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The new ROM

I am about to download and install the new .48 ROM, but what excatly did they fix?
Are people sending and recieving all sms'es and calls now?
Are the buggy volume control fixed?
What about the big waiting time when launching the messenger app with people who have a long sms-history?

As far as i am aware absolutely no issues whatsoever have been "fixed".
This "new" ROM is simply the latest version being shipped in worldwide devices.

The weekly calendar issue seems to be fixed.

kasperknop said:
I am about to download and install the new .48 ROM, but what excatly did they fix?
Are people sending and recieving all sms'es and calls now?
Are the buggy volume control fixed?
What about the big waiting time when launching the messenger app with people who have a long sms-history?
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I don't know what has been fixed and I can't comment on the problems you listed since I've never experienced them but I can tell you what works better for me:
1) the keyboard is much more accurate. I was reasonably happy with the keyboard on the last ROM but this one is much easier to use.
2) the proximity sensor now works every time I make or receive a call. This was a bit hit or miss for me with the last ROM and would fail more often than it worked.
3) Battery life seems much better. Again, I was pretty happy with this on the last ROM but it just seems to last a lot longer now. I had network issues today (nothing to do with the phone, it must have been a problem with 3 in London today because my 3G dongle was down as well) and was expecting my battery to die relatively quickly. However, despite this and the fact that I was playing with the phone more today (because of the new ROM) my battery is holding about 20% more than I would expect it to hold at this point in the day. I haven't bothered with the patch to turn off the data connection either so my phone should be doing more now.
I can't comment on much more. I experienced the new bug with the inbox and SenseUI but that was dealt with by locking the phone. I also had some trouble connecting to my Exchange server but that was dealt with with a couple of soft resets. Everything is generally going quite well.

kasperknop said:
I am about to download and install the new .48 ROM, but what excatly did they fix?
Are people sending and recieving all sms'es and calls now?
Are the buggy volume control fixed?
What about the big waiting time when launching the messenger app with people who have a long sms-history?
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I have installed the new 1.48 rom today.
and I don't think they fixed anything. I still got a red blob on my pictures. And I still wait up to 45 seconds for replying sms. When the sms-history is long.!!!

I've installed it today as well (dutch version). A pity that you 've to reinstall all apps. No prob for me, as I'm still try to explore the phone.
Anyway connecting, installing etc everything was flawless, even the link with Exchange.

hmm,.. well,.. no issues so far
I've flashed the .48 over my belgian HD2 yesterday using the goldcard approach, I've got to say that I've yet to see any real improvement or bugfixes,...
The lockscreen acted up for a while but then mended itself automagicly and has been a good boy since.
Opera seems more responsive but that could very well be just me fooling myself.
Same goes for the keyboard, I caught myself noting 'hey, this seems a bit more sturdy than before'. This can all be attributed to perception, though
It works and the itch to be up to date has been scratched.. all in all I'd recommend it.

where do i get this rom, offical site please

Is this an official ROM?
Where can this be downloaded? How do you flash it?

Get the ROM from links in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=592954
Just installed it and personally think the touch screen is more accurate

Eoinoc said:
Get the ROM from links in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=592954
Just installed it and personally think the touch screen is more accurate
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Think or know, is it night & day better mate?

Hi
Can anyone tell me if they have kept all the software that was on 1.43, for example, ms office.
If someone can tell us what they have removed or added, that would be great.

parv1 said:
Hi
Can anyone tell me if they have kept all the software that was on 1.43, for example, ms office.
If someone can tell us what they have removed or added, that would be great.
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AFAIK they haven't added or removed any applications.

sunking101 said:
Think or know, is it night & day better mate?
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I installed 1.48 last night and I think its night and day better than then old 1.43 rom.
Screen is less sensitive (which is good) because it makes the keyboard easier to use, less multiple key hits etc.. so you can actually type more accurately. I still get the odd moment where they keyboard appears to spaz out, but I think this is still down to accidentally breathing on the screen or looking at it in a funny way.. man that screen is so sensitive sometimes..
I also found that rotating and typing with both thumbs in landscape mode made for a very compelling typing experience because the keys are slightly larger and further apart which makes hitting multiple keys at the same time even harder to do.
Once you have used the device for a day or so (to build up its dictionary of words that you use alot) its becomes really very quick to rattle off very long texts.
Its still not quite perfect, but its a huge improvement over the previous rom.

