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I did a Google search for 'HTC "Touch HD"' webpages in the last 24 hours and this came up from the O2 Forums.
Gulioth on O2 Forum said:
Daz, i've got it on good authority that it will be released on O2 before the year is out - just need to hold on that little bit longer !!
They didn't want to mention a specific date but first week in December looks probable, depends if the network testing goes to plan
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Gulioth on O2 Forum said:
Well I'm as sure as what I've been told by 2 sources. Very close to being released, currently with the network for testing. Unless there are any issues, should be available on O2 in December. If not, don't shoot the messenger!
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PWJW on O2 Forum said:
Now just diverging to the rumours that O2 will be getting this themselves, I was very surprised to hear, when I wandered in to my local O2 shop, that they were expecting them in in December. WTF I thought, so I checked out the news, and lo and behold there are a few others that have heard the same. Now I'm not going to hold my breath on this for too long, but if that is true I don't mind waiting a couple of weeks...
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Don't shoot the messengers' messenger
Touch HD directly from O2
Hi there - it's quite odd to see myself quoted here! (I'm PWJW in the above mentioned thread).
I should point out that the thread that this is from is about buying the phone from mobiles.co.uk (here > http://forum.o2.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=9555&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=180), which is offering O2 deals. The first two comments may well be referring to availability through this route, or not, I am not sure myself, which is why I raised my point, hoping for some clarification.
I spoke to someone in an O2 shop, and they said that they were aware of the Orange exclusive, but thought it was only until the end of the month, and that they (O2) would be getting it in in early December. Now I took that with a big pinch of salt, because I usually know more about handsets and release dates (due to these great forums) than they do!
I was actually so shocked that I did not ask the obvious follow up questions like "Are you absolutely sure about that?!" and "Can I have it in writing?", but there you go. I might give them a call in the morning and see if there is any "news"...
Fingers crossed, as this would save me some hassles I could do without.
So much for the Orange exclusive!!!
O2's network sucks though, 3G coverage is the worst of the lot... Why would you want it on O2?
Philio25 said:
So much for the Orange exclusive!!!
O2's network sucks though, 3G coverage is the worst of the lot... Why would you want it on O2?
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lol! Well I'm already there, that's why
I'm not averse to switching network, but O2 works in my home, which is also where I work, and therefore where I need to use my phone 99% of the time. I also have personal reasons for never going near Orange, so that leaves my options limited, though I have seen the HD available on Vodaphone, which is tempting > http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/Brands/HTC/b509/n443/p3185.aspx
At the moment I am waiting to see one for real before making decision, but I know that I am only postponing the inevitable. At least if O2 get this themselves, then I can negotiate an upgrade from them - I'm on Simplicity at the moment, which I have to say is a cracking deal - £20pm, 600 mins + free bolt-on ("unlimited" web in my case).
Well, it's appeared on the Intranet in the past few days, Orange seem to think they've got the HD as an exclusive "...well into 2009!"...
its all a bit dodgy if you ask me, we know O2 Germany are running with the HD, we know Orange have some sort of exclusive deal but for how long remains at question, perhaps a get around for this would be the fact that Orange WOULD have exclusive rights to Touch HD, simply because 2 would make it there own so perhaps that might be the answer.
Ive heard that There is a XDA release in December but its not the HD, but as teh other Forums suggest it may well be headed O2 directs way.
All in all im somewhat confused, if anyone has any answers out there please feel free to enlighten us!
Its also worth noting that Both the XDA Ignito and Serra were registered names against there respected phones LONG before they actually released them, and since ive not heard a peep about a new XDA name its doubtful in my opinion that an XDA Touch HD will be here this side of new year.
Well I phoned a store in Hertfordshire, they said no idea. The girl searched on her system and came up with strange alternatives.
I phoned upgrades twice. First person said no idea. Second person gave me a lecture on how HTC phones are branded O2 XDAs. Yes.... Ok.
dazza9075 said:
Ive heard that There is a XDA release in December but its not the HD, but as teh other Forums suggest it may well be headed O2 directs way.
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Probably the XDA Mantle. Screen not as big as the Touch HD. You can Google it.
