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Can it read more than 200gb? I'm thinking of shelling 256gb max but might go for 128gb or 200gb for sandisk as I have files need to be moved. I keep looking at websites that the phone can only support of upto 128gb. thank you

I'm using a class 10 32GB SanDisk SD card with mine and it runs smoothly. I can move a lot of files at once to it and expect transactions to be generally quick. Make sure to set it up as external media otherwise you'd simply be merging the card with your internal storage and won't be able to control what goes into your card. Root is a must for this phone it seems.
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lambdaxi said:
Root is a must for this phone it seems.
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It's a must for most phones... Pity there's no ay to do it with the locked bootloader...