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safari in windows mobile released

Yes, now you can enjoy Safari in Windows Mobile, the same browser that iPhone has, here side by side comparison (here: desktop version of CNN website in HTC Touch Diamond and in Apple iPhone 3G):
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
In reality the truth is a bit different: Torch Mobile company has released a beta version of their Iris for Windows Mobile that uses Webkit rendering engine - an open source project of Apple - the very same that Safari for iPhone is using. You can download it in beta version here:
http://www.torchmobile.com/download
More information about Iris:
Iris Browser™ for Windows Mobile® 5 & 6 is now available for free download! Simply register with us by providing your name and contact information and download the CAB to your PC or directly to your phone. Then follow along as Torch Mobile makes regular improvements to the browser, adding new features, making it faster, and generally improving the user experience.
Please remember that this is early preview software
Our impressions: it is rendering web pages exactly the same as Safari for iPhone but is slower, what may change after final version will be relesaed.

Only WM6?
(forget my post!)

i like it works great on my sprint mogul, now i can use this in addition to skyfire thanks for the notice

Any further Notes? I Just hardresetted and reinstalled my Vario. Don't want a buggy app to destroy this harmony
Actually i'm using the Opera Beta... Does it use the "double tap to overview" mode like opera does? This feature i'm missing the most in other apps.
Better? Worse?

Video
Found a user-video:
http://home.datacomm.ch/mandm/iris browser review.wmv

Has Potential
Found it very sluggish on my Kaiser. Some very obvious things missing:
1. No direct input for a URL. Why go via their start page (money?)
2. No automatic page overview (a la Opera Mini/Safari) when you first go to a website.
I will keep an eye on it as I think it could develop into a very good browser. Let's face it, Internet Explorer is hardly competition these days!

Aw... just tried it now
Feels very similar to opera, with some more (nice?) effects... doubletap is also enabled....
Plus: Easy to use, you can activate a virtual mouse cursor and scroll via D-Pad, built in traffic counter
Minus: but in the whole it feels a little slower and takes more RAM. Scrolling isn't that smooth.
Just my opinion after 5 minutes testing.

People! People! Those misleading headlines from msmobiles.com don't have to follow us to XDA-Developers! Safari?! I expect to see something smarter in the development forum. Just say a WebKit-based browser or something of that sort.
I'm sorry, but I was annoyed by the repeated inappropriate titles by msmobiles and now they're here.

yep the title is wrong... should be corrected...
i knew this browser already and i have to say it didn´t become better yet... it´s still so slow and buggy... i will wait until it´s really final

Works fine even on WM6 standard, just tried it in my HTC Vox, however it's slow... Maybe it runs better on 400 Mhz & faster devices?
The visual history is cool though, reminds me of the browser that was in my Nokia N73, it looked better in N73 though.
Also the mouse cursor is very handy.
An annoying thing is that it uses the same cache as IE, the browser installs fine on the storage card but it very quickly eats up a lot of the phone storage while browsing...
There should be an option to turn off all the transition effects, it's nice eye candy but I guess disabling it could improve performance a bit.

This is one slow browser! Slower than PIE. Has alot of catching up to be like safari or Opera Mobile.

sorry but i still can't find a browser which stands up to NetFront 3.5 considering the speed, the comfortness and the fact that it supports loads of languages.

nir36 said:
sorry but i still can't find a browser which stands up to NetFront 3.5 considering the speed, the comfortness and the fact that it supports loads of languages.
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Can netfront download anything?

I second NetFront 3.5, it's been a topnotch browser for me, and I've tried em all. Opera is good but web pages doesn't look as good as in NetFront. The ONLY thing I wish NetFront had, and correct me if I just missed something, is the initial Overview when entering a page, like OperaMini for instance. So you'd see the whole page instead of Zoom as default.
//Nik

bartybet said:
Can netfront download anything?
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Yes, you can download files and it's actually very comfortable. you click on a zip file for instance and it just asks you where to save it.. main memory or storage card and in which dir.
nikjensie said:
I second NetFront 3.5, it's been a topnotch browser for me, and I've tried em all. Opera is good but web pages doesn't look as good as in NetFront. The ONLY thing I wish NetFront had, and correct me if I just missed something, is the initial Overview when entering a page, like OperaMini for instance. So you'd see the whole page instead of Zoom as default.
//Nik
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There are many viewing and zooming options in this browser.. i didn't check if you can get a full page view as default... but you CAN get a fullpage view by double clicking the screen so you can choose which part of the screen you want to zoom in on.
wonderful app in my eyes.
this is it, by the way:
http://rapidshare.com/files/117817843/NFB35EN_WMPRO_R007CV.CAB
enjoy.