HTC HD2 - Possibly the worst mobile phone i have ever had

Just as the title says......
I got this phone in December after hearing nothing but good reviews about it and HTC Sense looks really good. I have had Nokia phones ever since the Nokia 3210 but after some problems with my last 2 Nokia's, i thought i would leave them and move to HTC.
To start with i use my phone a lot for listening to music but the music player is riduculous. It keeps stopping during songs, and sometimes the phone restarts itself when this happens. Sometimes it takes a couple of minutes for the song to play after selecting it.
Secondly, the text messaging application is a complete joke. I can send a text message to say my wife and she will not receive the message for a good coupls of hours or even sometimes, the next day. I have spoken to my service provider and they tell me that the message is taking 5 SECONDS to get from my phone to the recipent. That's when the phone actually decides to send the message.
Thirdly, typing on the keyboard is riduculous. Random letters are activated without me even pressing those keys. I can press, say, 'k' and some random letter in the middle of the keyboard is activated. This make typing a text message so so frustrating and annoying.
Lastly, i keep loosing the signal, therefore i cannot make a phone call, send a text or even browse the web. The signal indicator at the top of the screen has little dots where it indicates that it is looking for a signal and my operator text dissappears.
Other than these problems the phone is ok but i have sent the device to HTC twice now and it has come back exactly the same. The first time they said that they re-connected some connector inside the phone and the second time, they said that they reflashed the device due to some error messages.
I can honestly say that i regret making the move to the HTC HD2 and i am dissappointed because it had such good reviews. What can i do...go back to Nokia??

hatchie said:
What can i do...go back to Nokia??
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Yes...if you want an even worse fone...

hatchie said:
Just as the title says......
I got this phone in December after hearing nothing but good reviews about it and HTC Sense looks really good. I have had Nokia phones ever since the Nokia 3210 but after some problems with my last 2 Nokia's, i thought i would leave them and move to HTC.
To start with i use my phone a lot for listening to music but the music player is riduculous. It keeps stopping during songs, and sometimes the phone restarts itself when this happens. Sometimes it takes a couple of minutes for the song to play after selecting it.
Secondly, the text messaging application is a complete joke. I can send a text message to say my wife and she will not receive the message for a good coupls of hours or even sometimes, the next day. I have spoken to my service provider and they tell me that the message is taking 5 SECONDS to get from my phone to the recipent. That's when the phone actually decides to send the message.
Thirdly, typing on the keyboard is riduculous. Random letters are activated without me even pressing those keys. I can press, say, 'k' and some random letter in the middle of the keyboard is activated. This make typing a text message so so frustrating and annoying.
Lastly, i keep loosing the signal, therefore i cannot make a phone call, send a text or even browse the web. The signal indicator at the top of the screen has little dots where it indicates that it is looking for a signal and my operator text dissappears.
Other than these problems the phone is ok but i have sent the device to HTC twice now and it has come back exactly the same. The first time they said that they re-connected some connector inside the phone and the second time, they said that they reflashed the device due to some error messages.
I can honestly say that i regret making the move to the HTC HD2 and i am dissappointed because it had such good reviews. What can i do...go back to Nokia??
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your device is totally defected replace it or update to the latest software version 1.66

Hi, Its high time you upgrade your ROM. Those were thing of the past. Visit your dealer ASAP for a ROM upgrade.
-Herojit

herojits said:
Hi, Its high time you upgrade your ROM. Those were thing of the past. Visit your dealer ASAP for a ROM upgrade.
-Herojit
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Hi Guys,
I have upgraded my phone to Rom 1.66 from the HTC website when it was released

you can try using a cooked ROM from this great forum and you will find that the great chefs here make better roms and most little annoyances you mention are ironed out.
using a cooked rom also makes you relize what a brilliant device the HD2 is compared to a Nokia!!!!!!