Boz (Site Adminstrator) at 4WinMobile.com said:
It has already been noted that O2 definitely won't be taking the Touch HD on I am afraid. Not much use to you I know but other carriers should take it on around January time hopefully.
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http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/htc-touch-hd/18147-touch-hd-uk-exclusive-orange-5.html
HTC HD on O2
Hi All,
Just wanted to let everyone know that I have got my HTC HD on O2. Completely unbranded and without any logos... Brilliant! The only website I found selling this on O2 last week was e2save!! all other websites have it on preorder on O2.
Hope this helps.
Kind regards,
Zish
xda flint or something, big arse pda, specs look ok but nothing fancy apart from a large screen and a good sizes keyboard. more like a ultra mini laptop than a pda.
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Hi All,
Just wanted to let everyone know that I have got my HTC HD on O2. Completely unbranded and without any logos... Brilliant! The only website I found selling this on O2 last week was e2save!! all other websites have it on preorder on O2.
Hope this helps.
Kind regards,
Zish
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how did you manage to get this phone on o2 from e2save if the website says pre-order on o2??? lol that's strange.
gonadski said:
I have seen the HD available on Vodaphone, which is tempting > http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/Brands/HTC/b509/n443/p3185.aspx
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This is very tempting for me too. But are Vodafone good? as i'm a T-Mobile user and I am getting bored with them and their phone releases. But I fear that it I leave they will get the phone so I am waiting till the beginning of next year to see whats happens.
Hi,
I dont know if this is the right place to ask this but I was planning on putting my HTC Touch HD up for sale (planning on buying a HTC Hero ). I've only had it a few months and not used it that much, as I use a work phone the majority of the time. No scratches on screen or phone itself at all. I plan on selling with a variety of applications I have downloaded over the few months. I am thinking of setting the asking price as £300. I was wondering if you thought this was reasonable giving this description.
Cheers for any responses
EDIT: Meant to add that the phone is locked to the orange network at the moment.
ExO_PoLiTiX said:
Hi,
I dont know if this is the right place to ask this but I was planning on putting my HTC Touch HD up for sale (planning on buying a HTC Hero ). I've only had it a few months and not used it that much, as I use a work phone the majority of the time. No scratches on screen or phone itself at all. I plan on selling with a variety of applications I have downloaded over the few months. I am thinking of setting the asking price as £300. I was wondering if you thought this was reasonable giving this description.
Cheers for any responses
EDIT: Meant to add that the phone is locked to the orange network at the moment.
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Thats a pretty good price, you could check what there selling for on Ebay too you may even get offers on here also there is a Marketplace thread you can post on which will draw interest, I wouldnt worry about the being on Orange as people can flash new Roms and not have to use Orange, I would attach Pictures of course.........Good luck, If i didnt have a wife I would buy a second HD from you lol
ExO_PoLiTiX said:
Hi,
I dont know if this is the right place to ask this but I was planning on putting my HTC Touch HD up for sale (planning on buying a HTC Hero ). I've only had it a few months and not used it that much, as I use a work phone the majority of the time. No scratches on screen or phone itself at all. I plan on selling with a variety of applications I have downloaded over the few months. I am thinking of setting the asking price as £300. I was wondering if you thought this was reasonable giving this description.
Cheers for any responses
EDIT: Meant to add that the phone is locked to the orange network at the moment.
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Price on E-Bay for 'real' sales rather then ones that sell then get re-listed a couple of days later have been dropping pretty consistently.
I'd say £220-£240 is probably a good target price now.
haha thanks man, i hope i get it sold too really fancy the hero!
tell your wife am disappointed just kiddin.
I'll give the market place thread a go, didnt know there was such a thread.
I guess i'd settle for £240ish for it if it came to it.
Thanks for the responses.
ozmoran said:
Good luck, If i didnt have a wife I would buy a second HD from you lol
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Why not buy a HD for your wife then?
Can someone point me in the right direction for the thread concerning the above and the ability to get out of the contract please. I have spent ages looking. I had it as a bookmark but have re-installed.
Thanks for your help.
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i think...
Im sorry to say you might be too late, pretty sure that they reversed their chnges after loosing so many customers.
