Does anyone know if it is possible on windows mobile to write java programs?
No, i don't mean program for windows mobile. I am talking about normal programs for PC or others.
I am a student and we often use java for writing small apps (some oft them don't do anything interesting and dn't have an interface, they just work over the normal command console ). Before i got my HD i had an Asus EEEPC and used JEDIT on it. Now i would like to know if theer is somethign like that on windows mobile. Maybe at least for tiping the code if testing ist not possible.
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Hey,
As you all know I've made a site for touch friendly programs: www.touch-innovation.com
Basically to help me through adding programs and such, I need a windows mobile emulator to make life easier for me!
Link me to some please - free if you can
Isn't there one on the windows site in the wm sdk?
I have that, but it's not an emulator as such, it just catches things (if you see what I mean)
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I have that, but it's not an emulator as such, it just catches things (if you see what I mean)
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It is an emulator. It emulates hardware and therefor enables Windows Mobile to run on hardware that wouldn't be able to run it without emulation.
I use it. You will need microsoft visual studio 2005 or better to start with.
What about the free one from Microsoft? In addition to that you need some emulator images:
Cook one (see my signature)
Download them form Microsoft, too.
I need help - I want to start writing programs for my Tilt. Looking through the posts it seems the C++ is the way to go. I found a bunch of nice tutorials on the web on how to program in C++ but not now to write a program for a pocket pc.
Specifically I need help with which programs to download.
Im looking for a list like this of exactly what I need to get
1. Microsoft embedded Visual C++ 4.0.
2. Microsoft embedded Visual C++ SP4
3. Microsoft pocket pc 2003 sdk.msi
4. Microsoft Windows CE 5.0 Device Emulator
or what ever
Thanks I tried to figure this out on my own but got frustrated after installing like 7 different programs. Seems like you should only need 1 program but it seems like you need to download a bunch.
Also with the Embedded Visual C++ program I dont see where to enter your code - like open workspace or something?
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I need help - I want to start writing programs for my Tilt. Looking through the posts it seems the C++ is the way to go. I found a bunch of nice tutorials on the web on how to program in C++ but not now to write a program for a pocket pc.
Specifically I need help with which programs to download.
Im looking for a list like this of exactly what I need to get
1. Microsoft embedded Visual C++ 4.0.
2. Microsoft embedded Visual C++ SP4
3. Microsoft pocket pc 2003 sdk.msi
4. Microsoft Windows CE 5.0 Device Emulator
or what ever
Thanks I tried to figure this out on my own but got frustrated after installing like 7 different programs. Seems like you should only need 1 program but it seems like you need to download a bunch.
Also with the Embedded Visual C++ program I dont see where to enter your code - like open workspace or something?
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WHAT kind of applications you are trying to write?
Do you need to write a device driver for your PDA?
ronschaefer said:
I need help - I want to start writing programs for my Tilt. Looking through the posts it seems the C++ is the way to go. I found a bunch of nice tutorials on the web on how to program in C++ but not now to write a program for a pocket pc.
Specifically I need help with which programs to download.
Im looking for a list like this of exactly what I need to get
1. Microsoft embedded Visual C++ 4.0.
2. Microsoft embedded Visual C++ SP4
3. Microsoft pocket pc 2003 sdk.msi
4. Microsoft Windows CE 5.0 Device Emulator
or what ever
Thanks I tried to figure this out on my own but got frustrated after installing like 7 different programs. Seems like you should only need 1 program but it seems like you need to download a bunch.
Also with the Embedded Visual C++ program I dont see where to enter your code - like open workspace or something?
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You should be able to do it with visual studio and the emulator, im not 100% sure though, I only know a limited amount of Java.
Most phones support .net/C#/Java, so pick a language
What I want to write
Just some fun stuff =
One idea I had is a generic sound simulator, tie buttons to different sound - .wav files; animal sounds, machine sounds, phasor blasts, drum kit, theme music like - http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/illuminated/a5bf/
I want to have it look nice too with decent graphics.
i suggest to use Visual Studio 2005 or 2008.
It's simplest way to start (and continue) to write programs.
Both native and NET technologies are supported. C++ and C# available.
Both VS versions are coming with integrated Device Emulator with WM5(VS2005) and WM6(VS2008) images for PDA/PDAPhone/SP and remote debugger for real PDA/PDAPhone/SP devices.
If you are using VS2005/2008. Download the latest Windows Mobile 6 SDK (Standard and Pro) for the best Emulation.
Ta
Dave
but c# only works with .net
where c++ works with win32(native) microMFC(Native) and .net
more info can be found
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380069&highlight=programming
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=382995&highlight=programming
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=226412&highlight=programming
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336251&highlight=programming
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305926&highlight=programming
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=302548&highlight=programming
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=228043&highlight=programming
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317913&highlight=programming
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=237932&highlight=programming
yes, С# is for NET only. This language appeared together with NET technology as alternative to Java after breakup with SUN
C# is closer to BASIC than C++. I, personally, don't recommend C#. Ths "strange" language is for lazy people. Almost nothing left of C++ and its ideology.
