I have encountered an unusual issue (bug?) on the HD and wondered if anyone else had seen the problem (and found a solution!)
First the issue:
When I rotate the device to landscape, applications initially rotate properly. However, after a few seconds the phone dialer screen appears (in landscape mode). It blinks once or twice (like the screen is redrawing) and stays there for perhaps five seconds before switiching back to the original app. However, even though the device is still held i landscape, the application is now in portrait mode too and the only way to get it back to landscape is to rotate the device back to portrait then to landscape again...at which point the whole cycle repeats.
Things I have tried to clear the problem:
So far, all I have tried is a soft reset, which I thought had cleared the problem at first. Sadly, however, it's back.
Repeatability and conditions:
I've only done one soft reset so far as I wanted to investigate a bit further first
It initially happened in Opera with GSen off (it is installed though)
It happens whether or not GSen is active
It happens in all applications, not just Opera (obviously GSen is active when it happens in other applications)
I don't have a HD (yet) but i've read somewhere that GSEN is not working correctly on the HD. There is suppused to be a tool called "Gyrator2" which does the same but is more stable on the HD.
regards jan
hausen said:
I don't have a HD (yet) but i've read somewhere that GSEN is not working correctly on the HD. There is suppused to be a tool called "Gyrator2" which does the same but is more stable on the HD.
regards jan
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May be an option, but I haven't had any problems with GSen and I seem to get the issue whether or not GSen is active. I have even had it in an instance where GSen had not been activated since the previous reboot.
Thanks for the thought though, I'll investigate...
please don't use GSen since it's heavily bugged atm for the HD.. Gyrator2 is an option even though consumes a lot of cpu power (device become slow whenever Gyrator2 rotates the screen)
iain.fraser said:
I have encountered an unusual issue (bug?) on the HD and wondered if anyone else had seen the problem (and found a solution!)
First the issue:
When I rotate the device to landscape, applications initially rotate properly. However, after a few seconds the phone dialer screen appears (in landscape mode). It blinks once or twice (like the screen is redrawing) and stays there for perhaps five seconds before switiching back to the original app. However, even though the device is still held i landscape, the application is now in portrait mode too and the only way to get it back to landscape is to rotate the device back to portrait then to landscape again...at which point the whole cycle repeats.
Things I have tried to clear the problem:
So far, all I have tried is a soft reset, which I thought had cleared the problem at first. Sadly, however, it's back.
Repeatability and conditions:
I've only done one soft reset so far as I wanted to investigate a bit further first
It initially happened in Opera with GSen off (it is installed though)
It happens whether or not GSen is active
It happens in all applications, not just Opera (obviously GSen is active when it happens in other applications)
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Will the problem go away if you uninstall GSEN? I mean, not just making it inactive, but to completely remove it.
eaglesteve said:
Will the problem go away if you uninstall GSEN? I mean, not just making it inactive, but to completely remove it.
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Annoyingly enough (in one way) I've not had the issue since I soft reset a few hours ago. I'm keeping a close eye to see if i can trap what I have been doing just before the issue recurs.
I have suspicions about PCM Contacts but have no good reason to, other than the fact the problem started at roughtly the same time as I installed the latest version.
Next step is to try removing GSen, as you suggest, but I want the issue to recur first to see if I can make some sense of what's happening...
The problem isn't with Gsen.
This happened to me while browsing, it just kept flicking back to portrait and then coming out of Opera.
As a result I thought I'd install Gsen and everything worked perfectly for about an hour. I left the phone (locked) for a while to attend to a few other things and then it started again.
Now I've not had the phone long 10 days or so but I have installed a lot of cabs and applications. At first I thought it might be a bug on the HD but unfortunately it could be anything.
What I will say is that I didn't have this problem before I added new tab icons (manilla), installed Schaps AC or changed the calc skin. Gsen was next on my list.
A soft reset seemed to work for me.
Hope this helps.
Mav.
Switching the phone on and off seems to clear the problem for a while. Anyone solved this?
