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Any questions for microsoft
Hi all,
On Monday week - ie 11th July I will be meeting with microsoft and hopefully looking at the HTC Universal in detail. I will take my camcorder along so hopefully they will let me take some footage.
Does anyone have any questions they want asked?
Also I will try to take a "origami size pattern" of the universal as many prople are worried about the size. ie you can print, fold and glue to get an accurate feel of its volume.
Any other suggestions on information that can be gained from this meeting?
Jayman
Edit: I will also try to get a couple of sample photos/video from the cameras
Ask about WM5 for other HTC devices. That would be cool to know what MS says about it.
Do you mean upgrades for existing HTC models (this is a carrier decision not m$) or do you mean new models yet to be announced such as the galaxy/wizard?
Jayman said:
or do you mean new models yet to be announced such as the galaxy/wizard?
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... which is also a question to ask manufacturers and not Microsoft.
Stateside
I wouldn't expect them to have any information on this either, but it's worth a shot. Ask if they have any information when we might be able to see this device in the US. Even ballpark figures will do. I need something to keep me away from the Samsung i730.
Also, if it is a working device, I'd be interested to know how it performs as a phone (without headset/speakerphone) in both the open and closed screen position. (i.e. are the speaker and microphone positioned to work well in both configurations?). Check out the memory configuration as well, see how much ROM is left for storage.
One more thing...WM5 seems to lend itself to easier one handed usage. I'm not sure it will be possible with the Universal, but I'd be interested in your interpretation.
It sounds like a great opportunity, have fun!
Shawn
1)
Will there be a HotFix system for the WM2005, or is there any plans for it.
2)
Will M$ Relase Rom, Radio etc. upgrades/Fixes directly in the future for WM 2005.
3)
What is M$ doing about the fact that installed programs can make the device general unstable. Are you looking into this problem and plan to solve this issue.
I'm no programmer and don't know why this happends, but i guess it the same story as Windows for desktops in earlier years?
Good luck fella.
Ask them when they are finally going to solve the microphone support issues with the phone application, why the same mic works perfectly well with speakerphone, voice recorder ect but is far too low on phone.
Maybe they could add a volume slider for the Mic in the phone app (and here's another tip, if they do, they current level should be the bottom setting!!)
Take the invisible Rom-Grabber with you and ask for a Blue Angel with WM 5.0...
USB Host
Can you find out if they have any plans to include USB host drivers so that we can use our windows mobile devices with portable hard drives. The form factor of the Universal can only be justified (by me) if I can get rid of my pc on many trips. To do that, I need access to files on my portable hard drive. Would be nice if they supported this functionality.
Ray
USB Host
Can you find out if they have any plans to include USB host drivers so that we can use our windows mobile devices with portable hard drives. The form factor of the Universal can only be justified (by me) if I can get rid of my pc on many trips. To do that, I need access to files on my portable hard drive. Would be nice if they supported this functionality.
Ray
did the meeting happen?
hi friends,
did someone actually meet ms people!
:twisted: :shock: :idea:
it's not software which limit devices from being masters and using external harddisks or the like
It's all gone very quiet, surely the rumours about the Redmond mafia's business dealings can't be true ...... can they?
Maybe we should have just suggested questions like "Is it true Bill Gates gives lots of money to charity?", or maybe "Tell me more about Microsoft's work in the third world". Poor old Jayman!
Rudegar said:
it's not software which limit devices from being masters and using external harddisks or the like
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Oh, yes it is software: they're called 'drivers', because the programs 'steer' the data to the correct controlling program.
The Universal has a USB port, so it should have a driver on it somewhere. The question would be, is the divice loaded with a driver to allow it to 'master' other devices, or is it just the syncing point?
Maybe he meant it's more likely to be HTC that can answer that question?
Of far more importance to me is does the device have a suitable method of connecting to an LCD projector? IMHO, this is the absolute killer app for a "laptop replacement" & it's pretty much the only thing I miss from the Xda II.
its more likely that ms and htc is the same, if you know what i mean. and its very likely that there is no company called htc in reallity. maybe a post box hanging in taiwan is called htc and a website hosted (???) in taiwan. but noone is working for a company called htc. i can assure you in that point. and even if there is a hand full of people claiming them selfe working for a company called htc - they are not located in taiwan. need more info about that? go to china and find out yourself, best to start your research is at a company called dopod!
cheers, lutz
lutzh said:
its more likely that ms and htc is the same, if you know what i mean. and its very likely that there is no company called htc in reallity. maybe a post box hanging in taiwan is called htc and a website hosted (???) in taiwan. but noone is working for a company called htc. i can assure you in that point. and even if there is a hand full of people claiming them selfe working for a company called htc - they are not located in taiwan. need more info about that? go to china and find out yourself, best to start your research is at a company called dopod!
cheers, lutz
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Please tell me more about this, lutz. I don't have the means to go to China and research it, but I always like to hear a good conspiracy theory.