I'm in the NetFront 3.5 camp as well. Nothing I have tried has been as nice to use as NetFront. I've tried all of the new iterations of Opera, and none of them are as fast and intuitive as NF.
I'm even using it now to make this reply.
The momenum scrolling is great, and the only real issue I have with it is the ''out of memory'' errors that I get when loading large graphics-heavy pages.

Thanks for the download link for NF. I'll try it out later.

TSK TSK.. I was browsing the forum till i got to see this headline.
IMMEDIATELY I thought to myself wow sounds JUST LIKE something out of msmobiles...
Well, im not surprised to find out this actually did come from them.
We don't need this sensationalist CRAP. I avoid msmobiles at ALL COSTS, Their stories are SO unprofessionally written they are LAUGHABLE. Seriously, its SO BAD it makes my eyes hurt.
Im serious. Go to their website all you will see is "ZOMG MICROSOFTZ IZ NEGLECTING WINDOWZ MOBILE SILVERLIGHT TILT SENSORZZZZZ ZOMG SYMBIAN IPHONE"
My God, mods please lock this thread. =(

wow. angrier fella than i am... that's rare.

Netfront guys; How do I get it to be seen a full fledged browser and not a mobile browser? Sites constantly force their mobile versions on (Google, iGoogle, CNN, etc.) when I really want to see their full versions. I didn't see a setting to alter how the browser is seen by web sites it visits. Thanks.

BBC Iplayer app for Diamond

Hello guys,
1. does anyone know of a way to play BBC iplayer on the diamond or
2. Can some on write an app (like the you tube app) for the bbc iplayer, some thing like the Nokia N96 will have.
i would have thought as the diamond supports Flash and Java, the iplayer should work, howerver this is not the case.
the have given us flash lite so we dont miss out on all the wonderfull banner ads around the web, but no video support
This would be great for the WM 5/6 user. as the iphone is able to play iplayer and N96 will be able.
I feel left out.

I was just wondering the same thing, an iplayer app would be awesome

The BBC are releasing a new iPlayer client for mobile devices on 1st October, primarily for the Nokia N96 which is a Symbian phone:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7603606.stm
It's possible they might release something for other device as well.
I had an idea to get iPlayer working though, haven't really looked into yet. As the iPlayer works on the iPhone, it might be possible to get it to work on the Diamond by doing the following:
- Install latest version of Opera (build 1938)
- Install Flash Lite 3.1
- Change the User Agent String in Opera to that of the iPhone
Don't ask me how to do the last part, I'm not even sure if it is possible but you could start by checking out the Opera.ini file
Good luck!
P.S. It looks like during a beta earlier this year the iPlayer was available on HTC phones, except videos didn't work. Here are screenshots of what it should like on the Diamond!
http://www.mobiletechaddicts.com/2008/07/06/bbc-iplayer-20-beta/

I've had no joy doing those two first steps but would be willing to try the third if someone could point me in the right direction.

Anyone with skyfire try it?

