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Please, anyone else with a Shift that doesn't feel "solid" anymore after some weeksuse ?
Main issue being the screen that got loose hinges...when I touch the screen the display scrueeqs on it's hinges...
Also, I notice that the two rectangular screenholders on the bottom of the device have about 1mm "play" or "loosened up hinges, in it, after some weeks of use.
I'm really careful with my device, want to know if others have this issue too...
The screen on my shift is a bit too stiff, but it´s only two weeks old.
It also has a small movement on the two linear guides, half a millimeter or so.
What worries me is when putting it flat again, it makes a "clack" sound that makes me pity for the HDD.
I´ve attached a small black round sticker to the two magnets and it has improved a bit without affecting any movement.
Daniel
I've had mine since release day, it's had plenty of use, but the hinges still feel firm, no squeaks, no play in them... The slider mechanism is still smooth.
So no problems here.
Same for me. Still solid after 6 month.
Mine is little hard to turn the monitor from day one. When I contacted HTC, they said it is very common and it could be fixed once I start using it. I normally don't use keyboard, because I am more used to soft keyboard on Vista side, so I don't see much difference here.
Thanks
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thats how mine is but in the bottom. not a big deal but i did feel it
several people reported the same thing before. screen not flush all the way around. there's no adhesive, the screen slides out of the outer sleeve if you remove the screws in back.
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mine does it on the bottom.
it feels like there is a slight gap in between the bottom bezel and the screen.
It's not a problem at all, but it sure is annoying at times.
On the left side of my HD2 the screen is easier to push in at the top and bottom, but it takes a lot of pressure to make it "squeak".
If I had a cosmetic issue, you can bet I would be on a waiting list to get a replacement. The looks on these phones are nearly as important as the performance, IMHO.
oh i deff agree, @op, if you only just got it id be trying to take it back.
Same on mine at the bottom - just barely - if you slightly press between the usb and headphone jack you hear a slight (guess it sounds like) a click and you feel it slightly move. When the usb jack is plugged in it stops Some play and I don't think its worth returning - also don't think it will get worse. Case materials should have been a little more rigid. Think if you get a hard shell case or aluminum skin - when they become available you won't notice it. Talking to other guys with the HTC branded Euro version their build quality is a bit better. Think its pretty much the same with all HTC stuff - their branded models (TYTN TYTN II etc.) were build better than the AT&T versions - they also cost a lot more because they aren't subsidized.
Personally feel the HD2 of all the MS phones with the exception of the HTC TYTN I is the most solid. The Fuze which I just got rid of was probably the worst. The case was ok but the front keypad was pure junk - out of the box the thing felt like it was going to break and it never sat "square" in its opening. The USB ports on all of them were really weak and were super loose out of the box. The slide out keyboards always loosened up and had too much play.
stim141 said:
Personally feel the HD2 of all the MS phones with the exception of the HTC TYTN I is the most solid. The Fuze which I just got rid of was probably the worst. The case was ok but the front keypad was pure junk - out of the box the thing felt like it was going to break and it never sat "square" in its opening. The USB ports on all of them were really weak and were super loose out of the box. The slide out keyboards always loosened up and had too much play.
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For me, the Touch Pro 2 has top honors when it comes to "feeling" solid. My sister dropped it the other day and cracked the bevel, with a large triangle missing near the volume rocker and three other cracks on the bottom, top and opposite side.
I am encouraging her to return it and claim the insurance, but since there is no change in the quality of the phone's operation, she wants to keep it.
Again, for me, the TP2 seems more solid than the HD2, but the HD2 is very well-built compared to other phones. I am so paranoid about even putting my phone down on a hard surface, due to the sharp edges of the camera mount and the light metal case.
I will be installing my new invisibleSHEILD as soon as sirphunkee and I can make the time to meet somewhere clean (I have a 2yo at home ). I imagine my paranoia will drop a bit then...
I dropped my phone while working out at the gym.
I was on the treadmill, and dropped the phone from my hand to the treadmill belt, then it flew out (i was running pretty fast at speed 7) and ended up hitting the wall behind me. Well, I freaked out and ran over to check on the phone.
Even though I had NO protection, the phone was perfectly fine. Only a tiny scratch that's barely visible on the top left bezel, and everything was fine.
I really was surprised at the sturdiness of the phone.
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For me, the Touch Pro 2 has top honors when it comes to "feeling" solid. My sister dropped it the other day and cracked the bevel, with a large triangle missing near the volume rocker and three other cracks on the bottom, top and opposite side.
