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I have the german T-Mobile MDA-Pro with D1. (whytf can't I specifly that in my profile ?) I experience some strange thing with it. When I pick up the phone when someone calls me (by pressing the green phone button) it takes a while until the other side can hear me.
So whenever I answer a call (by pressing that green phone button) I will have to wait 5-8 seconds after the buttonpress until I say something or else the other side wont hear what I say and still thinks I havent answered the phone yet.
Yes! indead...I've got the same problem. is it a software bug?
I too have the same problem, and sometimes it hangs up the call even when I press the green button.
I've posted before and everyone has said 'Use the search'...I have and can't find anything relevent (don't think the search facility of this is very good).
Can someone PLEASE point us.
I really do miss the speed and efficiency of my XDA2s!
I have had some experience of this, it does delay mine was worse before I got rid of all th O2 tat, it is now liveable with, however it is cutting off when I press the answer button !!! OR IS IT after conducting tests using another mobile I found out that
1) the phone does not take very long before O2 divert the call to Voicemail
2) the phone starts ringing long before you know anything about it (its worse if the phone is asleep) it can be a good few seconds before it makes any indication noises
3) it carries on playing the ringtone after the call has been diverted which gives the impression that pressing the answer button is futile.
I have talked to the technical suppport of t-mobile germany and they told me they era aware of this issue and they will be releasing an update in Q12006 that will resolve this issue.
I have talked to the technical suppport of t-mobile germany and they told me they are aware of this issue and they will be releasing an update in Q12006 that will resolve this issue.
I too have this problem and for the moment while i await any future fixes from O2 or others, i am using the following short-term fix; Under phone settings I have changed the delay period before calls are forwarded to ansafone if unanswered (this works on O2 anywa). One problem with this is that callers may give up before they are diverted to ansafone if you set the delay too long
did this really resolve the issue I was talking about in my initial post ? (that when I pick up the phone by pressing the green button the caller can not hear me for the fist 10 seconds )
I have XDA Exec and kept getting confused why my GF always sounded confused and puzzled when I answered the phone, Id say "hello" and she would wait a while, then say "Hello? you there?"
I never realised it was MY phone that was cutting off my voice at the start of the call.
In regards to the delay ringing, and answering etc, I am giving all my friends instructions to bloody well keep ringing! I turn answerphone off normally as my phone is always on. If you want to speak to me, keep ringing till i answer, if I dont want to talk, ill reject the call.
Why ring twice and hang up? I could be doing anything that takes more than 2 seconds to get that damn phone out of my pocket, get it out the case, open it, see who is calling, press the button, damn, missed call.
Same problem here. I am seriously thinking about using this as just a PDA. I don't think it's practical to use a phone that only works some times. Somebody on HoFo said that the Universal isn't meant to be used as a phone, it can, but it isn't meant to be. I'm starting to agree.
I just like the idea of not having to carry around a phone AND a pda. I kind of hoped that's what the universal offers. But it kind of looks like it doesn't ...
Its a great phone when used as a hands free device, answers almost straight away, and has great volume unlike most hands free - my callers also comment that the line quality is excellent even if a few metres away from the phone.
I do always feel stupid though when using the phone as a standard phone, would feel more comfy putting a brick to my head.
I use the old phone ringer as my incomming call notifictaion and I hear my phone in plenty of time. The standard o2 incoming notification sound was useless. I don't know what T Mobile have but might be worth trying a different notification sound.
Cheers
I will have to wait 5-8 seconds after the buttonpress until I say something or else the other side wont hear what I say and still thinks I havent answered the phone yet
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Did anybody found a solution for this? this is very annoying.
Agreed, its just ridiculously slow - I worry whether or not I've hung up on people too, it takes a good few seconds before the line is actually dropped, let alone for the interface to update.
I've stopped using the "suspend" option and the phone seems to work like you'd expect (even on a cheap cell phone!). But the battery life is suffereing. Hopefully my new spare battery should be here soon.
I've stopped using the "suspend" option and the phone seems to work like you'd expect
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You mean I should walk around with some spare batteries in my pockets. :wink:
I think my pockets are too small for so many things.
Does anybody knows if this problem is known to HTC? Is there going to be an update?
It isn't possible that a phone doesn't act like a phone in these features that are already working 100 years. I want to pick up my phone and talk immediatly
By the way how do I switch off the "suspend" mode?