I bought an omnia hd in may ended up paying 2 months line rental. got the phone for 80 pounds.
i read ab9ut this on money saving experts i think
Really surprised by the contents of the first thread. O2 are doing the exact same thing, since June they have stopped their retention deals. There is no chance of getting their XDA range let alone a modern htc phone due to there iphone supply.
If orange are out, o2 are out, that leaves T-mobile (for now) and vodafone.
Fergus278 said:
Really surprised by the contents of the first thread. O2 are doing the exact same thing, since June they have stopped their retention deals. There is no chance of getting their XDA range let alone a modern htc phone due to there iphone supply.
If orange are out, o2 are out, that leaves T-mobile (for now) and vodafone.
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Well t-mobile and orange are merging so will have to see how that effects them.
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Im sorry to say you might be too late, pretty sure that they reversed their chnges after loosing so many customers.
I bought an omnia hd in may ended up paying 2 months line rental. got the phone for 80 pounds.
i read ab9ut this on money saving experts i think
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I had a look at that site but couldnt see it. Thanks anyway I will keep looking.
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Yep your too late. They did a u turn on the new charges, and stopped people from cancelling.
As the title says, What would you do? Pre-Order expecting stock to be non existant when actually released? or wait for o2 to give away their hand?
I am on o2 don't want to move to another service provider, definatly want the phone as soon as its out or as near as. My contract isn't due till july
I do have some cash that I can use to buy but not ideal (the gaffa will kill me).
Paying off my existing contract will be cheaper than buying the HD2 but then I won't be able to upgrade for 18months.
or buy the phone and in less than 9 months I can get another one and sell it.
I just don't know. Do I think about things too much? LOL
Either way I will have my HD for sale as soon as I get the HD2! Whats a fair price?
Personally I'd wait. There's always problems when a new thing comes out, whether it's not enough stock to go around (remember all the stuff with the HD from mobiles.co.uk this time last year?) or technical problems that need ironing out. It's usually best to let all the hooha die down and let everyone else put up with and solve all the issues
I know what you mean, I got my HD from mobiles.co.uk but didn't experience any problems, process was smooth and got the phone really quick.
Also just found the HD2 for £499 which is much cheaper than most other places. God its so hard not to click buy buy buy!!
Oh dear my finger slipped. Got it for £494.95 + Delivery.
Anyone want a Mint HD?
Where is it that price please?
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Where is it that price please?
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MobileFun £499 with this Promotional Code "MFAWOCT9" Job Done!!!
Just a waiting game now!! I am so impulsive!! LOL
Thanks, might join the 'impulsive buyers union', although the seeming lack of a front camera on the HD2 is a potential stumbling block for me...
Cheers for the heads-up Richard.
I'm currently on a monthly SIM only contract with O2, and spoke to them yesterday about upgrading when they get the phone. I was strongly considering doing that, but I reckon I'll pay mobilefun a visit and then sell my HD to make back half the cost.
Nice - thanks
Edit: Ooooh - just noticed the release date of 11/11/09. O2 is looking appealing again!
Also on sim only with o2 at the moment - they seemingly don't let you upgrade until you've been on sim only for 6 months though for some reason, so I think if I want it before February (when I'll have been with them for 6 months) I will need to buy it, and stick on the cheap sim only deal.
Oh, and does anyone know when mobilefun charge your card - on order or on dispatch? Thanks!
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Cheers for the heads-up Richard.
I'm currently on a monthly SIM only contract with O2, and spoke to them yesterday about upgrading when they get the phone. I was strongly considering doing that, but I reckon I'll pay mobilefun a visit and then sell my HD to make back half the cost.
Nice - thanks
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Your welcome, Thats exactly my plan now. I think you can upgrade 3 months early on o2 18 month contracts too so in april I can get another and sell it. Then the original HD2 won't of cost me a bean. If all goes to plan that is. LOL
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Thanks, might join the 'impulsive buyers union', although the seeming lack of a front camera on the HD2 is a potential stumbling block for me...
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I am a little dissapointed they give new hardware and take some other hardware away from us at the same time but I think they have realised that Video calling just hasn't taken off so they probably don't see the point of having a front camera.