My solution
Just wanted to say that i had this exact problem.
Fugured it had to be a problem with som custom stuff i had installed, and so it was.
Started uninstalling backwards from the last installed thing, and found that the problem was caoused by a custom status icon cab I installed.
Named Colored Top Bar WWE ST.cab
If you have something similar, this could be the problem.
(BTW, I'm not bashing the author of this file at all. Everyone should know that installling custom stuff is your own responsibility)
Mavrick said:
The problem isn't with Gsen.
This happened to me while browsing, it just kept flicking back to portrait and then coming out of Opera.
As a result I thought I'd install Gsen and everything worked perfectly for about an hour. I left the phone (locked) for a while to attend to a few other things and then it started again.
Now I've not had the phone long 10 days or so but I have installed a lot of cabs and applications. At first I thought it might be a bug on the HD but unfortunately it could be anything.
What I will say is that I didn't have this problem before I added new tab icons (manilla), installed Schaps AC or changed the calc skin. Gsen was next on my list.
A soft reset seemed to work for me.
Hope this helps.
Mav.
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i cannot conclusively say if it's a problem with GSEN or not. but i had the exact same problem with GSEN installed, but not activated. i couldn't solve the problem so i did a hard reset (i didn't bother uninstalling gsen and try it again). i don't have problems anymore, but i do have all my old applications installed, except for GSEN. i currently do not have gyrator or any other screen rotating app installed. i don't have a need for them at the moment. so i don't conclude anything, you can deduce from here.
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J
Fugured it had to be a problem with som custom stuff i had installed, and so it was.
Started uninstalling backwards from the last installed thing, and found that the problem was caoused by a custom status icon cab I installed.
Named Colored Top Bar WWE ST.cab
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I have the same Top Bar and don't have the issue you guys have been describing.
my problem is kinda similar but a little different, my opera works fine w/ landscape and portrait, but when I try to access My Faviorite in landscape mode, it would only display in portrait even though I was holding it landscape and the second half of the screen was still the page content. it's weird and I still didn't got time to do a hard reset first, any one experience this?
I have this issue (damnit), and I am using those color-top-bar-icons. However, I have never been using GSen, I am using gyrator 2. Can anybody confirm that it is top-bar-icons that's causing the problem?
I have the issue and I don't have the top bar colored icons installed.
I do have Gyrator 2 but the problem still occurs when Gyrator 2 is not running.
I don't know why it occurs and it goes away by itself...seems sporadic.
I got Gyrator2 on mine too, but I don't see people in Gyrator thread complaining about this happening...um...do I really need a hard reset for this?
(by the way, I disable all rotation and only enable the programs I used, of course Opera is disabled)
update from mine, I just did a hard reset the the landscape favorite in Opera still got messed up, so I restored my device and gave up. gotta wait for new official ROM maybe...
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Hi,
i have everytime the problem that when i turn the ameo off,
it freeze when i turn it on, this is randomly so i cannot figure out
when this is happends, after soft reset it works again.
Is there a way to find out where the gab is?
tried to close every open application so far, and turn the most
used on after turn of the device.
I'll hope to find out otherwise i need to to the hard reset
(it took that serveral hours to install al again .
thanks
tvrman said:
Hi,
i have everytime the problem that when i turn the ameo off,
it freeze when i turn it on, this is randomly so i cannot figure out
when this is happends, after soft reset it works again.
Is there a way to find out where the gab is?
tried to close every open application so far, and turn the most
used on after turn of the device.
I'll hope to find out otherwise i need to to the hard reset
(it took that serveral hours to install al again .
thanks
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Hi tvrman.
For starters, install Sprite backup (on one of the CD's you got with the Ameo). This will eradicate the need for a full install after a hard reset in the future!
I suggest you do a full hard reset anyway then install Sprite Backup utility.
Only put back your essential apps one by one with 1/2 a days gap between each installation and test the turn off turn on function.