What is the "suspend" mode and how do I switch it off?
Look at Settings>Systems Tab>Power>Advanced Tab
Uncheck to "Turn off device if not used.."
This will stop the "suspend" mode
eeek ! Now I know why I would need an extra battery ....
Hi,
I'm looking for a too that allows me to assign a hardware button of choice that starts/stops recording an phonecall.
I'm really looking for a lightweight tool that can do it.
I know notes can do that, but that takes too much actions to start recording.
I just want to be able to record a phoneconversation quickly as soon as I think I need to record it.
Thanks in advance
how can one record conversation in notes?
what is the procedure?
I still didn't findany tool as requested in the initial post.
Any ideas?
why do you expect an answer to your question when youre not answering yourself?
1. I don't know the answer to your question (I saw it somewhere else on the forum tough)
2. Your question is offtopic.
Btw, you didn't answer on my question either.
Please help me out if you have the answer to my question.
In your first post you said that you know how to record a phonecall using notes but that takes too much actions to start recording.
And then I ask you how to perform that and now you say that you don't know how to do it.
I'm sorry but I don't know the answer to your question but you know the answer to my question.
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In your first post you said that you know how to record a phonecall using notes but that takes too much actions to start recording.
And then I ask you how to perform that and now you say that you don't know how to do it.
I'm sorry but I don't know the answer to your question but you know the answer to my question.
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No sorry, in the first post I said that i KNOW it's possible with notes but I don't know that procedure (not interested in that procedure either).
I'd like to start recording phonecalls with a single press on a hardware button.
Still I didn't find an answer on that.
Maybe some else please....
Re: How to record a call with a single press on hardware but
mauce said:
Hi,
I'm looking for a too that allows me to assign a hardware button of choice that starts/stops recording an phonecall.
I'm really looking for a lightweight tool that can do it.
I know notes can do that, but that takes too much actions to start recording.
I just want to be able to record a phoneconversation quickly as soon as I think I need to record it.
Thanks in advance
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http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=513&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
That looks interesting indeed, but it seems you need to sign up for some kind of service to use this....
mauce said:
That looks interesting indeed, but it seems you need to sign up for some kind of service to use this....
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You don't need to. Please read the article thoroughly.
would that do: "http://www.softtrends.com/products/livepvr/livepvrwmsp.htm"?
6f6c6567 said:
would that do: "http://www.softtrends.com/products/livepvr/livepvrwmsp.htm"?
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It does, but PMRecorder is free - why not use it?
I just tested PMRecorder. It's an OK piece of software does exactly what it says it would, however due to hardware limitations of PPC described in the link provided by menneisyys, call recording is only available with speakerphone ON and even than record quality is pretty low.
Too bad
I just audionotes. and set it to the memo button. Once a call comes in I can hit that button. I guessing may take about 3secs to fully load and then just answer the call. Works great with no problem. Don't need to use speaker phone. I tried it just using the phone, with the wired headset and the BT headset and al work pretty damn good. Although the other side volume will be about 30% lower then yours still can hear them just fine. But from my own test I wouldn't expect to record a conversation over 35min long. For some reason it ended around that amount of time on me but yet I still had tons of space left.
Zaiaku said:
I just audionotes. and set it to the memo button. Once a call comes in I can hit that button. I guessing may take about 3secs to fully load and then just answer the call. Works great with no problem. Don't need to use speaker phone. I tried it just using the phone, with the wired headset and the BT headset and al work pretty damn good. Although the other side volume will be about 30% lower then yours still can hear them just fine. But from my own test I wouldn't expect to record a conversation over 35min long. For some reason it ended around that amount of time on me but yet I still had tons of space left.
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Hard to believe it worked. I too have a Wizard (G3 - do you have a G4? Anyone knows whether G4 no longer has this problem?) and a Universal & also tested a MDA III in this respect and am absolutely sure none of them make it possible to record the other party.
Are you ABSOLUTELY sure you've listened to the right recording with the wired / BT headset test?
I have no idea wehter I have a G3 or G4 so if you know how I can checc for you I'll be glad to let you know.
I've tried it many times and it continues to work. Especially since I never talk on the phone itself. I always use a headset (wired and BT). So there isn't a way I could get it mixed up.
Now I remember something from another thread that 1 person was having problems installing the app. After installation the programs works fine but the person couldn't activated it. Maybe that is required not sure.