I can count on 1 hand how many times I have used it since having a Diamond and my HD.
My girlfriend might see it differently as she uses the front camera as a mirror sometimes! lol
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Also on sim only with o2 at the moment - they seemingly don't let you upgrade until you've been on sim only for 6 months though for some reason
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skank - ask them to put you through to cancellations and ask them the same question. Yesterday, the CS girl I spoke to told me exactly the same thing as you, but put me through to cancellations because I had a query about cancelling my contract and when it would take effect. The girl in cancellations checked and said that they can do 2 types of credit check. One of them means you can't upgrade within the first 6 months, but the other means you can upgrade whenever you want. She said since they'd done a full credit check on me when I joined, I could upgrade immediately, so I'll probably go for that IN 10 DAYS TIME!!!! when the phone is supposed to become available.
It sounded like the CS staff don't really have the full picture, but the cancellations staff know a bit more. They were really helpful.
Good luck!
Thanks John. I did go to cancellations when I called but the guy seemed a bit dopey. Might call back. He was saying it might depend on whether or not I was with o2 before I went sim only, which I wasn't.
Same here - I was with Orange until they did that whole price change blunder. I was one of the lucky ones who got out of the contract and immediately moved to a virgin sim only deal. The coverage was sooooooo bad that I moved to O2. I've only been with them a week and they were more than happy to upgrade me.
Maybe you're right - call back and cross your fingers that you get someone a bit more clued up. I really should have asked the girl I spoke to for her name as I expect the next person I speak to will say "No. Can't upgrade you." and I'll then be outside the 14 day cancellation period.
I just thought i'd post this up, a reply I just got from o2 regarding the HD2. Doesn't really bother me now I have pre-ordered but some of you may be interested.
Good afternoon Richard
Thanks for emailing us about your phone query. I understand that you're interested in buying an HTC HD2 and want to know when it'd be available with us. Let me quickly look into this matter.
Richard, you'll be excited to know that this fantastic phone will soon be available with us. However, I'm unable to comment on when this phone will be launched as it's due to be released in the future. As soon as its available with us, it'll be immediately updated on our website.
Cheers Richard.
The girl I spoke to said that O2 has a release date of 19/10/09, but it's not official yet, as they're still "going through checks". That date can be put back. Basically, they'll put it on the website as soon as they have a definite and confirmed release date.
Need now to figure out how to sleep for a week and a half without starving or getting sacked, just to make the day come quicker! lol
Just called o2 and they said definitely no upgrade before 6 months, for anyone. You might want to call and check john!
I know you can't get a PAC and use it on the same network, but is it possible to go from o2 simplicity - orange PAYG - o2 contract with HD2?
Surely it is...
johncmolyneux said:
Cheers Richard.
The girl I spoke to said that O2 has a release date of 19/10/09, but it's not official yet, as they're still "going through checks". That date can be put back. Basically, they'll put it on the website as soon as they have a definite and confirmed release date.
Need now to figure out how to sleep for a week and a half without starving or getting sacked, just to make the day come quicker! lol
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Yeah, wish we could hibernate!! Your like me, Hate waiting for new tech!! LOL
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Just called o2 and they said definitely no upgrade before 6 months, for anyone. You might want to call and check john!
I know you can't get a PAC and use it on the same network, but is it possible to go from o2 simplicity - orange PAYG - o2 contract with HD2?
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Well I hope to have more luck than you're having. The girl I spoke to said I didn't even need to go via the PAYG route to keep my number. I was considering a 14 day cancellation, then an O2 PAYG, then an O2 contract.
Guess we'll just have to wait and see. If I get anyone helpful again, I'll make sure to get their name (and possibly number), and pass it on to you.
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Well I hope to have more luck than you're having. The girl I spoke to said I didn't even need to go via the PAYG route to keep my number. I was considering a 14 day cancellation, then an O2 PAYG, then an O2 contract.
Guess we'll just have to wait and see. If I get anyone helpful again, I'll make sure to get their name (and possibly number), and pass it on to you.
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Thanks John. Good luck, and if you could let me know that would be great.
If you are considerin an order with Expansys - think again!
