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Full screen terminal services client - I DID IT!

WOOHOO! Works on both WM2003 (tested on emulator) and WM5 (tested on real life MDA PRO). Also works in portrait or landscape mode! 8)
I hope to finish the app in about 3 days, then I will release it for free along with full source code in VB.NET and C# (probably under the GNU GPL).
Until then, you can enjoy these lovely screenshots, full VGA screen terminal services is REAL nice, beats VNC any day! :lol: :lol:
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Way cool.
Kim

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Well done, sl9. I think you're going to be a popular person here!
sl9 said:
Until then, you can enjoy these lovely screenshots, full VGA screen terminal services is REAL nice, beats VNC any day! :lol: :lol:
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You sure? Could I ask why?
Until Terminal Services allows me to see my full (3-display) 4800x1200 desktop on my Universal, VNC will be the only solution for me. At the moment, when I log in using Terminal Services my desktop is resized to 640x480 which is not only annoying but rather pointless. :roll: (And yes, I've tried checking and unchecking the 'resize desktop' box on my Universal with no success. :?

SiliconS, what on earth are you compensating for with a desktop that big! I'm so jealous! I have to admit, I way prefer VNC.
sl9 - did you inevstigate if there's any way to force the client into stretch mode?
V

Well played.
Looking forward to the release.

vijay555 said:
SiliconS, what on earth are you compensating for with a desktop that big! I'm so jealous! I have to admit, I way prefer VNC.
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lol My wife would surely say "nothing" but I'm not going to ask her, just in case...
There's no substitute for desktop real estate when I'm coding a website. Laying all the windows (Photoshop, Homesite, Firefox, IE, Acrobat etc) out in one layer is so much more convenient for me.
It's not an expensive set up either. A standard dual-head AGP graphics card (VGA + DVI) and a £30 PCI (16MB!!!) graphics card from Maplin, with three 19" Belinea CRT monitors that are 8 years old. Each running at 1600x1200 @ 75 Hz.
I highly recommend it. 8) One day I'll replace the monitors with TFTs and then we'll be flying, baby!

SiliconS: I agree, I really need a bigger setup. I've got a 19inch TFT but you really need multimonitor when coding or designing.
Have you tried the citrix client? I got a few requests about that, and then everyone vanished...
V

vijay555 said:
Have you tried the citrix client?
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No - was experimenting with VNC but didn't take it far. It's nice to know I can do it but it's not something I need on a regular basis.

Likewise; I suppose it's the kind of thing you need or you don't.
Remote control (eg remote winamp) turned out to be a better solution.
V

Hmm. Sorry sl9, I seem to have hijacked this thread. Apologies.

vijay555 said:
sl9 - did you inevstigate if there's any way to force the client into stretch mode?
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Depends what you mean by "stretch mode"? You mean like VNC does, keep same resolution of desktop and have scrollbars? I don't think that's possible with the MS TSC client, although I'm going to experiment with Nyditot Virtual Display next to see if that can trick TSC into giving a larger display area

Sorry but...what is service terminal for?

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You mean like VNC does, keep same resolution of desktop and have scrollbars?
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If you did mean this, then yeah just use the .NET VNC viewer. My needs are different to yours, I actually want the desktop resized to 640x480 full screen and a thin client (which VNC is not), leaving only TSC or Citrix. Each to their own

sl9: Re Stretching the display, if you follow this thread it seemed to be a fairly popular request, and my opinion from playing with the MSTS registry is that the client seems hardcoded to 640x480.
After we got the Universal working in VGA it seemed there was little need left for it though...
V

err yea i need to know as well.....whats the benenfit of a tsc to a vnc? i've only used vnc before./.........

I'm wondering if you're going to allow the user to choose which resolution they connect to the server at... I'd find that INCREDIBLY useful - maybe even more so than having just full screen mode.