I am encouraging her to return it and claim the insurance, but since there is no change in the quality of the phone's operation, she wants to keep it.
Again, for me, the TP2 seems more solid than the HD2, but the HD2 is very well-built compared to other phones. I am so paranoid about even putting my phone down on a hard surface, due to the sharp edges of the camera mount and the light metal case.
I will be installing my new invisibleSHEILD as soon as sirphunkee and I can make the time to meet somewhere clean (I have a 2yo at home ). I imagine my paranoia will drop a bit then...
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My TP2 fell out of my hand in a parking lot, the thing didn't hit hard, but it left a small scratch on the screen (it was visible, but wasn't too obvious) and then some nicks at the corners of the device. It did look used. I returned it to T-Mo (I was still within 14-day remorse period) and used the money I got back to get an HD2 instead (for some reason I didn't qualify for either the full or the 11 month upgrade price, only 50 bucks discount... now that I think about it, I should have gotten it at full price, also, the day after it arrived (ordered online) T-Mo came out with the 2 for 1 smartphone, but alas, a new line was needed and I had no use for it).
I've dropped my HD2 at least 4 times since and there's not a nick on it. I figure the glass screen helps (as opposed to the TP2's plastic), even if it's a finger print magnet. I also have no problems with the screen or bezel being uneven, even after dropping it, nor have I had any single of the problems people complain about, so, go figure, I got the perfect production HD2.
Whew.... OK. Soooo glad to hear this isnt only my device. Mines is on the bottom. I also dont see it getting any worst and its so minor right now its probably not worth the hassle of returning. I tend to keep the gel case on it anyway..
thrashingdeth said:
thats how mine is but in the bottom. not a big deal but i did feel it
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x2 same as mines.
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I had an issue with mine creaking, on the bottom. Mainly when I was pressing the start key, or back. Got a replacement and it seems better. For a phone seriously delayed I don't get how the quality is so terrible.
my first hd2 the camera lens started to rattle tmobile replaced it
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my first hd2 the camera lens started to rattle tmobile replaced it
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Was it the camera lens or the casing around the camera?
After watching the tear-down video I could see how the camera casing could be improperly installed and loosen after a bit of handling, but I thought the lens was pretty solid...
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JWang158 said:
Seriously, this phone is turning out to be pretty half baked.
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I disagree. Not sure if I got lucky or not, but my phone is in perfect condition despite being a month old and spending most of that time in my back pocket.
I've sat on it countless times, dropped it from my hand to the floor twice and dropped it from the car holder to the console in my vehicle so many times I can't count.
The only problem I have is with the SMS freeze, and I've solved 90% of that by keeping my inbox clean. If I have the money for a class 6 microSD card, I'd bet on having solved the other 10% of my problems.
Since upgrading my radio, I don't have any problems with dropped calls, missing texts, loss of 3G or any of the other popular issues that seem to be plaguing the new owners.
Since bad news always travels faster and wider than good news, one simply can't infer from the issues being discussed here that they are the norm. I would suspect a very small percentage of the HD2 owners frequent the forums here, and of those another small percentage are having hardware issues.
I've been through a few of these new phone releases here in the past and from my experience I would say that this is pretty normal for the first few months of a phone's release. In another month or so there will be a firmware upgrade to fix the freezing and icon switching, then a lot of the issues will switch from hardware to software. Soon after that, I expect everyone will be clamoring for the release of a Windows Phone 7 ROM, followed a few months later by a newer, faster phone that everyone will be switching to. A cycle, vicious but almost predictable.
There is already an active thread discussing the hinge issue. Please direct further discussion here. PS, you are lucky I did not just delete this entirely! ~TheRomMistress
Hey guys,
For those who own htc desire z, hows the hinge for you already? How long have you owned the device already?
Other than that, hows the speed performance for you guys? In terms of web browsing and opening applications?
Thanks for your time.
Sent from my HTC Desire
Speed for me is awesome, and I'm still at stock speed, not tried overclocking yet.
My hinge is fine, just the same as when I initially got the phone (about two and a half weeks ago).
Unless your phone is faulty, I think the only people who have a problem are some who want to use their phone while lying in bed and holding the phone right above them. I never use my phone like that.
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I think the only people who have a problem are some who want to use their phone while lying in bed and holding the phone right above them. I never use my phone like that.
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I do use it like this, every night, and no problem at all. The design is not faulty. When you hold it like that above your face whilst in bed the way the hand and fingers hold the device the screen stays open and does not fall down at all.
Every night I use it like this!
