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Internet Explorer Mobile 6 - Preview

Today at Tech•Ed EMEA we announced the availability of emulators and documentation for Internet Explorer Mobile 6, which is the next generation browser for Windows Mobile. Available on new Windows Mobile devices soon, this browser will provide a high-quality browsing experience on your device that more closely resembles a desktop browsing experience. For all you developers, the Internet Explorer Mobile 6 Emulator is available for download today
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Some of the cool features available with Internet Explorer Mobile 6 are:
Improved fidelity (support for full fidelity desktop rendering)
Layout fixes to accommodate a mobile screen (text wrap)
Enhanced Script and AJAX support (Jscript v5.7 from Internet Explorer 8)
Improved multimedia experience (Adobe Flash Lite 3.1 for Adobe Flash content)
Deeper integration with search
Enhanced cursor navigation model
Touch and gesture support – pan support
Multiple zoom levels
Easy switching between mobile / desktop versions of sites by specifying UA strings
Info and download from: http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2008/11/11/internet-explorer-mobile-6.aspx
Mirror Downloads:
Windows Mobile 6.1.4 Professional Images (USA).msi 320.8 MB
Windows Mobile 6.1.4 Standard Images (USA).msi 218.3 MB
Edit - 13/11/08
A Microsoft employee seems to be answering some questions. See later in the thread HERE.
Edit - 18/11/08
REVIEW: INTERNET EXPLORER Mobile 6 for Windows Mobile - VGA screenshots!
Curtsey of kdskamal

Internet Explorer Mobile 6, which is the next generation browser for Windows Mobile.
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Yeah Right !!!, thats the last Explorer i'll use in my ppc

lol, it actually looks promising. I have Opera on my Diamond and it crashes a lot especially when rotating. And it causes Manila to crash too when you close Opera.
So maybe this can be a good thing.
MAYBE being the keyword there.

I've read some reviews about the new IE6 for WM6 and i consider Opera offers a better usability and modern user interface, but may be MS bring us finally a decent Browser

Some of the cool features available with Internet Explorer Mobile 6 are:
Improved multimedia experience (Adobe Flash Lite 3.1 for Adobe Flash content)
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Does this mean that PIE will finally be able to play Flash content (i.e. Youtube)? If I can use this to get rid of Skyfire, I will be a happy man!

I'll wait and see. Microsoft promised alot over the years, but didn't actually deliver most of the time.
Hope they prove me wrong though. Until then, i'll keep my Opera 9.

Any chance of riping this out of the emulator and making a cab for all us? It's something that is beyond my skill or I would give it a shot.

asbestos said:
Any chance of riping this out of the emulator and making a cab for all us? It's something that is beyond my skill or I would give it a shot.
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working on that. dont know yet if it has to be cooked in. also, there are no 320x240 emulator images available. that probably wont matter.
edit: ok there is 320x240 available. its 5.2.20757 AKU 1.4.0. nothing new here.

downloaded and tried it. it was slow as hell on the emulator.

lol. microsoft say everything they do is the next generation of things.
that doesn't mean it's a better generation

how does this look?

conflipper said:
how does this look?
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ohhh gr8!!!!!!!
finally flash on PIE

seems to be very nice so far. that is on my CDMA diamond.

Did I miss something? How is this different from the PIE6 that's in the DFT rom I've been using since Septemeber?

What gets me is that the WM team are saying it won't be available as a download or upgrade because "the rich media experiences that IE Mobile 6 enables require more powerful, advanced devices".
Excuse me? Why then can others like OPera offer the same (or even better) on existing AND older devices?
It's a joke!

because they have so bad programmers who can´t manage that on slower cpus
Its like xp and vista, if you want vista to run you need to double or quadruble your RAM only because of some glassy windows. They are so incompetent. it is lousy programming: if its to slow, buy another faster cpu !