I'm currently using version 1.11 and I noticed there's a 1.15 version now.
Also I notice this on their page:
Windows Mobile Smartphone
Best for using with Windows Mobile 5.0
Note that phone calls are recorded only on WM 5.0 Smartphones. We recommend you to start recording phone calls after you have pressed the answer button.
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Which is wierd to me. I always started the recording prior to calling or answering.
And the PPC version reads:
Windows Mobile 2003 (SE)/Windows Mobile 5.0
Best for using with Windows Mobile 5.0
VITO AudioNotes does not record phone calls on Pocket PC due to operating system restrictions.
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Now this is something I find interesting after reading this. After soft reset the phone boots up and even says PPC. But yet I mremeber Cingualr always called it a smartphone instead of a ppc when they first got them.
I have no idea if this is possible, but I'd love to be able to use my athena as a handset, not just a speakerphone. I know it's huge, but I've had my device for three months and am still not happy with the headset solution. I've tried the popular jabra, jawbone, and lg style-I options, but don't like having to carry and charge another device, or wearing a headset (even just for calls), and although it's not awful, the sound quality (especially outgoing) often just isn't good enough for business calls.
What I'd like to do, if it could be done, is come up with a makeshift handset mode where the left speaker is turned off and the lowest setting for the phone volume could be much softer (so that the whole room doesn't have to hear the incoming sound). I don't know if it would be necessary to adjust the mic gain down any, but I don't think so.
The ideal solution would have something akin to a phone profile setting that would allow me to toggle between the default speakerphone setting and the new handset settings. But, it would be acceptable even if I had to just stay in handset mode (maybe with the ability to just turn up the call volume to have a mono speakerphone).
I am a total novice here, but is there a way to hack the registry (or better yet, some audio manager app) to change the balance settings on the speakers and to decrease the lowest possible volume settings for the phone?
Of course, I'd probably carry the device without the keyboard so that I didn't have to take it off and put it somehwere every time a call came in.
Is anyone else wanting something like this? Can anyone help? If I'm just nuts, please be kind in saying so
Thanks.
It sounds like for what you desire, someone would have to write a program to do that. If there was a program that did that, I would be interested in trying it out.
basically you have to accept the fact that its JUST TOO BIG
to ever be used as a conventional phone.
After I took ONE call on mine , i went straight out and bought a headset and its much better than using any phone which i loathe to do anyway.
I dont think of my athena as a phone , its a mini laptop that can make phone calls, you have to accept that or get another phone
erm... it could possibly be done.
However: the speaker(s) on it are clearly not usable as the kind that would permit you to humiliate yourself by having it to your ear; they're too loud for that and in the wrong place.
However, it should be possible to make some sort of speakerphone mode (like with video calling) that you can just talk into the mic with.
the question is, do you *really* want to make yourself look like that big a bellend in public?
i understand your dilemma but the only other real solution i can think of is to use a wired headset, it has better outgoing sound quality and you don't need to charge it.
Thanks to all for the quick replies.
Irus, I tried the wired headset for a while, but always had trouble with trying to both check to see who was calling and get the headset untangled and in my ear before the call went to voicemail. Tried a couple of the retractable headsets, but they broke pretty quickly.
Olipro, um never heard the term "bellend" before, but I think I have a pretty good idea what it means And, well, I guess the answer is, "Yes, I *really* do." I know it will look strange, but I personally am even less fond of the bluetooth headset look (I know most here will TOTALLY disagree with that, just my opinion).
Anyway, I realize that the hardware is far from ideal for this, but I think the right side speaker (though pointed in the wrong direction) would be right at my ear if I were speaking into the mic. Olipro, you say the speakers are way too loud. Are you saying that they aren't capable of producing softer sound? I just assumed that they could be set to a lower volume. Is it actually a qualitatively different type of speaker and sound? (I'm honestly asking.)
Can a program be written to mute the left speaker and drastically reduce the volume of the right speaker on calls when in "handset" mode?
What do you say, Olipro? If it wouldn't take too much time away from your much anticipated rom cooking, would you consider working some of your magic to help me "humiliate" myself "in public" I'd even gladly send you pics of myself in the act of "bellendizing" myself afterwards.
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Thanks to all for the quick replies.