Be sure to use the supplied X-Button application to ensure you properly clode apps down after you're finished with them....or use Wisbar Advance 2, which will do it for you....except for Active Sync (this will always remain active unless shut down manually in memory menu).
I have not once suffered the problem you have in over a months use of the Ameo....might be a faulty unit or a buggy ROM. What version ROM are you using?
Anyway, if all goes well over the next 3 days, do a full backup and save a copy to your storage card or micro drive and be sure to copy a copy over to your PC...that should future peoof you having to do a full install again in the future. And be sure only to back up, if you have no problems with the device and the problems you mentioned earlier. Otherwise you will allways restore the bugs in the device after a hard reset.
Hope this helps. keep us updated on how you get on.
Mackaby007
thanks for you professional answer, i was not aware that spd backup
was on the cd which was delivered at the ameo.
Well yesterday i found out that one of the programs (profimail)
which i'm using serveral times a day for my mail, that this is the problem
I found out that yesterday i didn't use profimail but the built in mail the
whole day and the ameo did not freeze at all the whole day
tried to turn it off an on the whole day and no problems at all,
yesterday late i start profimail and check serveral mails, i close profimail
and turn the device off, later turn it on and a black screen it would not
turn on
After soft reset everthing works.
So i will check today again without using profimail and see what's happends
again.
i'll let you know....
hi,
I had the same problem.
My solution was to format the mini-sd card.
So what i did:
1. copied all data on de minisd in a cardreader to a directory on pc
2. Formatted (not quick) the minisd
3. Copied all data back to the minisd.
All the tests I have tried suggest it is Wisebar Advance 2 that is causing the freezing.
Anyone else find this? Shame as it is the program I like the most
Robert
tvrman said:
Hi,
i have everytime the problem that when i turn the ameo off,
it freeze when i turn it on, this is randomly so i cannot figure out
when this is happends, after soft reset it works again.
Is there a way to find out where the gab is?
tried to close every open application so far, and turn the most
used on after turn of the device.
I'll hope to find out otherwise i need to to the hard reset
(it took that serveral hours to install al again .
thanks
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Have you got a password to lock your phone try removing that see if it still locks , i was having the same issue
Mrsums said:
All the tests I have tried suggest it is Wisebar Advance 2 that is causing the freezing.
Anyone else find this? Shame as it is the program I like the most
Robert
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No such issue here! WA2 runs like a dream on my Ameo...even better than it did on my Hermes or Prophet! I'm using the 2.8.0.2 version of WA2 without WAD.
WA2 + WAD
Yes, in my case it was also WA2. I made my own skin and all work fine. But in time I got more lock-ups. So I decided to reinstall everything. Then things went wrong. That day I have installed everything 6 times. Every time I had lock-ups when I pushed the power button and activated it again. But after disabeling WA I had no troubles anymore. The last production and beta version have the same problems. At this point I have to advice not to use WA2. I did not examine every feature of WA2. So there can be one feature that caused the problem. I made my own iPhone landscape skin and I was very pleased. Could somebody try this skin to see if it freezes their device?
skin
iPhone skin ftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/Software/iPhone.rar
I use a lot of apps. I also use the following plugins on WAD:
SPB Diary
Profiles for Windows Mobile
Windows Life Messenger
QAN said:
Yes, in my case it was also WA2. I made my own skin and all work fine. But in time I got more lock-ups. So I decided to reinstall everything. Then things went wrong. That day I have installed everything 6 times. Every time I had lock-ups when I pushed the power button and activated it again. But after disabeling WA I had no troubles anymore. The last production and beta version have the same problems. At this point I have to advice not to use WA2. I did not examine every feature of WA2. So there can be one feature that caused the problem. I made my own iPhone landscape skin and I was very pleased. Could somebody try this skin to see if it freezes their device?
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I'll give the skin a test run in an hour, but I refuse to use plug-ins again. They have always caused me problems, but WA2 never has. What version were you running?
Tried the i-phone skin and have experienced no issues whatsoever.
Maybe the Problem is WAD and your plug-ins.