I tried to post this in the Expansys forums but it was deleted within minutes and it seems they have now blocked my right to post!
Ordered the Desire HD with free accessoy pack (204815) when stock was showing as available and confirmed that the item was in stock with customer services prior to placing the order.
Order summary showed everything in stock but when the order moved to 'in progress' the Desire HD then showed 'Estimated 1 day'. This then moved to 3 days and is currently showing 6 days!
Called customer support and was told that everything is in stock but the Desire HD - this was obviously the main part of the order. When questioning why the site said 'in stock' when ordering I was offered no explanation and was told that the Desire HD is in high demand.
Poor Expansys, very poor. If you don't have the stock, do NOT say that you do!
This mirrors my experience 18 months ago with the my HTC Magic order I finally cancelled my order having been told good luck but no-one has any in stock and got one from phones4u delivered the following day. I have stayed away from Expansys since but if you look they always claim to be getting items in much earlier than anyone else
I really do hate it when any online company shows something I want as "IN STOCK" when in actual fact they have nothing, www play com also does this.
MarkieSA said:
I really do hate it when any online company shows something I want as "IN STOCK" when in actual fact they have nothing, www play com also does this.
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lol, my R2-D2 ice buckets have been instock soon for 30 months with play so far
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I really do hate it when any online company shows something I want as "IN STOCK" when in actual fact they have nothing, www play com also does this.
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Worse still is being lied to when calling to check stock level on the site. On two occasions I spoke to Expansys (two separate orders) and on two occasions I was told they were in stock. Guess what, on two occasions the order reverted to 'awaiting stock' following payment!
Not impressed with Expansys at all. The part that annoyed me even further is that my query and warning to others in the Expansys forum was removed within minutes and I was barred from posting again!
Not good business!
Expansys are scammers, pure and simple. I've had a couple of similar experiences and now wouldn't touch them with a barge pole.
I strongly advise everyone to keep well away.
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They're showing 99 in stock at the moment so you should be getting yours soon. Hopefully. Fingers crossed.
I always stick to ebay when buying new phones and the sellers with excellent feedback usually dont let you down.
I was going to buy a couple of charging docks from Expansys (my wife has a DHD too) and I was pleased to see a voucher for 50% off. At the basket it would only discount one dock and not two so I had a grumble to myself and decided to buy neither. Nice looking little dock though, but I am put off buying there by the stories here.
The exact same thing happened to me when I ordered my htc desire a few months back, they said they had it in stock on the website, then then out of stock, then estimated 2 days, then 5 days then 10 days .
It was so bad I almost harmed myself!
Anyways why are you ordering from expansys, they have the highest price at the moment for the Desire HD, there are other places selling it cheaper.
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If you are considerin an order with Expansys - think again!
I tried to post this in the Expansys forums but it was deleted within minutes and it seems they have now blocked my right to post!
Ordered the Desire HD with free accessoy pack (204815) when stock was showing as available and confirmed that the item was in stock with customer services prior to placing the order.
Order summary showed everything in stock but when the order moved to 'in progress' the Desire HD then showed 'Estimated 1 day'. This then moved to 3 days and is currently showing 6 days!
Called customer support and was told that everything is in stock but the Desire HD - this was obviously the main part of the order. When questioning why the site said 'in stock' when ordering I was offered no explanation and was told that the Desire HD is in high demand.
Poor Expansys, very poor. If you don't have the stock, do NOT say that you do!
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Same story here. I was wstching DHD availablity time wiggle like stock prices between 15 and 1 day.
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Mojo Fones said:
They're showing 99 in stock at the moment so you should be getting yours soon. Hopefully. Fingers crossed.
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I STRONGLY suspect they are not in stock at all and this is just a ploy to secure 'pre-orders'. Let's face it, their price is that far inflated over the competition what else would make us buy from them, the fact they have it 'in stock' even though they don't!
There is no way they would suddenly have 100 units in stock when I was told today they are having trouble maintaining stock level and that they expect a delivery on Tuesday, therefore mine SHOULD be shipped out Tuesday or Wednesday.
My order still shows 'Estimated 6 days' even though stock shows as 99+ A complete joke!
Good luck to all who place an order with Expansys!