Irus, I tried the wired headset for a while, but always had trouble with trying to both check to see who was calling and get the headset untangled and in my ear before the call went to voicemail. Tried a couple of the retractable headsets, but they broke pretty quickly.
Olipro, um never heard the term "bellend" before, but I think I have a pretty good idea what it means And, well, I guess the answer is, "Yes, I *really* do." I know it will look strange, but I personally am even less fond of the bluetooth headset look (I know most here will TOTALLY disagree with that, just my opinion).
Anyway, I realize that the hardware is far from ideal for this, but I think the right side speaker (though pointed in the wrong direction) would be right at my ear if I were speaking into the mic. Olipro, you say the speakers are way too loud. Are you saying that they aren't capable of producing softer sound? I just assumed that they could be set to a lower volume. Is it actually a qualitatively different type of speaker and sound? (I'm honestly asking.)
Can a program be written to mute the left speaker and drastically reduce the volume of the right speaker on calls when in "handset" mode?
What do you say, Olipro? If it wouldn't take too much time away from your much anticipated rom cooking, would you consider working some of your magic to help me "humiliate" myself "in public" I'd even gladly send you pics of myself in the act of "bellendizing" myself afterwards.
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If you are so desprate to use the athena this way, I think the safest and easiest way is to put adhesive tape over the speaker holes to muffle the sound, and then punch a few holes in one to your liking
You could Just superglue it to the side of your face
you really will have to face the fact that you may have to develop this programme yourself if you wish to use the ameo as a normal handset - i use the term loosely - the problem with it is that whilst the ameo is the coolest gadget going as a mini pc, it is the most embarrassing thing in the world to press against your face, and also leaves you open to a VERY easy snatch if you get it out in public. And yes people who look like bellends are more susceptible to street crime. That's a fact, i'm sure of it. I chose my ameo knowing of its failings and devised my own solution of using it for data purposes only with wifi or a bluetooth dialup connection to my phone, which in turn i use for making calls and texting. Other people use bluetooth headsets and seem to get along with them fine. Until a kaiser quality device with a vga screen comes out i am happy to accept the ameos inconveniences and love it for what it is.
evermore said:
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.....Are you saying that they aren't capable of producing softer sound? I just assumed that they could be set to a lower volume. Is it actually a qualitatively different type of speaker and sound? (I'm honestly asking.)
Can a program be written to mute the left speaker and drastically reduce the volume of the right speaker on calls when in "handset" mode?
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You might want to try PocketZenPhone, a software that does profiles for the phone. It is an on-going project and the developper handles requests which he incorporates into the soft. It might just be a case of developing another profile for you called "semi-mute" or something .
Or just stick with a BT headset, like the rest of us.
Thanks very much, Abram. Will check that out.
Guys,
I have been using Athena as a normal phone.Reduce the in call volume to zero and yes u can talk like a normal phone.If u are in very quiet environment, then fellows might listen what u r talking,but in any normal circumstances no one can hear what u are talking and eventhough the incall volume is zero, orther person can hear.Looks like HTC made an alternative arrangement, but any way it works fabulously
hdubli,
what do you mean when you say "reduce the in call volume to zero"? Do you just mean moving the slider all the way to the bottom? For me, that's still pretty loud. I can hear it easily well away from my ear. Or, do you mean something else? Thanks.
evermore said:
I have no idea if this is possible, but I'd love to be able to use my athena as a handset, not just a speakerphone. I know it's huge, but I've had my device for three months and am still not happy with the headset solution. I've tried the popular jabra, jawbone, and lg style-I options, but don't like having to carry and charge another device, or wearing a headset (even just for calls), and although it's not awful, the sound quality (especially outgoing) often just isn't good enough for business calls.
What I'd like to do, if it could be done, is come up with a makeshift handset mode where the left speaker is turned off and the lowest setting for the phone volume could be much softer (so that the whole room doesn't have to hear the incoming sound). I don't know if it would be necessary to adjust the mic gain down any, but I don't think so.
The ideal solution would have something akin to a phone profile setting that would allow me to toggle between the default speakerphone setting and the new handset settings. But, it would be acceptable even if I had to just stay in handset mode (maybe with the ability to just turn up the call volume to have a mono speakerphone).
I am a total novice here, but is there a way to hack the registry (or better yet, some audio manager app) to change the balance settings on the speakers and to decrease the lowest possible volume settings for the phone?
