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Has any one got a link for a freeware program to do throtterling of the CPU as in not always running at 400Mhz? I've seen a few more complex ones that you have to pay for but they do all sorts of things? I am thinking of giving it a go and the whole point of Intel developing the XScale chip is because it's able to Scale down the speed (Hense the name) this saves a lot of battery life apparently...
Any ideas?
Downclock your processor will not take a lot saving your battery life (about 10%).
Use XCPUScalar for your Xscale cpu,it let you choose 100-200-300-400-472 Mhz mode.
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thanks for the reply unapproachable2kx I will take a look into that program... Great work...
Hear is a direct link for any one that would like to look it up as well
http://www.immiersoft.com/
does the program expire at all? has any one done any testing of just very basic PDA work as in address lookup, phone number lookup and that sorta stuff and seen how much extra battery like they can get out of there PDA?
Is there any programs that can automaticly scale the speed of the CPU acording to CPU load that is freeware? Will Microsoft be implamenting CPU scaling in the Second Edition of there 2003 OS? still can't belive that its not a built in feature if the CPU's where designed to scale acordingly...
Does no one else know of any others that can scale the CPU speed according to usage? ass well as the software being freeware?
The Xscaler prog is not free.
This is
http://elevatedstudios.com/pocket/
Thanks for the link xda-rocks, Have you had any trouble using this software on the XDA II, I see they give you a bit of babble about you may have to do hard resets and stuff like that.... Have you had any problems as yet... I have never used any CPU throterling software and am just wanting to play around with it a bit..
Do you notice a extended battery life if you use this software at all?
No probs so far, but haven't really had time to try it - only just installed myself.
I'd love to know what is the best of the best . . .
have use the O2, Qtek and Dopod but not on the same versions but I would say that Dopod's latest version works really well for me.
could you te me why?
I switched from T Mob Bloat Rom to the Qtek one.
I'd be interested to hear why you think it is so good.
Anyone else got a fave??
lr
I have been using an O2 Rom from the beginning of the year, and it is so very slow.
So I am rather keen to know what would be the best upgrade too.. Cheers!
looking in the other forum it looks like the dopod is quite good - again no friggin idea why!!!!
well for starters, they do not install a lot of aditional items. The only item installed is Voice Commander and that also is removable. In fact, when you do a hard reset and let the configuration run, you get almost 39mb of ROM space which is a lot in my opinion. Uninstall the Voice Commander and you get some more if you want to. There aren't even any additional themes like those installed on the iMate.
pretty kool - isn't voice commander any good then?
well its not too bad. supposed it can read your unread sms but i have yet to test it out.
though some like microsoft voice command as it announces who is calling.
i guess at the end of the day, it depends on what you need.
From my point of view, Qtek-9000 rom (whitout ext rom loaded) is the best one. It's light-weight, compact and fast enough than others. With some registry/memory tweaks, this is the fastest rom i ever used.
ranju said:
From my point of view, Qtek-9000 rom (whitout ext rom loaded) is the best one. It's light-weight, compact and fast enough than others. With some registry/memory tweaks, this is the fastest rom i ever used.
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could you share with us what are the tweaks that you used?
Find the CAB attached. A restart is required after the installation.
The tweaks included in the CAB is mostly collected from the internet. But carefully tuned to get the best performance from Qtek-9000 (ROM). Universal has only 64mb RAM so that I tuned the registry to balance max free memory and best performance.
You will have an option (Settings>System>Power) in the processor tab to set the speed either Standard or Turbooooooooooooooo!
Turbo provides more processing speed but drains your battery toooooooooo!
Enjoy! :lol:
what does turbo mode do ??? it does not change cpu speed, so , what does it do '???
thanks
And please do post a list of the tweaks you have in the cab. I thought I could choose which ones to run but I guess not.
If I uninstall your cab with it revert to the previous registry entries?
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what does turbo mode do ??? it does not change cpu speed, so , what does it do '???
thanks
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The Standard behavior of the XScale processor is to run in dynamic mode, which means CPU usually tooks less power and switched in hi power mode only when an application asked it. But in Turbo mode, it runs in hi-power mode always and as a result you are getting better performance.
Ranju: is it for T-mobile only? I tried to install it (Qtek 9000) but it was neglected. (can't install it). Can the tweaks be manually done? If so: what are they?
ok but that implies changing the cpu speed and that isn't happening
Had to restore my backup... I removed the cab, which didn't unistall it completely. Tried to run it again and it wouldn't install (because it never removed the files it put in during the 1st install).
I like what you did, and I would kill to have a UI to pick and choose the changes I want applied. Right now there's not even a list of what's in there, which is why I tried to remove it in the first place.