Well, I made a bit of progress!
I now have the iPhone version of iPlayer loading in Opera after I modified the opera.ini file and changed the user agent string as follows:
Custom User-Agent=Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU like Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/420.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0 Mobile/4A102
Here is how it looks:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
However, I haven't figured out how to get the videos to play. I downloaded the dvha79 build of Flash Lite 3.1 from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=423860
Without changing the user agent string, the standard iPlayer page loads and videos appear to start buffering but never play. After changing the user agent string to the iPhone, as you can see from the second picture it complains about a missing plug-in. I have done a bit of experimentation and appears it is trying to load an MP4 stream which Flash Lite should be able to handle, I have tried tweaking the opera.ini plug-ins section (even tried to get Windows Media Player to play the stream) as well as the registry classes root and played about with CLSIDs to get it to play with the Flash Lite plugin but no joy.
I'll give up for now and wait and see what happens on October 1st.

wired69 said:
Well, I made a bit of progress!
I now have the iPhone version of iPlayer loading in Opera after I modified the opera.ini file and changed the user agent string as follows:
Custom User-Agent=Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU like Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/420.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0 Mobile/4A102
Without changing the user agent string, the standard iPlayer page loads and videos appear to start buffering but never play. After changing the user agent string to the iPhone, as you can see from the second picture it complains about a missing plug-in. I have done a bit of experimentation and appears it is trying to load an MP4 stream which Flash Lite should be able to handle, I have tried tweaking the opera.ini plug-ins section (even tried to get Windows Media Player to play the stream) as well as the registry classes root and played about with CLSIDs to get it to play with the Flash Lite plugin but no joy.
I'll give up for now and wait and see what happens on October 1st.
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I'm working on this too - if I get anywhere that hasnt already been covered then I'll let you know - I have simular results to this but I didnt change the .ini file - I'm not convinced that makes a huge difference? I have the latest Opera installed and the latest 3.2 flash.....
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Skyfire BETA2
Hello guys
If anyone has a beta version of skyfire can you please share with us, i'm sure there are many people here would love to get their hands on this little program.
Many many many thanks
EDIT:
Sorry posted in wrong place

you go on google on your diamond and type iplayer and it should work. i've used it on mine

try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=475641

Internet Explorer Mobile 6 - Preview

Today at Tech•Ed EMEA we announced the availability of emulators and documentation for Internet Explorer Mobile 6, which is the next generation browser for Windows Mobile. Available on new Windows Mobile devices soon, this browser will provide a high-quality browsing experience on your device that more closely resembles a desktop browsing experience. For all you developers, the Internet Explorer Mobile 6 Emulator is available for download today
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Some of the cool features available with Internet Explorer Mobile 6 are:
Improved fidelity (support for full fidelity desktop rendering)
Layout fixes to accommodate a mobile screen (text wrap)
Enhanced Script and AJAX support (Jscript v5.7 from Internet Explorer 8)
Improved multimedia experience (Adobe Flash Lite 3.1 for Adobe Flash content)
Deeper integration with search
Enhanced cursor navigation model
Touch and gesture support – pan support
Multiple zoom levels
Easy switching between mobile / desktop versions of sites by specifying UA strings
Info and download from: http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2008/11/11/internet-explorer-mobile-6.aspx
Mirror Downloads:
Windows Mobile 6.1.4 Professional Images (USA).msi 320.8 MB
Windows Mobile 6.1.4 Standard Images (USA).msi 218.3 MB
Edit - 13/11/08
A Microsoft employee seems to be answering some questions. See later in the thread HERE.
Edit - 18/11/08
REVIEW: INTERNET EXPLORER Mobile 6 for Windows Mobile - VGA screenshots!
Curtsey of kdskamal

Internet Explorer Mobile 6, which is the next generation browser for Windows Mobile.
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Yeah Right !!!, thats the last Explorer i'll use in my ppc

lol, it actually looks promising. I have Opera on my Diamond and it crashes a lot especially when rotating. And it causes Manila to crash too when you close Opera.
So maybe this can be a good thing.
MAYBE being the keyword there.

I've read some reviews about the new IE6 for WM6 and i consider Opera offers a better usability and modern user interface, but may be MS bring us finally a decent Browser

Some of the cool features available with Internet Explorer Mobile 6 are:
Improved multimedia experience (Adobe Flash Lite 3.1 for Adobe Flash content)
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Does this mean that PIE will finally be able to play Flash content (i.e. Youtube)? If I can use this to get rid of Skyfire, I will be a happy man!

I'll wait and see. Microsoft promised alot over the years, but didn't actually deliver most of the time.
Hope they prove me wrong though. Until then, i'll keep my Opera 9.