Of course, I'd probably carry the device without the keyboard so that I didn't have to take it off and put it somehwere every time a call came in.
Is anyone else wanting something like this? Can anyone help? If I'm just nuts, please be kind in saying so
Thanks.
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well I think evermore had a very good and valid question to ask,I too have just bought the same phone and I too am faced with exactly the same problem. I don't mind walking around with this phone in my hands holding it to my ear,if anyone wants to try and grab it,good luck to them,I would trash it first and them second. But what really P****D me off with the replies to this posting was the number of muppets who couldn't come up with a constructive and helpful answer to this problem. OBVIOUSLY they are used to little girlie phones and don't remember the old days of BIG phones or their limited intelligence doesn't allow them to post a constructive reply, and as for the comment of "bellend" well I am surprised the originator managed to find the internet,let alone use a mobile phone!!
So if there is some intelligence out there for us novices,please lets read it,otherwise use the superglue to permanently glue your laptop shut
John
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johnmcavoy said:
well I think evermore had a very good and valid question to ask,I too have just bought the same phone and I too am faced with exactly the same problem. I don't mind walking around with this phone in my hands holding it to my ear,if anyone wants to try and grab it,good luck to them,I would trash it first and them second. But what really P****D me off with the replies to this posting was the number of muppets who couldn't come up with a constructive and helpful answer to this problem. OBVIOUSLY they are used to little girlie phones and don't remember the old days of BIG phones or their limited intelligence doesn't allow them to post a constructive reply, and as for the comment of "bellend" well I am surprised the originator managed to find the internet,let alone use a mobile phone!!
So if there is some intelligence out there for us novices,please lets read it,otherwise use the superglue to permanently glue your laptop shut
John
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The originator of the 'bellend' jibe just happens to be the man who devised a working CID and SIM unlock solution for this device: he would have been somewhat ancapacitated if his laptop had been glued shut.
I think that the use of such informal and slightly crude words as "bellend" is acceptable given the incorrigable nature of the problem: the idea of pressing a mini pc up against your face is crude in itself.
Given that I used to believe I could make a flying machine out of a monopoly board, a leather jacket and a tricycle, perhaps the same naive 4 year old might have thought it possible to turn a handset large enough to eat a ploughman's lunch off into a pocketable handset. I've grown up a little since then, and I use the Ameo for what it does best, rather than trying to make it into something it isn't.
YES I remember BIG phones. I also remember BBC Microcomputers, Shellsuits and televisions with teak surrounds but fortunately I've seen fit to move on since then, and find them a little embarrassing now.
If members wish to inform other members of the fruitlessness of their ideas then I don't think this is a problem (particularly if these members [Olipro] have a track record and know EXACTLY what they are talking about): the solutions of course are obvious and oft-discussed: bluetooth headset; turn volume down and press against ear; or don't use it as a phone at all.
Maybe you can't have your cake AND eat it.
johnmcavoy said:
well I think evermore had a very good and valid question to ask,I too have just bought the same phone and I too am faced with exactly the same problem. I don't mind walking around with this phone in my hands holding it to my ear,if anyone wants to try and grab it,good luck to them,I would trash it first and them second. But what really P****D me off with the replies to this posting was the number of muppets who couldn't come up with a constructive and helpful answer to this problem. OBVIOUSLY they are used to little girlie phones and don't remember the old days of BIG phones or their limited intelligence doesn't allow them to post a constructive reply, and as for the comment of "bellend" well I am surprised the originator managed to find the internet,let alone use a mobile phone!!
So if there is some intelligence out there for us novices,please lets read it,otherwise use the superglue to permanently glue your laptop shut
John
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Feel better now? ;-)
Olipro said:
erm... it could possibly be done.
However: the speaker(s) on it are clearly not usable as the kind that would permit you to humiliate yourself by having it to your ear; they're too loud for that and in the wrong place.
However, it should be possible to make some sort of speakerphone mode (like with video calling) that you can just talk into the mic with.
the question is, do you *really* want to make yourself look like that big a bellend in public?
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Yes, I would like to request a hack for the phone so I can make myself look foolish and like a big bellend (whatever that means) in public.