It's a nice enough idea though.
ok ,it does not change the speed but picodrive runs MUCH smother !! i'll try to do this "feature" with XCPUScalar2006_v2.98 so i can use "speedstep" to save battery
We use the Universal for speech systems for people with disabilities. However the speed of the device is marginal for us, because the system itself uses a massive (30%+) fraction of the processor time even when the system is at idle.
I've just been asked if using any alternate ROM images might help speed the device up much, and I haven't got a clue. Help!
Does anyone know if any of the ROM images that are out there makes a significant difference to the speed of the universal? Is there a ROM image around which completely removes all phone functionality (not all our users use the phone)?
I'd be very grateful for any guidance, before we start trying ROM images at random...
Stuart
Hello, first of all, -and I'm not sure about this- I think that the ROMs images are not available at this site's FTP anymore.
Then, if you can have a ROM, prefer the "plain vanilla" ones, unless you might need several extra programs, if you need speed, you need a light and simple ROM, there are several of them, from Helmi's, to Ivan's and others that I just can't remember now, look out in the posts and find a stable one to use, test it with your app until you think is the right one.
Alternatively you can increase your CPU's clock, but this drains the battery faster, a solution for this might be to install a larger battery, your use of the uni might permit all of these things.
I haven't tested any custom ROMs, but I have a friend with a uni that has installed in its uni a Helmi's ROM, I saw it, it seems quite speedier than my T-mobile one, he told me that the voice tags call fuction didn't work and something else, but, was it faster indeed.
bye
stuartaw said:
We use the Universal for speech systems for people with disabilities. However the speed of the device is marginal for us, because the system itself uses a massive (30%+) fraction of the processor time even when the system is at idle.
I've just been asked if using any alternate ROM images might help speed the device up much, and I haven't got a clue. Help!
Does anyone know if any of the ROM images that are out there makes a significant difference to the speed of the universal? Is there a ROM image around which completely removes all phone functionality (not all our users use the phone)?
I'd be very grateful for any guidance, before we start trying ROM images at random...
Stuart
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have you tried to kill useless proggy at startup???
if you want i may be able to make a clean rom for you...
actually try increasing the pagingpool a simple hexedit on existing roms (wm6 section of this forum look for helmi's kitchen)
Thanks for the suggestions so far.
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have you tried to kill useless proggy at startup???
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I've tried killing everything I can. The processor is occupied by one thread within devices.exe; and I can't really kill that process... Everything else had minimal/no impact.
Stuart
What application are you using to identify process usage? 30% sounds very high to me.
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What application are you using to identify process usage? 30% sounds very high to me.
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The remote tools in Visual Studio. Shows 1%-4% processor usage at idle for other PDAs, 30-35% for TyTN and Universal (the only 2 HTC machines I had access to). I used the kernel tracker thing to track execution, and it was one particular thread in devices.exe which was both busy, and also, sometimes, thrashing around at <100 micro-s frequency.
This figure does fit with our other experiences. The particular speed problem we have is with a library which is spec-ed to work on any machine with 400Mhz+ processor. Works fine on other machines, including some quite old PDAs, but has 'issues' due to slow processor on the Universal and is simply unusable on the TyTN.
I couldn't find anything I could do to improve this in RAM - and a colleague asked if any of the alternate ROMs might help - and I've haven't got a clue, but hoped someone might know if any of the ROMs are visibly faster.
Stuart
Have you tried changing the default clock speed?
Hi Stuart,
I think there are a lot of applications out there which allow you to overclock and change the clock speed of Xscale CPU's. Things like XCPUScalar 2007. If you look at this thread(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=304786)you should be able to find some useful information regarding scaling the CPU speed, hope this helps.
Will.
Hi everybody,
are there any experiences with Charmer and overclocking? I'd like to speed up my PDA, especially when using CPU-intensive programs such as iGo/TomTom (GPS navigation). Before installing a bunch of probably useless utilities, I just want to check whether anybody is overclocking his device.
Which programs do you use (e.g. omapscaler) and are does this lead to any noticeable changes?
Using batterystatus here which includes OMAP and CPUScaler.
I have to say i am finding some difficiulties linked to the fact that the screen often misalign and the overclocking seems to be having problem with spb backup (it makes the device freeze).
The setting i have are
Min 143Mhz
Org. 195Mhz
Max 247Mhz
I am also using the "Add short time boost" functionality at 273Mhz.
For CPU% thresold i stick with teh program default values.
Apart from this the speed is great and allow me to run a bunch of Touch application designed for more powerful/recent telephones wihtout much problems.
P.S. tomtom doesn't need overclocking, it is not a CPUI intensive application adnd runs great with factory clocking.
Thanks, I'll give batterystatus a try.
CPUScaler
CPUScaler, the best I ever used.
regards
Batterystatus is currently the best overclocking program for OMAP processors. You can easily overclock it to 273, some models can take even 286 and 299.
Hello all TD2 users. After trying countless roms, cabs, settings, tweaks and all, reading information about the hardware in the phone i really don't understand:
Why is the phone so slow?