Quinny said:
you can try using a cooked ROM from this great forum and you will find that the great chefs here make better roms and most little annoyances you mention are ironed out.
using a cooked rom also makes you relize what a brilliant device the HD2 is compared to a Nokia!!!!!!
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right, why do you hspl your device anyways if you're using stock roms?

ive got the telstra version in australia and dont have any of those problems with messaging or music playback etc. as far as i am concerned, it is an excellent phone. i have not upgraded the roms or anything. it is exactly as it was from telstra. as far as the signal thing goes, that is probably due to your carrier. regarding the keyboard, turn on the xt9 predictive text thing on the keyboard. trust me when i say it works. i was having difficulty with the keyboard due to having a touch pro as my previous phone that had a physical keyboard. the xt9 takes care of this problem. it does take a little getting used to especially if you are like me and learnt to touch type, but i find it easy to use now. dont give up on it just yet, they are as good as they look.

Quinny said:
you can try using a cooked ROM from this great forum and you will find that the great chefs here make better roms and most little annoyances you mention are ironed out.
using a cooked rom also makes you relize what a brilliant device the HD2 is compared to a Nokia!!!!!!
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Ok, what is the best rom to use from this forum?

to hatchie - HTC HD2
hatchie said:
Just as the title says......
I got this phone in December after hearing nothing but good reviews about it and HTC Sense looks really good. I have had Nokia phones ever since the Nokia 3210 but after some problems with my last 2 Nokia's, i thought i would leave them and move to HTC.
To start with i use my phone a lot for listening to music but the music player is riduculous. It keeps stopping during songs, and sometimes the phone restarts itself when this happens. Sometimes it takes a couple of minutes for the song to play after selecting it.
Secondly, the text messaging application is a complete joke. I can send a text message to say my wife and she will not receive the message for a good coupls of hours or even sometimes, the next day. I have spoken to my service provider and they tell me that the message is taking 5 SECONDS to get from my phone to the recipent. That's when the phone actually decides to send the message.
Thirdly, typing on the keyboard is riduculous. Random letters are activated without me even pressing those keys. I can press, say, 'k' and some random letter in the middle of the keyboard is activated. This make typing a text message so so frustrating and annoying.
Lastly, i keep loosing the signal, therefore i cannot make a phone call, send a text or even browse the web. The signal indicator at the top of the screen has little dots where it indicates that it is looking for a signal and my operator text dissappears.
Other than these problems the phone is ok but i have sent the device to HTC twice now and it has come back exactly the same. The first time they said that they re-connected some connector inside the phone and the second time, they said that they reflashed the device due to some error messages.
I can honestly say that i regret making the move to the HTC HD2 and i am dissappointed because it had such good reviews. What can i do...go back to Nokia??
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dear friend
if i may suggest, you need to take a strong stand with the shop you bought this phone from or at least with HTC. Your handset is definitely defected in terms of hardware and any kind of ROM upgrade is not going to help you.
best of luck
o2-lover

Have to agree with O2 lover. Had my phone for about 5 weeks and was running stock ROM 1.43.206.4 for a few weeks before upgrading to a cooked ROM and I had none of those problems.
Take it back to the shop and insist on a replacement handset as there is something clearly wrong with yours.
I know 3 people all with HD2's running stock ROM's (earlier ones than the 1.66 version which you're running) and I've never heard of any of the problems you've encountered.
No amount of flashing cooked ROM's will solve your problems imo...

The HD2 indeed had all those problems which you mentioned. But most of them are fixed now.
If you want to try a Custom ROM I'd suggest Artemis. It seemed pretty stable to me.
Also install the Less Sensitivity patch for your Keyboard.

Yeah install HSPL and void your warranty as your phone wasn't working properly in the 1st place.
He clearly has a defective handset, great advice though guys lol

rom choice is just a personal preferance but i use dutty's from htc pedia. all the issues you mention are all found in this forum if you do a little digging around. and there are loads of info for you to find out.
the music part if i remember rightly is somthing with the memory card try format the sd card.
the messaging problem i had on stock rom also sent a text to my gf about 12 o'clock and she recieved it at 3 a few times but changing radio helped. that's with 3 networkin the uk.
as for the keyboard use XT9 as its so easy to use(just typed this whole message using my phone)
i really do not think its hardware related? i could be wrong.
moving from a nokia to a device like this is hard to figure out but in time it sill be easy.
Quinny

rgrover said:
Yeah install HSPL and void your warranty as your phone wasn't working properly in the 1st place.
He clearly has a defective handset, great advice though guys lol
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using HSPL won't void your warranty as it can easily be removed!!!!