I don't think I can look either foolish or like a bellend...no matter what I do. I just got it like that. LOL ;-p
I may even start a new trend. he he he
Hi to all and hope you guys are having a great day! YEA BABY!!!
hdubli said:
Guys,
I have been using Athena as a normal phone.Reduce the in call volume to zero and yes u can talk like a normal phone.If u are in very quiet environment, then fellows might listen what u r talking,but in any normal circumstances no one can hear what u are talking and eventhough the incall volume is zero, orther person can hear.Looks like HTC made an alternative arrangement, but any way it works fabulously
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Quite frankly, this works with me, if I feel like holding the x7500 to my head. Of course, the call volume you hear depends on how good your hearing is, so YMMV. I find myself using a BT when I'm around others, either the LG Style-I or the Jawbone. (I'm eyeing the Jabra BT 8010 also). But the bottom line is you can use the x7500 as a handset this way if that's your preference.
Perfect solution!!!
Okay, get ready for this guys!
I found a perfect solution for everyone wanting to use the Athena like a regular phone. It'll take a little bit of work but it seems to be worth it. Check out the project site I found. It enables you to make the Athena or ANY other cell phone work like a regular phone. Just need to adjust the instructions for the Athena and it looks like we have ourselves a real solution.
Hope this helps someone ;-)
http://www.vonslatt.com/proj-handset.shtml
Ok, ok...all kidding aside, one of the coders may want to write something to make this possible. I would use it. I've been caught without my headset before and didn't want to answer the phone because there were people around me. This is a good backup solution and I would use it as that...a backup i ncase my headset battery went out (even though I have a spare headset) and in case I forgot my headset at home....GOD forbid!
ltxda said:
I found a perfect solution for everyone wanting to use the Athena like a regular phone. It'll take a little bit of work but it seems to be worth it. Check out the project site I found. It enables you to make the Athena or ANY other cell phone work like a regular phone. Just need to adjust the instructions for the Athena and it looks like we have ourselves a real solution. http://www.vonslatt.com/proj-handset.shtml
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I love it! My only suggstion is the guy in the picture needs to ditch his hat in favor of the tin foil model with the built-in antenna.
I use a BT handfree, but sometimes I may want to answer a call using the phone itself.
If I slide to answer, I don't expect the phone to transfer the call to my handfree. It has been working in this way for all the phones I used previously
However, N1 will still transfer the call to my handfree in this situation....Any solution? (other than pressing the bluetooth soft button on screen)
fatboyhk said:
I use a BT handfree, but sometimes I may want to answer a call using the phone itself.
If I slide to answer, I don't expect the phone to transfer the call to my handfree. It has been working in this way for all the phones I used previously
However, N1 will still transfer the call to my handfree in this situation....Any solution? (other than pressing the bluetooth soft button on screen)
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That was what I was going to suggest. One additional button-press doesn't strike me as terribly burdensome.
Anyhow, the way it works makes sense to me. If I have a bluetooth headset stuck in my ear, chances are I'm going to want to use it for the call, even if I answered the call using the slide just because I picked up the phone to see who was calling and slid to answer while I had the phone in hand rather than using the button on the bluetooth device.
I Have been driven nuts by this for ages, to me the nexus one does it right.
My car handsfree answers after 4 rings, if I really didn't want to miss the call I'd press on the phone to answer, only then to panic when I couldn't hear them and then have to use speakerphone and turn off the radio manually and then have a really difficult conversation.
now, if the handsfree is connected it's always used.... I think there is a privacy function (that's what it's called on some other phones anyway) which will switch the call to the handset.
- Anthony
lol i don't know what you guys are smoking.... but it is up to personal preference i guess.
It would be better if we have an option for that so everyone will be happy
Hi guys,
I have been trying to find answers for this problem ever since i bought my Galaxy S2..but no luck so far.
The problem is trying to voice dial someone while the phone is paired with a bluetooth headset and on standby/screen locked mode. In other words i want to be able to voice dial someone when my galaxy is in the pocket instead of having to unlock the screen and go for voice dial and then say command which negates the whole point of having voice dial.
So far when i press the bluetooth's button, the phone goes - "what would you like to do" and then i try saying ''call (person)" but the phone seems to be doing nothing after that..but when the screen is unlocked and i do the same thing, it actually does dial(no point because if i am able to take the phone out and unlock it, i might as well dial it instead of voice). What really hits me is that the bluetooth actually does trigger the voice talk application and the phone requests me to say what i want to do but after that nothing happens.