Visual Studio 2008 Pro trial version
Thanks for you advice - i deleted all that embedded C++ stuff - was way too confusing, must have had like 8 programs installed and still was not working - I like the idea of just 3 things the visual studio and the 2 WM6 SDKs
Im going to try the visual studio 2008 - there is a trial version of it for 90 days
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/vstudio/products/aa700831.aspx
Would i be better off with the 2005 version as Im using Xp not Vista on my main computer. Should I get the Try Visual Studio "Team System" 2008 - Trial Software or just stick with the regular one i downloaded?
I also downloaded the standard and professional WM6 SDKs
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...745-88EF-3D48091A390B&displaylang=en#filelist
I used embedded visual tools in the past (3 and 4). Be aware that you cannot use the WM5 SDK with eVC, you must use Visual Studio for that. The latest thing usable with eVC is the WM2003 SDK, as far as I know. Also, the emulator handling in eVC was quite sluggish and buggy. When I switched to VS2005, it was like a deliverance to me. Also, the help system in VS is a blessing. *g*
Though I used Delphi's VCL in the past, I would never freely touch such a thing on restricted hardware such as in PDAs. Hence, .NET, MFC and of course *cough* Java *cough* are out of the question. I'm a pure C++ writer. The progs are nicely small and fast. And there are always alternatives to the things I can't use because of that: for instance instead of MFC CStrings I got acquainted with STL library's strings. There's also ATL which supposedly can be used instead of MFC for GUI programming, but when I looked for it some years back I found only very little information about that.
Happy coding.
Is it true that you can only develop WinMo C++ in VS Pro?
I read on the Microsoft marketplace that the standard edition dosnt support mobiles..
are there any alternatives (C++ only please..)
yes they only support through pro... but you can get it for free through dreamspark if you are a student
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yes they only support through pro... but you can get it for free through dreamspark if you are a student
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damn, I am a student but my uni isnt listed
I asked one of the admins and they are looking into getting on the list
But it might be too late coz its my last year..
Mic159 said:
damn, I am a student but my uni isnt listed
I asked one of the admins and they are looking into getting on the list
But it might be too late coz its my last year..
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Good news. My uni isn't listed either. It is a simple matter of verifying your student status on journey ed. I'm glad I could help with this because it turns out that I could get all the dreamspark software through my school's MSDNAA program anyways.
Hi there,
I have bought a Samsung D980, and I'm trying to develop a small java game to it.
The problem is that I getting problems everytime , I transfer my game from the PC to cellphone.
I even try the game in Nokia, and it works just fine.
Does anyone have develop a java game that runs on D980?
thanks
Jbed?
Have you downloaded the HTC Java file to your phone? I think its called Jbed.
Most phones dont have java on them, so to make a game for it you need this file in your windows folder.
Hope this helps!
The Samsung D980 don't use Windows Mobile, but a Samgsung OS.
You can check it here http://pt.samsungmobile.com/telemoveis/samsung-d980-specification
Java is designed for compiling once and running everywhere.
But in fact it needs compiling many times and debugging everywhere.
Because different manufactures have their own packages and even slightly different behavior for standard APIs.
It is normal that your java program works on Nokia but not other devices.
You need programming documents for your phone. Or ask Samsung.
Morning everyone!
I recently bought a Cadillac CTS-V Coupe, and noticed that under information, it states the NAV system runs Microsoft Windows Automotive.
I did some recon, and found that this is a stipped down version of Windows CE? I've tried searching to see if anyone has done any hacking, I've seen a few basic mods/hacks, but nothing crazy like the stuff xda-devs push out...
Just wondering if there's been any work done on this? Any cool hacks?
So, you want to "hack" Windows (Embedded) Automotive (7), which is part of Microsoft's Windows Embedded family? What do you mean with "hack"? Please specify.
There is not, and there will probably never be a "hacker" or "modder" scene around devices running Windows Automotive, as all the SDKs are closed to the public and only acessible to manufacturers who signed a deal with Microsoft. There is no way of really adding functionality to these systems for a hobbyist, and even if there was of course it would validate any and all warrantys on the device.
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So, you want to "hack" Windows (Embedded) Automotive (7), which is part of Microsoft's Windows Embedded family? What do you mean with "hack"? Please specify.
There is not, and there will probably never be a "hacker" or "modder" scene around devices running Windows Automotive, as all the SDKs are closed to the public and only accessible to manufacturers who signed a deal with Microsoft. There is no way of really adding functionality to these systems for a hobbyist, and even if there was of course it would validate any and all warrantys on the device.
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I was just wondering if any work had maybe been done. I'm not familiar with the OS as you can tell. But from my previous experience in the Windows Mobile land and some hacking I've seen in the past on devices that ran CE I was just wondering if anything had been done...
I know there's been a few minor hacks and mods (re: interface changes, animations, pictures, voice prompts, map side-loading, etc...). But that's all I've read so far...
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But from my previous experience in the Windows Mobile land and some hacking I've seen in the past on devices that ran CE I was just wondering if anything had been done...