I've experienced the music pausing on the 1.66 ROM although your pausing seems worse than mine (my phone has never restarted during music playback). Have you tried using another music player like Pocket Player? The reception problems and text message delays are possibly related and most likely caused by poor reception in your area. In my experience, the antenna in the HD2 is pretty good and I can often get good reception in areas where other people get none.

All answered by previous posters.
In your specific case I would suggest you need to be 'connected to people', rather than being 'quietly brilliant'.
Certainly this forum had all the answers to all your concerns apart from losing signal.
Generally where a device receives a multitude of rave reviews, it justifies these various reviewer opinions. The HD2 is no exception!
Since listening to music is your main ambition, any reason why you haven't considered the iPhone.
I have the ipod touch which is gathering dust, but I do miss not having a volume slider and perhaps lyrics!

Before the HD2 my Boss bought me the nokia N97...the worst Phone ever made by nokia:
ridiculous hardware problems, touchscreen with no cinetic scroll ( we talk about 600 € for the phone, man!!!).
Try to google around with this key words: "n97 gps" or "n97 camera"...
So don't say us, nokia is better
Nokia loses the touchscreen smartphone war, that's all.
Cheers

I've had my HD2 since release, way before HSPL and custom ROMs were available. I've never had any of the issues you have experienced, so a hardware problem with your handset could be likely.
However, I would at least have a bash at upgrading to a custom ROM first before returning your handset. If it does not improve matters you can flash back to a stock rom, which removes HSPL, so warranty will not be voided. You can then try for a replacement handset knowing in your mind there is definately an issue with the handset itself.
As well as the 'Artemis' ROM that was suggested, I would also recommend 'Topix' or 'Energy' ROM variants. But rather than listening to other people, have a good read in the "HD2 ROM Development" forum section for yourself. Finding a ROM you are happy with is very much about personal preference. It would be worth trying a few any way. But beware, flashing gets very addictive!

Do you want a official SMS Fix?

Hoi Pipeloi my fellow HD2 and other HTC owners
This is not just a poll its kind of a petition for the official SMS bug Fix
that HTC "wont" try to Fix...
The bug only shows up when you have 20+ smses of one or more contacts. Sense reloads these smses for no reason en slows down the device.
you can do a little trick for a faster load but that wil not help mutch : when you open contacts smses press send and there wil be a popup just press no and voila all smses are quickly reloaded...
Vote: Yes please HTC please...!
Vote: Pfff never mind... my next device will not be a HTC Phone...
Vote: I dont care...
If this Poll has over 1000 or more votes i wil send it to HTC
and lets see what thy gonna say then

Probably will do similar thread about HTC give everyone a free HD2 Device.
With the same result.

Raven78uk said:
Probably will do similar thread about HTC give everyone a free HD2 Device.
With the same result.
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Haha now that would be a sweat deal for us

i'm in

my sms works great, but i vote yes for those who have probs with it, cause i just cant imagine a life without sms >.<!
and i want an awsome windows mobile sms app, the standard winmo one gets boring and htc messaging suxx too :/

Just to clarify the only issue I have with SMS and writting in general is that damn ghosts typing where every button on the keypad randomly gets pressed. Even more annoying when you have swype!
Is this what you are referring to?

mine is ok, but I voted for those with issues

acky85 said:
Just to clarify the only issue I have with SMS and writting in general is that damn ghosts typing where every button on the keypad randomly gets pressed. Even more annoying when you have swype!
Is this what you are referring to?
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well i don't have that problem... you my try this for the gost typing
the fix we want is for when you gonna type a sms the prev smses are reloaded and therefor slowing down the reaction time of the keyboard..

Oh I see. I had that with my previous decide so I took it back and threatened to cancel the contract, the next one did the same thing so I gave them one last chance. Its now all ok.
I still join you in your pain though and voted.
Thanks for the link I'll check it out now

Yes indeed. I truly hope they are going to fix this SMS issue.