Can you guys tell me whats going on? This problem is really making me hate this phone because the phone boasts so many ads about voice dialling but it cannot do a simple voice dial which is possible on ancient phones. Cheers
I've been playing with this for the past couple of days and here's what I've learned. It's complicated because there are multiple settings that effect each other. The phone has to be on to use Voice Talk. It can be locked, but has to be on and active. In other words, Voice Talk won't wake the phone up if it was shut off with the on/off button. Also, the app has to be in the foreground for it to listen. If you go to the home screen or launch another app its no longer active and listening.
Also, similar to the OP, my headset reacts strangely when I use its command button. When I push the button and say "phone command," it says "activating your phones inbuilt calling features," and then says "this feature is not supported on the connected phone." But, after that, Voice Talk is still listening but acts wonky. Instead, I set Voice Talk to Listen Over Bluetooth and I don't have to push anything - I just say Hi Galaxy. OP, I bet your headset's experiencing something similar. Try turning on Listen Over Bluetooth and Wake Up Command and then just say Hi Galaxy to start Voice Talk. I bet it works. Don't forget you can also set Motion to on and then just tap the phone twice (even if its locked) to activate Voice Talk. I'm guessing that uses less battery on both the phone and headset then leaving the Wake Up Command on.
Here's my take on each of the settings:
Listen Over Bluetooth
Has to be on for Voice Talk to work via a headset. If not, you can hear the prompts through the headset but Voice Talk is listening through the phone's built in mic.
Auto-Start Listening
I haven't figured this one out. Either off or on the phone seems to behave the same way. The best I can figure is that Voice Talk starts listening immediately the first time its opened instead of having to tap the button to make it start listening.
Wake Up Command
If Listen Over Bluetooth is active, the Wake Up Command has to be on for Voice Talk to hear Hi Galaxy.
Driving Mode
Is really mislabeled. All it does is announce new e-mail (but not read them) and read text messages.
So that's my take. I'd be interested in everyone else's experiences and if they've learned anything different or better.
BarryH_GEG said:
I've been playing with this for the past couple of days and here's what I've learned. It's complicated because there are multiple settings that effect each other. The phone has to be on to use Voice Talk. It can be locked, but has to be on and active. In other words, Voice Talk won't wake the phone up if it was shut off with the on/off button. Also, the app has to be in the foreground for it to listen. If you go to the home screen or launch another app its no longer active and listening.
Also, similar to the OP, my headset reacts strangely when I use its command button. When I push the button and say "phone command," it says "activating your phones inbuilt calling features," and then says "this feature is not supported on the connected phone." But, after that, Voice Talk is still listening but acts wonky. Instead, I set Voice Talk to Listen Over Bluetooth and I don't have to push anything - I just say Hi Galaxy. OP, I bet your headset's experiencing something similar. Try turning on Listen Over Bluetooth and Wake Up Command and then just say Hi Galaxy to start Voice Talk. I bet it works. Don't forget you can also set Motion to on and then just tap the phone twice (even if its locked) to activate Voice Talk. I'm guessing that uses less battery on both the phone and headset then leaving the Wake Up Command on.
Here's my take on each of the settings:
Listen Over Bluetooth
Has to be on for Voice Talk to work via a headset. If not, you can hear the prompts through the headset but Voice Talk is listening through the phone's built in mic.
Auto-Start Listening
I haven't figured this one out. Either off or on the phone seems to behave the same way. The best I can figure is that Voice Talk starts listening immediately the first time its opened instead of having to tap the button to make it start listening.
Wake Up Command
If Listen Over Bluetooth is active, the Wake Up Command has to be on for Voice Talk to hear Hi Galaxy.
Driving Mode
Is really mislabeled. All it does is announce new e-mail (but not read them) and read text messages.
So that's my take. I'd be interested in everyone else's experiences and if they've learned anything different or better.
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Thanks for this detailed reply. I think at some point I have tried these settings but not sure if they were in the exact matching order. I will give it another go with everything set up to the way you have mentioned and see what I get. I am sure I am very close to actually getting it to work though..fingers crossed ..and yes if anyone else have different combinations of settings or ways they got it to actually work from a locked screen, please share it here. Thanks.
BarryH, I did try those exact settings like you had mentioned but still no luck. On triggering the voice talk with bluetooth headset's button, i can hear voice talk say "what would you like to do?" and does not respond to anything i say. (while screen is off).