Any chance of riping this out of the emulator and making a cab for all us? It's something that is beyond my skill or I would give it a shot.

asbestos said:
Any chance of riping this out of the emulator and making a cab for all us? It's something that is beyond my skill or I would give it a shot.
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working on that. dont know yet if it has to be cooked in. also, there are no 320x240 emulator images available. that probably wont matter.
edit: ok there is 320x240 available. its 5.2.20757 AKU 1.4.0. nothing new here.

downloaded and tried it. it was slow as hell on the emulator.

lol. microsoft say everything they do is the next generation of things.
that doesn't mean it's a better generation

how does this look?

conflipper said:
how does this look?
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ohhh gr8!!!!!!!
finally flash on PIE

seems to be very nice so far. that is on my CDMA diamond.

Did I miss something? How is this different from the PIE6 that's in the DFT rom I've been using since Septemeber?

What gets me is that the WM team are saying it won't be available as a download or upgrade because "the rich media experiences that IE Mobile 6 enables require more powerful, advanced devices".
Excuse me? Why then can others like OPera offer the same (or even better) on existing AND older devices?
It's a joke!

because they have so bad programmers who can´t manage that on slower cpus
Its like xp and vista, if you want vista to run you need to double or quadruble your RAM only because of some glassy windows. They are so incompetent. it is lousy programming: if its to slow, buy another faster cpu !

Is there a cab available for download yet then?
Surur

bluemetalaxe said:
because they have so bad programmers who can´t manage that on slower cpus
Its like xp and vista, if you want vista to run you need to double or quadruble your RAM only because of some glassy windows. They are so incompetent. it is lousy programming: if its to slow, buy another faster cpu !
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I guess bluemetal has a point in here although that is not the whole story. You see, the only way for these clowns to make money on mobile software is by selling it to device manufacturers, so if they are going to continue making software for mobile devices they have to make absolutely certain that the public thinks that there will be no chance in hell of getting "prettier" software on their older devices. By doing so, they push the sale of newer devices, and indirectly their new OS' to the public. To make things even more convincing, they release these ridiculous statements about how the devices are not powerful enough to handle it. I mean, why do you think that they have not offered upgrades to older phones (WM2003 to WM5 or WM5 to WM6)? It certainly is possible to do that (says a guy who has had a Blue Angel since early 2005 running an OS version that most new phones still don't have). Bluemetal's statement needs a small correction, it isn't that their programmers are bad (at least not all of them), but the code is written like that on purpose. Can the code be cleaned up for it to run better, faster, and in older devices? Hell Yes!!! Do they want to? F&^k No!!!!! (it is bad for business...

I can't seem to get the emulator to connect to the Internet. I've gone into File->Configure and selected my network card on the Networks tab, and the emulator appears to connect fine (icon in taskbar shows a connection, and then prompts me to choose "connects to Work or The Internet," as expected). But when I go into IE6, I can't get any pages to load. Just a "no DNS found" error each time. Is there some other setting I need to tweak somewhere?

conflipper said:
seems to be very nice so far. that is on my CDMA diamond.
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Do you mean you have installed this on an actual phone instead of using the image and emulator?

[APP] Nzb Mobile - Usenet Client with SSL support

Easy to use Usenet Client for Windows mobile. Download directly from Usenet to your mobile device.
Download Nzb Mobile
Update: Version 2.0
Download from Usenet using 256-bit SSL encryption, protected your username/password and make your traffic over open internet connections private. Configure multiple Usenet servers. Use your free ISP Usenet server (using Wi-Fi) at home and your pay Usenet server on the go (HSDPA, 3G). Choose a different server in different countries when you travel.
License model has changed since version 1.4. There is now a trial version (no enddate with download size limitations) and a full product version.
Update: Version 1.4
This new version has better performance and extended list features. It also fixes some connection issues and is more finger friendly.
Screenshots:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Features:
Nzb file support
SSL Support
Multi server configuration
File Explorer integration to handle nzb files
Extensive logging
Finger-friendly UI
Detailed post info with file extension display
Multiple connections for faster downloading
Decoding: yEnc, UUE support
Cyclic Redundancy Check
Supports QVGA, VGA and WVGA
Requirements:
Windows Mobile 5, 6, 6.1 (with touchscreen)
.NET Framework 2.0
Internet access
Usenet account
For more info check the website http://www.nzbmobile.com

I've been looking for one of these! I'll definitely be trying this out.

looks really awesome.
One clarification: does this repair the files too?
This is really going to get my service provider jump to the roof.