I voted yes and did call HTC about this problem and did mention to them that i am not the only one with this issue. They told me we don't care what message boards have to say lol
Well i hope they still do something about this

I'm in! This has got to be fixed FAST!

IannEefje said:
well i don't have that problem... you my try this for the gost typing
the fix we want is for when you gonna type a sms the prev smses are reloaded and therefor slowing down the reaction time of the keyboard..
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Yes, I voted for get this fix right now HTC or else I will turn to Iphone 4!!!!
Even though my sms working ok but b/c i only had only a few smses.
It will definately get worst for people with 100+ smses.
While i am at it, how can they f...king turn their back on fixing the led notification issue!!! Expect to see red flashes for missed smses etc but not working and is ignored!!!!

900 votes to go! Vote people

I would add more details to the first post, I am sure not everyone knows which SMS issue you mean!

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I would add more details to the first post, I am sure not everyone knows which SMS issue you mean!
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Ok thx -- its done

I'm not sure if this will help, but when I flashed the official O2 Rom 1.72.206.3 a few days ago, the sms delay problem seemed to have dissapeared. I tried two contacts that have threads of around 100 sms messages with no delay at all.

I'm using the new O2 ROM (1.72.206.3) aside from it being absolute CRAP the SMS issue still persists. Among other things, which are much more annoying, like the constantly skipping music (even with hot-fix), but nothing more annoying than my phone locking up and belching out its load ass ring-tone while vibrating it's self to pieces if I don't pick up fast enough, which obviously requires me to remove the battery, something I have to do at least once a day.
I'm still using a stock ROM because I'm debating my next move, which is likely to be that O2 are going to get this phone shoved up their ass.
I'm tired of this device, I'm also tired of watching my old iPhone 3G (which my wife now has) working flawlessly, like it did for me. I'm also still puzzled to why I made the decision to get a HTC HD2 when the iPhone 3GS would have solved all my gripes with the original iPhone 3G (being slightly slow).
Rant over!
Phil

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I'm using the new O2 ROM (1.72.206.3) aside from it being absolute CRAP the SMS issue still persists. Among other things, which are much more annoying, like the constantly skipping music (even with hot-fix), but nothing more annoying than my phone locking up and belching out its load ass ring-tone while vibrating it's self to pieces if I don't pick up fast enough, which obviously requires me to remove the battery, something I have to do at least once a day.
I'm still using a stock ROM because I'm debating my next move, which is likely to be that O2 are going to get this phone shoved up their ass.
I'm tired of this device, I'm also tired of watching my old iPhone 3G (which my wife now has) working flawlessly, like it did for me. I'm also still puzzled to why I made the decision to get a HTC HD2 when the iPhone 3GS would have solved all my gripes with the original iPhone 3G (being slightly slow).
Rant over!
Phil
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Perhaps you've got a lemon Phil and you need to bring it back to O2. I'm using the same device with the same rom and the same hotfixes. I have zero lag on my sms messages no matter how long the thread and my music plays fine. I think your other problems may be down to settings and tweaks which is something WM users need to get used to (although most, like myself, enjoy the tweaking very much). My wife is happy with her iphone 3GS too, but I think the HD2 is far superior for my needs. I'm not trying to start an HD2/iphone debate, there are already too many on the forums, I'm just saying that given a propper device with the propper tweaks and mods, you've got one envyable phone there.

You guys who don't have this problem, what ROM and radio do you have?

Answering a Call

Just a quick question for you guys. When I receive a phone call (full signal strength) and slide the slider accross to answer the phone there is a long pause of silence before the call actually connects. Has anyone else run into this situation?
Nexus One running stock Froyo (At&t)

yes I have this issue: I answer and cannot get an answer on the other end but I can hear them saying "hello". After a few seconds we connect and they say they never heard me say anything even though I was saying hello back.
I have two Nexus Ones: one answers calls perfectly and has great sound quality, while the other has this issue you describe, along with low call volume.
I think in my case it may be a hardware issue and I may need to send it in to be looked at. Both running on ATT although the good device is the tmobile version and the problem device is ATT 3G version.