That's what I'm saying NinjaDonkey, after I did fullscreen Terminal Services the question was whether we could increase resolution.
If you read that thread I queried some registry settings, and if they can be mirrored across from the desktop version (the one you get if you run mstsc.exe on your pc).
But it seems that colour depth and resolution are all fixed in the PocketPC client, so we're stuck with 640x480. It's ideal on the Universal though!
V

afhstingray said:
err yea i need to know as well.....whats the benenfit of a tsc to a vnc? i've only used vnc before./.........
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TSC is a proper thin client, this means if you log into a PC with TSC, a new session is created and you can use that PC at the same time as a local user without interfering with each other. You cannot do that with VNC, as it's just a screen scraper.
vijay555 said:
my opinion from playing with the MSTS registry is that the client seems hardcoded to 640x480.
After we got the Universal working in VGA it seemed there was little need left for it though...
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If you tick the box that says "limit size of desktop to fit this screen" in TSC, it actually re-sizes itself a bit smaller than 640x480 (something like 640x428), to "fit" the screen. It may be possible to trick it using SystemParametersInfo into thinking that the screen is actually 1280x1024 (for example), but that's a big maybe.
As for real VGA mode, some of us (me included) prefer things the way they are, but would still like some apps like terminal services to use all of the screen.
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I'm wondering if you're going to allow the user to choose which resolution they connect to the server at... I'd find that INCREDIBLY useful - maybe even more so than having just full screen mode.
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This may be possible, see answer above and watch this space.

OK that means I can run a desktop win session on my JJ?

Internet Explorer Mobile 6 - Preview

Today at Tech•Ed EMEA we announced the availability of emulators and documentation for Internet Explorer Mobile 6, which is the next generation browser for Windows Mobile. Available on new Windows Mobile devices soon, this browser will provide a high-quality browsing experience on your device that more closely resembles a desktop browsing experience. For all you developers, the Internet Explorer Mobile 6 Emulator is available for download today
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"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
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"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Some of the cool features available with Internet Explorer Mobile 6 are:
Improved fidelity (support for full fidelity desktop rendering)
Layout fixes to accommodate a mobile screen (text wrap)
Enhanced Script and AJAX support (Jscript v5.7 from Internet Explorer 8)
Improved multimedia experience (Adobe Flash Lite 3.1 for Adobe Flash content)
Deeper integration with search
Enhanced cursor navigation model
Touch and gesture support – pan support
Multiple zoom levels
Easy switching between mobile / desktop versions of sites by specifying UA strings
Info and download from: http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2008/11/11/internet-explorer-mobile-6.aspx
Mirror Downloads:
Windows Mobile 6.1.4 Professional Images (USA).msi 320.8 MB
Windows Mobile 6.1.4 Standard Images (USA).msi 218.3 MB
Edit - 13/11/08
A Microsoft employee seems to be answering some questions. See later in the thread HERE.
Edit - 18/11/08
REVIEW: INTERNET EXPLORER Mobile 6 for Windows Mobile - VGA screenshots!
Curtsey of kdskamal

Internet Explorer Mobile 6, which is the next generation browser for Windows Mobile.
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Yeah Right !!!, thats the last Explorer i'll use in my ppc

lol, it actually looks promising. I have Opera on my Diamond and it crashes a lot especially when rotating. And it causes Manila to crash too when you close Opera.
So maybe this can be a good thing.
MAYBE being the keyword there.

I've read some reviews about the new IE6 for WM6 and i consider Opera offers a better usability and modern user interface, but may be MS bring us finally a decent Browser

Some of the cool features available with Internet Explorer Mobile 6 are:
Improved multimedia experience (Adobe Flash Lite 3.1 for Adobe Flash content)
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Does this mean that PIE will finally be able to play Flash content (i.e. Youtube)? If I can use this to get rid of Skyfire, I will be a happy man!

I'll wait and see. Microsoft promised alot over the years, but didn't actually deliver most of the time.
Hope they prove me wrong though. Until then, i'll keep my Opera 9.

Any chance of riping this out of the emulator and making a cab for all us? It's something that is beyond my skill or I would give it a shot.

asbestos said:
Any chance of riping this out of the emulator and making a cab for all us? It's something that is beyond my skill or I would give it a shot.
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working on that. dont know yet if it has to be cooked in. also, there are no 320x240 emulator images available. that probably wont matter.
edit: ok there is 320x240 available. its 5.2.20757 AKU 1.4.0. nothing new here.

downloaded and tried it. it was slow as hell on the emulator.

lol. microsoft say everything they do is the next generation of things.
that doesn't mean it's a better generation

how does this look?

conflipper said:
how does this look?
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ohhh gr8!!!!!!!
finally flash on PIE

seems to be very nice so far. that is on my CDMA diamond.