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I do use it like this, every night, and no problem at all. The design is not faulty. When you hold it like that above your face whilst in bed the way the hand and fingers hold the device the screen stays open and does not fall down at all.
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I know what you mean. I did actually try and the way I would hold the phone in that position it won't open for me either. Seems there are a few who hold their phone differently when laying down though, and then perhaps gravity means it does open.
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...I think the only people who have a problem are some who want to use their phone while lying in bed and holding the phone right above them. I never use my phone like that.
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Not strictly true. My hinge is fine - had the phone 9 days now and it's still as tight as it started out. My only problem is that the top half of the phone is not tight against the bottom half when it's closed - causing a tapping when using the touchscreen. I'm ok when I have a gel case on it which keeps the two halves separate and cushioned. Only problem is that this case makes it difficult to type on the top row of keys. I have another hard case which is thinner, but does not eliminate the tapping problem. I'm waiting for another case to arrive from the US which is rubber - hopefully will cushion like the gel, but be thin like the hard case.
I opted not change the phone since I have been told others have the same problem, and I didn't want to risk getting a loose hinge AS WELL AS the tapping...
At the end of the day this phone is pretty effing awesome otherwise (aside from a few little software issues - which will be fixed by devs on XDA no doubt), and I'm sure I will solve this problem one way or another, whether it's with a particular case, or worst comes to worst, sticking some of sort of thin cushioning material to the bottom of the top half of the phone - any suggestions, please feel free to let me know!!
I do wish HTC had just gone with a normal slider though, and this phone would be perfect.
My DZ is exactly as setspeed described..
I would add that while holding the DZ without the case mentioned by setspeed, it feels a bit like holding two thin phones combined together rather than one phone.
its really not as bad as it sounds but i would have liked it if there was some sort of latch or something to hold the screen tight to the keyboard while the device is closed.
I have the phone for two weeks now.. for the first couple of days I put a rubber case on it (the black case that T-Mobile sell for the G2) but i removed it very quickly as i felt it gave the phone a very bulky feeling to it.. the case is not very thin and the DZ is not the lightest of phones.
Im on the lookout for a thinner case too.. it would be great if there was a clear one as-well..
setspeed, please post your thoughts on the new case after you try it out
I also thought of adding some cushioning material to the bottom of the screen, I'm on the lookout for that as-well..
other than that, my hinge holds the screen tight in place while the device is open.. the screen opening while the phone is upside down is really not an issue.
I haven't rooted my phone yet, i don't really feel the need to.. I compared it to the old desire i bought for my girlfriend.
I think that the new Sense UI is a bit heavier on the system and so there are some places i feel the old desire is faster.
for example, when dragging down the notification view from the top of the screen, the new Sense gives you a list of recent apps used. sometimes it needs to populate that list and so dragging down the notification view is not as fluent as on the old desire. its not an issue because once it populates the list, it runs smooth very smooth as-well.
I think there is also a bit of lag while scrolling through menus. the lag clears after first scroll and then it runs smoothly again.
I'm sure that there are some optimized roms out there that take care of those small issues.
I had a hard time deciding which phone to buy - the old desire or the Z..
I'm actually really happy with my decision..
Its a very very good phone
Hope you found my thoughts useful
OK, so the Omnia 7 is my first Samsung device, always had HTC devices before (and still do).
Why the heck is it so slippy, and difficult to hold? the DesireHD (and HD2 before that and every other phone I've owned) sit quiet happily in my hand, the Omnia tries to commit suicide almost every time I hold it, and heaven help me if my hand is slightly damp!
Anyone got any decent ideas on how to make the thing more usable? is there perhaps an aftermarket battery cover that's OEM looking and slightly rubberised?
+1 - noticed this when I first got my phone but it seems to be some kind of coating that has worn off - at least my phone is far less slippery than it used to be. Tried different covers which worked ok but ended up being unhappy with the extra depth these added to the phone.
try the case mate shell, it's made of plastic so less slippery plus only adds a bit more bulk. i had the same concerns so had to buy it, and have since dropped my phone on its side directly on the pavement, and the case worked great, phone is fine.
I got myself a gelaskin, much better grip.
Got the official Samsung flip case from ebay France. Works great and is pretty slim.
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try the case mate shell, it's made of plastic so less slippery plus only adds a bit more bulk. i had the same concerns so had to buy it, and have since dropped my phone on its side directly on the pavement, and the case worked great, phone is fine.
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Yeap, the case mate hard case is awesome. That was the first thing that i bought once i got my omnia 7.
GelaSkins FTW
REALLY annoying!