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I was going to buy a couple of charging docks from Expansys (my wife has a DHD too) and I was pleased to see a voucher for 50% off. At the basket it would only discount one dock and not two so I had a grumble to myself and decided to buy neither. Nice looking little dock though, but I am put off buying there by the stories here.
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They MIGHT be ok for accessories but then having had first hand experience of their sly ways I can not recommend them. Buy at your own risk :-/
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Anyways why are you ordering from expansys, they have the highest price at the moment for the Desire HD, there are other places selling it cheaper.
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Simply because they had them in stock, or so I was told!
Personally I no longer believe a word these cowboys say and I will definitely be recommending that people to not buy from Expansys after my experience.
Not surprising to hear, unfortunately. I ordered my Hero through them last year, and the days kept creeping up, with stock levels showing as available. A common trend, it seems.
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Not surprising to hear, unfortunately. I ordered my Hero through them last year, and the days kept creeping up, with stock levels showing as available. A common trend, it seems.
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I really can't see why they are allowed to say they have something in stock when they clearly do not. Moreover, to be told they are in stock when ringing to verify the stock level on the website is just plain dishonest!
Removing my post in the forums and blocking my access is just the icing on the cake!
Another one with a bad experience of eXpansys.
It took them over 2 weeks to deliver my daughter's HTC Snap even though it was supposedly in stock. Ignored e-mails too. Terrible customer support.
Complete and utter shysters, plus that annoying t**t, Peter Jones has his sticky fingers in the company.
Please, for your own good, avoid eXpansys like the plague!
I would also recommend avoiding Expansys.
In my experiences, their stock numbers are not reliable (i.e. fabricated). Their deceptive business practices lure you into ordering with them then keep you hanging on waiting for your product.
On one particular order when I queried when delivery was to occur I was told to "relax" and that it was "on it's way." If their pricing was cheaper/competitive then you could reasonably put up with this.
Other than a poor customer experience, inflated prices and deceptive/misleading business practices they are fine (i.e. you'll eventually get what you've purchased in good condition).
Would recommend Handtec first, then Clove as better alternatives.
Killiandros said:
Other than a poor customer experience, inflated prices and deceptive/misleading business practices they are fine (i.e. you'll eventually get what you've purchased in good condition).
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I agree that this quite nicely sums things up with this company.
Expansys also shipping Vodafone branded DHD as "sim-free, unbranded"!!!
1) Expansys do get 100 handsets but it seems they only update the 'in stock' numbers once a day when they 'process' orders. If you are customer 1-99 then great, no problem but if come online in the evening and are customer 100+, and they haven't updated the numbers, then you essentially become a pre-order - even though it says in stock. Dodgy.
2) BUT, way more dodgy... I just got my DHD yesterday: sim free, unlocked, unbranded and clean ...or so I thought.... But what do I see as soon as I boot? Vodafone branding. Called them; "oh, but it is just the boot logo, otherwise it is a normal DHD" Not good enough, I buy unbranded cos I want unbranded!
And Vodafone 360 replaces Amazon MP3 in the HTC music player too - so more than just a boot screen. What else is affected? Where do the upgrade ROMs come from? HTC or so I have to wait for a Vodafone ROM??
Worst of all, when I call HTC to migrate my Navigation subscriptions they tell me I should return the DHD as I shouldn't have a UK Vodafone branded handset in Sweden, and that Expansys shouldn't be selling it to me.
3) To give Expansys some credit here (a little), they send TNT in a few hours to collect the Vodafone handset and supposedly have a replacement, real sim-free, unbranded handset to send me tomorrow. Just hope it exists and shows up.
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BUT, way more dodgy... I just got my DHD yesterday: sim free, unlocked, unbranded and clean ...or so I thought.... But what do I see as soon as I boot? Vodafone branding.
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Wow, that IS dodgy! Wonder how that slipped in there!
Expansys is known for a dodgy rep , if you are buying sim free from the uk stick with clove or handtec dont even consider expansys.
i boughts something a while ago from them i received an empty box :\, when i asked questions i got no answer i did a charge back thingy with my bank and got the money back, was for a replacement phone charger luckily it didnt cost too much