I am thinking of installing Vlingo and trying to get that to work this way? Not sure if it would make a difference though.
vijith555 said:
BarryH, I did try those exact settings like you had mentioned but still no luck. On triggering the voice talk with bluetooth headset's button, i can hear voice talk say "what would you like to do?" and does not respond to anything i say. (while screen is off).
I am thinking of installing Vlingo and trying to get that to work this way? Not sure if it would make a difference though.
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If you do what I suggested you don't have to push the command button. The phone will be listening for the "hi galaxy" command all the time.
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I noticed the same thing, when paired with my car, the phone does not respond to pressing the button on my parrot if the phone is locked
I disabled the factory lockscreen and now use widget locker instead, problem has gone away
connectsys said:
I noticed the same thing, when paired with my car, the phone does not respond to pressing the button on my parrot if the phone is locked
I disabled the factory lockscreen and now use widget locker instead, problem has gone away
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I was thinking of trying this next as I have run out of options..so you say it worked? Then I will get widget locker and see how I go. So let me get this straight - i get widget locker and use the lock screen that comes with that or using widget locker i disable the stock lock? Or I should disable the stock lock from settings and then use widget locker? Cheers
yea disable stock lock in settings and then use widget locker only for lockscreen
connectsys said:
yea disable stock lock in settings and then use widget locker only for lockscreen
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Tried this last night and unfortunately its still doing the same thing. On holding the bluetooth headset's button while the phone's screen is off I can hear the phone go "what would you like to do" and right after this i say commands like "call (someone)" but nothing happens. When the phone's screen is on, it actually works when i do the same thing which just surprises me to as why. Also when the screen is off and voice talk not on the front screen the wake up command doesnt work. So again a person has to leave his screen on (without letting the phone go to standby) and leave the voice talk app running for voice dial to work.
And to make things worse the double tapping with motion turned on settings doesnt bring up voice talk when the screen is off..again putting me in the same situation. The only way voice talk work on this phone is when the screen is on so far which isnt really practical in situations you would want to use voice commands..i hope samsung or google brings a better solution to this issue because this phone's got so much boasting about being able to voice command but isnt able to perform what an iphone or old nokia do
If you've got Tasker, you might be able to set something up... I noticed the same problem last night, and yeah, it's totally counter-intuitive...
I'll let y'all know how I go...
BTW - also noticed that while it may listen through my car bluetooth, it certainly doesn't play through it, and it's next to impossible to hear the mousey voice in a moving vehicle muffled in the depths of my pocket anyway...
Stupid half-baked software!
k1sr said:
If you've got Tasker, you might be able to set something up... I noticed the same problem last night, and yeah, it's totally counter-intuitive...
I'll let y'all know how I go...
BTW - also noticed that while it may listen through my car bluetooth, it certainly doesn't play through it, and it's next to impossible to hear the mousey voice in a moving vehicle muffled in the depths of my pocket anyway...
Stupid half-baked software!
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I cant agree more about it being counter-intuitive..and yes its not nice the voice prompts coming through the phone but i remember once somehow the voice prompts did come through the bluetooth headset i dont know how. Like you said something is not letting it operate properly, like blocking it. I havent used this Tasker but have used task manager like apps in the past. So you believe you could try to figure out a fix for this..i appreciate your efforts because I am just lost at the moment. Let me know how you go mate. And I will let you know if I get around this issue too. Thanks mate
k1sr said:
If you've got Tasker, you might be able to set something up... I noticed the same problem last night, and yeah, it's totally counter-intuitive...
I'll let y'all know how I go...
BTW - also noticed that while it may listen through my car bluetooth, it certainly doesn't play through it, and it's next to impossible to hear the mousey voice in a moving vehicle muffled in the depths of my pocket anyway...
Stupid half-baked software!
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Ok i found a way to get this voice dialling to work when the screen is off but not using a bluetooth headset, instead the wired headset for the time being.
So I can trigger voice dial when the phone is in the pocket and voice prompt comes to the headset, i say command and it works . I dont mind it working for the wired headset as that is good enough for the time being while driving. If you need to know how i got this done just give me a buzz. There are two pieces of software that I got to set this up. Cheers.
I just deleted built in vlingo crap and took generic Google voice dialer apk from my nexus s. Plus side you don't have to be connected to net to dial contacts and I can hear reply in headset as well.
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