WAD keep on giving problems like this...it's a sin for such an interesting application...here it is because I gave up to use it.
Mrsums said:
All the tests I have tried suggest it is Wisebar Advance 2 that is causing the freezing.
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I did some searching and found some suggestions it might be the skin I was using. I changed the skin and no more freezing.
Robert
trayap.exe
Since I removed the trayap.exe from the init part of the registry I did not have any freezing anymore. I will try WA2 again to see if this solves my problem.
By the way, I am using the latest beta's of WA2 and WAD
hi all
i find that if i use the off button to turn off the backlight whilst media player is running it jams the machine, requiring a reboot. i know that i can usethe light button on the keyboard but i sometimes forget that media player is running (ie. paused).
I have the same freezing problem now after a few weeks of usage.
The device was running very nicely but now, without installing anything further or adding anything to the device, it freezes randomly.
It likes to freeze when the backlight goes off, while I play MP3 files or have a phone conversation using bluetooth.
In the past 4 days I have softreset the device no less than 81 times.
I suspect the Microdrive is to blame. Is it sensitive to movement?
I will remove all my software and other files from the microdrive and see if things improve.
In the mean time, has anyone else experienced random and frequent freezing?
Oh, I have the Dopod U1000 branded device with the latest firmware.
ok, I had it with this. 16 more soft resets within 4 hours.
I hard reset the device. So far I see no random freezing, but I didn't install anything extra yet except ozVGA and VJBigPhone. And both of them on the internal memory, so nothing on the microdrive.
The title says it all. This is a survey to gauge the magnitude of the problem among the early adopters of Touch HD.
Please cast your vote only after you have AT LEAST 1 WEEK of experience using the device.
Thanks and cheers.
Mine hangs quite often, when typing SMS very fast. Also it hangs constantly, when browsing in landscape mode with opera. Very, very annoying.
paranoid2007 said:
Mine hangs quite often, when typing SMS very fast. Also it hangs constantly, when browsing in landscape mode with opera. Very, very annoying.
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Tried hard reset? Tried reflashing the ROM? Tried getting a replacement?
Mine hangs often but I can live with it as it is my secondary device and I don't use it much.
Mine hangs occasionally but i found most of the times was "Active Sync" fault, simply close it and it stops hanging
So far, more than 50% of you are saying it never hang even once. This is amazing! I had never thought in my widest dream that it is so good.
I've mine since the 5th of November... so it's about 3 weeks today... and I’ve already forgotten where is the Soft Reset button...
I think that you should include in the poll, another option, something like the 2nd and 3rd options, but that it bothers us.
Since we paid a lot of money for HD and it does not work as it should, it is really annoying and it bothers us.
jolas said:
I think that you should include in the poll, another option, something like the 2nd and 3rd options, but that it bothers us.
Since we paid a lot of money for HD and it does not work as it should, it is really annoying and it bothers us.
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Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortuntely, posters are not able to make this change. Can our moderator help?
Never
I clicked 'never hangs'.
Strictly not true. Have found that if CorePlayer is open, and i try to manually switch off, it won't. Subsequent attempts also fail (even after closing CP), and the only fix is to press the power button a few seconds and turn off. (i guess this is one 'below' a soft-reset but dunno).
Also strange is that if it auto-shuts down with CP open, generally it turns off, but when turned on CorePlayer has no video, and must be closed and opened to fix.
i guess the 2 issues are related to Coreplayer's incomplete Qtv driver - and will be soon fixed.
Else has never hung (2 weeks use) which is brilliant compared to my last PDA (ipaq) - tho' it was often the fingerprint reader that hung. btw i would pay more for the HD with biometric security. i think this is needed, given the amount/type of data most people have on their devices it should nearly be illegal to make 'em without .
I've select never, however I've had a couple of application issues... 1 with network settings and the other with a 3rd party application which both caused application crashes.
How are you defining a hang? WinMo crash screen (application dies) or device becomes unusable and requires a soft reset? My phone has never crashed that bad I've never had to reset it.