Works great, First used v1.3 on my diamond, this was not usable (crashes)
but 1.4 works like a charm.
btw also tested on a Omnia (WQVGA and this also works)

I got the following error
Error:System.Net.Sockets.Socket
I am trying to use astraweb.
Thanks
Never mind it was because it was a secure server
normal one works fine

Can we use SSL? With nzb mobile or any other tunnelling software like stunnel on win? Because my news provider use only snntp.

foxvengeor said:
Can we use SSL? With nzb mobile or any other tunnelling software like stunnel on win? Because my news provider use only snntp.
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Not yet. But stay tuned!

OMG this is awesome, just knew this today, hopefully intergrade some search from binsearch.

That will be all

NICE man this is lovely i didn't even try it out yet just lookin at the pics i think i'm goin to be in love nice man thanks
this really makes me wish i had 3g on my phone now

town229 said:
OMG this is awesome, just knew this today, hopefully intergrade some search from binsearch.
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yea after using it that would be great this would be great for gettin music on the go definately don't wanna download movies using this unless your using wifi it doesn't work to bad using a edge connection
but binsearch intergration would be great
thanks again for a great app will you be increasing the amount of connections i know with giganews you can do at least 20

wait, it doesn't work with NetFramework 3.5?

Keland44 said:
yea after using it that would be great this would be great for gettin music on the go definately don't wanna download movies using this unless your using wifi it doesn't work to bad using a edge connection
but binsearch intergration would be great
thanks again for a great app will you be increasing the amount of connections i know with giganews you can do at least 20
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Well it is still a mobile phone, not a desktop pc. Increasing the number of simultaneous connections, will increase the number of processor threads. There are limitions to the number of threads that can be run on windows mobile. But who knows, the new chipsets are getting faster and new versions of windows mobile are coming out. For now 4 connections are enough to get the max speed for most mobile connections out there (3G, HSDPA).

sid0101 said:
wait, it doesn't work with NetFramework 3.5?
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It should work just fine with .net framework 3.5.

4 connections ... 6 must be better or 8 max... For wifi connections around the city and slows NNTP servers.

I have been looking for this type of application for a couple of years now. Works great on my pro, and I love it. Integration with a search engine would be downright perfection. Either way thank you kindly for the app.

sweet! thanks mate
I'm also using SABNZBD+ on my NAS at home - it would be great if I could use my mobile phone to initiate the download.....
I know such an app is available for the IPhone but not yet found one for winmo.

GoMobile said:
Well it is still a mobile phone, not a desktop pc. Increasing the number of simultaneous connections, will increase the number of processor threads. There are limitions to the number of threads that can be run on windows mobile. But who knows, the new chipsets are getting faster and new versions of windows mobile are coming out. For now 4 connections are enough to get the max speed for most mobile connections out there (3G, HSDPA).
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ahh i get it now it makes sense i mean for me to be using edge it's still pretty fast just grab a couple of songs
but binsearch intergation would be really hot

Awesome stuff! I got PAR2 code lying around here somewhere... maybe I can get it to recompile for WM.