Old MuckenMire said:
yes I have this issue: I answer and cannot get an answer on the other end but I can hear them saying "hello". After a few seconds we connect and they say they never heard me say anything even though I was saying hello back.
I have two Nexus Ones: one answers calls perfectly and has great sound quality, while the other has this issue you describe, along with low call volume.
I think in my case it may be a hardware issue and I may need to send it in to be looked at. Both running on ATT although the good device is the tmobile version and the problem device is ATT 3G version.
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You think it is a hardware issue? I thought that it was like that across all N1s?
There was a thread here 1-2 weeks ago about the issue and pretty much EVERYBODY had this problem.
I can't find the thread anymore but it was about the delay between answering a call and the mic becoming active ... which takes 2-5 seconds.
I just noticed the other day that the delay seems to be less if I immediately put the call on speaker.

Never encountered that issue. The other side hears me immediately as I answer. I guess this is not "across all N1s", unless someone would think my N1 is special in some way (which it isn't, and so are all the other 7 N1s of my friends at work which also happen not to have this problem - and the call quality is great on at least 3 that I checked personally).

Instantly connects on my phone as well, so it's not on all devices at least. I have one of the first batches of T-Mobile N1's btw.

What carrier are you on?

this happens to me too.its so annoying. im on att

Can't find the thread but it was pretty long.

nexusdue said:
You think it is a hardware issue? I thought that it was like that across all N1s?
There was a thread here 1-2 weeks ago about the issue and pretty much EVERYBODY had this problem.
I can't find the thread anymore but it was about the delay between answering a call and the mic becoming active ... which takes 2-5 seconds.
I just noticed the other day that the delay seems to be less if I immediately put the call on speaker.
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I'm not so sure anymore. I decided since my only choice was to send it in for repair, I might as well one click root and install CM6 and see what happens. So far, I have not had the issue. It's only been three days but that's the longest this device has ever gone without having the "no connect" issue. Also, my low call volume and speaker phone volume issues are now resolved. I now find myself turning the volume down rather than up. I'll update this thread with final verdict on whether this fixes my issue.

This sounds like an att problem not a nrsux one problem

I notice this problem as well. If I wait until the call timer appears on screen before I start to talk the other party doesn't seem to notice.

I'm on T MO and never had this issue. Try the one click root and flash a different ROM. If it doesn't work send it to HTC. I recently sent mine back on a Monday and it was back that Friday.
Sent from my Nexus One

Well my issue has been resolved by switching to CM6. It's been a week now and the issue has not occurred even one time. This was an issue that used to happen to me EVERY DAY, so I am very happy that in my case it turned out to be a software issue.
When I was running 2.1 I hoped 2.2 would fix it and when it didn't I thought for sure it must be hardware. It's so nice to KNOW I can answer the phone if it rings now. Sometimes I would get an important call and I was afraid to answer the damn phone!
Thank you Mr. Cyanogen, whoever you are.

I get this issue once in a while. I think its a software issue. Over time something gets hung up somewhere.

I had a thread like this as well..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=691399
For me it still happens randomly, stock 2.1 rom, stock 2.2 rom, Enom's ROM, etc...
Although I have a theory that I haven't tried to prove/disprove yet.. It seems like several times when this has happened I was holding my finger over the second mic on the back, which is naturually where my finger seems to lay when I hold the phone. Anyone else considered this? I'm thinking maybe it's throwing off the microphone trying to do noise cancellation?

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I had a thread like this as well..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=691399
For me it still happens randomly, stock 2.1 rom, stock 2.2 rom, Enom's ROM, etc...
Although I have a theory that I haven't tried to prove/disprove yet.. It seems like several times when this has happened I was holding my finger over the second mic on the back, which is naturually where my finger seems to lay when I hold the phone. Anyone else considered this? I'm thinking maybe it's throwing off the microphone trying to do noise cancellation?
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Definitely not the finger covering the mic. Just tried it with/without and same result.
There was another thread that was at least 3-4 pages of people complaining about it.

Sounds more like a network issue than a hardware issue, IMO

This issue has come up recently for me and it's really annoying. I'm not sure what triggered this problem...
Is anyone else experiencing this issue? Any ideas on how to resolve?
I've got the Rogers/AT&T N1.