Is there a cab available for download yet then?
Surur

bluemetalaxe said:
because they have so bad programmers who can´t manage that on slower cpus
Its like xp and vista, if you want vista to run you need to double or quadruble your RAM only because of some glassy windows. They are so incompetent. it is lousy programming: if its to slow, buy another faster cpu !
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I guess bluemetal has a point in here although that is not the whole story. You see, the only way for these clowns to make money on mobile software is by selling it to device manufacturers, so if they are going to continue making software for mobile devices they have to make absolutely certain that the public thinks that there will be no chance in hell of getting "prettier" software on their older devices. By doing so, they push the sale of newer devices, and indirectly their new OS' to the public. To make things even more convincing, they release these ridiculous statements about how the devices are not powerful enough to handle it. I mean, why do you think that they have not offered upgrades to older phones (WM2003 to WM5 or WM5 to WM6)? It certainly is possible to do that (says a guy who has had a Blue Angel since early 2005 running an OS version that most new phones still don't have). Bluemetal's statement needs a small correction, it isn't that their programmers are bad (at least not all of them), but the code is written like that on purpose. Can the code be cleaned up for it to run better, faster, and in older devices? Hell Yes!!! Do they want to? F&^k No!!!!! (it is bad for business...

I can't seem to get the emulator to connect to the Internet. I've gone into File->Configure and selected my network card on the Networks tab, and the emulator appears to connect fine (icon in taskbar shows a connection, and then prompts me to choose "connects to Work or The Internet," as expected). But when I go into IE6, I can't get any pages to load. Just a "no DNS found" error each time. Is there some other setting I need to tweak somewhere?

conflipper said:
seems to be very nice so far. that is on my CDMA diamond.
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Do you mean you have installed this on an actual phone instead of using the image and emulator?

[APP] Nzb Mobile - Usenet Client with SSL support

Easy to use Usenet Client for Windows mobile. Download directly from Usenet to your mobile device.
Download Nzb Mobile
Update: Version 2.0
Download from Usenet using 256-bit SSL encryption, protected your username/password and make your traffic over open internet connections private. Configure multiple Usenet servers. Use your free ISP Usenet server (using Wi-Fi) at home and your pay Usenet server on the go (HSDPA, 3G). Choose a different server in different countries when you travel.
License model has changed since version 1.4. There is now a trial version (no enddate with download size limitations) and a full product version.
Update: Version 1.4
This new version has better performance and extended list features. It also fixes some connection issues and is more finger friendly.
Screenshots:
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Decoding: yEnc, UUE support
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Supports QVGA, VGA and WVGA
Requirements:
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Usenet account
For more info check the website http://www.nzbmobile.com

I've been looking for one of these! I'll definitely be trying this out.

looks really awesome.
One clarification: does this repair the files too?
This is really going to get my service provider jump to the roof.

Works great, First used v1.3 on my diamond, this was not usable (crashes)
but 1.4 works like a charm.
btw also tested on a Omnia (WQVGA and this also works)

I got the following error
Error:System.Net.Sockets.Socket
I am trying to use astraweb.
Thanks
Never mind it was because it was a secure server
normal one works fine

Can we use SSL? With nzb mobile or any other tunnelling software like stunnel on win? Because my news provider use only snntp.

foxvengeor said:
Can we use SSL? With nzb mobile or any other tunnelling software like stunnel on win? Because my news provider use only snntp.
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Not yet. But stay tuned!

OMG this is awesome, just knew this today, hopefully intergrade some search from binsearch.

That will be all

NICE man this is lovely i didn't even try it out yet just lookin at the pics i think i'm goin to be in love nice man thanks
this really makes me wish i had 3g on my phone now

town229 said:
OMG this is awesome, just knew this today, hopefully intergrade some search from binsearch.
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yea after using it that would be great this would be great for gettin music on the go definately don't wanna download movies using this unless your using wifi it doesn't work to bad using a edge connection
but binsearch intergration would be great
thanks again for a great app will you be increasing the amount of connections i know with giganews you can do at least 20

wait, it doesn't work with NetFramework 3.5?