Did I miss something? How is this different from the PIE6 that's in the DFT rom I've been using since Septemeber?

What gets me is that the WM team are saying it won't be available as a download or upgrade because "the rich media experiences that IE Mobile 6 enables require more powerful, advanced devices".
Excuse me? Why then can others like OPera offer the same (or even better) on existing AND older devices?
It's a joke!

because they have so bad programmers who can´t manage that on slower cpus
Its like xp and vista, if you want vista to run you need to double or quadruble your RAM only because of some glassy windows. They are so incompetent. it is lousy programming: if its to slow, buy another faster cpu !

Is there a cab available for download yet then?
Surur

bluemetalaxe said:
because they have so bad programmers who can´t manage that on slower cpus
Its like xp and vista, if you want vista to run you need to double or quadruble your RAM only because of some glassy windows. They are so incompetent. it is lousy programming: if its to slow, buy another faster cpu !
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I guess bluemetal has a point in here although that is not the whole story. You see, the only way for these clowns to make money on mobile software is by selling it to device manufacturers, so if they are going to continue making software for mobile devices they have to make absolutely certain that the public thinks that there will be no chance in hell of getting "prettier" software on their older devices. By doing so, they push the sale of newer devices, and indirectly their new OS' to the public. To make things even more convincing, they release these ridiculous statements about how the devices are not powerful enough to handle it. I mean, why do you think that they have not offered upgrades to older phones (WM2003 to WM5 or WM5 to WM6)? It certainly is possible to do that (says a guy who has had a Blue Angel since early 2005 running an OS version that most new phones still don't have). Bluemetal's statement needs a small correction, it isn't that their programmers are bad (at least not all of them), but the code is written like that on purpose. Can the code be cleaned up for it to run better, faster, and in older devices? Hell Yes!!! Do they want to? F&^k No!!!!! (it is bad for business...

I can't seem to get the emulator to connect to the Internet. I've gone into File->Configure and selected my network card on the Networks tab, and the emulator appears to connect fine (icon in taskbar shows a connection, and then prompts me to choose "connects to Work or The Internet," as expected). But when I go into IE6, I can't get any pages to load. Just a "no DNS found" error each time. Is there some other setting I need to tweak somewhere?

conflipper said:
seems to be very nice so far. that is on my CDMA diamond.
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Do you mean you have installed this on an actual phone instead of using the image and emulator?

Opera Mini 4.2 beta

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"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
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"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
New in Opera Mini 4.2 beta
Skins
Personalize Opera Mini by choosing a new colorful skin. We have reintroduced the popular skinning feature from Opera Mini 3.
Performance
Opera Mini 4.2 can use our newly established server park in the US. This means significantly faster page downloads for our users in the Americas and Asia-Pacific region. Users in the rest of the world will also experience faster page downloads since we’ve reduced the load on our other servers.
Video
We are working to make video content available on more phones through Opera Mini. If you have a new Sony Ericsson or Nokia phone, the chance is high that you can take Opera Mini for a spin on m.youtube.com.
Sync your Notes
The handy Notes functionality from the Opera Desktop Web browser just got more portable through Opera Link. All of your notes are available in Opera Mini directly from the Bookmarks menu.
http://www.operamini.com/beta/

kancrutt said:
New in Opera Mini 4.2 beta
Skins
Personalize Opera Mini by choosing a new colorful skin. We have reintroduced the popular skinning feature from Opera Mini 3.
Performance
Opera Mini 4.2 can use our newly established server park in the US. This means significantly faster page downloads for our users in the Americas and Asia-Pacific region. Users in the rest of the world will also experience faster page downloads since we’ve reduced the load on our other servers.
Video
We are working to make video content available on more phones through Opera Mini. If you have a new Sony Ericsson or Nokia phone, the chance is high that you can take Opera Mini for a spin on m.youtube.com.
Sync your Notes
The handy Notes functionality from the Opera Desktop Web browser just got more portable through Opera Link. All of your notes are available in Opera Mini directly from the Bookmarks menu.
http://www.operamini.com/beta/
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Sweet!
Thanks for the heads up.