Philio25 said:
How are you defining a hang? WinMo crash screen (application dies) or device becomes unusable and requires a soft reset? My phone has never crashed that bad I've never had to reset it.
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Freezes. Not responding to user action, or so slow and unuseable that it requires a soft reset.
So far, one out of four are reporting that freezing occurs frequently, but more than 90% of us are not bothered by this. Any more vote?
Interesting poll!
But i have to mention, i'm absolutly sure the freezing problem is on every HD. It's just a question of the installed software, the running applications and their kind of use.
If i play the whole day SPB sudoku i have not to report any freezings and i'm lucky. But the HD turns me crazy while writing the whole day SMS with permanent freezes.
Just a joke!
surely all these freezing problems will be fixed once we get cooked roms?
MontAlbert said:
surely all these freezing problems will be fixed once we get cooked roms?
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On my Athena, the freezing problem largely disappeared with ROM updates from HTC, but the cooked ROM were far more stable.
So, I believe the same will happen here.
I've had mine for a week now and get regular freezes - mostly when using opera and particularly with opera in landscape mode. Also get freezes when typeing emails although these usually sort themselves out if I'm prepared to wait a while. Every now and again it seems like the wireless connection stops working (i.e. the progress bar for loading a page freezes and won't load any further although all the other apps seem to be ok) - soft reset seems to solve each time.
The most annoying problem for me though at the moment is that I have to close all applications before connecting to my laptop via usb or the running apps just crash as soon as it connects - again probably an activesync issue I guess.
I have never used a cooked rom before but you guys seem to swear by them so hopefully one will come out which sorts these issues - or maybe HTC will post an update.
dcoales said:
I've had mine for a week now and get regular freezes - mostly when using opera and particularly with opera in landscape mode. Also get freezes when typeing emails although these usually sort themselves out if I'm prepared to wait a while. Every now and again it seems like the wireless connection stops working (i.e. the progress bar for loading a page freezes and won't load any further although all the other apps seem to be ok) - soft reset seems to solve each time.
The most annoying problem for me though at the moment is that I have to close all applications before connecting to my laptop via usb or the running apps just crash as soon as it connects - again probably an activesync issue I guess.
I have never used a cooked rom before but you guys seem to swear by them so hopefully one will come out which sorts these issues - or maybe HTC will post an update.
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Have you tried Netfront browser to see if that works better?
potential Freezing solution-worked for me
Don't laugh......this has worked for me. Go into Settings-systems-screen-clear type-uncheck enable clear type
I also have no aftermarket keyboard loaded-just using what came with device....no more freezing during SMS.
I cant get the auto name feature to dump into the SMS or email field when I type the name though
JM
staged2 said:
Don't laugh......this has worked for me. Go into Settings-systems-screen-clear type-uncheck enable clear type
I also have no aftermarket keyboard loaded-just using what came with device....no more freezing during SMS.
I cant get the auto name feature to dump into the SMS or email field when I type the name though
JM
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For those of you who became so frustrated with the freeze and voted the last option, could you all try out this solution and see if it work?
Hello there!
I have an interesting problem with my X1. I don't know what I did but my X1 takes like 7 seconds from the moment I open the slide to the moment it goes into landscape mode. This happens in any situation (even if i just restarted the phone and I'm in programs for ex.).
The crazy thing about this is that I had this problem before and I only got rid of it by getting a new ROM.
I have since made regular backups (with resco backup) in case this problem would reemerge. The thing is that even if I restore the backup (i had backup everything except the memory card) the problem doesn't go away.
Oh...landscape to portrait works just fine (almost instantaneous)
Any ideas on what I could do?
Thanks
I'm afraid it is normal behaviour especially when you have a SE Panel with MANY icons of apps on it.
Mine has 25 icons and also takes some time until all is loaded.
I don't think its that. It lags whether I'm on the today screen, in programs, in a different panel, in a game, etc. And it's always the same amount of time.
So i slide it open, the keyboard lights up, but nothing happens for like 7 seconds.