Keland44 said:
yea after using it that would be great this would be great for gettin music on the go definately don't wanna download movies using this unless your using wifi it doesn't work to bad using a edge connection
but binsearch intergration would be great
thanks again for a great app will you be increasing the amount of connections i know with giganews you can do at least 20
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Well it is still a mobile phone, not a desktop pc. Increasing the number of simultaneous connections, will increase the number of processor threads. There are limitions to the number of threads that can be run on windows mobile. But who knows, the new chipsets are getting faster and new versions of windows mobile are coming out. For now 4 connections are enough to get the max speed for most mobile connections out there (3G, HSDPA).

sid0101 said:
wait, it doesn't work with NetFramework 3.5?
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It should work just fine with .net framework 3.5.

4 connections ... 6 must be better or 8 max... For wifi connections around the city and slows NNTP servers.

I have been looking for this type of application for a couple of years now. Works great on my pro, and I love it. Integration with a search engine would be downright perfection. Either way thank you kindly for the app.

sweet! thanks mate
I'm also using SABNZBD+ on my NAS at home - it would be great if I could use my mobile phone to initiate the download.....
I know such an app is available for the IPhone but not yet found one for winmo.

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Well it is still a mobile phone, not a desktop pc. Increasing the number of simultaneous connections, will increase the number of processor threads. There are limitions to the number of threads that can be run on windows mobile. But who knows, the new chipsets are getting faster and new versions of windows mobile are coming out. For now 4 connections are enough to get the max speed for most mobile connections out there (3G, HSDPA).
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ahh i get it now it makes sense i mean for me to be using edge it's still pretty fast just grab a couple of songs
but binsearch intergation would be really hot

Awesome stuff! I got PAR2 code lying around here somewhere... maybe I can get it to recompile for WM.

Great application, I'd like to see an "auto import" folder for the next version

Is there a "perfect" GPS program?

I can't seem to find a GPS program that has every feature I'd want on it. I hear a lot of people talking about TomTom, or Igo8, or a few others, but it seems like there are one or two important things that each one lacks, for me personally. So, here's my GPS snob wish list:
compatible with Xperia (duh)
US Maps
Ability to download international maps for traveling
real time traffic updates, with ability to route around traffic, if possible
voice navigation, turn by turn directions
ability to reroute in case of wrong turn (fairly standard now, i know)
Ability to get address from contacts
FYI, i used "Mapopolis" on my Loox T830, but it seems that they have gone out of business, and though i still have the maps, i can't find the reinstall package, and even if i could, i've heard reports that it runs very slowly on wm 6.1 . I liked everything about it, except now the maps aren't updated and I don't think it did traffic updates.
anyway, if someone knows of some software that fits the bill, please let me know.
Ian

Let me add "fast" to your list.
I've got a X1i with "MyWayfinder" pre-installed. This software sucks soooo much, it's unbelieveable that it is not labeled as an alpha-Version. It needs minutes to start up, to find GPS-Sat's and crashes always.
Then there was T-Mobile Navigate, which I couldn't test because the map data costs you money. Pay-per-route, if you wish.

Why didn't you like Tom Tom Navigator 7 again?
To my knowledge it has every feature you want.
I'm currently using it and I'm really happy with the way it works.

Does the Tom Tom Plus service work with v. 7? The traffic feature seems to be part of the "plus" feature set, and they only show version 6. Speaking of which, is there any tangible bennefit to going with 7 instead of version 6?
The only other thing is that i didn't see where I could download maps for other countries, it is almost like they have two completely different packages...EITHER US/Canada OR everything else, but not both. I could be wrong though.
You're right though, TT does seem like the best option. I probably just need to decide whether to go with version 6 or 7.
Input?

Yes, the TomTom plus service works with version 7. You only need a valid account.
I didn't actually test the version 6 on the Xperia (I only had it on my P1 (symbian os)) but I know that version 7 will work on X1's WVGA screen without a problem (because I have it).
Other than that there aren't many changes between the two versions. The new features that I could spot was the "map correction" feature, you can change your car symbol (that's helpful ), you can have quick links on the nav screen...and it works faster that version 6. But then again that might be just because the P1 had 218Mhz )
You can buy individual maps for countries or for regions if you want. I only had Western Europe, so I don't know how it behaves when you have to change regions (if it does it automatically or not). Even so...given that a flight from US/Canada to Europe takes umm...6-10hrs depending on your location you have the time to go into Manage Maps and switch to your new map.
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Oh...and there's another new feature : "lane guidance" so that you know on which side of the road you should be driving )

Garmin Mobile XT has all that and works really fine, and it´s really fast also, in about 5 seconds y hace full satelite signal.