Gingerbread issues

Anyone experiencing any? Sometimes if i dont restart my phone for 2days my phone gets weird.
1. when someone calls screen stays black till i slide it when i think the sliders at.
2. same with messaging black screen till i just randomly press on the screen and it opens.
Also same when i do my slidepattern lock i have to guess where the dots are.
Then phone gets sluggish to go back home screen
Anyone else experiencing this?
I am not rooted. Also i installed the update manually.

very weird, does this mean you have the call wonk bug on stock GB rom? maybe some others can reply and confirm. but cm7 users have a similar call bug that isnt known to be present on the stock ROM.

by call wonk bug do you mean where someone calls and the screen is just black, and if you slightly move the slider to answer the phone the screen comes off of black?

yes, very random things happen after a few days on stock gb - i have to reboot and/or kill the launcher every so often. find gb battery life sucks too.

Damnit i might have to reset and stick to 2.2 till this fixes its annoying. You say this is also present in cayenmod(sp?) 7.0?

sotorious said:
by call wonk bug do you mean where someone calls and the screen is just black, and if you slightly move the slider to answer the phone the screen comes off of black?
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well not exactly, but similar. the "call wonk" bug has been plaguing AOSP versions of gingerbread for months now, and nobody can fix it. until this thread, the "wonk" problem is only present on AOSP version, NOT the OTA version of gingerbread from google. some people dont experience it, like me, and some do. it varies as to what exactly happens with the wonk, so i cant give a good description. but i'm not sure your problem is necessarily the same issue. seems similar, but possibly something different.

I've been having the same issues lately. It's very similar to the Gingerbread keyboard bug where the popups stop showing when you press the keys or hold a key to get the menu of other characters. It's actually still there, and you can try to guess where the character you want is and hope to get it... but it doesn't display. This can be fixed by killing the Android Keyboard process.
I'm seeing similar things in other places on my phone. Today, after not having rebooting for quite a while, the unlock slider wouldn't slide. Swiping my finger across where it should slide still unlocked the phone, but nothing animated to show this.
I went to change my News & Weather widget refresh interval the other day and the screen went dim (like it does in behind a select list popup), but nothing showed... however, the popup was there... and by guessing the location on the screen I was able to hit the refresh interval I wanted (after several attempts).
I've noticed the same in a few other locations that I can't remember right off. Basically, something is supposed to show on the screen, but doesn't... yet the phone still reacts properly as if it were there. Just like the keyboard bug.
It could be some kind of screen refresh bug... in my case (completely stock... updated manually to 2.3) it's definitely not any kind of call wonk as experienced in AOSP builds (unless this is the root cause of those wonks, but I somehow doubt that).
Thankfully, I haven't had any battery life issues with Gingerbread. Maybe even a little better battery life (or maybe just placebo effect).

^^^ ditto that entire post.
At first noticed it with the incoming call screen, and then the keyboard.
Easy to fix, but is a huge annoyance. Often can't see who is calling and end up answering blindly which is BS.
I'm now starting to see it in apps all over the place. Tower Raiders 2, Market, Messenger, and probably more I'm forgetting. Having to reset every couple days is becoming almost a necessary inconvenience.
Battery has been perfect, contrary to many. I did see a noticeable drop in Quadrant score switching to GB, but overall feel of performance has probably been better. Swype for some reason stopped working, similar to what happens after you update, but nothing has updated since? Regardless I'm sure an reinstall will fix.
Nothing but stock for me btw.

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very weird, does this mean you have the call wonk bug on stock GB rom? maybe some others can reply and confirm. but cm7 users have a similar call bug that isnt known to be present on the stock ROM.
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I'm afraid the call "wonk" bug is also on the stock Google ROM for "some" Nexus One users. See here:-
http:***//code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=15297
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Personally I've never experienced it. There are lots of theories about this "wonk" and its cause.
Cyanogen has been battling to find an answer, even though he cannot replicate it himself.
One theory is that it comes about by not fully wiping the handset and SDcard before installing 2.3 for the first time and then not re-installing anything from a previous backup but rather doing a piecemeal restore on both phone and SDcard as if the handset were new.
I have to admit that, being an ex Nokia symbian user, this was the approach I adopted as not doing so on the symbian platform caused no end of problems.