Oh, yes it is software: they're called 'drivers', because the programs 'steer' the data to the correct controlling program.
The Universal has a USB port, so it should have a driver on it somewhere. The question would be, is the divice loaded with a driver to allow it to 'master' other devices, or is it just the syncing point?
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if you found a way to make a usb peripheral a master using software
then contact www.usb.org i'm sure they will be impressed
the universal if it have usb support contain a usb chip which can act as master
much like my gf's old acer pda which also have such a chip
htc would have gotten a better usb interface had they used the usb interface from the ati chip insted of the nativ xcale usb interface
Please tell them
F*******************KING SOLVE BLUETOOTH PROBLEMS, AT LEAST MAKE IT WORKING PROPERLY...........
regards
Gugi
-- sorry for swearing but ......
@gugi_sat: The meeting is over!
It happened on the 11th..
Hello!
I've just got the MDA Pro which I've bought on an online auction. It generally works, but I have a few problems with it...
First of all, I got it with no charger apart from the USB cable... is it supposed to be like that?
Second, I didn't get any CD with drivers, and when I connect it to the computer, it asks for a driver... I tried looking for the drivers online, but I couldn't find anything. Where can I get them?
Also when I started it for the first time, I got a screen saying "Test Only, Not For Sale".... this is weird!
Another thing is a strange version number. The ROM version is ok, I think... it's 1.30.68 WWE. But the Radio version is 0.00.00 :shock: However, the phone seems to work well....
The last thing is that the MDA has a German keyboard, but an English ROM, so some of the buttons are wrong... for example, I press Fn+2, which should give me a ", but I get a @ instead. Is there some program which changes the keyboard layout in the system?
All in all, I like my new MDA, but I'd like it more if I could at least connect it to the computer, so that I can install things on it. Right now I can copy stuff to my MDA using a SD card, but I can't install programs that way
Hi Starlight, welcome to the board.
Be wary of what you buy on online auctions
1. Charger cable - it does come with a mains charger normally, but a USB lead will be fine, if slower. But you can buy one on ebay for around £4.
2. You shouldn't need the drivers that are first asked for when you plugin. Just click "no this time" or something, and it'll shut up if you have appropriate user rights on your PC.
Then, you need to go to microsoft.com and download ActiveSync. Ideally disconnect the pda first, install, and then plugin usb again, and everything should recognise itself and you'll be away.
Note - using the sd reader method is much faster in any event, for large files like films.
3. Test only sounds odd. Sounds like you're using a test rom, I've not seen it before. Is it every time you boot, or just in use itself, or just the once etc?
4. Radio 0.00.00 means the phone was once network locked, and has now got Buzz's special rom on it, used to unlock it to simunlocked. Read around on the board about this should it be necessary, but basically, find your operator and flash it ASAP with a nice official rom. 0.00.00 shouldn't do any harm, but it was only a special rom for unlocking.
5. Keyboard - I think some other guys have solutions on this on the board. Worst (or best?) case, use an essential app called PQz.
V
I can answer some of your questions:
- mine came with a charger that you can plug in the mains + the usb cable
- you don't need a driver, just download active sync 4.1 from the Microsoft site, install it, THEN plug your device in (obviously that should have come on a cd)
- regarding the rom 'test message', looks like someone sold you a prototype. I can be a good or a bad thing. Hopefully you can flash the rom and upgrade it to a 'standard' model.
Good luck!
Thanks for the answers!
Wow, a prototype... well, that explains why it was so cheap! It was cheaper than other MDA Pros, that's why I bought it.
I've downloaded ActiveSync 4.1, but it said that I need Service Pack 2, so now I'm downloading a 272 MB SP2
As for the charger, I think I'll buy something like this: http://photos.allegro.pl/photos/oryginal/10/1092/109247/10924799/109247999
It's supposed to be an universal charger for everything which can be charged by an USB cable, so I hope it will work
I'll try to look around the forums for something about the keyboard...
Sorry for the double post, just wanted to add something...
I got a CAB version of some registry editor and changed some keyboard settings, and it works well now!
The SP2 is 53% downloaded, and I have to install it before I install ActiveSync to connect the MDA to the computer...
As for the "Test Only, Not For Sale" message, it appears on the startup screen after a reset... and there's a i-mate logo under it. So I guess my MDA must have been flashed before, because there's a T-Mobile logo on it...