Henry_eue said:
Garmin Mobile XT has all that and works really fine, and it´s really fast also, in about 5 seconds y hace full satelite signal.
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2nd that, really happy with Garmin

I can tell you for a fact that tomtom7 works in the United States with the Xperia X1. It has turn by turn navigation all the way down to live traffic updates.
Basically all the features that you called for in your original post. The new version of tomtom 7.xxxx something 96 supports geotagging also. I havent stayed with that version because i was having some tomtom plus account issues which were weird. So i stuck with TOMTOM 7.910.9185

I saw TT6 on ebay for $40 or so, with dvd of all U.S. maps...i'll let you know what I think, thanks for all the suggestions.

so.....
I installed TTN6 on my xperia (rev 2), then did a soft reset after installation. All it can do is crash. So far, I'm not too pleased with it.
any suggestions?

sygic
Have you checked out Sygic? check out www.sygic.com and
http://www.laptopgpsworld.com/sygic...oftware-launch-usa-canada-january-2008-a.html

Henry_eue said:
Garmin Mobile XT has all that and works really fine, and it´s really fast also, in about 5 seconds y hace full satelite signal.
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Can I use Garmin Mobile XT with another microSDHC also? I have a 16GB card in my X1 and I do not want to exchange the cards to be able to navigate..

There's only one problem I can't seem to solve with TT7 and X1....
I got the SW up and running, including 1 downloaded city.
But, I can't get the maps I've bought onto the phone, there's no way I've found that makes TomTom Home recognize my X1 and connect to it..
If anyone has a fix for this, like e.g. making the X1 'present itself' to TT Home as some known HTC device etc, I'd be very happy to know of it.
Not warez question this one, I've bought and paid for the maps, and if the SW were availiable for me I'd gladly pay for that too!
Have asked Tomtom about this a number of times, but always got the same reply. "device not supported"...

You have to install TT7 to the memory card and use a card reader, then it should work.

DeepBlue23 said:
You have to install TT7 to the memory card and use a card reader, then it should work.
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OK, but how do I go about achieving that? My .cab installs directly to phone memory, no options shown for any other targets like SD card...
What TT Home can i use, provided I can get help and install to SD Card?

completelyhis said:
so.....
I installed TTN6 on my xperia (rev 2), then did a soft reset after installation. All it can do is crash. So far, I'm not too pleased with it.
any suggestions?
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Try TTN7, 6 won't work on your X1.

camiel1979 said:
Try TTN7, 6 won't work on your X1.
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That's wrong, whilst TomTom refuse to support the X1 it does work.

Now to complicate this a bit .. what about if I add geocaching into the basket ? Garmin XT is clearly oriented on car.

You should try Navitel (3.2.5+).
Lots of free maps and other stuff, navi is very cool, light, fast.
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i use garmin, no problem at all

What Is The Best Paid Navi App For USA TP2?

My head hurts from all the out-dated search info and ads i've been getting spammed with...
Is TomTom even selling a US version for WinMo? All I could find was one version for the GDMF'ing iPhone and the rest were international.
Does Garmin XT work in landscape mode yet? Do you still have to do a keygen hack to transfer it to your own sd card?
What do y'all think is the best paid app and is there that big of a diff between the best paid app and the best free one?
Is there an app avail that does the following?
turn by turn
text to speech
3d maps
landscape mode
installable on your own microSD card
Any help would be appreciated...

amAzeGPS
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amAzeGPS
I know its not a paid app but I'd take a look at www.amazegps.com. It has everything you are looking for. Its free and downloads the maps from the internet. One drawback is it is less intuitive on the address input and a little unstable when using other programs. Not too bad for free though.

TomTom....I love it.

I have been using Copilot Live 8 for almost a month now and i like it. Plus it was only 34.99 for the US and CA maps.