THE question is... does it support VGA screens with normal font size !?
Ciao
Fred

signed version
how to get it signed!? I hate these popup questions everytime i click on smtg
thanks

edit your selector.utf file and change the domain for the mini 4.2 suite to be tckmax. add 3 spaces after the word tckmax to keep the file the same length.
4.2 is a yawner for me. mobile youtube support. big whoop. skins? yawn.
notes? your kidding right. speed up? I'm sure that if they have us based servers now, your old version 4.1 is using them.

Alright!!
Let's give it a try ~~~~

4.2 definitely feels much faster to me. i only use wifi for browsing, but it's definitely loading pages much faster than before. glad they finally have a us server too. 4.1 still went through the NO servers (at least on my phone it did), and it was extremely annoying when sites that automatically set your location thought i was in norway.
to get the signed version, just click on the link (on your phone) to select a different version. all the signed ones are right there.

Thanks! Installed & works for me using Esmertec JavaVM...using black skin; very fast.

mtiberio said:
edit your selector.utf file and change the domain for the mini 4.2 suite to be tckmax. add 3 spaces after the word tckmax to keep the file the same length.
4.2 is a yawner for me. mobile youtube support. big whoop. skins? yawn.
notes? your kidding right. speed up? I'm sure that if they have us based servers now, your old version 4.1 is using them.
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wait for a few days, Opera Mini will be simple as u want
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2902442&posted=1#post2902442

mtiberio said:
edit your selector.utf file and change the domain for the mini 4.2 suite to be tckmax. add 3 spaces after the word tckmax to keep the file the same length.
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No need to do dirty hacks on java security, just download the correct (signed version), from the alternate links on mini.opera.com\beta

It is faster for me and I love the skins.
I prefer green skin right now.

Hi, does someone tested it on vga screen ( diamond for example ) ? What about the fonts size ?
Ciao
Fred

Here is the link to launch it directly and the icon dll
Just put the dll in /windows/appdb and the lnk where you want

The Solutor said:
No need to do dirty hacks on java security, just download the correct (signed version), from the alternate links on mini.opera.com\beta
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Except for me on my device I still get that issue even when I get the one off the opera site.

Thanks! I'll check it on my HD ^_^

Say us if it's working on it

sev7en said:
Thanks! I'll check it on my HD ^_^
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Yep ! Waiting for the results ! Are the fonts bigger than the 4.1 version.
Ciao
Fred

Where could i download more skins?
Thanks

Opera Mini 5 beta is available

www.opera.com/next

All in all it's just a new interface and copy and paste functionality...
I'm a bit disappointed..
I can see Sh*t on my Xperia 800*480 3' display... Everything is so tiny that is unusable...
They should put some setting to make zoomed interface for bigger resolution (like Xperia)
Also old problem using large font size is causing overlapping of letters... and all looks mixed up .. . is not solved...
So almost nothing has been changed of all problem that I had on my Xperia... and all WVGA resolution Mobile phones...
One more thing: Automatic changing (when opening keyboard) from portrait to landscape does not work

Opera Mini 5 beta is now available
This is the day you've all been waiting for! Opera Mini 5 beta is hereby ready for download.
As you know, we've been working on this version for quite a while. When you see the end result, we're sure you'll think the waiting was worthwhile. To download, go to http://m.opera.com/next, but please note that phone support varies from previous versions of Opera Mini.
Some key features:
* New, sleek design
* Tabbed browsing
* Password manager
* Inline text editing
* Copy-and-paste function
* We have made a special, native version for BlackBerry which includes opening links and copy-and-paste functions
Known issues:
* No Android version yet, but we're working on it :smile:
* All Palm devices will have to stick with 4.2, as they aren't capable of running 5
* Downloads, feeds and Opera Link are all disabled in the Beta while we polish the implementation
* Devices with little memory may have problems, in general, and some may not be able to run Opera Mini 5 at all.
* Devices with small resolution (less than QVGA, 240 в 320) are not recommended to try the beta
For more info, please read the press release
As always, we welcome your feedback in our forum, and please report any bugs in our bug report wizard. Thanks!
Enjoy Opera Mini 5 beta! :yes:
Best regards,
The Opera Mini team