[email protected] said:
I'm afraid the call "wonk" bug is also on the stock Google ROM for "some" Nexus One users. See here:-
http:***//code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=15297
(remove "***" as I cannot post links yet)
Personally I've never experienced it. There are lots of theories about this "wonk" and its cause.
Cyanogen has been battling to find an answer, even though he cannot replicate it himself.
One theory is that it comes about by not fully wiping the handset and SDcard before installing 2.3 for the first time and then not re-installing anything from a previous backup but rather doing a piecemeal restore on both phone and SDcard as if the handset were new.
I have to admit that, being an ex Nokia symbian user, this was the approach I adopted as not doing so on the symbian platform caused no end of problems.
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Probably the reason that thread hasn't been acknowledged is its a cluster of people with this 'issue', but claiming to be on OTA 2.3.3 and AOSP-based CM7..
My understanding of what is defined as the 'wonk' (which I experienced when my N1 was on CM7) is
15-20 seconds where the caller can't hear me, usually resulting in a hang up after about 10 seconds
call comes in but no slider to answer
That thread is describing a 2 second delay after the call connects, which I have NOT experienced on OTA GRI40 but would be manageable if I did. The 'wonk' as described above makes a cell phone unusable and I personally haven't seen a report of the 'wonk' on OTA GRI40. More importantly for myself, I have not experienced it in over a month of use..

Yea well the g2x is coming out next week or so and i mean it is on 2.2 which i guess i am fine with and if or when gingerbread comes to that hopefully all the wonks turn into woos!

I've had the keyboard issues randomly, and this week I had the issue where the screen is black when a call comes in. As someone before me mentioned, this is not the CM7 "wonk" and an issue with 2.3.3.

[email protected] said:
I'm afraid the call "wonk" bug is also on the stock Google ROM for "some" Nexus One users. See here:-
http:***//code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=15297
(remove "***" as I cannot post links yet)
Personally I've never experienced it. There are lots of theories about this "wonk" and its cause.
Cyanogen has been battling to find an answer, even though he cannot replicate it himself.
One theory is that it comes about by not fully wiping the handset and SDcard before installing 2.3 for the first time and then not re-installing anything from a previous backup but rather doing a piecemeal restore on both phone and SDcard as if the handset were new.
I have to admit that, being an ex Nokia symbian user, this was the approach I adopted as not doing so on the symbian platform caused no end of problems.
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the 2 second delay is not the "call wonk" people are experiencing on AOSP versions. the wonk is where the whole phone screen goes black for 30 seconds, and anything that uses the mic crashes or doesnt work. this 2 second delay when answering is an issue, but a different one, and commong to all 2.3.

If you're having the call delay problem, especially on a device that is not the Nexus One, please star the issue here:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=16230
This is a known bug with Gingerbread, that Google recently declined, saying it was "device specific" (to the Nexus One).
However this problem is also being reportedly widely on the HTC Desire, as well as Samsung Galaxy devices. I have posted a new issue above and not attributed it to a specific device.
Please comment and star this issue. And please specificy especially if your device is not the Nexus One, so that Google gets this message that this is a widespread Gingerbread bug, which has nothing to do with the device.
Thanks.

The Google employee following up on the call delay issue, in the Google support forums, is asking people to fill out the following form, to gather information about how people are affected and on what devices.
http://goo.gl/10HJ1

I updated to GB right away, and I am just now annoyed enough to come post in the N1 threads.
Issue 1:When a call comes through the screen goes black. I will press the power button and the screen pops back up, displaying the caller info.
Issue 2: Sometimes (not all the time) when I close an app, any app, the home screen is blank with just the wallpaper picture showing. Again I press the power button to "sleep" the phone, press the power button again, slide to open and all of my short cuts and widgets are back to normal.
Issue 3: I also have the delay when answering. I have learned to play this off by bringing the phone up to my ear a little slower.
Issue 4: The trackball is extremely slow (unusable pretty much) in certain apps like Dolphin Browser HD, Yahoo! Mail, among others. This is mainly when I want to select text and use the Froyo trackball, click, drag, click method as opposed to the GB dragging of the little orange boxes...which I find the GB method more difficult anyway.
I will edit my post as more things come to mind.
My N1 is not rooted, btw.