I am using Garmin Mobile XT Version 4.10.00wp and I love it. It works in portrait and landscape mode on my Verizon HTC Touch Pro 2. One of the nicest features is the real-time traffic. When I used TomTom Navigator this was a feature that you needed to pay for.
I have used the following GPS software:
TomTom Navigator
iGuidance
Navngo iGo 8
Garmin Mobile XT
GPSTuner
AmazeGPS
TomTom is nice because its a super easy to use interface, just like the TomTom GPS units themselves.
iGuidance is nice because it features text to speech (it will say turn left onto king street instead of just turn left.) The one major complaint I have is the UI looks like it was made by a child and keyboard is horrible.
iGo8 is visually stunning (featured 3D buildings and superb graphics) but a bit more complicated to do simple things like entering in a destination or finding a poi. I got frustrated with iGo8 very quickly.
GPS Tuner was nothing but buggy for me...
Garmin's Mobile XT is in my opinion the way to go for simplicity, style, and performance. The traffic feature is a huge plus, and like the TomTom's UI it is super easy to use. The onscreen keyboard is big enough so if you mount the phone in a cradle, you wont need to take it out to type in a destination.
Hope this helps, if you have any other questions feel free to PM me.
- Cheers

Ive been using IGO8 and i cant really see it getting much better than that.. It runs flawlessly on my tp2 with zero lag whatsoever... I would recommend this to anyone..

I'm all about CoPilot Live 8. As was stated before, it's only $34.99 and is full-featured. I was going to upgrade my iNav license, but after trying out CP8, I will stay with it.
J

Im using Ndrive, it works in landscape, different voice options and a pretty standard UI. I like it a lot

jok3sta said:
Ive been using IGO8 and i cant really see it getting much better than that.. It runs flawlessly on my tp2 with zero lag whatsoever... I would recommend this to anyone..
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+1 I love it and use it all the time. Its a very nice looking program, and cool to have the 3D buildings.

garmin is the best
TreyDizzle said:
My head hurts from all the out-dated search info and ads i've been getting spammed with...
Is TomTom even selling a US version for WinMo? All I could find was one version for the GDMF'ing iPhone and the rest were international.
Does Garmin XT work in landscape mode yet? Do you still have to do a keygen hack to transfer it to your own sd card?
What do y'all think is the best paid app and is there that big of a diff between the best paid app and the best free one?
Is there an app avail that does the following?
turn by turn
text to speech
3d maps
landscape mode
installable on your own microSD card
Any help would be appreciated...
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MOD EDIT
to offer warez on the forum is not allowed even..via pm
YOU ONLY GET ONE WARNING ON THIS MATTER

Telenav has text to speech but isn't run off your sd card. I'm currently using Garmin but doesn't have text to speech.

Garmin XT
Before I get my TP2 I was using Garmin Nuvi, After I bought Touch Pro2, I start to use NavTel. It was fine but limited for 14 days then they asked about 10 USD/month. So I changed my mind and turn back to Garmin. I bought Garmin XT. It works for me really well. Voice Prompt, 2D and 3D navigation maps, fast, Traffic and weather services. It is really good software. Only think about it If you need a bigger sd card you need to copy, paste and re unlock the software and maps in the new card.
But since you have the original card, It is Legal.

i love igo8... it looks amazing
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Sprint Navigation on the TP2 is free
With the TP2 on Sprint, it comes with free Sprint Navigation. a bit laggy, but not bad for $0.

I might be just stupid, but I've been trying to get Copilot Live 8 working on my TP2 for about a week now. I bought a 16GB SD card for the main purpose of storing the app and the whole North American map on it. I installed the App and activated it on my phone and downloaded the map via CoPilot Central, but it won't let me transfer it (the button is grayed out). The only thing that I can think of why it doesn't let me transfer is that CPCentral shows me only having 208MB free on my device, when the map is 1.01GB. How can I get it to see the SD card? I found the map files on my PC. Could I just copy them into the SD card? If so, where? I'm seeing something in Program Files and in the root of the card, but I'm not sure.
Anyone who's gotten this working, how did you do it?