Lol, hello!
Well the view switch problem is annoying......

awesome i love it already but what i miss is Opera Link inside

And still no version of Opera Mobile 9.7 beta. And 9.7 has the turbo mode already. I hope that they will release the final 9.7 version soon.

loved it now. im gonna say goodbye to opera mini 4.2.... i miss you forever
vietdoan20062006

vietdoan20062006 said:
loved it now. im gonna say goodbye to opera mini 4.2.... i miss you forever
vietdoan20062006
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Some users have reported that new OM5 beta is battery eater.. it consumes up to 3 times more resources than old OM4.2...
I think that I'm going to stick to good old OM4.2 until they resolve this big energy consumption problem...

VelikiMeshtar said:
Some users have reported that new OM5 beta is battery eater.. it consumes up to 3 times more resources than old OM4.2...
I think that I'm going to stick to good old OM4.2 until they resolve this big energy consumption problem...
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Well, basically it can do much more than 4.2, like tabbed browsing.
Rendering is perfect. And it's REALLY fast.
It has bugs of course but another miracle has been done.

I find Opera mini 5 extremely fast at loading pages, easily the quickest mobile browser ive used.

VelikiMeshtar said:
Some users have reported that new OM5 beta is battery eater.. it consumes up to 3 times more resources than old OM4.2...
I think that I'm going to stick to good old OM4.2 until they resolve this big energy consumption problem...
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Uuuh, that would not be nice. I really do love the new 5 beta. Before I couldn't believe that there would be a big improvement possible but it really is. Great browser!

I really like this new browser, and I havent got to use all its features yet.
Some problems with drop down menus on a web page, but maybe this could also be an issue with the website coding itself, ie not browser friendly.

Anyone know why when installed on my phone it has the java logo instead of the Opera one?
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"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}

Use Mauro Venturini shortcut creator for changing the icon. You can copy icon from Opera mobile.
Actually for me this beta works nice. I would not use it, since it does not have opera link yet, so I can't use all my bookmarks .. and if some page was rendered bad in old opera mini, it is the same here, as it is more problem of Opera proxy servers (it is same with Opera mobile turbo mode).
Anyway all I can say is I like it.

zannyboy said:
Anyone know why when installed on my phone it has the java logo instead of the Opera one?
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because its a java applet not a windows app. Same as if you installed java need for speed or something

VelikiMeshtar said:
Opera Mini 5 beta is now available ...
.... To download, go to http://m.opera.com/next, but please note that phone support varies from previous versions of Opera Mini.
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If I follow the online instructions, my X1a then opens a Java app and indicates that it is installing a "midlet". After 30 sec it shows an error(?)
If I go to the Opera website via my desktop's browser to see if I can download an installer, I see a 'JAD' and 'JAR' download, but I don't know which is appropriate(?)
Please advise ...
TIA

rarewolf said:
Please advise ...
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Anyone?

[Discussion] WM applications missing from Android

Most of people here has moved from windows mobile 6.5 to Android after this great revolution.
Did you have any programs in windows mobile that you are missing and wish to be on Android or you don't even know that they exists? maybe those are preventing you from completely switching to Android.
The purpose of this discussion is to help each other finding replacement tools and applications for some useful applications in windows mobile.
My applications that i missed from windows mobile:
* LMT : multitouch launcher - I've viewed a previous thread telling that it is not possible to create such an application, but in my opinion it could be done using the Accessibility services-
* g-trigger : Perform actions based on gestures with the phone. found some replacements as shake2* (shake to play next, shake to mute but those uses only one gesture with very limited actions) , tasker ( very hard to configure and record gestures)
* Garmin : I know there are many GPS applications but there is no one that can work offline, create custom map and provide 3D navigation. Since no GPS application is offering a map for my country. I usually use openstreetmap and offline map downloader to create vector navigation map for Garmin.
* And finally the reverse tethering (Internet Pass Through) just like what activesync was doing for non Desire HD/Z based ROMS (can't use them since they lack some Arabic support and are much slower than cyanogen and stock builds). I was able to reverse USB tethering to browse the web through my PC internet but many applications on Android won't run if there is no wifi or data connection is available -thinking of providing a virtual wireless interface but this needs more time -.
Do you know any replacements? or do you miss other applications from windows mobile?