On the other hand if I rotate the screen manually (via spb pocket plus 4 shortcut), the rotation is done instantaneously...no lag no nothing...
So u see...i don't think its normal.
Right, it's not OK.
Apps switch instantly....
It must be something you installed on your X1
There were no new apps installed... And as i said...i had a backup (from when it worked instantaneously) which i restored and that didn't help either.
Any ideas?
hard reset hopefully could clear your problem
LOL...thanks Why didn't I think of that ?
I have a problem with rotation to landscape that cropped up a while back and I haven't gotten around to posting about it.
I use Artemis ROM, and a while ago upon updating to v2.5 I started to encounter this weird rotation issue (details later). I figured it was just an issue with that version of the ROM, so I waited. Plus I don't use landscape that much, so it wasn't an issue.
6 hours ago I flashed v6.0, and now I'm having the same issue still, so I don't think it's the ROM.
The issue is this: When I turn the phone on, everything is fine, for 6 hours to a day. After that whenever I turn the phone to rotate it to landscape (in any application under any circumstances until I reboot the phone) it'll rotate for ~1 second, and the flip back to portrait.
The device is still rotated to where it should be in landscape when this occurs.
I became suspicious that it was a problem with the accelerometer, so I experienced the problem, and then immediately played Teeter, and Teeter was 100% normal.
Any solutions, I'd really appreciate it, as it's bugging me now that it's cropped up in a much later version.
+1........quoto ; )
I did a hard reset a few days ago and had exactly the same problem when browsing Opera 9.7 in landscape. It would sit in landscape until I touched the screen to move it, then it would switch back to portrait immediately.
I recalibrated the G-sensor and did a soft reset and it's been fine ever since.
Kalavere said:
I recalibrated the G-sensor and did a soft reset and it's been fine ever since.
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Have you soft reset it since then?
Because the problem -- for me -- isn't there when I first power the device on, it appears sometime later and won't go away until I soft reset.
Other than that the ROM is perfect.
BTW, I switched to EnergyROM from Artemis, and the problem occurred again this morning...
for me with artemis 7.0 same problem
Make sure a program that only works in portrait is not running in the background.
This happened to me when I figured out it was actually the Flashlight app running in the background still.
Try closing the programs you have in the background, if needed with a task manager.
Maybe it comes from the Flashligt. Try to close the Flashligt with taskmanager.
Spike15 said:
Have you soft reset it since then?
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Aye, multiple times, the recalibration and first soft reset fixed it for me and I haven't had the problem since.
Taco123 said:
Maybe it comes from the Flashligt. Try to close the Flashligt with taskmanager.
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Thank-you so much!
Artemis 2.5 was where the Flashlight app was added -- before that I used TorchLight, which I'll going back to now -- and because of its long "warm up" (that stupid animation...amy way to disable that?) I would leave it open in the background.
I just tested, opening the Flashlight, trying the rotation -- which caused the problem -- then closing it and trying it -- which solved it.
Because I like landscape for the calculator and typing, this was crippling to me, now it's figured out and I can get back to loving my phone!
Hi,
Bizarre problem started happening on my HD2 a couple of days ago... all HTC apps are now being forced into horizontal orientation, and they won't rotate back to portrait whatever position I hold the phone in.
Other apps not by HTC are fine, for example Opera 10 starts in portrait mode and I can freely rotate between landscape and portrait just fine... it's only HTC's own apps that are affected, so Phone, Messages, Calculator... stuff like that.
I haven't installed any apps recently, this has happened completely at random. I'm able to disable rotation in BsB Tweaks. But I don't want to have to do this. I just want it back to normal. Tried all the obvious things like soft reset etc. It temporarily worked the first time but doesn't now. Re-calibrated G-Sensor... no effect though, and seeing as other apps work fine this clearly isn't the problem.
I'm running stock UK (Vodafone) ROM 1.72. Don't really wanna reload the firmware but I will if I have to. Anyone else had this happen? Any ideas what to do?
Thanks.