Copilot live - Navigon - Sygic

Hi All
I want to purchase a GPS software for the Desire that does not need a data connection. I have read some reviews on the following Copilot live, Navigon, Sygic, however I am undecided which one works best for Froyo 2.2.
From the screenshots and specs, Navigon seems to be the best option although more pricy, however lots of people here seem to prefer CoPilot Live.
Anyone has good experience with these packages?
BTW I need it mainly for mainland Europe since I live in Belgium
Thanks for your opinions.

I use Copilot and I find it excellent. Serves me well in the UK, and was exceptional when I drove from the UK down to Spain - it's very cheap too for what it is.
I did download the 30 trial of Navigon as well, and whilst it seemed perfectly fine, it didn't seem to be as fully featured as Copilot.
Regards,
Dave

Thanks Dave for your reply. Most prob I will download the 30 day trial for Navigon and see how it goes.

I have tried both Navigon and Copilot.
Using Copilot now, and likes it very much...

Make sure you get Copilot 8.2 as 8.1 doesn't work on 2.1.
I have Copilot 8.2 on Froyo and works perfectly well. Love it.

i love sygic...the last 8.14 version runs faster and smoother, and choose the best routes.

I was facing the same issue too. I just recently got my Desire and it came with 2.2 Froyo. I used to use IGo on my Treo Pro and I liked it.
I picked up the Navigon program and I was blown off my feet when I used it. It is absolutely amazing on the Desire. I had a trial version of Copilot and didnt like it in comparison.
What I like about Navigon is that it is a no brainer to use and the 3d rendering and driving is fantastic.
I think you cant go wrong with it.

Sygic doesnt works with android 2.2 .

actually sygic does work with 2.2

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+1 for Sygic from me too.... Runs smoothly on Desire

+1 for Navigon
no problems...find sat very fast and the Graphics are very good and smooth
and it have Navtec cards
edit: maybe you make a poll in the thread
with kind regards..Alex

I'd say Sygic but everyone will say that his GPS app is also good so...try to look for trials and test them for a week.

At the end I went for Copilot since the feedback I got was more pro CoPilot. I have not tested it extensively yet, however I am quite happy with it

Copilot is great, but if you want to use it in your car with the sound going through the headphone socket into your stereo, you will find that the volume is way too low especially if you wanted to listen to the Desire's music at the same time.
Having said that, if you just want to use it as a standalone unit, it is loud enough, despite the Desire's speaker in other applications (including the speakerphone) being dismal!

Sygic blows.
3d view feels like 2fps, navigation made some horrible mistakes.
I'm using Navigon now but i'm not a fan of the handling.

Hi,
What about traffic information?
In TomTom, there is a strip to the right hand side indicating if there are problems on the route, whereas in CoPilot there isn't, and to be honest I can't see how the traffic on CoPilot works at all.
How does traffic work on Sygic or Navigon? I'm in the UK and there's been a really nice CoPilot traffic update much like what I describe for TomTom but it's only out in the US at the moment, so it's really about how Sygic and Navigon present and use traffic information to you.
Of course, if someone knows how to make CoPilot's traffic work please let me know!
Cheers,
Joe

shadow# said:
Sygic blows.
3d view feels like 2fps, navigation made some horrible mistakes.
I'm using Navigon now but i'm not a fan of the handling.
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That's cause of the default ini. In the ini file you can change the FPS to 30FPS making it super smooth.

joebongo said:
Hi,
What about traffic information?
In TomTom, there is a strip to the right hand side indicating if there are problems on the route, whereas in CoPilot there isn't, and to be honest I can't see how the traffic on CoPilot works at all.
How does traffic work on Sygic or Navigon? I'm in the UK and there's been a really nice CoPilot traffic update much like what I describe for TomTom but it's only out in the US at the moment, so it's really about how Sygic and Navigon present and use traffic information to you.
Of course, if someone knows how to make CoPilot's traffic work please let me know!
Cheers,
Joe
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I'm using Co-Pilot in UK and the live traffic info works quite well, and you can choose to navigate around the blockage. It's a subscription service though - £20 for 12 months, I've been doing a lot of driving the last few months and it's actually been very useful.

Happy with Sygic on froyo
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