Thanks for the udpate. Glad to know you managed to make work ok in the end! :lol:
I still have a big problem with ActiveSync... please check my other thread here
So... I bought an 8525 off e-bay. I've been working with if for a couple months now and it has been pretty stable. Upgraded to the latest ROM. SID unlocked it. All in all, I've been pretty happy with it.
However, looks like the USB port has developed a bit of a break from the motherboard. Very spotty connection to any USB cable; including the power adapter.
On my AT&T account, I am listed as having a Blackjack. I switched on MyCingular to show a 8525. BUt I doubt that changes anything on the back end.
So my question... Will Cingular do a replacement on this since I bought it used? If not, is there a way to get HTC to do a repair? Any insight would be helpful before I start working my way through the phone support maze.
Regards,
I have an xda exec, which i have had for over a year now and i have been very happy with it... until a couple of weeks ago the mini usb port detached itself from the mainboard :-( Ive read about it happening before on here... but i have no warranty now so im looking for anyone who can help. The mini USB port is also now damaged. I looked at re-soldering it back on but im not good enough to do that... I guess ideally im after another universal with a broken screen or something so as i can make one good one from 2 bad... and then save up a little more towards an athena...
Pocketpctechs will repaire it for $60(including parts &larbor)
Check out the links bellow
http://www.pocketpctechs.com/main~sessid~560175586~unit~O2_XDA_Exec-500~area~repairs.htm
Thanks for the link - really useful... im contacting them to see if they can supply a replacement mainboard to the UK as that is where im based, if not i can look at posting it over i guess... Many Thanks - Dave
i brought a stand alone charger that you pop your battery in! pain in the ass but if you have two batterys its all good then use bluetooth to sync and install your apps and files im in the UK too
Yeah, thats exactly what i have done in the short term... but after upgrading my old XDA IIs yesterday to Windows Mobile 6 i fancy seeing what sort of improvements are available for my Universal.
On a side question can you sync over wifi?
you used to be able to but there was security concerns so they removed it from activesync if you have an old copy of active syncc then yes...
im trying to unlock this wizard but there is one problem
it wont sync, it only charges (i´ve seen other wizards with the same issue) there's in fact another thread and i have already posted there.
it wont sync over bluetooth because the first sync has to be with cable.
im out of ideas, maybe someone can help me out.
thanks for any help.
i know in ebay some people sell the unlock codes, but as you can tell by my english im from mexico and things are not OK at the moment.
maybe there is an app that can calculate the codes or maybe other alternative
You must have active sync version 4.5. If you have older - update.
Or to check usb cable.
Actually I have a solution for your problem, but I'm no expert, so that leaves me out of the thread.
Bye.
I shall declare myself an expert, so that at least someone gets help (regardless whether I am, in fact, an expert or not). hmotwr's response is the kind of thing that gets users banned...just saying.
Syncing is not an unlock problem. It might be a problem that you already have two accounts in your phone, and you need to delete one of them. It could be that you're using a Vista computer (known problem). It could be that your version of WM5 is corrupted. It could be that your Wizard's microUSB connector is broken.
I suspect the solution that hmotwr is withholding is the legendary "Flash from an SD card" which has seen lots of thread activity, but very few successes. Here is a possible answer: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293387
Don't be afraid to use the site's search engine, it's not bad. Search engines are your friends. Get to know them, and love them.
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Actually I have a solution for your problem, but I'm no expert, so that leaves me out of the thread.
Bye.
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yes i can tell, thanks any way
Myrddin Wyllt said:
I shall declare myself an expert, so that at least someone gets help (regardless whether I am, in fact, an expert or not). hmotwr's response is the kind of thing that gets users banned...just saying.
Syncing is not an unlock problem. It might be a problem that you already have two accounts in your phone, and you need to delete one of them. It could be that you're using a Vista computer (known problem). It could be that your version of WM5 is corrupted. It could be that your Wizard's microUSB connector is broken.
I suspect the solution that hmotwr is withholding is the legendary "Flash from an SD card" which has seen lots of thread activity, but very few successes. Here is a possible answer: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293387
Don't be afraid to use the site's search engine, it's not bad. Search engines are your friends. Get to know them, and love them.
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yes the problem is the mini-usb port, didnt know that flashing was possible via SD card, i've been out of this forum for awhile (not totally im in the shift and the fuze forum)
thanks for the link, will see if it can help me out and will let you know.
activesync is out of the question since i've been able to sync via bluetooth AFTER the first sync with cable (with other phones).
thanks once again.
to all the others.....
when i wrote "only exprets" i didnt mean it in a offensive way i just wanted to get ideas and not the classical "check the cable" "try a different computer" "different version of acticvesync" because all of that has already been done, but i apologize if it was taken in a wrong way.
i appreciate all the help.