I just bought a case for £2 from Ebay!
yes indeed a very slippery phone, Im using my hd2 pouch until I can find the official case
Yes, it's a bit slick. But I've never had a problem with slippage in day to day useage. I guess it's just down to how you hold it.
Slippy i cant say. But the corved back ends up on the edges making the sides to thin to get a good grip. The problem gets escaleted with the button that is to sencetive. The total result is, you have to use the phone for a while to get used to it, and it sure takes a while. While calling there is no promblem for me, surfing, taking pictures that requers you to tilt and move the phone in your hand is the problem. And its the buttons fault.
cm case-mate offers what looks to be the best solutions. Specially the screen protector that comes with the pack is among the best i have seen. It keeps the glass look thats offerd without any screen protectors. Was also supprised how easy to mount it was.
I bought CM standard black solution, and it cured all the button problems and is now easy to hold. Its a bit ugly thou, but the plus side makes me use it. The overall experience is therefor greatly increased.
If any body tryed the "barely there" version, could you plz explain your view of experience. Does it keep the good look while offering a decient protection?
Also, does anybody experience a difference on responsivness between the back, and the search button? My back button is less sencitive and i find myself having to re press the button. While search button i so responsive i kan just stare at the button =D. Hope its not my device that is faulty.
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Also, does anybody experience a difference on responsivness between the back, and the search button? My back button is less sencitive and i find myself having to re press the button. While search button i so responsive i kan just stare at the button =D. Hope its not my device that is faulty.
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Both have the same sensitivity for me. It could be that you're using a slightly different angle with your finger/thumb on the buttons if you're holding the phone in one hand.
No, the angle doesnt matter. :-(
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I got myself a gelaskin, much better grip.
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Best option, damn phones 'slippery like a fish' haha
Mine had the same problem, th eback button was not sensitive at all and sometimes didnt even work. I sent it back and got a replacement. Glad to say new one is Ok. I think this is a fault with some of these phones.
I've had my DVP for about 4-6 weeks now, and the phone is great. No major problems or complaints.
I'm just wondering if this issue was unique to my model though. When the phone is closed, the top edge of the screen seems like it's offset from the body by a few millimeters down. It seems like it is properly aligned when I close the phone and set it on a hard flat surface in a perfectly vertical position.
Is this the way the phone is supposed to be? Or is this slight defect unique to my particular handset?
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I've had my DVP for about 4-6 weeks now, and the phone is great. No major problems or complaints.
I'm just wondering if this issue was unique to my model though. When the phone is closed, the top edge of the screen seems like it's offset from the body by a few millimeters down. It seems like it is properly aligned when I close the phone and set it on a hard flat surface in a perfectly vertical position.
Is this the way the phone is supposed to be? Or is this slight defect unique to my particular handset?
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THANK GOD YOU RECOGNIZE IT!
because no one else seems to pay attention to this kind of detail. Or at lease they dont know any better.
i mean how hard can it be? its OBvious!
I've gone through 6 hand set and they've all had some weird offset like you've spoken above.
I even created a thread about it and everyone was like ... "nope, mines fine"
what are the odds that 5 out of 6 handsets came misaligned?
Another thing too, if you look at the device from the side, you'd notice that the gap spacing is different when it's opened and closed from all sides because the sliding mechanism is stupid.
I would say return your device or make up some excuse to have it replace by dell.
don't worry you automatically have a 1 year warranty in case anything defective happens.
Or, just make up some stupid excuse. They'll send you a new device, and you send the old one back.
Dell is retarded like that.
if i were you, i'd TOOL them.
It's probably due to the magnet that is used for the slider action, which pulls it to one side.
I think it is just the design of the phone, I have had 3 DVP's now and all were slightly "misaligned"
THANK YOU. This has bugged me from day one, even though it's a terribly minor issue. One thing I've noticed is that there is no "gap" at the bottom of the phone, but on the top, the screen half of the slider is a few milometers further down.
And there was me thinking I was being picky!!
Also, I noticed when it is slid up the screen goes wonky by perhaps 1 degree.
I was considering returning but as it seems some people have been few a number of misaligned handsets it seems unlikely there'll be a truly perfect one... shame.
my top front is slightly misaligned by half a millimeter or so - I can notice it if I am looking hard. Glad its only a little bit as it seems the problem can be much worse judging by this thread.
The slider action however is awesome - especially when coming from a pre
Ya mine has the same thing. Literally millimeters off. I wonder if getting a case fixes this.
Luckily everyone I show the phone off too never notices