Great application, I'd like to see an "auto import" folder for the next version

Opera Mini 5 beta is available

www.opera.com/next

All in all it's just a new interface and copy and paste functionality...
I'm a bit disappointed..
I can see Sh*t on my Xperia 800*480 3' display... Everything is so tiny that is unusable...
They should put some setting to make zoomed interface for bigger resolution (like Xperia)
Also old problem using large font size is causing overlapping of letters... and all looks mixed up .. . is not solved...
So almost nothing has been changed of all problem that I had on my Xperia... and all WVGA resolution Mobile phones...
One more thing: Automatic changing (when opening keyboard) from portrait to landscape does not work

Opera Mini 5 beta is now available
This is the day you've all been waiting for! Opera Mini 5 beta is hereby ready for download.
As you know, we've been working on this version for quite a while. When you see the end result, we're sure you'll think the waiting was worthwhile. To download, go to http://m.opera.com/next, but please note that phone support varies from previous versions of Opera Mini.
Some key features:
* New, sleek design
* Tabbed browsing
* Password manager
* Inline text editing
* Copy-and-paste function
* We have made a special, native version for BlackBerry which includes opening links and copy-and-paste functions
Known issues:
* No Android version yet, but we're working on it :smile:
* All Palm devices will have to stick with 4.2, as they aren't capable of running 5
* Downloads, feeds and Opera Link are all disabled in the Beta while we polish the implementation
* Devices with little memory may have problems, in general, and some may not be able to run Opera Mini 5 at all.
* Devices with small resolution (less than QVGA, 240 в 320) are not recommended to try the beta
For more info, please read the press release
As always, we welcome your feedback in our forum, and please report any bugs in our bug report wizard. Thanks!
Enjoy Opera Mini 5 beta! :yes:
Best regards,
The Opera Mini team

Lol, hello!
Well the view switch problem is annoying......

awesome i love it already but what i miss is Opera Link inside

And still no version of Opera Mobile 9.7 beta. And 9.7 has the turbo mode already. I hope that they will release the final 9.7 version soon.

loved it now. im gonna say goodbye to opera mini 4.2.... i miss you forever
vietdoan20062006

vietdoan20062006 said:
loved it now. im gonna say goodbye to opera mini 4.2.... i miss you forever
vietdoan20062006
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Some users have reported that new OM5 beta is battery eater.. it consumes up to 3 times more resources than old OM4.2...
I think that I'm going to stick to good old OM4.2 until they resolve this big energy consumption problem...

VelikiMeshtar said:
Some users have reported that new OM5 beta is battery eater.. it consumes up to 3 times more resources than old OM4.2...
I think that I'm going to stick to good old OM4.2 until they resolve this big energy consumption problem...
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Well, basically it can do much more than 4.2, like tabbed browsing.
Rendering is perfect. And it's REALLY fast.
It has bugs of course but another miracle has been done.

I find Opera mini 5 extremely fast at loading pages, easily the quickest mobile browser ive used.

VelikiMeshtar said:
Some users have reported that new OM5 beta is battery eater.. it consumes up to 3 times more resources than old OM4.2...
I think that I'm going to stick to good old OM4.2 until they resolve this big energy consumption problem...
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Uuuh, that would not be nice. I really do love the new 5 beta. Before I couldn't believe that there would be a big improvement possible but it really is. Great browser!

I really like this new browser, and I havent got to use all its features yet.
Some problems with drop down menus on a web page, but maybe this could also be an issue with the website coding itself, ie not browser friendly.

Anyone know why when installed on my phone it has the java logo instead of the Opera one?
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}

Use Mauro Venturini shortcut creator for changing the icon. You can copy icon from Opera mobile.
Actually for me this beta works nice. I would not use it, since it does not have opera link yet, so I can't use all my bookmarks .. and if some page was rendered bad in old opera mini, it is the same here, as it is more problem of Opera proxy servers (it is same with Opera mobile turbo mode).
Anyway all I can say is I like it.

zannyboy said:
Anyone know why when installed on my phone it has the java logo instead of the Opera one?
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because its a java applet not a windows app. Same as if you installed java need for speed or something

VelikiMeshtar said:
Opera Mini 5 beta is now available ...
.... To download, go to http://m.opera.com/next, but please note that phone support varies from previous versions of Opera Mini.
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If I follow the online instructions, my X1a then opens a Java app and indicates that it is installing a "midlet". After 30 sec it shows an error(?)
If I go to the Opera website via my desktop's browser to see if I can download an installer, I see a 'JAD' and 'JAR' download, but I don't know which is appropriate(?)
Please advise ...
TIA

rarewolf said:
Please advise ...
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Anyone?