What i mean:
1. The stock rom is a nightmare to use, it lags, all the fancy animations are actualy made for the HD2: 2x faster phone than our. Custom roms are better optimised but even than it's a choppy feeling.
2. The qualcomm 528mhz processor is not the slowest one, BUT, it cannot keep up with the software. Even overclocked to 710mhz, stable, the phone is not fluent by a long run.
3. The Adreno 130 GPU ? What actually does it do ? Is the Sence UI using the GPU, only the GPU or it's mixed ? Overclocking the Processor don't speed up the animations and the transition between tabs. So i guess the GPU is the only power you need to run the UI ?
4. If the GPU is slow, why actualy do HTC put a 800x480 screen. The WildFire has a resolution 3x smaller and a 2x faster GPU (adreno 200) and a better CPU too.
I really don't get it. Is it all software related, or the Diamond 2 is a total hardware and software mess, just put what we have to date (year 2009) and go for it.
Can someone inform me about some of the points. I have real interest in knowing the phone.
Thanks.
I never had issues on this device.
I agree the stock ROM is disastrous, but I have ran some cooked ROMs that performed quite well and never over clocked.
Also over clocking beyond a certain point will cause lags, as I'm sure you are aware. I thought it was around 648 where it starts.
A task killer is essential so you do not have too many apps running simultaneously.
Too many apps installed can degrade the speed as well.
I do not think it is necessarily hardware limitations.
A couple of pointers would be to either flash back to stock or perform a MTTY Task 29 in between flashing ROMs, soft reset occasionally to keep cache clear and do not install crucial apps to the SD card.
I completely agree with Bruce.
I never seen any performance issue with the device even when I was using the Stock ROM or my OWN Cooked Rom, which I feel much more better for my device.
- You will need to make sure you are not overloading apps that are keep running in background.
- Do use any good task manager. I USE and suggest ArkSwitch.
- Avoid Manila Mods that kill performance. Alway try to stick to simple Manila (like the default that comes with device/rom) .
- Avoid big wallpapers.
etc are some of the basic tips that I can suggest .
Thanks.
Actually the latest Rom from Prabhat, Photon 1.4 is showing me that the device can actually be faster than i thought. I just have one concern. I have enabled location settings in the manila panel, so i received the Weather forecast with animation and icon on the Clock.
Now the animation kills the home screen, it's choppy and with it the whole home tab. Even after setting up a wallpaper with no animation / weather or any other, only the fact that i have the weather icon on my Clock slows down the Home Tab.
I don't think that it's only me, seeing bad performance with the weather thing.
I actually needed to hard reset the phone, to have that animation and weather icon off. It's good that this isn't working directly with first boot up and you need to set it up (at least with me) so i can enjoy a seamless Home Tab navigation. Where is the point of having something designed for other, faster platform, working rather bad on our older Diamond 2 ?
some tips to make your device faster:
disable that crapy htc sence. it will save more than 50MB or ram. use instead that titanium, iphonetoday or simple plain today screen.
use mmAppLauncher, it will save you ~20MB of ram.
In total, at cold start you will have ~120MB free, after one day usage - about 110.
ofcourse, battery last longer.
stock 2.53.479.3 wwe rom
I have the same problem with the phone and have downloaded no apps or anything in the 12 months I've had it. Goes really slow, freezes frequently. Working my way through all these threads to try and figure out how to make the thing just work. Will be trying some of the suggestions above.
One thing that I have seen slow these phones down is excessive amounts of saved texts. You may want to clear as many as you can out and see if that helps.
I have the same problem .I've try all ROM's ,official and cooked,but nothing.After 2-3 days ,topaz need to be hard reseted.I try to do not install any apps and nothing maybe i increase the days to a week.I try also android but it's slow too.The only ROM that i like how it's working it's from O2 XDA,but it's with the old one htc sence and it's German.actually the only problem is the sence.
I've try all king of setting,regs and everything else.PLS help need-fast,stable and clean rom-only with sence
Hi , i am using topaz and it works pretty good , reinstall windows after 1moth use, but if you compare it with android its very slow , so try android if you want more speed
The only time when i Hard-reset is when i flash the new Energy Rom's.
They are not sluggish en work very well.
As NRGZ28 says:
I build my ROMs with four main goals.
Eye candy ( I want my ROM to look great and for it to all flow together nicely)
Speed !!!
Smoothness, consistency and good aesthetics
Stability through private beta testing before public release
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I have a new Diamond 2 and all good and fast response for me
Also I have also installed ArkSwitch as suggested above and this is a good task manager I think.
Using WM6.1 with a tweaked rom and no Manila its running fast enough for me.
I also installed Stop PushInternet for real to save another 9.5 MB of memory
Nice post. Thanks for the pointer.
I will check the registry of my ROM to see if I need that cab