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Windows Automotive is based on Windows Mobile, not on Windows CE. Perhaps 'unlockers' developped for Windows CE might do it, who knows?
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Windows Automotive is based on Windows Mobile, not on Windows CE. Perhaps 'unlockers' developped for Windows CE might do it, who knows?
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I read that it runs a Windows CE kernel, also read that it uses a lot of stuff that Windows Mobile uses... Main interest would be to see if it's possible to load up a complete Windows GUI (like what people did for the HTC Shift)...
I have a cts-v as well and I'm hoping to play with the latest nav software update disc (2012) when I receive it tomorrow. I know some have converted it to usb so it doesn't take 2-3 hours to update your system. I'm also wanting to see if I can do some mods/hacks/tweaks to it just to play around. Can you point me in the right direction on the mods/tweaks you've read about? Of course I'd just like to start out with images/sounds/slash screen stuff first.
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jwoegerbauer said:
Windows Automotive is based on Windows Mobile, not on Windows CE. Perhaps 'unlockers' developped for Windows CE might do it, who knows?
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what about windows embedded device like HP mediasmart connect x280n can you update it to windows embedded 8 pro
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Wondering if anyone ever did anything with these... I just bought one myself in my '09 CTS-4 . You can remove the hard drive and image it to your local hard drive and I have seen where people have been able to access the files within. Since Windows Mobile Auto is related to Windows mobile you should be able to use some of the same tools you would use with Windows Mobile. My understanding is that it is not a stripped down but a supped up version to support additional hardware and functionality. .Net code is byte code that is run by the runtime in standard windows and is easy to decode and reconstruct the source code. I am guessing windows Mobile is similar. You should be able to reconstruct enough that you can use the standard .DLL from windows mobile auto in a regular windows mobile development environment then just copy the finished file over... In theory anyhow... I have seen information that it may require signing but I am not sure that signing was necessary with Windows Mobile 5. I will be tearing apart my new NAV system before I install it to see what I can access in it.
Did you find anything? I'm looking to "hack" my 2011 Fusion Sport w/ Nav. Runs on similar platform based on my research.
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Wondering if anyone ever did anything with these... I just bought one myself in my '09 CTS-4 . You can remove the hard drive and image it to your local hard drive and I have seen where people have been able to access the files within. Since Windows Mobile Auto is related to Windows mobile you should be able to use some of the same tools you would use with Windows Mobile. My understanding is that it is not a stripped down but a supped up version to support additional hardware and functionality. .Net code is byte code that is run by the runtime in standard windows and is easy to decode and reconstruct the source code. I am guessing windows Mobile is similar. You should be able to reconstruct enough that you can use the standard .DLL from windows mobile auto in a regular windows mobile development environment then just copy the finished file over... In theory anyhow... I have seen information that it may require signing but I am not sure that signing was necessary with Windows Mobile 5. I will be tearing apart my new NAV system before I install it to see what I can access in it.
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Hi there
Can any body upload the latest disc for the Cadillac cts? or just sent a link to my email: [email protected]
thanks
Ronen
I have seen videos of microsoft surface with WinRT and it comes with full desktop including windows explorer, good old control panel, standard accessories like calculator, notepad etc. (unlike I expected - I thought it would be just metro with very stripped desktop only for office).
Does that mean if someone compiled program for ARM, would it run on Windows RT?
RT only does metro.
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RT only does metro.
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I believe it could if those apps were wrote for ITS desktop mode and distributed via Windows Store. One can make such app - but what for?
Unless like with Office apps it is convenient to have them on task (few Windows) bar for easy swap you dont really need a desktop.
Rt can run exes but they have to be compiled for arm and signed by Microsoft. This is why office works, and we may see visual studio and other Microsoft stuff in the future.
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So in the other words, unless someone figures out how to disable signing, we can't run anything on WinRT? It seemed like a promising product for a moment...
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So in the other words, unless someone figures out how to disable signing, we can't run anything on WinRT? It seemed like a promising product for a moment...
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No, "unless someone figures out how to disable signing" AND app itself will be written for ARM architecture. In case of x86/64 apps (like was "original" Office) they have to be recompiled.
I believe it is way more difficult than "jumping" between ARM platforms like Windows Phone, iOS and Android.
One would think that difficulty of such action would be (starting with the easiest/least time consuming task):
1. Preparing app that was meant for WP8 so it can run on Win RT
2. Preparing an app from Android/iOS/WP 7.x so it can run on Win RT
3. As above but from x86/64 platforms...
I know about whole ARM thing. I was just curious if microsoft allows us to run our own desktop apps if they are compiled properly.
I very much doubt that.
Those of you who will have such need will be able to do so under dev accounts. To all the rest both modes will stay shut.
This way Ms will be able to make cash from its Windows Store.
Since they had to keep Win Pro open, because hardly anyone would swap from XP/Vista/7 it is not the case with RT.
Ms can follow footsteps of iOS and Android.
More intresting to me is how long will it tkate to brake this (RT) system...