Have you tried OsmAnd? Free satnav app which uses openstreetmap and consistently gets good ratings.

Forced to use wimo only by tomtom navigator or update build.

Use CoPiliot for offline GPS navigation - I do and it works great.

StephanV said:
Have you tried OsmAnd? Free satnav app which uses openstreetmap and consistently gets good ratings.
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Yes, I have tried it, but it didn't provide 3D navigation - I mean something like this
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"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
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dharvey4651 said:
Use CoPiliot for offline GPS navigation - I do and it works great.
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Unfortunately there is no maps for Syria

hhhawasly said:
Yes, I have tried it, but it didn't provide 3D navigation - I mean something like this
**PIC WAS HERE**
Unfortunately there is no maps for Syria
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Ahhh see living in the United States, CoPilot works flawlessly for me but it's definitely not my favorite. I really prefer iGO8 from WM but I have yet to find a similar GPS software for Android that is available in the United States.

maybe Navigon would be the best for me, but i'd really be glad to give it a test before spending 60€...

dharvey4651 said:
Ahhh see living in the United States, CoPilot works flawlessly for me but it's definitely not my favorite. I really prefer iGO8 from WM but I have yet to find a similar GPS software for Android that is available in the United States.
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Actually this image is from the internet
I live in Syria. IGO, AERO, CoPilot and Navigon do not provide a map or navigation for my country!
The good thing with Garmin is that it can give me the features of those applications with a custom map taken from a map source.

I only use WM for TomTom now (and not even that... I live in London and do not drive when in the city, so no need).
However I have yet to find an e-book reader as useful as AlReader2, although CoolReader is getting close. All of Android readers are either limited on file-type, have specific storage locations, or look ugly/have no night-mode when reading.
And I'm glad VPlayer has come along, as I was otherwise missing TMPCP or whatever that video player was called, and I didn't want to pay for RockPlayer.

im missing MyMobiler.. SOOO damn much!

As stupid as it may sound - Experiment 13! I loved that game.
+1 for mymobiler too

LoeWn said:
im missing MyMobiler.. SOOO damn much!
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Wow, I didn't know about this app! It looks very cool.
I think it should be any replacement for this application. You can see this for example, but it lacks file transfer.

kinsago said:
As stupid as it may sound - Experiment 13! I loved that game.
+1 for mymobiler too
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same for me for MyMobiler. not sure of any good Android alternative.

medical programs...........uptodate, sanford, and others

nghockcheng said:
same for me for MyMobiler. not sure of any good Android alternative.
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Doesn't Droid Explorer have a window for viewing the contents of your Android screen? (Screencast plugin)

Missing:
1. the calculator of Wm6.5 and the new WM7, they are great.
2. the way WM6.5 (don't know what WM7 does) groups contacts, the 2 versions of Android I tried do not work well for me.
3. don't like HTC Sync it is too unstable and has too many requirements (I had to setup an XP disk just to load my contacts and it was painful), prefer Active Sync it works on any OS
4. battery drain for WM is about 5% overnight with the 2 Android builds it was close to 60%, simply unacceptable.
5. flipping only 1h2m on the darn clock every time you look at it, Android starts from 12:00 and goes to 23:59 that drives me crazy
6. versions of Android that are out seem to be too unstable for my taste and the last one completely crashed my HD2 and had to reinstall radio and rom and had a hard time doing it. Now I am back to stock radio/rom of WM6.5 until everything on an Android build is stable.
On the other hand
1. locking out WAP was easier on Android
2. miss the digital clocks of Android
3. setup was easier on Android
4. the message balloons were easier to see